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Norm Stamper

Norm Stamper

Posted: January 9, 2011 06:27 PM

"Please Don't Be Mad at Me"

What's Your Reaction:

Too late, Jared Loughner Despite your 5:00 a.m. MySpace plea yesterday, millions are mad at you, outraged by your bloodbath in a Tucson suburb.

They're mad at your parents -- they raised you, after all. They're mad at the community college that suspended you; the police who reviewed the "disturbing" video that led to your suspension; your friends and classmates who knew something was seriously amiss; the Army, which found you unsuitable for military service; the hate group you may or may not have belonged to.

We don't yet know yet if you saw a psychiatrist or a psychologist, as recommended by your school. But if so, that person will no doubt be spotlighted as well, brought within the ambit of popular anger. Likewise, any judge who, aware of your "troubling" history, might have failed to hold you accountable for previous crimes. Then there's an alleged accomplice who could have influenced your murderous spree, or helped you plan it.

What we're saying, Jared, is that many of us are "mad." Some of us are just not sure where to place our anger.

We'll speculate endlessly on what you did, why you did it, how it might have been prevented, what is or should be in store for you, and, what all of this means for the body politic, for our society.

We would do well to recognize, as does Sheriff Clarence W. Dupnik of Pima County, that much of today's political conversation consists of escalating hatred, fear, ignorance, and intolerance. At a minimum, the current atmosphere helps explain why today's public officials are at greater risk than ever before.

There is cause to believe that Jared Loughner is suffering a form of psychosis. If so, we should keep two things in mind.

First, 90 percent of those diagnosed with mental illness such as schizophrenia are nonviolent; they are highly unlikely to bring a gun to a political gathering, or to open fire under any circumstances. In fact, they are often too disoriented and frightened to be a threat to anyone, including themselves. Their need is for understanding, and for the financial and emotional support of their families, friends, and community, particularly the medical community.

Second, mentally ill persons with violent predispositions are also deserving of our support. That support, though, must have as its top priority the protection of the individual and his or her potential victims.

One giant step in that direction would be for our political leaders, including those aspiring to leadership, to put an end to the overheated rhetoric that leaves little doubt about intent, namely to "eliminate" the competition.

Gabrielle Giffords' tea party opponent urged his supporters to "remove [her] from office" in one breath and in the next invited those same supporters to come out to the range and pop rounds from his M16. A half-term governor and failed vice presidential candidate used gunsights to mark legislative districts targeted for defeat. Most of us do not believe these politicos are advocating actual violence. But some do believe it, and that's when things go bad.

As Sheriff Dupnik put it, "When you look at unbalanced people, how they respond to the vitriol that comes out of certain mouths about tearing down the government...The anger, the hatred, the bigotry that goes on this country [it is] getting to be outrageous..." He believes Arizona has become the "Mecca for prejudice and bigotry."

It does seem that the home state of John McCain, who was once a beacon of decency and civil discourse but is now a tea party toady, heads the list of states that embrace lunacy as political currency. But the list is long and growing. Where are the right-wing officials who don't merely issue statements of condemnation in the wake of such violence but who actually help to bring about a grownup version of American politics?

Of course, I'm mad at Jared Loughner. Who can forget the image of the lawmaker, the judge, the child, and so many others lying dead or wounded on a sunny morning? But my deepest anger is reserved for that segment of the political sphere that has legitimated incendiary language in our political process.

Every politician who has used the language of guns and bullets in everyday political discourse should stop and think about whether his or her voice contributed to yesterday's carnage.

