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Oliver Willis

Posted: November 12, 2009 08:07 PM

Liberal Elitism? No. Some People Are, Sadly, Stupid

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Mike Elk takes "liberal elitism" to task for not taking the Tea Party people seriously, and that that will lead to the election of Sarah Palin and other such ilk.

To quote our vice president, malarkey.

While I have long argued that there is too much elitism on the left for my tastes, there's a wide gulf between holding your nose in the air for no good reason and dumbing yourself down in order to appeal to the lowest common idiotic denominator. Such is the case with the Tea Party group and their leaders like Palin.

Far from the liberals in the '70s who were clearly not responsive enough to the middle class, leading to the rise of Nixon and resentment politics, today's left has gone to great lengths to be a big tent. So much so that some of our biggest fault lines are internal and don't involve the Republicans at all. But far from the pre-Clinton great society types, today's liberals understand that without blue collar people on our side we don't advance as a movement.

The problem is that the vast majority of the issues brought up by the tea party types and Palin are idiotic. These aren't people with the traditional lower-middle class concerns of Americans (which is my family background) but instead these are people who largely believe the conspiracy du jour, whether that involves secret armies, the president's "true" nationality, or Nancy Pelosi's "death panels" that are set up to pull the plug on Grandma.

While the concerns of many white, middle-class people are worthy causes and should be addressed by liberals (and are), it is not elitism to treat this roving band of conspiracy nuts for the cretins they are or associate with. This would be akin to President Johnson in 1964 undertaking a federal committee to study the mind control powers of fluoridated water. That would be asinine.

Liberals have in the past allowed the ivory tower set to exert too much control over the Democratic party. That resulted in a narrow focus and deserved electoral losses. But the idea that the tea party movement represents any sort of rational discourse deserving of recognition and outreach is absurd. These are, by and large, the same band of stupid people we have always had in this country, whether they were in favor of submission to the British empire, secession from the union, alliance with Hitler, or decrying the president a "half breed Muslim terrorist", we owe them no recognition or inclusion in the important discussion about the direction of American society.

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09:55 AM on 02/09/2010
As Betty Davis once said, "old age isn't easy." I spent a good portion
of my life living in Swindon. It's a mid size city in the UK. It was a wonderful
experience but I returned to my hometown in Connecticut & here I remain.

I love my country & believe it or not I'm a liberal democrat who enlisted
an went to Korea where fun was not in the dictionary. I'm no hero for sure
but I did receive a purple heart & it was earned. I treasure this common medal.

This said, I disagree with the tea baggers because they seem to think hey
cornered the market on patriotism in America. Well it's not close to the truth.
Be proud of your country but don't have the idea that because you have a
certain political opinion everyone that disagrees with you is in that old "love
it or leave it category." When I see a tea bag person with a sign depicting
president Obama as Hitler then I know holding it is a fool & a disgrace
to his country. Just a personal opinion. First amendment, you know. :-)
09:14 AM on 02/09/2010
Just keep the government out of my vets benefits, my social security &
Medicare. I want my America back. :-)
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AbsolutDemocrat
05:18 PM on 02/08/2010
Thank you for saying everything I'd been trying to explain to oh so many people. God help this country.
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lgillooly
05:15 PM on 02/08/2010
I agree with your premise, but big money and corporations control the stories we hear and watch, frame the debate and pick the talking points. Talk radio and fox promote the Tea party because they are people who are angry and can be manipulated to believe that the enemy is the Governmnent and not the big banks, oil, Pharma or war profiteers. The sad thing is these people are making it worse for us all by there hatred for Democrats and this President.
All during the Bush yrs we were told by talk radio and fox that if you disagree with Bush/Cheney you were unpatriotic and sided with the terrorists.
When a Democrat is in the oval office (Clinton, Obama) then it is patriotic to attack, smear and disagree with Government. Notice they make the rules and always use patriotism. Since they have monopolized talk radio stations they can repeat and repeat their points all day every day.
Basically If the Prez is an R...Obey and protect him
If he is a D attack and get rid of him Does anyone see a problem with this???
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fausto412
04:39 PM on 02/08/2010
Amen!
12:16 AM on 11/20/2009
Actually, Nixon was elected in 1968. Maybe excesses of the 60's?
03:12 PM on 11/16/2009
Bravo!

(And he makes great movies, too!)
11:54 PM on 11/15/2009
What a lovely piece
11:54 PM on 11/15/2009
This is a very wonderful article. Testing
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07:00 PM on 11/15/2009
"While the concerns of many white, middle-class people are worthy..."
"...the traditional lower-middle class concerns of Americans..."

The post he is supposedly responding to was about working class people. The poster apparently can't even bring himself to write the words working class let alone think their point of view might be worth considering.
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JazzyJim
Nuzis stay to the Right
04:22 PM on 02/08/2010
Your supposition is incorrect. Go back and read again please. Start with the title of the blog - and then readdress your highlighted points to the full context of which they are used.

You'll find the piece is thoughtful and on spot. I re-read it just to see what in the h*** you were talking about.

