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Church in a Bar: Why Even the Darkest Spaces Can Be Sacred

Posted: 05/17/11 02:22 PM ET

When I announced that I was going to do a church plant in a blues bar in the heart of downtown Fort Worth, Texas, I obviously received some mixed feedback. My favorite negative one surprisingly came from a heavily tattooed pastor who identifies as an Outlaw Preacher. They asked if this means that I was lowering my standards in order to reach a targeted demographic, or if it meant I had loose morals and condoned sin. I remember laughing and asking them if those were my only two options. They said they couldn't possibly think of another.

At the same time, my family, which is by all means more conservative than I am, didn't even blink an eye at the announcement. They said they were proud of me and that Jesus ate and drank with all kinds of "bad people" in "questionable spaces" in order to be a light to them. I guess they consider church in a bar means that what I am doing is either evangelism or some act of charity.

So now we have more options: I'm lowering standards for numbers. I condone sin. I'm evangelizing these poor souls. Or, finally, that I am gracing these poor lost souls with my presence in some act of compassion. Personally, I don't like any of these.

All of these mentalities derive from some notion that there is such a thing as a sacred space where God is, and a dark space where God is not. All of these mentalities derive from some notion that there is such a thing as a child of Light vs. a child of nothing but dark.

If you were to ask a fish what water was they would probably not even know what you were talking about. Water is simply everywhere; it is that in which they live and move and have their being.

Let's assume that one day the fish does experience "water" somewhere -- in that they become aware of the presence of water somehow. Maybe they found a particularly fresh source, strong current or peaceful place and they decide that this spot is a sacred space: this, they decided, is where water is. And this dualistic thinking automatically creates spaces where water is not.

We may laugh at this, but aren't we guilty of the same thing? We live and breathe inside of a God who we say is everywhere, but then act as though there are places in which God is or is not. Do you really think that bar or that porn shop somehow managed to carve a little void out of God? Or, that there are spaces of light and dark within Him? That there are spaces in which God is not?

No, what I propose is something completely different. I propose that there is no such thing as a sacred space and that everywhere is a sacred space. I propose that the nature "church" is completely different than anything we ever imagined.

Now as far as the other misconception, where I (or we) are light entering into the dark, I would also have to point out that this is nothing more than an error in our thinking. If we read that the "light shines in the darkness, but the darkness has not understood it" then that would imply that the dark cannot understand and will have no appreciation for the light. But this is not what we see in Christ's interactions with drunkards, scoundrels and prostitutes in the Bible -- they cling to him and want to be around him.

There had to be some light, some divine spark, inside of these people in order for them to recognize light and appreciate it instead of disdain it.

In the same way, these people today when I enter the pubs, bars and tattoo parlors around me comprehend and appreciate the moments we spend together -- it means a lot to me as well. I don't feel as though I'm some light in the darkness. No, what I feel is my light interacting with and acknowledging their own. What I feel is community and not evangelism. I feel as though I am interacting with other children of God and not outsiders.

In fact, not only are these people coming voluntarily to church in a bar, but they were the ones who asked for one to be started in the first place. It is taking place upon their invitation. Now how in the world can we say there is no light in them or this space after that?

Furthermore, if we truly believe the theology of the Divine Indwelling where "I (Christ is) in them (us) and You (God) in me (Christ)" then how is there any space in which you enter where the presence of Christ is not? Why do we even look upwards or to an outside force when we pray instead of within? And why do we look to a temple or building when we are the temple today?

In closing, let me state that intent is everything. It is the agent that can change something from being secular to sacred in an instant. The Roman Catholic Catechism, when discussing sacred spaces or holy objects, states that "There is scarcely any proper use of material things which cannot be directed toward the sanctification of men and the praise of God" and become a new sacrament.

Holy Water is holy because it was set apart for either the sanctification of man or to bring glory to God -- without that it's just water. Prayer without intent is just words hanging in the air; the most eloquent being nothing compared to the stammering, sloppy prayer of a humble and contrite heart. Sacramentals are not limited to the "approved" ones in Church history, but can be anything if we are helping man or bringing glory to God. So too, a bar can become a sacred space, music can become worship and that rock in your pocket can become a sacred object.

 
When I announced that I was going to do a church plant in a blues bar in the heart of downtown Fort Worth, Texas, I obviously received some mixed feedback. My favorite negative one surprisingly came f...
When I announced that I was going to do a church plant in a blues bar in the heart of downtown Fort Worth, Texas, I obviously received some mixed feedback. My favorite negative one surprisingly came f...
 
