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Dennis DeYoung On The 'Grand Illusion' of Styx

Posted: 07/09/2012 4:14 pm

Long before the rock band Styx broke through in the late 1970s with its showy, theatrical style, and decades before a solo career that still attracts hardcore fans of classics such as "Lady," and "Come Sail Away," there was a boy with an accordion on the south side of Chicago. Seven-year-old Dennis DeYoung heard a neighborhood kid play and, more importantly, saw how impressed his own mother was. Suddenly, young Dennis knew that this thing with bellows and buttons and shiny keys was the ticket to winning his mother's approval.

"She was Italian, and that was the law: if you're an Italian son, you must play the accordion," quipped DeYoung, who often uses humor to punctuate both life lessons and reflections on the grand illusion that is rock and roll. "I have figured out over the years that I was always trying to please my mother. It's been my observation that the most successful, ambitious people in the world are desperately trying to please someone who cannot be pleased."

DeYoung was a founding member of Styx in the 1970s, and rejoined the band for several periods in the 80s and 90s in between solo albums. He legally split with the group in 1999 and now performs with a back-up band as "Dennis DeYoung and the Music of Styx."

Those seven or eight years of accordion lessons not only made his mother happy, they laid the foundation for DeYoung's considerable skills on electronic keyboards and later piano. He insisted that he is still "an accordion player who now plays the piano." As if to prove his point, he moved from the sofa to a white Yamaha grand piano and played the unmistakable opening notes of the Billboard Top Ten hit "Come Sail Away" with finger flickering fast notes known as trills. "See? Accordion players live on trills," he explained.

That someone rated among the top rock keyboardists (and best male vocalists) would think of himself as an accordion player is classic DeYoung. Early on he refused to get caught up in the flash and dazzle and critical hype -- an attitude illustrated in the lyrics he wrote for Styx's 1977 breakout hit "The Grand Illusion." (The album of the same name went triple platinum, and three more followed suit.)

"Welcome to the Grand Illusion, come on in and see what's happening. Pay the price, get your ticket for the show..." DeYoung recited. "But don't be fooled by the radio/The TV or the magazines...Just remember that it's a Grand Illusion/And deep inside we're all the same..."

The big, bombastic sound and the long hair created an illusion to entertain the audience, with talent, to be sure, and a stage presence perfected by years of playing for friends and relatives at wedding receptions and anniversary parties back in the day. But it wasn't real then and it isn't now, he said.

"What I was saying to the audience was, 'It's a grand illusion. We are creating an illusion for your entertainment and possibly edification. We come out here and look larger than life and it's for you,'" DeYoung explained. "That was my statement to say, 'You are looking at me, and you are assigning to me qualities that I don't have. Don't be confused by it.'"

Yet for the better part of DeYoung's 65 years, he's been living around, in and through the grand illusion. I spoke with DeYoung and Suzanne, his wife of 42 years, about his ongoing journey.

Of all the songs you've written and performed, which one is your favorite?

My songs are not my children; people who say that do not have children. (DeYoung has two: a daughter, Carrie Ann, named for the Hollies tune, and a son, Matthew.) I've written in very different genres of music. My music from "The Hunchback of Notre Dame" [which won the Joseph Jefferson Award for best musical in Chicago in 2008] is the greatest music I ever wrote. When I hear the song "Esmeralda" I cry, as if someone else wrote it. It seems disconnected from me in that (A) how did I do that and (B) did I do that?

I would be foolish not to say "Come Sail Away," which meant so much to so many people. We were in the studio listening to the playback and I turned to a friend -- in those days, we were still the guys who were backing up everybody -- and I said, "If that song doesn't do it, nothing can. I can't do better than that."

You've remarked that one's weakness can become one's greatest strength. Will you elaborate?

Everybody sits down with someone else in mind, someone they admire and wish to emulate. But what makes people special and unique is that they can't do it in the same way. Even if you could, they've already done it. So knowing that it can't be done again in the conventional way, people have to figure out how they can do it their way. That's what uniqueness is.

