Pam Spaulding

Pam Spaulding

Posted: May 26, 2009 01:13 PM

What Will Marriage Equality Supporters Do During the Prop 8 Rallies?

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As we await the ruling on the constitutionality of Prop 8 (slated to drop at PM ET), here is a thoughtful piece by Christopher Geidner@ Law Dork. He discusses the forthcoming Prop 8 ruling by the California Supreme Court and the possible reactions in the LGBT and allies community if the ruling does not overturn it -- either by nullifying all the same-sex marriages or allowing the thousands of existing marriages to remain intact while still affirming Prop 8. He believes the Supreme Court will have the split decision. He also shares my concern that we have to worry just as much about misplaced anger turning into violence as we do from the right.

Assuming that outcome, which I believe is most likely, I'd ask -- and hope our national leaders would ask -- that we all take a breath before acting.  As I wrote Friday, the decision to be issued today is a legal determination about the structure of the California Constitution and the procedures available to the people to amend it.  A fair and vigorous debate has been had about whether Proposition 8 was the type of change envisioned as an amendment or if it was a revision, which would require a more lengthy and difficult process.

The California Supreme Court, at least a majority of its justices, already has shown its support for marriage equality.  Thus, there can be no claim made that this court comes at the issue of gay and lesbian equality with anything less than good faith.

I understood -- and participated in -- rallies held across the country following the passage of Proposition 8.  I understood the stark awakening that the vote was for many young LGBT people and our allies.  I supported this rejuvenated "gay movement."  We have seen the fruits of that awakening in Iowa, Vermont, D.C., Maine and New Hampshire, as well as in countless other states, cities and communities across the nation.

We must not let today's ruling change that momentum.

Geidner reminds readers that this ruling is not about the merits or legality of same-sex marriage -- the same state Supreme Court is the one that decided gays and lesbians could marry. So what we -- or perhaps Californians -- should be angry about is a state Constitution that allows civil rights to be placed on a ballot measure.

And:

Even if there is some overriding federal claim that marriage equality is guaranteed by the U.S. Constitution, it was not raised by the parties here.

...we have spent the past decade decrying those who demean the legitimacy of court decisions by attacking them. It would turn that principled stand on its head to say that this court, which previously held that marriage equality was guaranteed by the California Constitution, is somehow responsible in today's decision for "denying an entire group of people our civil rights."

He's right. For most of us, we won't have our state legislatures to count on to give us marriage equality, and certainly not "the people" if measures like Prop 8 make it on the ballot -- our rights will be ultimately be determined by the courts (and the President, Congress, and SCOTUS).

That said, if any or some marriages are nullified today, perhaps we can channel that anger in a positive way. I'm actually kind of skeptical that one can expect logical or rational reactions from angry people being denied civil rights by technicality, but one can try:

Rather than spouting anger at these rallies, organizers and speakers should be spouting information about legislative battles going on in their states and counties. The California rallies should be an opportunity to sign up marriage equality precinct captains all across the state, people who will be the local voices changing minds across that state.

For instance, a Blender suggested that people hand out a Dallas Principles flyer at these rallies -- ask and you shall receive. We do need to keep our eyes on the prize. After all, it's easier to motivate people to attend a rally out of anger or joy; it's unfortunately harder to get them to call their lawmakers or lobby their state elected officials to move the equality ball forward. The opposition however, has no difficulty getting people to call, write and show up at legislatures around the country on a regular basis.

There is also a postcard template available; download the front and the back elements.

Also:
* AP: Sonia Sotomayor is Obama's SCOTUS pick
* Orcinus: there may be a violent right-wing backlash if Prop 8 is overturned
* My video contribution in support of The Dallas Principles


As we await the ruling on the constitutionality of Prop 8 (slated to drop at PM ET), here is a thoughtful piece by Christopher Geidner@ Law Dork. He discusses the forthcoming Prop 8 ruling by the Cali...
As we await the ruling on the constitutionality of Prop 8 (slated to drop at PM ET), here is a thoughtful piece by Christopher Geidner@ Law Dork. He discusses the forthcoming Prop 8 ruling by the Cali...
 
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Thankyou Pam, beautifully written.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:14 PM on 05/29/2009
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postcards to legislators are probably helpful.

NOT TODAY

I'm with Robin Tyler...LG­BTs aren't going to say "PLEASE don't divorce us."

WE aren't going to say....."P­LEASE"....­..anymore.

Today's ruling made me so angry, writing and talking about it, doesn't even make a DENT in the FURY.
Hitting something inanimate with an ax for a few hours...is my therapy of choice.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:46 PM on 05/26/2009

"But it's going to be a long struggle to get the Federal courts to recognize that, just as it was for the African Americans.­"

10 years of the civil rights movement did more good than 150 years of legal court battles and waiting for our good leaders to do something.

The courts are not magic, they are subject to public pressure and for the last 30 years, the right and conservative Christians have had the feet on the ground to pressure the law to bend their way. All of our "rights" have to be fought for or else we won't get them. This is the lesson of the Civil Rights movement and Black Power that we should keep in mind going forward.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:36 PM on 05/26/2009
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In grade school we learned that in a constitutional democracy, the majority is not allowed to take away the civil rights of a minority.

The thirteenth, fourteenth, and fifteenth amendments were written after the Civil War to force states in which slave holding had been practiced to recognize the citizenship rights of people formerly held in slavery. Those amendments were ignored by many US Supreme Courts over the years, until they finally got some application one hundred years later.

According to the fourteenth amendment, "No state shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any state deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws."

"The equal protection clause has been violated when a state grants a particular class of individuals the right to engage in an activity yet denies other individuals the same right."
http://topics.law.cornell.edu/wex/Equal_protection

So, California's Proposition 8 violates the US Constitution. But it's going to be a long struggle to get the Federal courts to recognize that, just as it was for the African Americans.

It may be easier to convince the majority to let the minority have its rights, for now. In the long run, a California constitution that facilitates majority tyranny is a dangerous and undemocratic document, and needs correction, as soon as possible.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:00 PM on 05/26/2009

You are sooooo RIGHT! This ruling is so confusing to me

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:19 PM on 05/26/2009

As a lifelong Californian, I can only shake my head in disgust that it is easier to deny a civil right to any group than it is to pass a f*@#ing budget.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:25 PM on 05/26/2009
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