An Interview With Nick Reding, Author of Methland

In 1999, as a journalist for magazines like Outside and Harper's, Nick Reding noticed that crystal methamphetamine was becoming part of everyday life across America. He saw the problem in small towns everywhere, acutely understood by locals, ignored nationally. The more Reding looked, the more he saw, saying, "I began to get the feeling that the drug was somehow following me around." Out of a decade of research, an all-encompassing examination of the how the epidemic came to be and who shares the blame, came Methland.

It's the story of Oelwein Iowa, a rural town with a population of 6,126, dealing with a drug problem. Reding spent four years with a fascinating cast of local characters including trafficker Lori Arnold (Tom's sister); Dr. Clay Hallberg, the town physician with sobriety issues of his own; Major, a former member of an Aryan Nation gang trying to stay clean and raise his young son; and Larry Murphy, the mayor hellbent on bringing in industry and Main Street revitalization.

Oelwein is a microcosm of small towns everywhere, but Methland shows that the drug abuse is a symptom -- not the cause -- of the deeply ingrained problems facing rural America. Reding connects the dots between the growth of the meth epidemic and the economic realities brought about through the combination of Big Ag, Big Pharma, globalization, illegal immigration, and the low-paying no-benefit scraps left behind.

At times harrowing, at times infuriating, Methland is an elegy, not a eulogy. The book shows that dedicated citizens can have a positive impact in the face of monumental obstacles. Make no mistake though, the local humanity in Oelwein flies in the face of the almighty global dollar.

Methland has gotten great reviews from outlets big and small, although not without some local controversy, of course. Reding and I had a long rambling conversation that touched on a number of subjects including: why meth is the most American drug, the politics of Big Ag on a little town, the role Wild Turkey played in the writing process, where the hint of amphetamine in your arugula comes from, the reason he didn't go the Hunter S. Thompson route, and why Frank Rich needs to get out of the city.

What was the general idea behind Methland and how did you decide upon the setting?

Reding: The book is four years in the life of the small town of Oelwein Iowa, which has a pretty bad meth problem. It follows people like the prosecutor, the town doctor, the mayor and an addict. It's not entirely a book about methamphetamine, it's about a town that puts itself back together and ends up much better off than it was. I didn't pick Oelwein because it has the worst meth problem in the world. I chose it because when I called Dr. Clay Hallberg, we hit it off. Basically, he and others in Oelwein agreed to let me hang around.

Was your family's connection to Iowa important, or could it have been a small town in Montana, California, etc.

Reding: Methland could've been written about most small towns in most states. I had to find one where the people would accept me. In terms of my family connection, it was coincidental, but it became more important as time went on. My Dad was raised in rural Iowa and worked for Monsanto for forty-two years. I tried to humanize everyone in the book, including addicts and traffickers, but I couldn't find a face for a lot of what I was blaming for the meth problem, which is big agriculture. Low and behold, it does have a human face right here in my own family.

Did you know when you set out to write Methland that it would be a book about how small-town life in America is lived now and not just a book about the drug itself?

Reding: From the beginning, my intention was always to tell the story of a small town with a meth problem, not the meth problem in a small town. I've always thought the story was about Oelwein as opposed to the drug. Meth is nothing more than a lens in which to view the economic, political and cultural realities of the rural United States.

In the book, you quote former Harvard sociologist Patricia Case as saying meth is "the most American drug." What did she mean by that?

Reding: Case's argument, which I agree with, is that because historically, meth has been the drug of the working class, it fits the American ideals best. It exists in this perfect one-to-one ratio with the American mania for work. Meth helps people to work harder because they don't have to eat, sleep or hydrate. Alcohol makes you drool all over yourself and pass out, coke you have do another line every twenty minutes, but with meth you stay high and focused for a long time.

If meth is part of the American DNA, is it possible to eliminate the problem?

Reding: It's too easy to say "people are going to do it no matter what," or even simply "it's their fault." We need to minimize the reasons why people start using meth. What's the proportion of people who start selling and using meth because of economic realities? The more people are given a reason to feel shitty and do meth, the more people will do it.

Did the meth users form a separate society from other Oelwein townspeople or were they intertwined?

