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Relativist Parenting

Posted: 11/30/2011 7:46 am

We spend a lot of time as parents (and an awful lot of time on parenting websites) exploring what kind of parents we want to be. The tendency to name "schools" of parenting is new to this generation. Our mothers were just mothers, not Attachment Mothers, or Free-Range Mothers, and, as we discussed yesterday, the name-your-parenting-after-an-animal trend is only about a year old (and, I would politely suggest, has run its course...)

I have been alternately amused and frustrated by this need we seem to have to give our philosophy a label -- or even to have a distinct philosophy at all. The closest I come to a belief system of my own is borrowed from a friend, Donnica Moore, who sums up parenting as: It All Depends On Everything.

Two essays on Huffington Parents today throw out the idea of "one way" or even a "semi-consistent way" and offer up -- actually CELEBRATE -- a view of parenting that is closest to Moore's.

Devon Corneal describes it here as "Sure of Nothing Parenting." She nails it (as usual).

And Patty Onderko calls it "Relativist Parenting." Her essay is below.

Whatever you call it (because, after all, names can change, and everything is relative...) these two women sum up the on-the-fly, never-the-same-river-twice, doing-the-best-you-can feeling of this thing we do -- whatever it is called -- that differs from child to child, day to day, and moment to moment. -- Lisa Belkin, Parentlode

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I could be the worst parent in the history of the world. Or I could be the best. It's all relative. And that's my problem. Being a relativist and being a parent are hard ways of life to reconcile. Most likely, I'm a middle-of-the-road parent, but what's the middle of the road when it's relative to the relative best and the relative worst?

An example: I was crossing the actual (not proverbial) road with my 4-year-old twin boys the other morning when a turning car began honking at us. Here's a secret: I've long ago stopped forcing one of my sons to hold my hand while crossing streets. He rebelled so forcefully that our struggle actually put us at greater risk in the middle of the crosswalk. So I relented, and instead stood right next to him against oncoming traffic until we were safely to the other side. But the woman driving this car made it clear that I had made the wrong decision. She rolled down her window and screamed, "Hold his hand!!!" at me as she pointed emphatically to my unattached son. I was angry and defensive at the time, but later: Am I pansy parent who can't even uphold the supposed "non-negotiable" rules of childcare? Or am I a sensitive mom who wisely knows how to pick her battles? Honestly, I could go either way on that one. I flip-flop as of writing this.

Another example: I tell my other son (the one who does hold my hand crossing the street) one evening that it's time to put down the iPad. He whines convincingly and tells me that he's not done with his game yet and why does he have to turn it off now? I don't know really, I think. I don't want him to have too much of the notorious "screen time," but at the same time, I wonder, "Who am I? He's only been playing Angry Birds for 20 minutes and while 20 minutes is a lot more than, say, five, it's also a lot less than 60." Still, I enforce the power down, since I'm supposed to be consistent. But did I lose his trust as a reasonable parent who values his independent thinking? Again I think, "Who am I?"

I know, I'm his parent. And I need to step up and set boundaries. Kids feel more secure when there are rules and guidelines. Or do they? Isn't it relative to the child, the rules, and the person enforcing them? My kids seem to be relatively secure in their lives. But who am I to judge? My sense of comfortable and secure could be wildly different from theirs.

This second-guessing makes parenting, as you can see, a daily guessing game. One twin seems ready for a talk about the birds and the bees, but the other seems -- relative to his brother -- not. But how do I know if the first twin is really ready for the discussion, relative to his peers? It's a twisted rabbit hole of right and wrong, sensible and foolish, kind and cruel.

Where do I find my bearings, my parenting absolutes when I kinda, I'll admit, don't believe in anything for sure? Dr. Bill Sears is smart about nutrition, but I couldn't do attachment parenting with twins. The SuperNanny seems sensible, but that's probably because she doesn't have any kids. The American Academy of Pediatrics is authoritative, but definitely stuffy.

The term "expert" is completely relative. To wit, as a career parenting writer, I've been called an expert.

Do I even need to mention that I'm not sure whether or not I believe in a God?

It would be easy to say that what I believe in, ultimately, is my own love for my kids and my good intentions towards them. But I bet those parents who read To Train Up a Child and switch their infants feel they too have only the best intentions. And, of course, you may love your kids more than I love mine. How would I know?

But if there's one thing I'm sure of, it's that I love my own kids more than anyone else loves them (in the future, when they meet life partners, I'll duke that issue out -- internally, of course -- with their respective choices), save their other mother. And I love them more than I have ever loved anyone before, save their other mother. I know this. And it's this I have to trust. That's where my parenting rabbit hole lands with a happy thud. I love my kids relative to nothing. And I do my relative best.