Was there a success secret behind Styx and, later, your solo career?

If there is a secret it's hard work and the ability to get back up after being knocked down. I've lived in the greatest time in history to be a musician. Neither before nor after will so many musicians have the opportunity to have the long and fruitful careers that those from my generation had. Just lucky, I guess.

Being married for 42 years is an accomplishment in any profession. How did you manage it in the music business?

I'm going to let my wife answer that.

Suzanne DeYoung: I fell in love with Dennis immediately, and I still love him very much today. I made a commitment to myself and to Dennis, in front of my family and friends, and in front of God, when we got married to love and to honor -- but not obey, even though I may have said that word -- through thick and thin. It's a commitment, and either you honor it or you don't.

Anything to add to that, Dennis?

I've always liked the way she smells, even before I knew what pheromones were; it's organic, a soul mate.

At the age of 65, you're still performing. What motivates you?

What else am I going to do? I can't fix your car. I can't do an appendectomy. I still have no discernible math skills... The thing I worked hardest at professionally was my band. When it was taken away from me in 1999, I had to reinvent myself in my 50s, which was not an easy task... In life, you've got two choices: Lay down and go to sleep, or get back on your feet and do it. These are not just platitudes. I don't mean to say, "Oh, this will be easy and it will be fun." You'll have dark moments and dark thoughts, and face the compulsion to give up. But you have to figure out how to keep going.

Check out the slideshow below for images and videos of Dennis DeYoung.

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  • Dennis DeYoung Performs Styx Medley On Canadian Idol

    Dennis DeYoung performs his hits "Lady," "Mr. Roboto" and "Come Sail Away" on Canadian Idol.

  • 'Paradise' (Live) (1997)

    Dennis DeYoung performs with Styx on KTLA News, 1997.

  • 'VH1 Big Night For A Cause'

    Dennis DeYoung and his wife attend the VH1 Save The Music Foundation Presents 'VH1 Big Night For A Cause' benefit.

  • 'Fooling Yourself' (Live) (1978)

  • Dennis DeYoung Discusses His Songwriting Process

    Dennis DeYoung, former songwriter singer for the rock group Styx, talks about his songwriting process and how he finds inspiration.

  • 'Show Me The Way' (Live) (1996)

  • VH1 Big In '06 Awards

    Musician Dennis DeYoung performs onstage during the VH1 Big in '06 Awards.

  • VH1 Big In '06 Awards

    Dennis DeYoung performs onstage during the VH1 Big in '06 Awards.

  • 'Come Sail Away' (Live) (1982)

  • 'Blue Collar Man' (Live) (1982)

  • 'Boat On The River' (Live)

  • 'Grand Illusion' (Live)

    Dennis DeYoung performs "Grand Illusion."

  • 'Suite Madame Blue' (Live)

    Dennis DeYoung performs "Suite Madame Blue."

  • Dennis DeYoung Performs 'Come Sail Away' With The Chicago Childrens Choir

 

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Long before the rock band Styx broke through in the late 1970s with its showy, theatrical style, and decades before a solo career that still attracts hardcore fans of classics such as "Lady," and "Com...
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03:58 PM on 07/12/2012
Dennis Deyoung has written some great songs over the years... Styx still has songs playing on the radio 30 years after they were released. Say what you will about him/them, you dont sell 3 million+ albums, 4 times in a row, without doing something right...

They got no help from the critics, who mostly only had bad things to say... They did it with hard work, quality musicianship, and a variety of styles... They could Rock, they could pop, they could ballad... And thier live shows were always a hot ticket...

