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Oliver Stone

Posted: May 28, 2010 09:16 AM

Dispatch From Caracas

What's Your Reaction:

I've just arrived in Caracas for the South American premiere of my new documentary South of the Border. I've arrived as a media war is heating up in Venezuela, spurred on by national elections in the fall and widespread reports in the international press that President Hugo Chávez is cracking down on the political opposition and the country's financial institutions. Some are even alleging that he is a sponsor of terrorism.

President Chávez is a polarizing figure to be sure, widely demonized by U.S. reporters and cable news anchors who have broadcast claims that he is more dangerous than Osama Bin Laden. But is there any truth to these extreme assertions?

I was first invited to Venezuela to meet President Hugo Chávez during his aborted rescue mission of Colombian hostages, held by FARC, during Christmas of 2007. As is often the case, the man I met was not the man I'd read and heard about in the U.S. media. In the US I kept hearing he was a dictator, a bad guy and a menace. But I found him to be a charismatic and dynamic figure, bent on helping his country emerge from the crushing weight of US political interests.

So in January 2009 I returned to Caracas and spent three days speaking with him. Our interviews were relaxed and informal. We sat around and talked, or ventured into the countryside touring agricultural areas, housing projects and factories that have flourished since he took office. And a side of the man emerged that has rarely if ever been glimpsed in the U.S. media.

I then set out across South America to interview his allies in the region -- President Evo Morales of Bolivia, Lula da Silva of Brazil, Cristina Kirchner of Argentina, as well as her husband and ex-President Nestor Kirchner, Fernando Lugo of Paraguay, Rafael Correa of Ecuador and Raúl Castro of Cuba. Leader after leader seemed to be saying the same thing. They wanted to control their own resources, strengthen regional ties, be treated as equals with the U.S., and pursue their own national economic and foreign policies. Out of these interviews emerged South of the Border, a political road movie that offers a portrait of a continent at the cross-roads of change and a new generation of political leaders with a collective determination to set their own political course.

Over the course of the next week, we'll premiere the film in public venues across the continent, including the Plaza Bolivar in Caracas, and the first ever film premiere in the Cochabamba region of Bolivia -- making good on the promise we made to the leaders in the film: to return to all of these countries to screen the film for their people.

So is President Chávez really the anti-American pariah we've read about for years? Is he really all that different from the other democratic, left-of-center leaders who now govern most of the region? I don't believe so, but I encourage you to see South of the Border when it comes out in the US in June and make up your own mind.


For more information, you can go to www.southoftheborderdoc.com

This will be the first in a series of 'dispatches from South of the Border' that will be filed over the next eight days by the filmmaking team providing insights and color as Oliver fulfills a promise he made to the leaders featured in the film that he would return to share "South of the Border" with the people.

 
 
 
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12:55 PM on 06/21/2010
Oliver Stone has lost all credibility he may have had in the past. Going to South America and speaking with Chavez' allies to prove that he and his buddies are good leaders? Give me a break! Did Stone bother to interview the politicians, students, and people who had their rights crushed, were killed, jailed, or intimidated? who's votes were stolen? whose media outlets were shutdown by the Chaviztas? those who have been living in fear of losing their private properties and basic human rights? and those who had to learn to deal with the lack of sugar, poultry, dairy, coffee, toilet paper, and now electricity? I am so happy to see that this bunch of bologna Stone called a documentary is a box office bust.
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03:35 PM on 06/10/2010
http://venezuelanalysis.com/