Reding: Some people in town would maintain that they didn't know what I was talking about. While over their shoulder, a dude is trembling in his trench coat in the middle of summer as he's picking through the trash. Meth was in all the bars, and there's a lot of drinking in the Midwest, so there was crossover. This is anecdotal, but almost everyone I talked to, whether they wanted to deny the meth thing, knew somebody in jail, be it a family member, a neighbor, or whatever. Forget the indirect effects of meth. It seemed like the drug directly affected a disproportionate percentage of Oelwein's population.

Was it hard to spend four years around hardcore meth users who kept on using? Or tried to quit and failed?

Reding: A lot of it was depressing. I kind of dreaded going to some of the houses over and over again. The one thing that mitigated against that was I liked the vast majority of people and we had some enjoyable times. There were a couple of people I wasn't fond of, but I tried to keep that out of the book.

Were some of the frustrations you must've felt lessened by the positive changes in Oelwein brought on by dedicated local citizens?

Reding: Absolutely. My hopes for the book and the town were in some ways the same. A book about meth addicts would be really boring. As time went on, I was hanging around hoping that things in Oelwein would turn around. And they did. The cool thing was that as the town improved, I had so much more to talk about, like new industry and town refurbishment projects, than the latest number of meth busts. It made for a better story. Ultimately, people need hope.

One aspect you didn't touch on in Methland is the environmental aspect, but I was curious if you knew anything about that...

Reding: To my knowledge there haven't been a lot of studies, but I read recently in the New York Times that the incredible toxicity of an in-home meth lab remains long after it's gone, and new owners subsequently end up getting sick. That's a microcosm, but one thing I did see that's indicative of a global environmental issue is in California's Central Valley where meth-making junk gets dumped in the irrigation canals. It's like the Cuyahoga River when we were kids, if you threw a match it would light on fire. I don't think it's a stretch to think that crap would seep into the groundwater. There could be meth-tainted oranges, lettuce and whatever else.

Speaking of the New York Times, while reading Methland, I saw this quote in Frank Rich's July 11 column and I wanted to get your thoughts on it. Rich was writing about Sarah Palin's resignation, but this passage jumped out at me because ostensibly, he was talking about towns like Oelwein.

"[Palin] stands for a genuine movement: a dwindling white nonurban America that is aflame with grievances and awash in self-pity as the country hurtles into the 21st century and leaves it behind," New York Times 7/11/09

Reding: I think that Frank Rich quote speaks more to a stereotypical and shallow point-of-view about the rural United States. It's true that the towns are shrinking, but "self-pity?" I wonder how many times Rich has been to Oelwein, or any other small town, and Bergen County doesn't count. I'd like to see the evidence of these small town attitudes from a guy who has probably never been there.

Isn't there an undercurrent of white male anger, a sense that outsiders are trying to destroy their way of life?

Reding: The reality is, regardless of skin color or gender, people are trying to destroy small town American life. And they're doing it economically. If that's what people in these communities are angry about, they're right. That's what big agriculture is doing and that's what the pharmaceutical industry is doing. Going back to the Clinton years, there's this notion that globalization is somehow beyond criticism, that it's a pure form of self-sustaining economic perfection. It's not true, and if you'd like to see where it's least true, go to Oelwein.

Is meth a drug that can be kicked?

Reding: There's a big controversy about how well addicts can be treated because not enough research has been done. It's going to take years of study to figure out what meth does to a person over the long haul. The latest research I've read indicates that meth addiction isn't impossible to treat. Meth addiction may end up being no more difficult to treat than alcoholism. Not that it's easy, but it's a lot better than untreatable, right?

What's been the local approach to dealing with arrests related to meth?

Reding: Thanks in large part to one of Methland's main characters, Nathan Lein, Fayette County is going to have drug courts. They are very popular in rural America and go against how most people think of conservative Middle America. Drug courts are the opposite of the "lock 'em up and throw away the key" approach. It's a separate court for people who've been adjudicated for drug offenses, and essentially puts offenders through a 12-18 month probation where they move through four stages. The onus is placed on making them attend meetings, and securing and holding a job. Personally, I'm all for it.

You essentially say in Methland that we should care about towns like Oelwein because it's part of "us " as American citizens. It's a noble idea, but when I lived and worked in the Bronx in the early 1990s, I don't recall the good people of Iowa, or anywhere else in the country, caring about the crack epidemic that was ravaging the inner city. Don't most of us just say, "as long as it's not in my backyard..."