I've always liked Styx/Dennis from the first time I heard them in the mid 70's... Dennis' unique voice and keys played well on my ears... I guess thats really it... music appreciation is subjective. And in Styx/Dennis' case more often than not they have played well in the ears of millions....
03:32 PM on 07/12/2012
To those dismissing Dennis DeYoung as one of the greatest rock keyboardists/singers, I give you the lists:
http://www.digitaldreamdoor.com/pages/best_keyboard.html
http://www.digitaldreamdoor.com/pages/best_vocalists.html

Furthermore I cannot understand why someone would read an article about an artist that they totally dislike, let alone waste their time to write their thoughts for the world to see.

Dennis wrote a lot of songs that a lot of people liked. He worked hard to make Styx a great band. The intent of his actions was always for this goal, whether others liked it or not. He wanted Styx to succeed. When progressive rock was dying, he worked to make sure that Styx did not die with it. When bands reached a certain level of success, they would make a movie, and Dennis worked to do the same with Styx. (remember, this was pre-MTV). You could argue if the venture was a success or not, but then again you could say the same thing about all of the other bands that made films as well.
Bands don't break up just because of one person or one thing, but a bunch of different things. And everyone argues with someone in the workplace, no matter if you are a janitor, fast food worker, executive, or rock band.

Very nice article and interview, Patricia.
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04:14 PM on 07/12/2012
Thanks, Ron: I don't want to wade into the discussion of musical likes and dislikes. We all have our opinions and our right to them.

What struck me in Dennis' comments was his observation about reinvention, which provides perspective for all of us - especially at mid-life:

"In life, you've got two choices: Lay down and go to sleep, or get back on your feet and do it. These are not just platitudes. I don't mean to say, "Oh, this will be easy and it will be fun." You'll have dark moments and dark thoughts, and face the compulsion to give up. But you have to figure out how to keep going."

As a writer, those words really spoke to me.

Thanks for the thoughts, everybody.
04:15 PM on 07/12/2012
I was wondering the same thing Ron
"Furthermore I cannot understand why someone would read an article about an artist that they totally dislike, let alone waste their time to write their thoughts for the world to see."

Dennis DeYoung did and still has a awesome voice.
12:29 PM on 07/12/2012
I have always been a STYX fan and have loved the vocals of Dennis DeYoung! Not sure where the bashing needs to come from??!! He has done amazing things with and since his involvement with the band. I have seen and heard him many times over the past few years and I am blown away at how incredible he sounds and how great he continues to perform at his shows! His Hunchback of Notre Dame musical is one of my absolute favorite CDs!! His time with STYX was wonderful but in my opinion he is doing AMAZING on his own!!
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12:04 PM on 07/12/2012
Honestly...I cannot believe what I am reading!! Let's get a few things straight...STYX was the FIRST band EVER to achieve 4 consecutive multi-platinum albums in a row - NOT the Beatles, not the Rolling Stones, but STYX - so there must have been a few (MILLION) fans who loved their music. And guess what?? Dennis DeYoung was a HUGE part of why that happened!! The band won 1 People's Choice Award, for Babe - a Dennis DeYoung song...clearly people somewhere loved it enough to vote it as their favorite. Dennis had a Top 10 hit with his solo hit Desert Moon...an achievement no other solo STYX artist can claim. DeYoung's Hunchback of Notre Dame won the Jeff Award for Best Musical. These are FACTS...I understand people have different taste in music and I respect that. I beg to differ with those who do not believe Dennis DeYoung is an amazing singer/songwriter/keyboard player...especially when compared to his contemporaries (Kevin Cronin, Lou Gramm, Steve Perry and so many others {I won't even comment on the man who "replaced" him in STYX}...none of these men have maintained their vocal abilities as Dennis has), and I also respect those who do not agree with my opinion. But to post such ridiculous arguments about the merits of Dennis DeYoung's talent is absurd. Facts are facts."
01:44 PM on 07/12/2012
All I can say is AMEN christine23!!!!
04:09 PM on 07/12/2012
Well said Christine !!!
01:06 AM on 07/12/2012
What music in this day and age can you imagine still hearing on the radio in 30 years? Well after decades, Styx music still plays every day all day. People can be snobs and and look down at music that they personally don't like, but that doesn't make it bad music. When I can turn on a radio and in less than an hour hear any number of their songs (mostly written by Dennis by the way), that is music that lasts. Give some credit to some South Side boys that made good. They worked hard, put themselves out there, and sold millions of albums... what did you do? Also, the Styx that I hear all the time ALWAYS has Dennis. When do you hear Styx without him? He was the heart of the band. Go see Styx now, then go see Dennis, you'll see that what Dennis is doing is what Styx always was.
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08:55 PM on 07/10/2012
While DeYoung is good, the current line up of Styx proves they don't need him.
RealistBC
Micro-bios must pass muster.
09:36 PM on 07/10/2012
I saw them before Tommy Shaw joined them and made them big stars with his songs. Styx didn't need DeYoung then, either. Dennis was the only one who didn't see this.
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01:48 AM on 07/11/2012
I was always surprised Shaw didn't have a bigger solo career.
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01:34 PM on 07/14/2012
Tommy Shaw made them big stars with his songs? Interesting...Without DeYoung's Lady and his songs on Equinox like Lorelei and Suite Madame Blue the world would not know Tommy Shaw. The 3 songs that introduced the world to Styx were Lady, Lorelei and Come Sail Away. This in no way means that Tommy Shaw was not a vital member but without DeYoung's songs and voice who would know Styx?
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01:33 PM on 07/12/2012
They may think they don't need him...but they sure need all of the songs he wrote/co-wrote. How many original songs does the "new STYX" perform that were written after Dennis left???
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Micro-bios must pass muster.
08:27 PM on 07/10/2012
My band opened for Styx one night at the Gap off Rush Street in Chicago. I was amazed at how DeYoung tended to do and say all the things we were told never to do, especially not to be an arrogant AHO toward the place that was paying you to appear. I wasn't surprised that later DeYoung got "separated" from Styx . No one could abide that much egotism!