Sure, that doesn't help me when I'm trying to figure out how to discipline one when he nearly strangles the other for wrecking his block castle (he worked on it for so long!). But still.

You may think, or be enviably certain, that despite my love (doesn't everyone love their children?), I'm a lousy mother.

But who are you? Your opinion is...well, you know.

 
 
 
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ljones1966
Illegitimi non carborundum
08:42 AM on 12/09/2011
Here's a gem of advice I received as a brand new parent.....unfortunately, I forgot the source....

"You are not just raising your children. You are raising the parents of your grandchildren." If that doesn't give you shivers, I don't know what will.

My husband & I are lucky, we agree on core values (that have nothing to do with religion, btw....) and we parent by the seat of our pants, but all decisions revolve around those values.

It's hard and horrible and wonderful and miraculous all in the same moment!
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Jan Baer
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08:11 AM on 12/02/2011
The article and the comments illustrate the struggles we go through as parents, wanting to do the "right" thing--and knowing there is no "right" thing. The amazing thing is that each situation calls for us to do the best we can; that's all we can do. The more we've had a chance to bounce others' ideas off our own experience and convictions, the more we can trust our decisions.
(Re the street: I had to hold my daughter's hand outside until she was past 4--not so with 2 sons. She was fearless. If she wouldn't comply (her choice would have been running in the street), we turned around and went home. Having a support group, in the form of a parent participation preschool program with others as clueless as I was, allowed me to build my confidence)
Twins are a whole different story--they are a team and are very strong. A lot of support is needed--if anyone was shy about setting limits and is raising twins, they have get over their hesitation quickly.
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02:02 PM on 12/01/2011
A few years back studies suggested that women are better multi-taskers man men for evolutionary reasons, although multi-tasking is a misnomer anyway. I take all "studies" with a huge grain of salt these days. Coffee is good for you, no coffee is bad for you; large doses of beta caridine are good for your...not its bad for you....blah blah blah and so on and so on.
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01:24 PM on 12/01/2011
Quite honestly I don't put that much thought into these things, I do what is best for my kids and me and it changes on a daily basis. However, sometimes when I run into someone who is judgmental and thinks it is there business to let their perfect parenting wisdom reign down on me, I get thrown off my game and question what I do. I know I shouldn't take other peoples judgements too seriously, but when you try your best, and someone scolds you because of the snapshot of your situation that they see, it is hard not to get defensive.
12:53 PM on 12/01/2011
When my baby was newborn (she's now in college) I read all the baby books, Penelope Leach, Brazelton, even Spock. I found that they all said different things about the same issues. A fever of fear rose in me for an instant until I realized, even the experts don't agree. It occurred to me that the best I could do was to read their books and then follow my own instincts. Whichever piece of advice resonated with me was what would be the best for our family. It works.
And, btw, I have two very emotional, strong willed girls, and I have had to ignore (or try to) the judgmental stares of strangers, friends, in laws and even my own husband over the years and tell myself that they just don't know what I'm dealing with.
I like your take on all this. I relate.
02:09 PM on 12/01/2011
You make a great point about the "experts" not agreeing, even on basic matters. At the end of the day, all you have are your instincts and the knowledge of what has worked before with your child.

When I used to write for the family/parenting section of a newspaper, I often interviewed a fairly prominent child psychologist in town. He seemed very smart and gave great answers to a wide range of topics. He didn't have any kids of his own, which never really made me pause until I became a father. And then through the years I thought about things he said and I realized that all the advice and expert insight in the world should be taken with a giant grain of salt.

That's not to say that childless people can't give great advice about raising kids. But you have to remember that what works on paper or in theory doesn't always work in real life because there are too many factors influencing you and your children.

You know your kids better than anyone. Trust in that, and don't ever let anyone tell that there is a magical age by which your kids must be off the bottle, or must be reading by, or should learn about the birds and the bees.

