Can Men and Women Be Friends?

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I have been told that I bear a vague resemblance to Carrie Bradshaw, of Sex and the City fame. Not in appearance, perhaps, but in manner. So now I would like to claim my Carrie Bradshaw moment, and ask the world this well-worn question: Can men and women really be friends? And, to put a slight twist on it, can the man you're dating really be friends with other women?

My boyfriend has a handful of close female friends, and now that we are having a long distance relationship (New York to Germany), these friendships have become both more necessary (I'm not there and he needs a social life) and more painful (who are all these other ladies he's spending all his time with?). I certainly don't begrudge him the friendships, but I can't help the twinge of hurt I get every time he tells me that he went out to dinner with a female friend or recently watched a movie with her (at her house!).

Of course he reassures me that these women are "just friends" and that he's not doing anything wrong. But then I remember that our relationship began while he was dating someone else, and that we, too, were once "just friends". We spent a couple of months doing friendly things, like going out for beers and taking walks, before it became clear that we weren't just friends and shortly afterwards he left his girlfriend and starting dating me. (It's worth mentioning here that he was unhappy in his old relationship and had wanted to break up for a while. Seen in that light, perhaps we never were just friends.)

Since I myself have had many close male friends over the years, I have become somewhat of an expert on this question of male-female friendships - which is exactly why I am so skeptical about it. Like Sally in When Harry Met Sally (the crown jewel of the can-men-and-women-be-friends film genre), I used to believe in platonic friendships. I, like Sally, was disturbed by Harry's suggestion that the sex part always gets in the way. The fact that the movie itself implicitly ends up siding with Harry (since Harry and Sally's friendship turns sexual and eventually leads to marriage) used to ruffle me back when I first saw it as a teenager in the early-90's. In my naivete, I thought it was a nice love story but a sadly cynical statement on the impossibility of real, i.e. non-sexual, friendships between men and women.

Now that I am a wizened 30-something, closer in age and experience to Nora Ephron when she wrote the great screenplay for that film, I have come around. I see now that the sex part is almost always present in some form between heterosexual men and women when they are close. Over the years, I have had too many friendships with men which were charged by sexual tension or which blurred the boundaries between friendship and romance for me to deny this reality any longer. (In fact, even when I first saw When Harry Met Sally I was having friendships like this, but I hadn't admitted it to myself yet.)

But does this mean that all male-female friendships will ultimately be destroyed - or forced to evolve - because of this sexual tension? Or that they necessarily threaten the romantic relationships the friends are in?

I think it is possible in some cases to conquer that sex part, to tame it, or to get it out of your system. For example, I have a few lovely friendships with men I was briefly involved with, but with whom I never got serious. (If it gets serious, the chances for friendship after it ends are much slimmer.) In other words, as far as sex goes, we've been there and done that, so the desire for it no longer infuses the friendship. I also have a couple of male friends who are married, and who I had brief crushes on before making peace with them being off-limits. In these cases, the crush was something I had to work through in order to free myself up to be a real friend to them, and sometimes to their wives.

I also find that when I am in a relationship myself, those hidden longings and crushes on male friends grow dim. Since I started dating my boyfriend a year ago, friendships with other men that were once driven by flirtation and fantasy have settled into peaceful, comfortable relationships in which I can genuinely enjoy the person's company without wanting something more. (I can only speak for myself here, since I am the one whose romantic status has changed. Who knows if they are still harboring longings for me?) It is actually a great relief. As far as male-female friendships are concerned, relationships can be a great liberator.

In other words, when you're in a relationship, friendships with the opposite sex - ideally - simmer down to a low boil instead of cooking over a high flame of sexual possibility. It's better that way because you get to spend time with people you like and even get a little harmless flirtation and male attention thrown in, safe in the knowledge that you are not doing anything to hurt your relationship. The best you can hope for, really, is that your boyfriend is doing the same thing with his female friends.

 
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Sure its possible, especially if there is no physical attraction. You may have other interests in common that don't include the sexual. Just because two people are of the opposite sex doesn't mean they will or want to become physically intimate. This is rather goofy.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:55 PM on 06/06/2008

Hi. Thanks for your comments. I am glad to hear that a few of you don't agree with my basic thesis about the sexual tension that exists between men and women friends. I would actually much rather that be the reality. I only write from experience...

But one point of clarification: I am not arguing that platonic friendships between men and women are impossible! I have many close male friends myself! I am only suggesting that in many cases, something has to be addressed or worked through in order for the friendship to really work. And it also tends to work if the two people are in relationships because then boundaries are clear and you are not seeking validation from the opposite sex.

And, lastly, I should have made the point that of course there are exceptions: those friends you have known for so long that they are like siblings, people you're just not attracted to, etc.

Thanks!
Pam

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:43 PM on 06/08/2008

I have to disagree with this. I have several guy friends, one of them my best friend, and while we may flirt, we both know it's meaningless and just a side effect of our knowing each other for almost ten years. I do love him, he's like a brother to me, and we will never become romantically involved. And we're both straight. I have similar relationships to several other men, and men comprise the majority of my friends. Maybe we're anomalies, but sorry - no sex for us. That would be totally yucky.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:06 PM on 06/06/2008

Hate to agree w you, but I do. I have male 'just friends' but there is always some level of sexual awareness between the two of you. Just nature I guess. But the friendships can give you much if you're willing to deal with it.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:08 PM on 06/06/2008
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Yes. I have male friends and we respect one another's boundaries. No problems.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:02 PM on 06/06/2008
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As a 50-something lady who reached adulthood during the liberating 70s, Back then, I never questioned the idea that men were "people" -- just like us and that a platonic friendships were possible.

But my experience later on told me that usually if one person in the friendship thought the door was ajar even slightly to the idea of the friendship getting intimate, they would crash that door down with no hesitation whatsoever.

My theory is that you can't be in a serious relationship and have friends of the opposite sex with whom you've been intimate in the past. Why? Because your significant other, being so intensely in love with you, could never believe that your "friend" wouldn't want to have you back on the old terms with a slight provocation (and sometimes things can be misinterpreted.)

The other thing that can happen is that when there is trouble in River City, it's logical to assume that the first place your partner would go to air his or her feelings would be to this friend of the opposite sex. And just whose side do you think they'd be on?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:22 PM on 06/05/2008
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