I later watched Dennis debase himself and hold himself in check while struggling to build a career and change his personality (at least while on stage). I don't wish him ill, for he's put himself through hell long before I would have. I just want him to realize that he wasn't too far from ending up like Terry Kath.
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08:07 PM on 07/10/2012
I graduated in 1982, a surburban boy in Orange County, CA. Styx was the soundtrack to my HS years. I love Styx and was lucky enough to see them 3 times in those years. Also lucky enough to see DDY with the San Diego Sympony a few years back. Bash all you will it brings back nice memories and it great music.
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12:56 PM on 07/10/2012
DeYoung and Styx is was and always will be an embarrassment to the south side. We all used to hang out in just music on 79th and 95th street and put up with his miserable ego. Rated among the top keyboardists in Teen Beat maybe?
12:55 PM on 07/10/2012
OK, so what happened to JY's face?
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11:09 PM on 07/09/2012
Dennis took Styx from an average Rock band to pablum. What crap!
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It's all in a lifetime!
09:17 PM on 07/09/2012
If you haven't heard their songs Light Up, Renegade, Rockin' the Paradise, The Best of Times...you really should. I would love to have had the ability to write and perform these.

I grew up with my father being a big band musician so you know what that sounds like.

Thank you Styx and Dennis DeYoung. We rocked out to your music in high school (class of 79) and I am still "chillin" to it today! READ THE LYRICS for Rockin' the Paradie below...hmmmmm.

