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Oliver Willis

Posted: January 26, 2010 03:14 AM

The Liberal Blogosphere Goes Fox News

What's Your Reaction:

One of the problems I've always feared is that should we elect a Democratic president in this country, he or she might face a domestic handicap among that most unlikely of sources: liberals. Sadly, I'm turning out to be right, and today's collective pants-wetting on both liberal blogs and on Twitter has been a sight to behold.

Let's go back to the beginning. Every viable candidate for the Democratic nomination came down on the center-left of the American political spectrum. Especially when it came down to Clinton and Obama. On the Republican side (at least perception wise) the candidates that were viable were seen by most to be on the center-right. Why? Because when it comes down to it the American people are not overwhelmingly of any consistent ideology. The same people who would riot in the streets if you touched Social Security or Medicare are the same people who think they should get a tax cut and that the government "spends too much" (just don't cut the government money that *their* member of congress brings home, the problem is with the *other* 434 districts and 49 *other* states, naturally).

What happens in the Democratic party is that the center left candidate makes his positions on the issues pretty clear, and the progressive base of the party assumes that like the Republican candidate, he or she is secretly one of them and upon election day will bust out with some Howard Zinn on everyone's ass. On the Republican side, they don't win unless they cover up their zealotry with "compassionate conservative" pixie dust, they largely stay the hell away from clerics like Pat Robertson and Grover Norquist come election time.

As we saw with Bill Clinton's presidency, the reaction to this not happening can get pretty loud pretty quickly.

Personally I'm not as liberal as a lot of the Democratic base, but I'm not nearly as conservative as others inevitably accuse me of being. I'm pretty liberal on social issues but a caveman on national defense and criminal justice. I think that's pragmatic, but one man's pragmatism is another's Mao or another's DLC. Whatever. Either way, I tend to think Democratic presidents don't do enough of what the base wants -- for example Clinton's NAFTA mistake or Obama's inexplicable foot dragging on Don't Ask Don't Tell repeal and fruitless concessions to the GOP and conservadems on the size and impact of the stimulus.

That said, the liberal attacks on Obama, just short of calling him The Black Hitler, don't accomplish anything other than sending a signal to Democratic presidents that their base really does want to find the quickest most expeditious path to knife them in the back.

I'm not saying liberals should keep themselves quiet and rubber stamp the president -- people who make this argument are simply making a down payment on the straw to run their farms. But what I am saying is that liberals too often treat Democratic presidents like Maury Povich just told them that he has in fact failed the lie detector test.

We saw that on Monday with the leaked story that the Obama administration planned some spending freezes. What we know about the proposal:

* It exists
* Defense spending is exempt
* If/when there's a second stimulus or jobs bill it is exempt
* Health care reform would be exempt
* It is targeting redundancies, waste, excess, etc.
* The details of what will be targeted have not been released yet

That halfway story seemed to be all liberals needed in order to issue their own Fox News Alerts about the betrayal and then began the parade of frankly embarrassing hysteria.

I don't personally like the framing of these issues in one that favors conservatives, that is a fight versus government spending. Not at all, and in an ideal situation a Democratic president should laugh at the idea, knowing that everyone with common sense understands the long term value of government investment in the American economy and social safety net.

We do not live in this ideal world. We live in a world where, as I noted above, the people across the spectrum hold contradictory ideas within their own minds about what constitutes rational public policy. If some are concerned with spending, it seems the least harmful way to do this is to have a bone thrown their way that will actually lower *some* spending without harming the president's domestic agenda.

Is it less perfect than a pony? Sure. Would President Jed Bartlett do it? Probably not, but real life isn't a pitch-perfect Aaron Sorkin script and a fade out after 60 minutes of plot.

How does one correct someone who is on your side but has bouts of straying like President Obama? Offer constructive criticism, rather than throwing his clothes on the lawn, for one. You've got a perfectly good right to bitch as well as moan about things, but the equivalent of crying "fire" in a crowded theater just makes for a crappy moviegoing experience.

Barack Obama is the center-left, charismatic politician he has been for most of his life in the public. There are numerous issues on which he should be much more progressive, not just for the overall fortunes of the progressive movement, but for the future strength of the country. But we won't get there if every perceived misstep (especially one based on a less than clear story that is slowly being filled in) is greeted as if he kicked a puppy in the teeth. We shouldn't help a media environment that already favors Democratic politicians wagging their finger at the base, nor should we allow Democratic pols to get away with conservative nonsense.

Measure pols like Obama on their words and hold them to high standards, but don't profess anger at them for not holding up to a caricature you dreamily doodled in your Trapper Keeper.