Reding: People don't have to give a shit about it, but the U.S. government does. Representatives and Senators from Iowa should give a shit about it. The government is for all fifty states and not just the coasts. In so far as there have been many political decisions -- which I try to document in the book -- that have favored industries that degrade a place like Oelwein. In a nuts-and-bolts way, a lot of the problems are the obvious and direct result of the intense affair with deregulation starting in the 1980s right through the Bush years. A time period that coincided with the growth of the meth epidemic.

Big agriculture plays a large role in Methland in terms of what happened to Oelwein's economy due to falling wages, immigration, the death of family farms, etc. This has been a recurring theme in other notable books like Fast Food Nation, The Omnivore's Dilemma, and Nobodies. The problems are well known, but can anything be done, or are small towns just going to have to live with it?

Reding: If people, primarily politicians, would talk about it honestly, that would be a beginning. Republicans and Democrats are equally duplicitous when it comes to the Big Ag conundrum. It all comes down to everyone saying, "If we don't have these bad unethical jobs, then we're not going to have any jobs at all." I'm not an economist, but I think that's bullshit. And without trying to change the status quo, it becomes a self-fulfilling prophecy.

One thing that gets bandied about is if a company like Cargill wants to move most of its operations offshore, then heavily tax everything they produce. The idea that they're going to go away unless we allow them to abuse everyone is specious. They're already global companies with operations all over the world. There's precedence for this. Theodore Roosevelt's legend was built busting up trusts, and the main targets were the meatpacking conglomerates.

Did you ever consider going the Hunter S. Thompson route and trying meth?

Reding: I don't like Hunter Thompson's writing, so I think that's the answer right there. There was no way I was going to quit cigarettes while reporting this book. And if Methland had a sponsor, it would have to be Wild Turkey, but no, I never considered meth. People have said to me a thousand times, "How could you write about it without having done it." Did Truman Capote have to murder a family in Kansas to write In Cold Blood?

You include a couple of horrific scenes, like the story of Roland Jarvis, a former meatpacker who lost a lot of his skin, and his nose, in a home lab explosion, but continues smoking meth. Or the story of two users in Ottumwa that involves an enema, pigs-in-a-blanket and bathtubs filled with piles of sculpted human excrement. This is the stuff that book sales are made of. How did you decide what stories to keep and which ones to discard?

Reding: Jarvis is a main character in Methland and he told me that story. There is no way I wasn't going to include it. In terms of the sensationalized part of the book, it's a home run I'm sorry to say. Through most drafts of the book there were no other graphic examples, but near the very end, I decided to include the pigs-in-a-blanket section. That story isn't really about a guy shoving things up his ass, but how authorities have to contend with the effects of the drug. Meth presents a lot of problems that are hard to figure out how to handle.

How are the current economic conditions affecting Oelwein?

Reding: Actually, Oelwein has bucked the national trend by bringing more high-paying manufacturing jobs into town. An outfit came in to one of the old meatpacking plants that's making cancer drugs from sow ears. Talk about making a silk purse... They've added something like 400 good jobs in a town of 6,100. To put that into perspective, twenty years ago, 2000 out of the town's 7,500 people worked in middle-class meatpacking jobs, so Oelwein isn't back up to that level, even proportionately. But given the way the economy is going, I'd say they're rolling sevens right now.

At the same time, Lein told me that they've got enough meth cases in the last six months that he and the other attorneys can't handle it.

What would like to see done nationally to help deal with the meth problem?

Reding: The Combat Meth Act that was passed in 2005 was supposed to be the be-all and end-all. It's a joke. Nothing is federally mandated. It's left up to the states. I think the law should be recast, so it's federally enforced and the pharmaceutical lobby doesn't have free reign to screw it up on a state level. That would be a good start.

Lastly, how do you feel right now about Oelwein's prospects for the future?

Reding: I honestly don't know how to answer that question. I think the turnaround has been remarkable and can serve as an example for other places. Hopefully, Oelwein will keep getting better and better, and not be susceptible to these large-scale forces. However, across rural America, things aren't going to improve on a broad long-term basis just because towns are able to crawl their way out of the meth epidemic. Unfortunately, it's hard to believe anything is going to change because the economic system is faulty and the deck is stacked against rural America. If we don't change the way business is done in small towns like Oelwein, we'll be stuck right where we are, perpetually.