The website venezuelanalysis.com is looking for a hard-working journalist interested in spreading word about what is happening in Venezuela.
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11:08 PM on 06/09/2010
again i thank all the posters who replied and commented my posts. thanks to all of you: the pros and the cons...i haven't been connected since the 29th of may so i didn't get a chance to read your replies and comments till tonite. but after everything has been said and written. the people of venezuela have spoken at the box office. robin hood and sex and the city2 beat chavez and oliver stone, so there's not much more i can post arguing for or against. my own people, who suffer chavez every minute have spoken loud and clear ;) imagine chavez beaten down by sex and the city 2 and robin hood. can't think of a better ending for my point of view...LOL
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10:49 PM on 06/09/2010
after all the 906 comments or so about this absurd movie pontificating a completely one sided, totally naive point of view about chavez's dastardly deeds these past 11 years under the justification that he was elected by the people, all im going to inform is: 3806 containers of the governments company PDVAL filled with rotten food have been found since the 29th of may. a total of 20.000 tons of food, and counting, that could have fed the whole country during 3 days has been rotting under the gvmnts nose, with the gvmnts knowledge, while they have been jailing butchers and accusing small shop owners of speculation. oh, yes, i was forgetting: that in venezuela, when "south of the border" opened this past week, it was beaten at the box office by robin hood and sex and the city2. need i say more? no, didn't think so. see you later alligators....
10:17 AM on 06/03/2010
I'm gonna do my part for -this- country to be even better instead of looking for things to say that will make me fell and look better at the expense of other's freedom. See ya.
10:15 AM on 06/03/2010
Chavez=foxnews styled GOP. Which is sadly for America, the only type of conservatism that --appears-- to exist.
They are both extremist liars that have absolute disregard for logic, ethics and the right of people to think and act for themselves without coercion.
My point is -actively- worry about the US instead of using someone else's misery to help you "make points" out of thin air . Volunteer -here- to increase literacy levels, sponsor a child in need, bring food to the elderly.
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12:47 AM on 06/02/2010
People from the US often cannot believe their government is doing anything BAD, when they are.

People from Latin America often cannot believe their government is doing anything GOOD, when they are.

There is very low social trust in Latin America, for good reason. That means that people may trust family members but not the broader society including government and politicians.

I know this but even I was surprise to hear Colombians saying things about the presidential candidate, Íngrid Betancourt, who'd been held by the FARC for 6 1/2 years after she was released like "She is a lying politician like all them" and "She deserved to be kidnapped." Really incredible.

I found myself wondering if some Latin Americans aren't so cynical that even if they had Jesus Christ as president they wouldn't say "Well he deserves to be crucified."

This is not to say Chavez, or any other of the presidents mentioned, are messiahs. Just saying that if you ask those Latin Americans who say their own president is a demon, who was not, which president wasn't a demon, I bet they can't name one or can only name one.

It is just a matter of perspective. Who is the worst leader? More often than not it is the one you, yourself, have to put up with.
03:08 PM on 06/02/2010
oh! I am latin american!: here's your answer: in Colombia, Alvaro Uribe did achieve a lot- In Venezuela, Romulo Betancourt was good from what you can read in history. Rafael Caldera was not jesus. But he almost recovers the country dealing with a nation almost entirely dependent on oil... and with the barrel at $18 he was pulling the country out of oil dependency...
Further: Chavez is doing some short term good. But he is not giving tools for anyone -poor- to stop being poor and dependant.
So his "good" is scraps- to keep the people happy.
Hey, that government is the natural consequence of the 50 previous years as well. I clearly concede to that So that poverty-manipulation story is not new. But now it is worst.
That is not a democratic movement, it is the return to feudalism.
there's your perspective
03:32 PM on 06/02/2010
oh.. I am a registered democrat. I happened to be lucky enough to be a citizen of this great country. I feel guilty because my friends there have no options. You don't know what you are talking about, you are so lucky you don't know... I want to see your face and your opinion the day that you go to the market to get meat, and there is none. The day you realize that there is only one brand of milk available and it's bad, you are using your computer and you have to rush because the government is going to cut the power in your area.... that is an oil rich nation, there is --no-- shortage of electric power. That rationing is just to keep the people in the dark and scare them.
I guess I have annoyed you with too much reality.
I guess it's time for more of your Kool aid.
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02:09 AM on 06/03/2010
Yes, they say "Give a man a fish, and he eats for a day. Teach him to fish, and he eats the rest of his life." The problem is he has to serve to learn to fish. If you starve him to death before he learns, he won't eat for life.

There has to be a bridge between the two states.

Clinton was just speaking on this. He said we need to help countries build [productive] capacity and ensure all the people share in the bounty created by that capacity.

He said the Haitians in need, the Americans who bring guns to town meetings and the people who have elected populist leaders in Latin America feel they have been left out of the bounty, that they don't have control over their lives. And until we build capacity and share the prosperity, they will continue to elect more and more radical leaders. They'll continue to behave more and more irrationally as in the US running around with guns in the public forum.

If the US conservatives get their way, you'll be longing for the days of Chavez. Surely they'll install a military dictatorship. You won't have to worry about the poor getting scraps, no Venezuelan will get anything. The entire point is to exploit Venezuelans and take their wealth, by force if need be. So, don't give your enemy any aid or comfort by sharing in the demonization of Chavez. It is a pretext. They don't care about democracy anywhere.
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12:37 PM on 05/31/2010
No conservatives here are answering for me why they give a pass to Communist China and their slave labor camps, why they give a pass to Saudi Arabia and their child brides. But a democratic regime cannot stand in Venezuela?