Written by dennis deyoung
Lead vocals by dennis deyoung

So whatcha doin’ tonight?
Have you heard that the world’s gone crazy?
Young americans listen when I say there’s people puttin’ us down
I know they’re sayin’ that we’ve gone lazy
To tell you the truth we’ve all seen better days
Don’t need no fast buck lame duck profits for fun
Quick trick plans, take the money and run
We need long term, slow burn, getting it done
And some straight talking, hard working son of a gun.
Whatcha doin’ tonight, I got faith in our generation
Let’s stick together and futurize our attitudes
I ain’t lookin’ to fight, but I know with determination
We can challenge the schemers who cheat all the rules
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10:13 AM on 07/10/2012
Ugh.
I realize that it's all just a matter of opinion, but in my opinion, those are just dreadful lyrics. Stilted, formulaic and sophomoric.
Sometimes it doesn't matter. They take you back to a great time in you life and act as the trigger for all of those wonderful memories. I am not trying to deny that, I only object to the wildl assumptions made by this article that - within the general population of the music business (at least in my experience) - just aren't true.
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03:33 PM on 07/10/2012
liveinhope23:  It's all relevant. I am not in the music business anymore.  I was a vocalist (and can sight read)  and I do have one song published and copyrighted. Wild assumptions that aren't true? Styx was well received. The lyrics/music were for that time...they brought on a feeling.  There were jobs, $5.00 filled my VW Bug and just like the lyrics from the 60's and 50's speak of those periods of time. There are some stilted lyrics back then and......even today. DeYoung appears to be authentic, I don't know him but I liked what he said." Early on he refused to get caught up in the flash and dazzle and critical hype. The big, bombastic sound and the long hair created an illusion to entertain the audience.."But it wasn't real then and it isn't now, he said."   The concerts of Styx, Journey, Boston, Van Halen...(SMH) TOO much fun!! It is an education in itself to listen to music/lyrics from other periods of time. I call it "music history" when I have my daughters, 16 and 10 listen to earlier music.:) Thank you Youtube! I've heard it said that music feeds the soul. From Harry Connick Jr., Madonna, Bruno Mars, Garth Brooks, Frank Sinatra, Hedley.... to Styx. :)   
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07:30 PM on 07/09/2012
"That someone rated among the top rock keyboardists (and best male vocalists)...."

You can't be serious. When the subject of top rock keyboardists of that era arises, names that come up are Keith Emerson, Rick Wakeman, Brian Auger, Patrick Moraz, Rod Argent and a host of others - I've never heard Dennis DeYoung's name come up - ever. As far as "best male vocalists" the list that he isn't on is just far too long to go into.
My opinion:
Styx rode the progressive wave on the coattails of truly innovative bands like Yes and the Moody Blues. Originally, their songs were predictable, over-blown arrangements with high school level lyrics that aspired to be philosophical and mystical, but were naive and juvenile in execution. Following this period, they descended into simpering, insipid ballads like "Babe". They were extraordinarily lucky to have succeeded to the degree that they did. I was playing in the New York area during their heyday, and I can name at least 10 area bands that were superior in terms of musicianship, presentation and writing skills.
Example: The Good Rats would have blown them off the stage.

Everyone is entitled to their opinion and any musician that succeeds deserves some measure of respect merely for having beaten such long odds. But the kind of hyperbole contained in this article is ridiculous. It appears to have been written by his press agent.
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08:44 PM on 07/09/2012
I agree. To call him one of the greatest rock keyboardists is absolutely absurd. Same thing with vocalist. He wrote and sang some OK songs but Styx is the perfect example of late 70's early 80's bland, corporate rock
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george martini
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10:25 PM on 07/09/2012
The Good Rats.. I saw them many times. I remember David Johansen was playing down the street and my friend kept telling Peppi Marchello that David had said something nasty about him. Then Peppi would tell us to go back to David and call him something just as bad.
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liveinhope23
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10:05 AM on 07/10/2012
My band played on the same bill with the Good Rats a few times and I knew John Gatto quite well. Peppi Marchello was a great rock singer and writer, everyone in the band was a strong player and to this day, I believe Joe (Braccioalla (sp?)) Franco to be one of the best drummers I have ever seen play - including Bonham, Bruford and a host of other impressive names. He was (and presumably, still is) just an excellent musician. Strong, tight arrangements with great harmonies. They should have made it much bigger than they did.