Oliver Willis blogs daily at OliverWillis.com

 

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Michael Valentine
Retired SEIU Member
11:54 PM on 01/28/2010
Let's just say that as a liberal backer of Candidate Obama I was expecting change with regards to the military industrial complex. But instead they have President Obama as buffaloed as President Bush ever was. Freeze the budget except for the military? Smart move sir.
11:55 PM on 01/27/2010
Lucid article. I totally agree.
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myjoyy
08:01 PM on 01/27/2010
Why do I feel like I died and woke on on KOS? No sn@rk intended.
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Helzapoppin
Don't Piss Down My Back And Tell Me It's Raining.
08:11 AM on 01/27/2010
blind sycophancy
08:09 AM on 01/27/2010
Mr. Willis, thank you for the most reasonable comment I have seen on recent "progressive" behavior toward the President. The left wing attacks and the right wing attacks are starting to sound suspiciously similar in their irrationality. I agree with you that I would like for President Obama to take different positions on some issues. I also agree with you that the way to deal with this is "constructive criticism," not hysteria and condemnation. He is not a left winger, but he is not, by any stretch of the imagination, George W Bush. People need to know the difference. I turned off Keith and Rachel last night because they were screaming about the "freeze" before the President even explained it. Cooler heads need to prevail, or the "progressives" will bring back the republicans. Despite their behavior, I do not think that is what they intend to do.
10:30 PM on 01/26/2010
Regarding the "leaked" spending freeze (we do all realize that this kind of "leak" is more of a trial balloon, don't we?), the some of the pushback from the liberal side has been a little bit heated (although I'm still looking for that "Black Hitler" reference).

I think this is mostly due to frustration. The context is two ongoing and very expensive
occupations and what appears to be 20% under/un/discourgaged employment for the foreseeable future. In this context, a discretionary spending freeze is floated as meaningful policy?

In this case, I think Mr. Willis characterized it correctly -- a bone thrown to the born-again-as-long-as-it-doesn't-affect-me deficit hawks. The thing is, what's the point? They're not going to care. They're going to be just as obnoxious as ever, because what they really want is not control of the deficit but the return of Republican political dominance. (If you doubt this, try to find one that thinks Bill Clinton was a good President because he ran surpluses).

So, some libruls, including me, regard this as a bad idea mostly because it's a pointless distraction. If implemented, it would have negligible impact on the deficit and zero impact on the obstructionists, and by even proposing it, the President is implicitly conceding more ground in exchange for nothing. At this rate, we won't even need an election to return the Repos to power.
09:57 PM on 01/26/2010
This article is intellectual inconsistency wrapped around a straw man.

Straw man: The “Liberal Blogosphere” is damaging the President and the nation by behaving childishly (see, “Trapper Keeper”) and maliciously (“Black Hitler”) because they were too stupid to realize Mr. Obama is a centrist Democrat.

While “liberal blogosphere” is not an oxymoron like “liberal MSM”, it's still uselessly vague. Now, it could be defined to include every random ALL-CAPS commenter on any remotely liberal blog, but this would overlook the existence of both genuine left-wing loonies and lots and lots of trolls. A more useful definition would be “folks who blog on a regular basis, and who self-identify as liberal”.

Very few of these folks were surprised to discover that the President is not a flaming radical. OTOH, many have been surprised and disappointed by the number of occasions where he has adopted – or accepted – positions well right of center. Criticism has been slow to emerge, and generally respectful (“Excuse me, sir, but did you notice you just screwed over a whole lot of the folks that voted for you?”). BTW, please do give a citation supporting your “Black Hitler” remark.

Intellectual inconsistency: “I'm not saying liberals should keep themselves quiet and rubber stamp the president …”. But that is the whole point of the article, isn’t it?