You don't object to communism (China) or totalitarianism (Saudi Arabia) around the world as long as they have people you can exploit or resources you want. And you don't object to people being killed or starved either if they have no natural resources you want that is.

So, you really have simple values. Natural resources should be exploited to benefit the US and the people should exploited to benefit the US. And Chavez thumbs his nose at you. That is your real problem with him.
02:58 PM on 06/02/2010
lady: you don't know what democracy is.
democracy is: ----------not american idol-----------
it is not -an election- it is not a popularity contest.
Democracy is a ---------------System---------------------
Not a person.
I rest my case- the rest I assume, is beyond your means to comprehend.
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01:18 AM on 06/03/2010
I suppose you think China and Saudi Arabia are democracies?
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11:16 AM on 05/31/2010
If I had to pick Venezuela's leader, I probably would not pick Chavez.

But, you know what? I don't get to pick. Only the Venezuela people get to do that.

My big objection to the demonization of Chavez by US conservatives is b/c the only purpose is to subvert the will of the Venezuelan people. And the reason US conservatives want to subvert the will of the Venezuelan people is so that they can put into place a government, probably a military dictatorship, that will allow them to take the natural resource of Venezuela and exploit the people.

Only the Venezuelans have a right to replace Chavez. No one in the US or nor in multinational corporations.
11:35 AM on 05/31/2010
Yeah...right...that is if anybody could oppose him without a problem.
Isn't Chavez trying to change the rules there so he can be in office forever and not have any more elections....
Oh yes...the U.S. wants to subvert the will of the people that has apparently already been subverted and exploit people who seem to already be exploited.
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11:44 AM on 05/31/2010
Chavez was elected by the people.
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11:51 AM on 05/31/2010
They threw off Spanish rule and can throw off Chavez rule too if they chose not to do it at the ballot box. Either way, election or revolt, it is up to Venezuela to determine their destiny, not the US.
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11:45 AM on 05/31/2010
It ain't just conservatives who criticize Chavez. Many on the left recognize that Chavez is bad, bad news, and are not willing to support him just because he purports to be left wing.

I agree with you about intervention - up to limit. But should the current food shortages turn into famine, and should Chavez block international aid, the international community will face the options of intervention or mass deaths.
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12:01 PM on 05/31/2010
Of course, Chavez is not ideal. Everyone recognizes that, including the left.

One difference is recognizing real short-comings (left) vs. exaggerating those short-comings and inventing new ones (right).

Another difference is the motivation. The right has consistently advocated the overthrow of democratic regimes whereas the left has no.
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12:04 PM on 05/31/2010
Chile, Bachelet, was right to reject US "aid" after their earthquake b/c they know that it diminishes their sovereignty.
02:05 AM on 05/31/2010
hi Oliver, when you hear that someone threw tomatoes at your movie screen it's me.
I am Venezuelan, hey! Why don't I take you to for a night in caucaguita, no police escort, no cameras, to live in a Rancho? better, I'll ask you how you feel as you walk up the stairs for the first half an hour, carryibng buckets of water to your shack to drink, defecate, bath and prepare pasta with sardines at dinner time? why don't I leave you alone to leave the slums at three AM? [you wont last one block --whitie--, a racist-government-backed-revolution is what's going on there- you are the enemy]. Your client... your "John"... Chavez, has been in power for 10 years and those conditions are worse than the way he found them, on the other hand he has gotten the highest historical oil revenues in history. Mr. Green,go home. take your condescendencing tourist mentality and go pros--ti--t-te your self to get some cr-a --q somehwere else. Venezuela has enough degradation without people like you.
11:37 AM on 05/31/2010
Amen to that...
11:51 PM on 05/30/2010
Here we go again...time for publicity for a documentary.
How nice that all this praise is being given to Chavez.
Anybody making or appearing in a movie, is sure to put their
best foot forward....
Sometimes if you read between the lines you find that same foot in the mouth.

Maybe it is time for some of the Hollywood bleeding hearts to move to Venezuela since they seem to like it so much.
Funny how many people have praise for some countries that seem to be very restrictive, but choose to spend their time in the
U.S. Wonder why that is....Could it be freedom of speech...
No matter what kind of speech it happens to be....
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05:20 PM on 05/30/2010
My greatest concern is that Chavez is getting very aggressive at socializing the food industry, including farming:

http://www.greenleft.org.au/node/44305

Why am I afraid? Because some of the greatest famines of the 20'th century -- China, Russia, North Korea -- were caused or enormously aggravated by the collectivization of food production.