(Photos and promotional materials couresty of Nick Reding.)

Comments

[thebigbike]

SorryFrank R. I like a lot of what you have to say but you are dead wrong about rural folks being "awash in self pity". They are just trying to get by in a game where the deck is stacked against them from the 1st deal by big ag - which IS awash in self-pity. And knows how to game the system outside the rural areas to make it work for them. And big ag, along with big box stores and big fast food, and outsourcing and oveseasing jobs has pretty much transformed the opportunities for a HUGE number of Americans into a choice of this sh*t pile or that crap stack...... To rual American,s to wqorking people: "YOU don't fit in to our scheme and we aint gonna pay a cent that isnt dragged out of ourt treasuries against our kicking and screaming, to help support making a decent nation for anyone besides our shareholders and especially our officers..... (secret, you think only Goldman Sachs officers are featheirng their own nests?)

[LebronJeremy]

I've lived in Youngstown, Ohio my whole life...look it up, honestly. I had a graduating class of 500 students.
My best friend graduated from Pymatuning valley, class of 72 students. In my class, 3 girls got pregnant before graduation (I'm going somewhere with this so bare with me). In his, however, 14 did because it's an abstinence education only school. Need any more proof of abstinence's effectiveness?
He lives in Youngstown now, but when he goes home, he tells me that the place is backwards. He's the only one who has left the area in his graduating class; they still call the place "pregnant valley" because of the high teen pregnancy rate; and yes, the working class has been devastated by big business.
But my point is this: That area will always remain under-developed because of it's politics. The don't vote for the right representatives and they get left behind.
They don't want to believe in science, so they vote for republicans who argue that "yes a Wal-Mart can set up shop next to the Ma and Pa store front because it's a free market."
I'm not trying to make this political; those are his words; but it makes sense.

[jcandrsn]

I heard this author on an NPR story and had to change the station. I couldn't stand his attempts to romanticize meth heads. Calling it the working man's drug and claiming it "fits the American ideals best." is a joke. I'm from a small town in southern Illinois that had its fair share of meth problems, and I can't say I would describe the users in the area as hard working. And I sure wouldn't consider their toothless, gaunt, sore pocked appearance as fitting any American ideal I'm familiar with.

[Patrick Sauer - Huffpost Blogger]

Read the book. I can assure you the author does not romanticize meth usage. Historically, it was given out to increase productivity, even to soldiers in WW II. I didn't hear the NPR interview, but what Reding told me is meth is an American drug because it aligns with our "mania for work." He has said elsewhere it is "vocational," as opposed to "recreational." The main meth-using character in the book started using to earn extra money at the meatpacking plant and became an addict who nearly burned himself to death. There is nothing romantic in his story, or Methland.

[Hollywooddeed]

I live in a large city and work in the rural towns in the region. I find people to be equally wonderful and disgusting in both rural and urban areas. People are the same everywhere.

[antaeus]

Which truism only underscores Reding's own original criticism that Rich was reserving exceptional scorn for rural America.

The point that corporate interests have helped erode the social and economic underpinnings of rural America, thereby destabilizing its existence, seems a fair one to me. I don't understand the rousing defensiveness I read in some of these comments. I like Rich, but that particular quote is condescending and overly broad.

[Hollywooddeed]

Except that the rural communities many times look towards the big cities, "help us, help us".

[OlongapoEd]

Those sanctimonious people who look down at their noses at anyone who hasn't spent enough (supposedly) time with the Righteous Salt of the Earth are a prime example of the unwarranted moral superiority that has been mentioned here. It is possible to encounter such people. I myself have mentioned one of the ways. Furthermore, they reveal themselves when they say things like "we just don't care what you folks are doing at all." It ought to be painfully obvious that what Sinclair Lewis wrote in the prologue to Main Street still applied to too many parts of the "Heartland".

[antaeus]

Is it fair to compare a depiction of an American "heartland" bourgeoisie from the relatively ascendant turn of the last century with the economically and socially fractured Middle America of today? Is Reding's point that Rich fails to lavish praise on rural America or rather that he was too glib and condescending in his dismissal of their travails?

[OlongapoEd]

Based on my experience with and observation of those from the "Heartland", far too many of them still have the same sort of attitudes described by Sinclair Lewis, regardless of the time differential. Whatever their travails, I see no reason to treat them as the Righteous Salt of the Earth. For all the boohoohoo-ing about "stereotyping", nobody wants to address the obvious unpleasant reality that most people *do not want to live in those areas* for good reasons.