 
 
 

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snesich
01:23 AM on 01/11/2011
Kudos, Norm. You remain one of the truly inspirational, decent, intelligent and kind voices in our nation. I'm glad you continue to speak out for what is good and just. Please keep your voice strong and active. We need you.
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01:35 PM on 01/10/2011
Thank you for speaking up Mr. Stamper. Your perspective from a law enforcement point of view is very valuable.
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bd7769
I may not always be right, but I am never wrong.
09:58 AM on 01/10/2011
To place blame of these events on the passion of political speech to the actions of a person who was if believed to be mentally unbalanced is a wrongful and dangerous path to take.
Is it now to say that those who speak out politically against the convention thought of a specific group to be deemed to be out of sanity?
Perhaps we should begin the medication of the young people in our society to ensure that violent acts are prevented so that the safety of all can be ensured.
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Dr Scott
All I ask is that you make sense
12:21 PM on 01/10/2011
There's nothing wrong with spirited political debate. But the rhetoric from the right has been hateful, racist, violent and wildly inaccurate. This sort of thing always leads to violence, but you'd have to go back to the civil rights era to see this level of it. The psychology of people who identify with right-wing politics tend to see violence as the answer to every problem. The reason that our discourse is so acrimonious is that in a democracy"such as ours, every one must be allowed to express their opinion regardless of the validity or coherence of their point of view. Conservatives, by nature, are "believers" not "thinkers." Their point of view is not shaped by facts. In the face of having their preconceived beliefs obliterated by facts, they resort to violence in order to conserve their views. I agree that trying to blame people who incite violence for the violence they incite is pointless. Those poor, deluded, numbskulls are no more responsible for their incoherent actions than the man who perpetrated this horrible crime.
Addressing your second paragraph: huh? That's exactly how each side views the other. Wo what's your point? These differences are easily settled by examining the facts in every situation. Only those who deny the facts should be deemed insane.
But until every person participating in our form of government develops the ability to perceive simple logic, the violence will continue.
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bd7769
I may not always be right, but I am never wrong.
08:14 AM on 01/11/2011
I don't buy that,
The rhetoric from the left is just same and there have been violence from those on the left in past.
The larger question in this case is the attack of “right wing rhetoric” started by the sheriff responsible for the congresswoman’s safety being used as a means to obscure the facts that someone like this person could even get as close as he did with a loaded gun.
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01:33 PM on 01/10/2011
Is advocating violence now to be described as no more than passionate political speech? That is a spin on events that I do not choose to embrace.
09:36 AM on 01/10/2011
the problem with today's political dialogue is that it is one- way.

Admit first that democracy has it's roots in both violent struggle and philosophical debate. Without the debate all we are left with is the violence. The conversation is no longer a symposium of different views. Today's conversation is more like a preacher giving a sermon to the choir. All political conversation is becoming internal dialog. Dialog within the group is not solving anything. Actually, it is only making things worse.

More debates, face to face is what we need. No more scripts and social commentaries to hide behind. Let the big mouth demagogues confront the accused political despots face to face.

Let the news organizations stick to the facts and evidence and be objective as they should be. Let's see then if the Palin's and limbaugh's and the Glenn Becks' of this country have what it takes to persuade the Clinton's and gore's and Thom Heartmann's.

Our once proud system of open forum is becoming a disgraceful shadow land of double-speak. We are engaged in an Alice in wonderLand type of politics. One where the Red queen can demand off with her head and then hide behind her knaves and pout, it was just a figure of speech, she had nothing to do with it.
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01:22 PM on 01/10/2011
"Let the news organizations stick to the facts and evidence and objective as they should be."
The trouble is that since the Administration of Reagan, news organizations no longer have an obligation to try to tell the truth; lying is legally acceptable. I wish it were otherwise, but there is no remedy for the lies that come out of the right-wing hate shows 24/7, other than to repeal the law that Reagan championed.
08:28 AM on 01/10/2011
Well said. I am not optimist however that these extremists will accept any responsibility for the current political climate or actual even recognize how they have contributed to it. The whole political arena has become one of "win at any cost", especially on the right, where compromise is seen as weakness. The whole system is now what is best for the politician and their personal ambitions and now what is best for the American people as a whole. I am embarrassed that these individuals purport to represent me.
09:01 AM on 01/10/2011
Note to self - don't try to write when tired - here's the edited version which makes way more sense!