I wonder if Stone fully realizes the import of his politics.
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05:44 PM on 05/30/2010
Agree that food security is important.

That is why I oppose "collectivization" of food production by agribusiness.
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06:13 PM on 05/30/2010
Well you're in luck then, cause Chavez is dissembling agribusiness in Venezuela as we speak. Unfortunately the people of Venezuela are likely not in luck.
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04:43 PM on 05/30/2010
Pretty much all dictators are engaging in person. They have to be able to convince people to follow them, that's how they rise to power.
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12:56 AM on 06/02/2010
"Chávez was elected President in 1998 with a campaign centering on promises of aiding Venezuela's poor majority, and was reelected in 2000 and in 2006. Domestically, Chávez has maintained nationwide Bolivarian Missions, whose goals are to combat disease, illiteracy, malnutrition, poverty, and other social ills." http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hugo_Ch%C3%A1vez

He is the democratically elected president, not a dictator.
08:49 AM on 05/30/2010
Do the names Pinochet, Videla, Galtieri, d'Abuisson, Stroessner, Geisel, Somoza, and Rios-Montt ring a bell with anyone? They should. They were all dictators in Latin America who acquired reputations for being human rights violators. Violators on a massive scale. To the extent that any respondents here would disagree with that assessment, I would be inclined to disregard their criticism of Hugo Chavez, because such criticism would obviously reflect a double standard. That still leaves open the possibility that some respondents could be making unbiased criticisms of Hugo Chavez. I'm willing to hear them, but I expect them to confirm that the aforementioned surnames reallly were those of massive human rights violators.
10:34 AM on 05/30/2010
They do indeed. Those are the names of politicians who made it to the top thanks to - often covert - support by the US government. 'Nuff said.
12:23 PM on 05/30/2010
Of course Hugo Chavez is a great democratic leader. Just ask memnbers of "Hollywood For Hugo" or Mark lloyd.

Unfortunately, when I research Hugo, I find out that he has killed a lot of people (just like Fidel, Raul and Che), created food shortages, shut down free press and is arming himself to the teeth - even building an AK-47 factory.
01:13 PM on 05/30/2010
But I notice you never answered the question I posed. One thing at a time.
05:44 PM on 05/30/2010
You know, I hear you on the killing. When I research names like Bush, I find out that he has killed a lot of people(just like Clinton, Nixon, Carter, Bush Sr., Reagan) created puppet governments in Iraq, Afghanistan, overthrew countless others, bombed civilians in other countries, and armed himself to the teeth - even spent 500 billion dollars on weapons, which is more than the entire rest of the world, combined.
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06:46 PM on 05/29/2010
US conservatives always crack me up with their over the top opposition to leaders like Chavez and Morales. Even Bachelet is a big scary socialist!

US conservatives oppose democratic states and their democratically elected leaders while supporting Communist China (at least by buying their products every week) and totalitarian theocratic regimes like Saudi Arabia (at least by buying their gas every week).

Of course all the democratic regimes they oppose really are bad according to them, they've committed crimes (as though US conservatives have not), and need to be taken over.

The problem is that US conservatives have cried "Wolf!" so many times on this topic, it is impossible to take you seriously, even if you have legitimate concerns.
12:24 PM on 05/30/2010
I presume that you support israel which DOES have a democratically elected government.
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12:52 PM on 05/30/2010
I support Israel's right to exist. That does not mean I support everything Israel does.

However, I'm not a fan of theocracies and Israel is far to close to a theocratic state for my tastes.

Israel is defined in several of its laws as a "Jewish and democratic state" (medina yehudit ve-demokratit).

As of 2010, there is no civil marriage in Israel. If you are a secular state, why not have secular marriage? Freedom of religion necessarily includes freedom FROM religion.

In 1961, Israeli legislation gave Muslim Shari'a courts exclusive jurisdiction in matters of personal status. I strongly oppose the use of "religious" laws in lieu of secular laws, more so where the "religious" laws provide no justice for women.

I presume you support democratic regimes in Latin America, even if they are populist.
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02:13 PM on 05/30/2010
Regardless of my opinions of Israel, I certainly would not demonize their leaders nor their form of government in order to justify meddling in their internal affairs. I surely would never demonize their leaders nor their form of government in order to justify deposing their leaders, killing their leaders, kidnapping members of the government, or invading without provocation as has been done by US conservatives in the past.