I am a Parisian Prisoner

Posted December 1, 2007 | 12:36 PM (EST)



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I have been in Paris for almost a week visiting my daughter and granddaughters. The only English language television broadcast that is available in my room at my daughter's apartment is the horridly produced and very repetitious CNN.

CNN however has put together a marvelous "look" at Russia under the leadership of Vladimir Putin. It is certainly a frightening piece, and Putin makes President Bush look like a major civil libertarian, and defender of our freedoms. He is almost as scary as Vice President Cheney.

I read the following article in the New York Times a few minutes ago. I have excerpted parts of it. It is in a way much more upsetting then the Putin piece on CNN. The Russians seem to behave in a certain way, and for most of the last few hundred years have been denied their personal liberties for most of that time.

Our country, prior to the Bush Presidency, purported to feature "fair, reasonable and Constitutional behavior.

When I was growing up, I was always under the impression that America behaved in a fair and reasonable manner, ergo, my upset with the following.

"Defense lawyers preparing for the war crimes trial of a 21-year-old Guantanamo detainee have been ordered by a military judge not to tell their client -- or anyone else -- the identity of witnesses against him, newly released documents show..."

"...Defense lawyers say military prosecutors have sought similar orders to keep the names of witnesses secret in other military commission cases, which have been a centerpiece of the Bush administration's policies for detainees at Guantánamo Bay, Cuba.

Some legal experts and defense lawyers said the judge's order, issued on Oct. 15 without public disclosure, underscored the gap between military commission procedures and traditional American rules that the accused has a right to a public trial and to confront the witnesses against him.

Defense lawyers say the order would hamper their ability to build an adequate defense because they cannot ask their client or anyone else about prosecution witnesses, making it difficult to test the veracity of testimony....Most witnesses in Mr. Khadr's case are expected to be military personnel who took part in a 2002 firefight in Afghanistan when an American special forces soldier, Sgt. First Class Christopher James Speer, 28, was fatally wounded. Mr. Khadr, who was 15 at the time, was badly injured."

We have been holding this man in a prison for over 5 years. The issue of his killing "one of our soldiers" during a time when we were trying to kill him and others is to me no different then our wars against Germany and Japan when their soldiers wore uniforms and tried to kill our soldiers.

The "premise" that we were at the time that this "crime" took place "the defined good guys" and anyone opposing us the "defined bad guys" escapes me.

And please PLEASE, do not say anything about 9/11.

I am not now, nor have I ever been a member of the Communist Party. I would hope that if I am ever arrested for anything including the type of event at issue that I will have the right to face my accuser as well as all witnesses.

When for even one moment you can mention our administration in the same breath with Venezuela, Afghanistan, or Russia, you can expect that we are in "deep stuff" and I expect that the stuff is not ice cream.

Bring back Edward R Murrow and have him produce, narrate, and air a television documentary about this "situation" for prime time on the CBS Television Network.

If our government can read my mail, email, listen to my phone calls, and do other stuff that I am unaware of AND try this man in this way, how long will it take for them to do it to you and me?

Bring back reasonableness.

Bring back fairness.

Bring back the Constitution. I know that it out there somewhere and perhaps the next President can find it.

Norman Horowitz


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- Atticus See Profile I'm a Fan of Atticus permalink

It is easy to hand someone power "for the present crisis". It is virtually impossible to take it back again unless one engages in violence. Ask Caesar, Napoleon, Hitler and Stalin.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:11 PM on 12/01/2007
- locanicole See Profile I'm a Fan of locanicole permalink

I totally dont understand the mind-set that thinks this is okay. If I hear about 9/11 and what the terrorists did to us one more time as an excuse for this type of behavior I think Im gonna scream. In the first place the people who did this to us died in that same attack. Yeh, some of the main planners weren't there (Osama bin Laden), but when we had the opportunity to catch them we didn't. Instead we illegally invaded and systematically destroyed 2 countries and proceeded to arrest and torture citizens of those countries who took up arms against us (and some who didnt). Isn't that why people scream about our 2nd amendment rights to bear arms; in case something like this happens to us..anyone ever see Red Dawn. My take on this is pretty simple, if you arrest someone for violating a crime, fine, arrest them, jail them, and try them according to the preceps of american jurisprudence. Any attempt to conceal the process only makes it appear to be unethical and undermines us.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:57 PM on 12/01/2007
- dexxjones See Profile I'm a Fan of dexxjones permalink

but but but bill clintion, oral sex and janet jackons's nipple!! oh and 911.

naomi wolf was stunned into silence on alex jones' show the other day. she then went on to marvel at his information and then to agree with it.

this "conspiracy theorist" turns out to have been right all along. until people disginage from the entertainment heroin (no offense norman, LOL, i know you were a pusher of that for a while), the same small group of people will continue to chip away at our country.

norman have you seen "endgame" ? thank you for another thought-provoking post.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:30 PM on 12/01/2007
- illit See Profile I'm a Fan of illit permalink

I think the ONLY presidential candidate who wants that old piece of paper (ie. the Constitution) back is Ron Paul - but, he has a few other ideas that scare me off.

None of these megalomaniacs running have shown the slightest inclination to cede any powers of that 'unitary' position.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:03 PM on 12/01/2007
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