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Norman Lear

Norman Lear

Posted: January 29, 2010 04:00 PM

Dear Rush...

What's Your Reaction:

Yesterday, driving to work I listened to Rush Limbaugh read a letter he'd written to President Obama. I listen to Limbaugh because he reminds me of the carnival barkers of my youth, men who were selling elixirs, snake oil, or inviting you for an extra 50 cents to check out the half man/half woman in the secreted tent. They were quaint and harmless compared to the barking Limbaugh who yesterday would have us believe -- he actually said this! -- the President was seeking to destroy the country so that he might then save it.

The rest of the day, last night, and this morning I couldn't stop thinking about the ugly, vindictive, dispiriting and reprehensible things barker Limbaugh had to say about our President. I ached to answer him but couldn't find the words. And then I remembered a scene in an episode of All In The Family when Maude, who later starred in her own series, came to visit Archie. Archie was sitting in his chair. Maude was standing beside him and they were fighting about the legacy of Franklin Delano Roosevelt. Finally, Archie who was rewriting history in this argument said something so misguided and distasteful that Maude could not find the words to respond with. All but choking with frustration, her entire body seemingly ready to burst, all she could say was: "You're Fat!"

After a lifetime of trying to reach the El Rushbos of my life, all I can say is: "You're FAT!"

 
Yesterday, driving to work I listened to Rush Limbaugh read a letter he'd written to President Obama. I listen to Limbaugh because he reminds me of the carnival barkers of my youth, men who were selli...
Yesterday, driving to work I listened to Rush Limbaugh read a letter he'd written to President Obama. I listen to Limbaugh because he reminds me of the carnival barkers of my youth, men who were selli...
 
 
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06:24 PM on 02/04/2010
The Declaration of Independence stated that the individual has the right to life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness. The Tenth Amendment of the Constitution states that the powers not delegated to the US government by the Constitution are reserved to the states or the people. On a daily basis, Rush Limbaugh and others (Mark Levin, for example) enumerate the ways that the Obama/Pelosi administration are violating these principles. What about Obama's disrespect for the separation of powers when claiming he will encourage legislation that will violate the Supreme Court's decision? Limbaugh refers to this and other examples of Obama's ignoring of the nation's founding principles in Limbaugh's broadcast about the State of the Union address on which Lear writes.
12:47 PM on 02/04/2010
I don't think that people who have been out of work wake up in the morning thinking about deficits! This is just another misdirection play by repulicans.
09:16 AM on 02/03/2010
Mr. Lear's piece was a comical reminder of the futility of engaging dittoheads. Yet there are many posts that debate back and forth with dittoheads, some of whom have adopted their leader's tactics. Problematic for me is one of the tactics I see repeated throughout this post.

There is ample evidence from responsible sources that show that race is still a problem within the United States, and that it affects hiring decisions, promotion, housing, police action, etc., having a negative impact on so many of our fellow Americans. The role this plays in our society is a worthy and ripe inquiry - and while some raise the question more thoughtfully and artfully than others, it is a matter for the intellectually curious to explore. I am dismayed that dittoheads feel so comfortable diminishing this inquiry and the experiences of so many of our fellow Americans by responding with "race card" rhetoric, a simpleton phrase designed expertly by Rush and those such as Jessie Helms that have come before him to dehumanize the experiences of "others" and bring the discussion down to their oh so low level. Don't take the bait! Remember - "You're FAT."

Prejudice is insidious in the many forms in which it is exercise, and often requires an individual to "unlearn" some very basic and base responses that are hard wired in our psyche. I loved Malcolm Gladwell's "Blink" and I am sure those of you who critique Mr. Gladwell so harshly have even better sources to cite!
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04:59 PM on 02/02/2010
Rep.] Ryan’s budget proposes reforms that are nothing short of violent. Medicare is privatized. Seniors get a voucher to buy private insurance, and the voucher’s growth is far slower than the expected growth of health-care costs. Medicaid is also privatized. The employer tax exclusion is fully eliminated, replaced by a tax credit that grows more slowly than medical costs. And beyond health care, Social Security moves to a system of private accounts that CBO says will actually cost more than the present arrangement, further underscoring how ancillary the program is to our budget problem.
This is the repugs idea of health care reform

http://run4chocolate.wordpress.com/ mean girls please read and share
10:49 AM on 02/02/2010
I always seem to be "hushed"-up on HP when I speak on this. So I will try to say this in a light manner. Please understand, that when some of you (Wh|tes) claim that Conservatives are all Wh|tes, you are making an implicit statement that "We" (Bl@cks) are ideologically monolithic. Many of us find that to be a type of soft bigotry. Indeed, I do understand that the Left must perpetuate this false image of Us to fulfill an agenda, but it is really aggravating. (Crossing fingers)
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A 'blue' Southerner
06:48 PM on 02/01/2010
Yes, Mr. Lear, you've described a feeling most all of us have experienced. And, residing in the deep, deep, Red part of the country, it's been a daily fact of life for me.