Thanks for playing.
11:07 AM on 11/15/2009
While I agree that we cannot take what the "teabaggers" and their like say seriously, we cannot simply dismiss the anger either. It may be misdirected anger and their sense of entitlement to some former world that never really existed is rather stupid but, that does not mean the root of the anger itself is illegitimate. They may be mistaken about who and what is causing their real income to stagnate or go down but they are not wrong to be angry about it as we do live in a country with every increasing economic disparity. They may be angry at an increasing lack "values" that they wrongly attribute to liberalism but can anyone say we are not a less empathetic, less civil, less conversational, more greedy, more fearful, more self centered country than we were 30 or 40 years ago? All of us have let politicians and corporations frame the questions and create boogymen (ie, "liberals" or "teabaggers") so we fight amongst ourselves rather than the moneyed interests who seek to exploit us at any cost. So the grassroots left needs to stop gloating so much over not being crazy and start being smarter about who and what they are fighting.
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11:44 AM on 11/15/2009
The tea baggers have much in common with Al Qaeda. They object vehemently (not yet violently) to modern life. It's complex, techno-driven and confusing, Simple "values" seem missing in a multi-cultural world, especially seen through the gauzy filter of memory. Having been an adult 30-40 years ago I doubt that they're yearning for the virtues of the hippies or the Black Panthers: sex, drugs, and rock-and-roll--I don't think so. I suspect they bought into Reagan's nostalgic rhetoric and lapsed into a dream state from which they have only lately awakened.
08:56 PM on 11/15/2009
Well said. Sometimes I bemoan the fact that people don't see the parallels between the moral/political Islamic fundamentalist movement and some moral/ppolitical movements in US. I call it "American Taliban Radio" and Limbaugh et al. are the Imams. It sounds harsh, but the two overlay each other closely - only the names are changed to protect the belligerent.

However... perception is reality for many, and we've never had this political dynamic along with a large propaganda arm masquerading as news... We should not rely on lessons of the past to fully inform us of the future.
11:53 PM on 11/15/2009
What a comparison! They are going around causing the end of thousands of their fellow americans? Oh the failure of the american education system has been with us for a long time.
06:14 PM on 11/14/2009
Back in 1948 someone came up with a bunch of ideas we seem to have forgotten....curiously many of them contradict and are the opposite of what"tea partiers" stand for, including the ones against health care reform....art. 24 and 25 illustrate that well as do art. 5,6,7, 9....

www.un.org/en/documents/udhr/
06:20 PM on 11/14/2009
for some reason the link says that the page does not exist...but it does.
It is the site of the Universal Declaration of Human Rights......
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TRex86
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03:20 PM on 11/14/2009
I suspect the tea baggers are a sub-group of Baby Boomers that missed out on the fun of the 60's and 70's. At the end of that tumultuous era they fell under the hypnagogic trance of Reaganism, buying the golden fantasy, but two generations later they sputter in unfocused anger. I recall a 60 something woman at a rally moaning piteously that she wanted her country back. Ditto with a younger woman at a Spector rally (later shown unable to explain herself) demanding that we return to the country of our founders.
Take the country back from what? From whom? What would that look like, a visit to Mayberry? The tragic fact is that these are ignorant people, who can make no sense of the modern world. They tend to be religious, which seems to cripple their analytical ability. Some are true believers of the right wing dogma machine, drawn to the incoherent rants of Glenn Beck by his projection of their emotional turmoil. They rail against a diverse, multi-cultural America. At the end of the day, however, one must ask, "What exactly do they want?" Notwithstanding Bush's near destruction of our economy there is nothing in modern life that's all that scary. Sadly, tThey represent the political manipulation of hysteria for its own sake.
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04:15 PM on 02/08/2010
The Tea Party movement is partly an outgrowth of the segment of the population that is not only ignorant and uneducated, but belligerently proud to be ignorant and uneducated. Baffled in school by mathematics and hard science, they persuaded themselves that those who can learn such arcane subjects are untrustworthy "elitists".

As adults, they are unable to follow the science and math necessary to comprehend economics - so they are prey for any popular pundit who will tell them that the current situation is the fault of the current administration, despite evidence to the contrary.

They never learned history beyond the simplistic narratives taught in high school - now they will support any candidate who spouts catch-phrases about "founding fathers".

They fell asleep in biology class - now they fall for any junk science related to health care that supports their mistrust of those better educated than themselves - for surely, doctors, nurse-practitioners, and physician assistants are the ultimate "elitists". Not to mention their uncritical parroting of creationist dogma.

This segment of the population has been ripe for the picking by any opportunists who can play on their fears and mistrust of what they can't comprehend. Some of those opportunists - such as Beck - have found a lucrative audience and feed them whatever will get them to continue to tune in. Others, like Mrs. Palin, are, appallingly, sincere in their sharing of the soi-disant "real Americans'" aversion to education.
09:19 AM on 02/09/2010
Great post, serraseven-you are stuck with another fan. :-)
03:03 PM on 11/14/2009
The beauty of the web is that those considered to be nuts by the bien pensant elements on the periphery of what CW calls liberalism already have their own sites to counter the uniformly incorrect opionions of the bien pensant elements of the LINO, Liberals In Name Only. The use of malediction is an American custom but isn't an American Art form.
02:50 PM on 11/14/2009
Thank you, Oliver. I don't know why America has decided that we must race to the bottom in every way...wages, education, bigotry. Sorry, but I don't think it's elitist to expect the average citizen to have at least some critical thinking skills. I'm not sure when we started to hold up blind allegiance to a political ideology that is not in our own best interests as a badge of honor. Let the screaming, racist hordes wear themselves out with their tea-bagging nonsense and lets get back to actually doing something to make us proud to be Americans. Just saying it isn't good enough.