 
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rsttho557949
What is Job's Crucible?
01:10 PM on 05/21/2011
Church should be a REMINDER to leave the world's nonsense behind. I can'timagine a curch in a bar being taken seriously any more that some heavly tatooed pastor (Levticus 19:28) trying convicne "his congregation" that he was sent from God. People have agendas and often use Chrsitianity to carry out those agendas. While its a novel idea of having a church in a blues bar, it is really a novlety act for a person with an agenda to control to minds of susceptible people. I do see that "chuch" as promoting Jesus; I see that church as a marketing strategy to promote a pastor that is desperate for a congregation.
11:32 AM on 05/20/2011
We were taught that the whole of the earth was sacred.
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anastasiabeaverhousen
Time wounds all heels
07:55 PM on 05/19/2011
A guy walks into a church.......no, wait.
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BurtonDesque
Fear a Blank Planet
10:10 PM on 05/18/2011
Better to have a bar in a church. At least that way the building would be put to a good use.
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almostlyniceguy
Not young enough to know everything..
01:48 AM on 05/22/2011
Yeah... this article is depressing. Is there no place to escape them?
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INDIVIDUALTERRY
no to the collective!
02:02 PM on 05/18/2011
"Whiskey is proof that God loves me and wants me to be happy"
-Terry
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John C OKeefe
pastor, author, questionier
01:11 PM on 05/18/2011
neil - love this - love, love, love this - in "misfits: who are you including" i say that churches develop "moonracers" (from the island of misfit toys) to "send out" to "those people" so they do not have to get involved in people's messy, living life :)

the church always searches for reasons to exclude - when we should be finding ways to include.
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Diana Bitritto
Never be too damn good for your own damn good
12:25 PM on 05/18/2011
Beer is proof that God loves us and wants us to be happy -- Benjamin Franklin
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INDIVIDUALTERRY
no to the collective!
02:02 PM on 05/18/2011
One of my favs!
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Salty too
Give me Liberty or give me death.
06:08 PM on 05/17/2011
Jesus turned over the tables in the temple over $$$. He said his house should be a house of prayer. He also said his house should be sanctified for the purpose of worshiping God. He also said his house should be Holy. Witnessing in a bar is one thing having church in one is quite another.
04:46 PM on 05/17/2011
Dear Pastor Christopher,

I agree with kaltu that this post is confusing. I think that confusion comes from the idea put forward that we find God equally everywhere. (The fish-and-water analogy distracted me...) Although it is true that Jesus Christ upholds and sustains all of creation and that God is omnipresent, it is also true that God's presence can have special manifestation. Consider the pillars of cloud and fire that led the Israelites through the desert, the way God's glory filled Solomon's temple, and the way the Holy Spirit indwells those who follow Jesus Christ. In some way, God has special and significant manifestations of his presence. Not every space is equal.

I think a better way to describe what you see at the blues bar and surrounding businesses is common grace. As creatures made in the image of God we all yearn in varying degrees for the things of God. That the folks at the blues bar, people made in God's image, would be interested in learning more about him is not at all surprising. In fact, I find it exciting!

As kaltu also pointed out, another problem is the "intent is everything" claim. I can't support you on this. Intent is important. It's pretty hard to be successful without being intentional. But having the wrong intent will bring you to the wrong place. The gospel is everything. Make it your intent that the folks at the blues bar hear that.
04:32 PM on 05/17/2011
Excellent. A reminder that many of us are still mired in a corrupt understanding of mission that believes we church folk are always bringing God to others rather than realizing that God is already there.
04:15 PM on 05/17/2011
Way to go Neil!! Great article, can't wait for more!
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LintLass
"When you can balance a tackhammer on your head...
04:03 PM on 05/17/2011
Hrm, that's a lot of talk without considering whether people want to be bothered by proselytizers in pubs. :)
04:44 PM on 05/17/2011
I'd HATE to get witnessed to in a bar. I simply just go to bars to see my friends and their bands play. Sometimes when people find out I'm a pastor they come to me to talk... not the other way around I assure you. :) Peace!
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LintLass
"When you can balance a tackhammer on your head...
07:45 PM on 05/17/2011
Hee, yeah. It's actually a really pretty obnoxious place for people to be 'witnessing' Not such a bad place for clergy to drop in for a pint, though: just listen to people and all. Not too many of the pubgoers are likely to be of *my* religion, but that doesn't always matter.

We should have a pint sometime, there'd be lots of joke potential, 'So, this priestess and a pastor walk into O'Reilly's... :) And of course the game's on... (Need an interfaith baseball joke, here. Working on it. :) )
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INDIVIDUALTERRY
no to the collective!
02:04 PM on 05/18/2011
I assure you pastor , there are far more confessions in a bar than church !
peace be with you!
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almostlyniceguy
Not young enough to know everything..
01:52 AM on 05/22/2011
Ya knocked the tap in the bung, lass. I won't drink or play darts in their church if they won't preach in my pub.
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03:09 PM on 05/17/2011
Wherever two or more are gathered in His name ...
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anastasiabeaverhousen
Time wounds all heels
07:56 PM on 05/19/2011
And when there's a cocktail waitress, there is love.
02:59 PM on 05/17/2011
If I have ever read a better example of 'spiritual' confusion, I will have to force myself to remember. To suggest that "intent is everything" is such an intellectual corruption that it has been almost mythologized an as illusion by the expression, 'the road to hell is paved with good intentions'. Then there is the problem with, "if we truly believe the theology of the Divine Indwelling" for what makes this theology, like all theology suspect is that if an indwelling spirit of God was truly within us, we wouldn't have to waste time on good intentions, as we would know what right action is and have the integrity to act upon it. The divisions of history and religion all confirm that as a humanity, we cannot even come close to agreeing on what sacred is? And as darkness is furthest from the Light, there is nothing sacred there in the absence of God. http://www.energon.org.uk
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Indigo1941
Time traveler.
02:48 PM on 05/17/2011
That sounds right, even holy.