I'm glad to see Libra28, posting a little ahead of mine, dared to bring up intellect, or the lack of sufficient intellect, as a culprit in the 'slog' of social progress. I've worried I'd incite a torrid of elitist, anti-democratic, fascist, or worse accusations, if I ventured into that subject matter.

For those with some intellectual curiosity, I've authored a piece touching on that issue, titled, "Right Decision, Bad Result? The Supremes Let Loose Corporate Campaign Spending" (link below). For 'left' and 'left' leaning folks, don't be put off by the gist of the piece, which is to take a stand defending the recent 5-4 court decision on corporate free speech. It goes deep into why we hate the decision.
-RLee
http://therleepost.blogspot.com/2010/01/right-decision-bad-result-supremes-let.html
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05:29 PM on 02/01/2010
Well said Brother Lear - and thank you again for "All in the Family" - which gave my working class family a vocabulary to discuss the issues du jour in the 70s (I was, of course, "meathead"). With respect to Rush et al. My favorite line in their argument (and the FDR legacy) : "Keep the government away from my Medicare!"
04:27 PM on 02/01/2010
Someone posted a comment that Rush has more listeners than Keith Olbermann.

It is sad but true that the masses are not very intelligent.
Quantity does not equal quality.

Check out the link for IQ Score Interpretation: It is very interesting.
http://iq- test.learn inginfo.or g/iq04.htm

Percentages are of population

2.2 % IQ of 130+, very superior
6.7% IQ of 120 - 129, superior
16.1% IQ of 110 - 119, high average

50% IQ of 90 - 109, average

Of course there is more information provided in the link.

You can also learn how IQ is expressed in percentiles.

An IQ of 135+ qualifies a person for the 99th percentile which indicates that person is brighter than 99% of the population.
04:32 PM on 02/01/2010
Check out the link for IQ Score Interpretation: It is very interesting.
This link should work.

http://iq- test.learn inginfo.or g/iq04.htm
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TheGripester
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04:43 PM on 02/01/2010
Ahh yes...popularity is no measure of righteousness. Totalitarianism most often starts with a social movement that has majority support. That doesn't mean that populism = fascism, but it does mean that Rush's large following is only an indication of public interest, not that he spouts gospel truth. His program is riddled with factual errors, setting aside bias and spin. It is "politotainment," not information.

It's like Amadeus the film - it is incredibly popular and entertaining, and is probably the most-watched movie about classical music ever made. But don't kid yourself that it's historically accurate. It exists to make a point, not really to teach us anything about Mozart.
04:11 PM on 02/01/2010
Thank you, Norman Lear! It is so disheartening that the likes of Limbaugh have megaphones to spew their racial hatred, and their hatred of anything "other" than themselves. I personally think Limbaugh should be tarred and feathered for all the fear and anger he spreads daily in our country, especially when we need to come together to solve so many problems caused by the right wing. But, of course the right wing will never join us. It is a sad reality. As for Olbermann, Maddow, and Franken: they are terrific, not merely because I agree with them most ot the time, but because their positions, and their comments are based on facts, and they display courage by fighting powerful interests. They don't simply say ANYTHING to make their empty talking points.
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03:03 PM on 02/01/2010
Archie Bunker was curmudgeonly in general with opinions about race that many working class folks who lived through the turbulent '60s had. Archie was never evil, just certain that the world was not the way he'd have it. In a bygone era, guys like him had it made; those were the days. Rush is no Archie Bunker. Rush is more like Morton Downey Jr., the hater he replaced. Archie longs for the days of Glenn Miller. Rush longs for the antebellum.
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Kreskytim
I was born by the river in a little tent...
03:01 PM on 02/01/2010
I bet he was picked on because of his lisp when he was a kid.
02:59 PM on 02/01/2010
So many readers have totally missed the point. I'll try to help.

Norman Lear's remark was NOT meant to be taken literally.