I am not optimistic that these extremists will accept any responsibility for the current political climate or actually even recognize how they have contributed to it. The whole political arena has become one of "win at any cost", especially on the right where compromise is seen as weakness. The system is now what is best for the politician and their personal ambitions, not what is best for the American people as a whole. I am embarrassed that these individuals purport to represent me.
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Renlim
08:12 AM on 01/10/2011
We have not given (as a community to state or federal) programs & support to those with mental illness for the last 3 decades. We have cut out fund for institutional support for the sake of down sizing government under the auspice of budgetary fiscal control thus altering the previous jurisprudence system(cause & effect?). My belief is or restructuring & redistribution of the previous (overall) system, has created structural economic chaos; the cost of homelessness,prisons, as well the cost of, other external damages to the public(collateral damage, just so a few benefit with tax & financial breaks?) If it was not broken, did we need to fix it?
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06:38 AM on 01/10/2011
The art of conversation has been lost in America. To be a skilled debater means nothing. We have no interest in give and take. Our ability to compromise is severely limited. Education is looked at negatively. We respond to sound bites prepared by experts. We let limited polls direct our course. We have all failed to live up to the ideals left for us by our founders replacing we the people with what about me? Selfishness, greed, fear are the emotions we respond to. We have lost the ability to be empathetic, we can't seem to see the other point of view. Shouting down, using veiled threats and searching for the lowest common denominator has weakened the discourse in this country to the point where trust is gone, honesty is not taken for granted and lies are propagated.
07:47 AM on 01/10/2011
A standard part of one of Bill Clinton's stump speeches (part of his repertoire) is, and I paraphrase: "When Republicans and Democrats debate the ideas the Democrats win. That's why Republicans have to crank up the venom and emotion." Something like that. And in this case Clinton's right..
ThinkCreeps
Seriously, it's time.
07:52 AM on 01/10/2011
I suspect that you describe an overall picture that is too bleak for the whole of political activity, picking out the worst under all categories.

That said, there is certainly too much discussion of single issues, compressed into sound bites. These come out from experts in producing sound bites, rather than as sound bites from experts in the matter at hand.
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arkymorgan
Nobody knows the trouble I've been...
05:41 AM on 01/10/2011
It is interesting that we noisily demand that our sports 'stars' must be ultra-squeaky-clean in thought, word and deed because they serve as role models, but that we constantly excuse the failings of our leaders (both in politics and the media) and vociferously claim that their words and their behavior influences no one...
04:41 AM on 01/10/2011
I don't understand all the outrage. This guy is barely any more whacked out than Palin. He shot people in cold blood because he wasn't afraid of the consequences, unlike Palin where incarceration would mean the stop of the gravy train.
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TheIndependenceParty
Cranky yankee and a rehabilitated ex-Republican
01:55 AM on 01/10/2011
Chief Stamper's wise words caused me to wonder why it is in America, that the death of so many, and the injury of so many more, causes us first to be angry, ... and then to express our sadness. What place does anger serve in the aftermath of such a tragedy as this. Every life that played a role in this situation has suffered terribly, including the accused.

It is natural to feel anger. That response is programmed into us to allow us to protect ourselves while a risk is still present. The value of that emotion fades as the ambulances and hearses depart the scene, and the accused perpetrator is in lockup.

It is as though America is poised at every instant for vigilante justice. Do we forget that lynchings are illegal? Do we believe that vengeance will be Ours?

Our reflexes are misplaced. We pretend that the Justice system will serve us best, as we answer jury duty summons, yet when we witness such crimes as this from afar, ... we want the perpetrator hung from the closest lamppost.

Violence is not characteristic of true madness, as the Chief describes.

America should focus upon its losses and grieve those first. Justice will seeks its own path now that the accused is charged.

We need to find a way to avoid lighting such fuses as his again, and again.
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medicontheedge
big loud broad
01:32 AM on 01/10/2011
Yet this person with enough obvious mental illness manifestations to warrent several groups to call for testing, was able to walk into a gun store and purchase the weapons of mass destruction he used to make his point.
THAT is an issue that must be addressed.
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12:01 AM on 01/10/2011
It is a false equivalency if anyone believes that the speech heard from self-identified conservatives is equal to the speech heard from the left.