[likewisecc]

I said that. I've lived in major cities on the east coast, in the burbs, and in rural America. And, apparently, I rent space in YOUR head, too.

Being content with what one has, where he is, and disinterest in "worldly matters" is not sanctimonious. A basic sense of pride in one's community, its strengths, and its ability to endure through adversity isn't a bad thing. And, it doesn't mean one looks down upon the rest of the world.

Folks out here are different, not better. Perhaps they don't have the experience of living in a large city or a diverse community, and perhaps such an experience would lead to a richer perspective. Point is, though, many in this thread put down the heartland w/o ever taking a moment to understand WHY folks want to maintain these small towns.

You can read all the Sinclair Lewis you want, but a chat with the real Carol Milford might help you understand why she cam home -- and stayed.

[klbrz]

I've always lived in medium to large size cities, but for the last 3 years, I lived in rural NE KS (not nearly as rural as most of the rest of KS), and was truly alarmed to see the frequent bankruptcies, closed shops and generally dwindling population (though no more alarmed and saddened than I have been at the same sort of thing happening for the last few decades to many cities like Detroit). The difference is that, to me, we have been aware of what was happening to the cities for a long time; I had no idea things were so bad in the rural areas. With even just our food supply and the distribution systems of goods going to stores from coast to coast at stake, we should take more of an interest in what's going on in these areas.

[Patrick Sauer - Huffpost Blogger]

This is going to sound awfully simplistic, but as someone who was raised in Montana and now lives in New York City (and has written stories about people from places both big and small), I've always found people are more or less the same. Myopic jerks are easy to find if you look for them, but I've found in my travels Americans tend to be easy to get along with. This painting with a broad-brush about the greatness/awfulness of different regions across the country gets tiresome.

[klbrz]

Thanks for the article. And I don't think you sound too simplistic. People are basically easy to get along with wherever you are - when you're there. But, I do think the rural/urban divide is as strong as ever and cultivated on both sides - seeing each as "the other" keeps understanding from happening.

[jenaimarre]

Patrick, you are so right. There is nothing inherently "wrong" with the peole of any region of the US.

[DKAnise365]

As an AA who came of age during the 80s and attended college in the same urban environment, I will tell you, the characterization of my people was down right demonic and inhuman. People were struggling to eat and to keep shelter over their heads. Human beings do alot of things to escape, even for a moment, a situation that appears hopeless and without resources.

The interesting thing about this article is how selective the author was about what he included in the book. He spoke of leaving out the unpleasant experiences he had with addicts. I find that to be a bit "revisionist". In addition, he never asked the comparative question. He dodged it with some self-righteous pseudo assessment of what people really care about. Disingenuous, indeed.

The pure and embedded racism that would flood the evening news depicting anyone of African descent as a potential addict or user was rampant. Today, this problem is shaped as an "American" drug and could be as common as drinking a beer. Such imbalanced and truly swallow definitions is what is truly destroying the world that many "ignorant" and yes racist and passively conditioned whites are struggling to deal with.

This country was built on the backs of enslaved Africans who stood in the blood of slaughtered First Nation.

What did First Nation and African people do to Europeans in the first place, to justify such action? I don't recall any invasions by these nations on European soil?

[noudidnt]

Excellent analysis.

[larry278]

Methland could have been adapted as a study of why some youngsters leave fly over country to get a higher education & never come back. Rural or urban areas in fly over country have few or no economic opportunities when compared to the east or west coasts. Teachers get paid better in NYC's suburbs or NYC then teachers get paid in fly over country where the population is dropping as rapidly as tax revenues are dropping. The same thing goes for nursing. How many microbiologists or physical therapists are employed in Methland? Agribusiness doesn't need highly skilled employees to reside at the sites of its mega farms. Unless you enjoy high school sports, local church activity & other small town passtimes, there isn't much to do except take care of your house & use the www. It's an exhausting, long journey to see MLB, NFL, ABA or NHL teams playing. If the state's university doesn't have an outstanding football or basketball team, learn to enjoy 2d or 3d tier local teams.
Let's not discuss law enforcment in fly over country. It's a challenge to deal with drug related crimes any where.