"You're fat" was simply a verbal expression of total exasperation.

Rush's weight is completely irrelevant.

What is relevant is Rush's mean-spirited rhetoric, rhetoric so shocking that a kind person
is rendered virtually speechless.
03:07 PM on 02/01/2010
Thank you.
03:09 PM on 02/01/2010
What is "so shocking" about Rush's rhetoric? I don't agree with much of what he says, but he is certainly no more "shocking" than the left's noisemakers like Madow, Oberman and formerly Franken.
03:37 PM on 02/01/2010
Asking that question proves you are unconscious.
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ideasmatter
Knowledge is free
03:38 PM on 02/01/2010
You're kidding right? Ever listened to Limbaugh? (Probably too much...). Here are two quotes from an infinite list: "Isn’t it an established fact that Barney Frank himself spends most of his time living around Uranus?†and "We are being told that we have to hope [Obama] succeeds, that we have to bend over, grab the ankles ... because his father was black." Isn't that shockingly bad taste, and not to mention displaying a hysterical homophobia?

I challenge you to come up with similar quotes from Franken, Maddow, and Olbermann (check spelling of proper names next time).
02:57 PM on 02/01/2010
The universal theme of "Dr. Faustus" is always timely and relevant.

http://www.novelguide.com/doctorfaustus/themeanalysis.html

an excerpt from a synopsis of "Doctor Faustus" by Christopher Marlowe.

A second theme in Doctor Faustus is that of greed. Like many of Marlowe's heroes, Faustus was self-driven by greed and ambition. In this case, the Doctor tries to satiate his appetite for knowledge and power. These heroes forget their responsibilities to God and their fellow creatures. Instead, they attempt to hide their weak characters with a megalomaniacal insanity. While Faustus is amused by the seven deadly sins, he does not realize that he is guilty of every single one, namely avarice and jealousy. In effect, Marlowe presents to the reader a good soul gone bad-a brilliant scholar who squanders his time with necromancy and is later courted by the devil himself. Although he is frequently surrounded by powerful heads of state, beautiful women and servile devils, Faustus is never truly happy. He tries to bury his unrest with luxury and debauchery, to no avail. What Faustus does not realize is that he craves happiness and salvation, not wealth and damnation. Instead, in a tragic cycle of greed and despair, Faustus sadly wallows in riches up to the time of his miserable death.
02:48 PM on 02/01/2010
I have something to say to all the Obama bashers regarding deficit spending. Where were you during Bush's reign of terror? If you bothered to do some reading, some research, some fact checking - you would see that the spending being done by this administrations, is a direct result of the prior administration. Of course, you would rather listen to Rush. Obama has 8 trillion left over to clean up from Bush. Don't you bother to listen to the President - or do you just listen to Rush? That's just plain ignorance if any of you do. Get your facts straight before bashing the President. I know you don't like him because he's Black. No other reason. That has to be it. There has never been in the history of this country, a more apt, intelligent, smart, strategic leader as we have now. Stop lying to yourselves. You don't care about the deficit - if you did, it would have made a difference under Bush. It didn't. Bush was not bashed for his policies because after all, he's White. And I really don't want to hear that I'm playing the race card when you Republicans call the President everything but a child of God. Get over it. Embrace your racism. In public - we know you do it in private.
03:11 PM on 02/01/2010
Ahh yes, play that race card and play it often. If you can't argue logic, call your opponents racists. How sad.
03:24 PM on 02/01/2010
You bet! I know more about it in my little finger than in your entire body, Trust me, I know racism when it is inflicted upon me, whether overt or implied. The sad part about it is, it's not a card. It is a state of being - as a matter of fact, for hundreds of years. Don't get it twisted. If you've never experienced racism, I don't think you are in a position to speak on it. I AM in a position to speak on it. And I spoke.
03:59 PM on 02/01/2010
We cannot, of course, speak for you specifically,"True," but to deny that there are vast numbers of racists among the republican ranks, who wouldn't vote for the black man no matter what, would just be another one of those big wet lies that fall fast and furiously from the elephant sector.
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Fox keeps me "INFROMED"!
02:47 PM on 02/01/2010
Dear Norman,

I remember "shoe-bootie" and tell people about it all the time.

Archie wasn't mean. Just a product of depression poverty and ignorance.

The people YOU wrote about are EEEVVIILLL to their core, and the ones you didn't write about here: the Buhses, Cheeneys, etc.

God Bless You, as well as all of us "dingbats".

The Doctor