Not everyone is to blame on this issue.

And those on the right are not blameless.
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VioletDatura
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12:23 AM on 01/10/2011
Exactly. Fanned.
11:02 PM on 01/09/2011
Mr Stamper, you have written that Mr. Loughner was/is psychotic. I agree, but psychosis isn't always indicative of schizophrenia as I have witnessed firsthand. If this is the case I can assure you that I am NOT mad at his parents. Mr. Loughner is a legal adult and therefore his parents would have a very hard time in obtaining any information regarding their son that was not released to them through written permission by him. This country's mental health system is very broken and hard to navigate. Please do not make general assumptions or put words into the mouths of others. Especially those of us who know a thing or two about mental illness. If anything, my heart goes out to his parents as they did not ask for this.
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Martin Houde
I am no microbe
11:41 PM on 01/09/2011
I believe his blaming of everyone is just to prove the absurdity of it all. He is not mad at his parents, from what I gather from this article.

Your point about psychosis and schizophrenia is valid, though. But that's likely an honest mistake.

Of course, the link between vitriolic attacks and a deranged mind taking actual action is also quite valid and the main point of this article.
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Norm Stamper
11:52 PM on 01/09/2011
May I respectfully suggest you re-read the piece? I believe we're in complete agreement. The words I put "into the mouths of others" represent a thread of speculation about who's at fault, speculation that is already permeating the national conversation about this tragedy. I did not say that psychosis is "always indicative of schizophrenia." I know it is not. And, I couldn't agree more that the "country's mental health system is very broken and hard to navigate." Finally, like you, my heart goes out to Jared Loughner's parents. As you say, they did not ask for this. Moreover, as is the case with certain forms of psychoses, they may have had absolutely no control over the development of his illness. My apologies if I did not make myself clear the first time around.
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JimRinX
Ex-Chef with Neuropathy on SSDI
12:32 AM on 01/10/2011
Your Article was great, Norm, but then we share the same POV on many issues - including my disregard for over-zealous gun-control laws; just because an occasional psycho uses an ILLEGAL weapon to commit a serious crime, you point out that, sometimes, the determined killer sups from the same source of guns n' ammo that regular people - regular people who'd like to be able to take a legal leap of faith and try to stop some psycho with a gun from killing anyone, by packing a little well-tempered & reasonably honest heat, for example.
And "schizophrenia" is not necessarily a sign of "psychosis" either. In fact, one of the things that are "wrong" with our Mental Health System is their propensity to pass out too many anti-psychotics, to people who come in with a simple request to 'try and anti-depressant'; as I was also, soon thereafter, given Risperdol and Zyprexa - both of which are anti-psychotics, and have major side-effect issues associated with their use - even though I did not complain of such symptoms. The reason for that is that I'm a Buddhist - and one too many Catholic Head Hunters (NOT including my Current One!) have decided that that's "crazy". Oh, then theirs the Jessica Dolin incident....buts that's another story....
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tristrixi
Hon! Ministry of Love agents are at the door!
10:50 PM on 01/09/2011
The points referred to prior are; the necessity to address both social failings per Norm's concerns for the proper treatment of the mentally ill, and the cognizant understanding of the flammability of words incendiary in the public sphere of political rhetoric.
10:48 PM on 01/09/2011
Dear Mr Stamper ,
I am long time admirer -having lived in the fair city of Seattle during your tenure as Police Chief.
My comment is as follows:
Media and talking heads will isolate the suspect as a loner and living outside the box of called conformity.
He will be described as one of a kind and compared to people like Mark David Chapman who assassinated John Lennon or the guy who tried to kill Ronald Reagan.

As you state, right now the shooter is in the spotlight, but in a couple of days the media machine will move on and nothing will change except the words of hate and intolerance will become louder and louder which is encouraged by certain media outlets in the name of drama and ratings which in turn equates to profits.

Congressional leaders such as Speaker Boehner will perhaps cry on cue and the house will move on to symbolically repeal Obama Care- Nothing will change.
I wish I could believe otherwise,but the political divides are just too great.
Sincerely
EngChina