[larry278]

Typo: change then between NYC & teachers to than. Thinking about fly over country is disgusting. I have to make great efforts to purge memories & thoughts of fly over country. Fly over country is a unique, frightening, region. If you get out you don't want to even think of fly over country & visit there-you must be joking. It would be cruel & unusual punishment to send detainees from Gitmo to fly over country. Freed former detainees formerly held at Gitmo or the USA's other secret prisons would flee fly over country, God's forsaken country.
You could say that I dislike fly over country--if you want to really understate my feelings about fly over country.
It's 10 to 1 that Pres Obama won't go back to Il, the air hub for America's rim, fly over country.

[noaxe397]

I'm glad the interviewer brought up the point about people in Iowa not having sympathy for crack users in the Bronx.

People who live in the so called "heartland" of America (mostly white, rural) have always thought they were morally superior to the decadent savages that lived in big cities, especially on the coasts with their liberal, lascivious and licentious ways.
"why can't 'those people' just stop having babies to get more welfare, and get a job, and clean themselves up and pull themselves up by their boot straps."

The same way heartland America and its politicians wrote off big cities and urban policy as social and economic failures and a waste of taxpayer money, so too must we realize that much of white, rural America is likewise so blighted it is not worth saving.

There's a reason states like KS, OK, NE, SD, ND have as many frontier counties today as they did 100 years ago (pop density of less than 6 per sq. mile.) That way of life is inconsistent with human needs and behaviors and no one wants to live there, so they move as soon as they can.

[OlongapoEd]

One of the ways those people "move as soon as they can" is to join the military, where they can give free rein to their unwarranted sense of moral superiority. I encountered way too many of those people when was in the military.

[noaxe397]

Thanks for the comments, guys, but you will notice my list of states did not include Iowa.
And the people that get out and head for the big cities tend to be young people looking for a better life, not more established folk who, for whatever reason, chose to remain. I was not clear on that point.

I am clear on the sense of moral superiority and hyper judgementalism that comes from that whole part of the country. I'm an ex NYer whose lived in AZ for twentry years, and yet when I meet heartland types here in AZ and they detect vestiges of my NY accent you can see that look in their eye.

I'd like me less because I've lived in AZ for 20 years!!

[likewisecc]

NY to AZ. Haven't spent a week with folks in IA, KS, OK, NE, SD, or ND that stay and work to keep these small communities alive, though, have you?

Don't retract. Just stand by your ignorance with pride. It suits you better.

[jenaimarre]

Your parochialism is astounding. You are insisting that midwesterners are of one mind. You have fallen victim to a kind of stereotyping that people of good will in all corners of the world work hard to avoid. This is an unfortunate surrender on your part. Nothing good can come of smearing all the residents of a certain part of the world, of which you probably have little or no direct experience. Read the book. You will see how a person who is trying to be fair and objective to all parties operates. Few would agree with your gneralizations about "human needs." Try to have some humanity yourself.

[noaxe397]

The reason people are so touchy about stereotypes is that, in order for a stereotype to get started there must be a bit of truth in it.

No one, except maybe people from Los Angeles, are streotyped more than New Yorkers. You betcha' In fact, I'll bet you're rolling your non-judgemental eyes right now.

[jsgaetano]

I've always felt a certain bit of schadenfreude on this issue after listening to the far right spew their self-righteous racist hatred at "crackheads from the inner city" back in the '80s.

As it turned out, those same people wallowing in hate back in the '80s became even worse than crackheads in the '90s.

As they said back in the '80s, God has a plan for everybody... even if it's to serve as an example to other people.

[HekmabaJuzimax]

Dearest Mr or Mrs jsgaetano:

You have an outstanding loan word balance for the word "schadenfreude". Please remit the amount below to the German government in order to clear your record. If you do not comply, we will be forced to contact a collection agency to resolve this matter.

There's nothing else here; however, there are more interesting posts below.

[yellowdoggie]

Good interview! Now I want to read the book. Thanks.

[TJCole]

That's only because Frank is educated...!

[thebirdstheword]

i've lived in small towns in the midwest for many years, and frank rich is 100% right.

sociologists who claim special knowledge of rural or blue collar America, have always bugged me.

[TJCole]

Cheap beer in cans is a gateway drug, it's often when drunk disgustingly drunk many make these bad decisions and try Meth...