“Either way, I tend to think Democratic presidents don't do enough of what the base wants…”. But the base should just shut up?
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Passenger57
Keeping Calm And Carrying On...
08:38 PM on 01/26/2010
WHAT WILL HAPPEN IF THIS KEEPS UP:
In 2012, the Republicans win...and we're back in the s - - tpot again.
Repubs : "Yaaaayyyyy!"
Dems : "Oops!"
07:42 PM on 01/26/2010
Thank you for expressing what I have been thinking and saying for a few weeks now. Left Wingers=Right Wingers, different ideologies, but same tunnel vision. Barack Obama was not the darling of the liberals, that was John Edwards. Most liberals switched to Obama when Edwards dropped out. If you had read Obama's books and really listened to him, you would have known that he had a liberal heart with a pragmatic, center left, view of governing, so that legislation could get passed. And in case you all forget, it is the Independents, who are neither extreme liberal or extreme conservative, that are making the differences in elections. President Obama and the Democratic majority in Congress were elected with a coalition of minorities, Independents, liberals and new voters. If the left wingers continue with their Fox like condemnation of President Obama, then you really can expect Republicans to take over the government again. And that might be fine with you because the Republican Party has historically always been for the rights of all main street Americans (RIGHT!).
07:59 PM on 01/26/2010
Thank you for posting this, well said.
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08:11 PM on 01/26/2010
Co-sign!
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06:27 PM on 01/26/2010
Oh, and Oliver, next time you say something like, ".....liberal attacks on Obama, just short of calling him The Black Hitler." can you please cite the instance?
Sorry I'm just a dumb librul, but this makes no sense.
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DiogenesOfAlaska
Mitt Romney for president - of the Cayman islands!
06:18 PM on 01/26/2010
In the long term:

'one man's pragmatism is another's Mao or another's DLC. Whatever.'

is precisely the kind of slogan or even 'truth' that needs to go. For good.

In the short term:

the pro and cons of the spending freeze are subtle and terribly difficult. I am against it. But what's certain is that it has NOTHING to do with gut decisions that build along the scale of lifetimes. It's something else. I don't know what it is, but it's something else.
06:10 PM on 01/26/2010
There are people still without jobs and mortgages underwater. That should have been his first priority. He goes to labor and tells them he'll fight for them and the next day he's asking them to make sacrifices. The auto industry and labor had to turn themselves upside to qualify for government help. The gifts to the banks have had no transparency and we watch bankers get bonuses. All those promises he made when he wanted our vote have been forgotten. Periodically, one of his cabinet comes out and knocks his base. Well folks, in the primary for the 2012 election I will be looking for a good progressive to run against him. If I wanted to elect a Republican I would have voted for one. If there is no difference between him and the Republican Party why should I vote for him. I will support Progressives in the 2010 election but I do not want my money going to a blue dog Democrat or Obama as his policies are now. Go get yourself an Independent or Republican to help your cause. You don't need my money.
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JimR
01:00 PM on 01/27/2010
OK, so what exactly should the president do that will directly lead to job creation?
06:00 PM on 01/26/2010
I've really tried to write something intelligent, but all I can come up with is a popular liberal phrase that's common to those who did listen, did believe what Candidate Obama really did say, which leaves me with only this. Bite me. If I wanted someone to bu--sh-- me I would have voted Republican.
08:40 PM on 01/26/2010
exactly. I don't want to wear out my keypad typing all the things obama campaigned on vs. what he's actually done, or more specifically, what he hasn't done. If it was just proclaiming that he wouldn't sign any healthcare bill without a public option, and then backtracking from that the moment he was sworn in, that would be enough, in my book, to not trust the guy. but it has been much, much more than the healthcare debacle, and this "spending freeze" (whether it's real, or an attempt to appear to move to the right). bit me, indeed!
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JimR
01:00 PM on 01/27/2010
So now you're just like the kid in the backseat of the car, wondering if we're there yet?
05:36 PM on 01/26/2010
Thanks for this article. I'm really worried that the anger of the left is just gonna result in a conservative republican government because somehow, whenever the left is mad at a democrat, we end up voting in a republican. I don't know how that works but it seems to often go down that way.

To all my fellow liberals and progressives, I'm not entirely happy with how things have panned out either, but I think the anger is misdirected. I'm not so mad at Obama than I am at Congress and Senate who seem to be the true cowards and weaklings unwilling to pass the items on the President's agenda. They water down or in some cases straight chop out those elements that progressives and liberals want. If Obama runs again, I intend to vote for him again. As for my Senator and Congress person, not so much.

Also, I was never under the impression that Obama was a progressive. He never ran as a progressive. I think all of you were indeed projecting an ideal on him. You all on the left that are mad at Obama, is this the first time you're following politics? Did you follow the Bush presidency as well? I ask because it seems like a lot of you don't really get how it works, particularly the role of the legislative branch.
06:48 PM on 01/26/2010
You're singing my song. Thanks for this post!
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08:14 PM on 01/26/2010
Agreed 100%

Except I will vote for my Senators (Tom Udall & Jeff Bingaman) and my Congressman (Martin Heinrich) again!!
ThePeacemakers
Concerned Citizen
05:35 PM on 01/26/2010
Liberals and progressives shouldn't be voting for him in 2012.

And don't come saying, but..but...they shouldn't have expected.

It's all good.

O shouldn't expect their votes again.
08:41 PM on 01/26/2010
He won't be getting mine again, I can assure you.