Instead of second-guessing everything, parents need to pay attention to their kids and the signals they send out, and do what seems right for them and the entire family.
09:34 AM on 12/01/2011
I don't make my three year year old hold my hand when crossing the street but am writing this when my sixteen year old--the brainiest of brainy--is having a school meltdown & I feel totally like who am I? I didn't make him smart -- so he doesn't have to work hard -- but this also means I never had to push him to work hard -- & now he needs to. I don't know how to effectively push. Or how hard I should try. I think best/worst/middle/perfect/good enough is like the endless question parents ask themselves.
09:30 PM on 12/06/2011
I might be able to help you - I'm a college student, and while in high school, I went through the same thing your teen is going through. I sailed through school, without having to put forth that much effort, because I was so smart. Then, in the IB program, I suddenly faced Calculus. I actually had to try to learn something, I had to study regularly, and push myself. I didn't want to, I got lazy, I had no good studying habits. I saved myself in the nick of time (my senior year) and have been quite successful. What I personally think he should do is set a schedule, with certain hours each week devoted to studying, and for a tutor with the more difficult classes (physics, calc, etc), and stick to it.
It's just really important to develop these habits now, because since he's so smart, the classes he'll take will just get progressively harder. I'm sure you don't want him to sell himself short and not live up to his potential. I know teens don't respond well to pushing, but it's really important. My dad pushed me really hard, and at the time I hated him for it. Now, I'm thankful.
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WilliamL
07:38 AM on 12/01/2011
There is a time and a place when holding a childs hand is appropriate and when they are four and crossing a street, I would consider it inappropriate to not hold their hands. I understand that this mother is attempting to educate their child to the "street" and street smarts most def. an education itself. A four year old has the opportunity to make the wrong decision at the wrong time at a street crossing and it will be there last.

Do you tell them to stand off the corner as far as possible, not hugging the corner so a truck does not catch the curb and take them out with the side of the truck ? Those are the sort of things that I introduce to my children as they get older. Four is too young to drop their hand when crossing the street and do not see it as a reflection of a "good parent" but see it as a parent who is willing to risk their child's life at a street crossing. There is a time and a place to let go of your child's hand and a cross walk at age four is not one of them.
10:20 AM on 12/01/2011
I agree with you - however I think you're missing the point of the article. The point is that she made a decision in the moment based on the information immediately available to her and that it may or may not have been the right one...that we're all guessing each minute as parents, and praying that we guessed right. And I can see her point too - my 3 yr old has fought me so hard in the middle of the crosswalk at times that I think it has caused more danger by delaying our crossing than it would have caused to just let her walk across with me as close to her as possible. And no matter our opinion on the hand-holding, the person who honked at her and admonished her was, imho, way out of line. you parent yours and I'll parent mine. I believe in the whole "village" concept but my village is made up of close friends and family who are inline with my philosophies, not strangers passing on the street.
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WilliamL
11:57 AM on 12/01/2011
As a "rule"-when I approach a crosswalk with both children or even one-my arms go out and both come to me, my hands. It is understood. There is no pulling or any of that. I started it when they were very young and to this day all I do is extend my hands and they are there.
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01:16 PM on 12/01/2011
You missed the point. It has nothing to do with whether YOU think she was a being a good parent or not, and a lot more to do with whether she feels she was being a good parent. It must be nice to be the perfect parent all the time, so you can judge everyone else.
05:31 AM on 12/01/2011
Amen...great post!
12:23 AM on 12/01/2011
I'm a dad and never had any of these second guessing issues. I've always handled things to my best ability - did the things I understood and knew were right. I parented by some very basic principles mostly aimed at what was best for my kids rather than what might make me feel warm and fuzzy or set me up to be validated by others. My wife is the same.
I honestly don't understand all of this weak-kneed, self-doubting, child negotiating, anxiety-filled, analysis of parenthood. Just set some priorities and principles -- preferbly some proven ones -- and go on about the business of being the very best parent you can be. Perfection is the antithesis of parenthood so save yourself a ton of stress by putting such notions out of your mind.

Take comfort in the fact that kids can be surprisingly resilent - you won't ruin them by forcing them to do things they don't want to do or by employing some latitude in giving them some space to grow. Every individual action does not necessarily embue a permanent life long lesson. It's the body of work in the aggregate which counts most. Well, that's my opinion anyway. Good luck to all.
12:12 PM on 12/01/2011
"Take comfort in the fact that kids can be surprising­ly resilent - you won't ruin them by forcing them to do things they don't want to do or by employing some latitude in giving them some space to grow. Every individual action does not necessaril­y embue a permanent life long lesson. It's the body of work in the aggregate which counts most. Well, that's my opinion anyway. Good luck to all. "

well said!
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inmyhumbleopinion
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12:34 PM on 12/02/2011
Thank you. Some common sense in a world filled with too much information. People are way too worried about what other people think or what the "right" way to parent is.
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Carol B Liu
Children's writer wearing a lawyer's hat--for now.
11:01 PM on 11/30/2011
I know that second-guessing game, but now with a bit older kids, who can argue very well (comes from having two lawyer parents I suppose), I tend to not worry about my reasoning or justification. It's not about what's acceptable from the outside looking in; it's as another commenter said, all about the two individuals--parent and kid.

It's a dance. And with all this recent talk of mindfulness and being "present," if you're dancing your heart out with your kid, that's all that matters. Toes get stepped on, you make a horrible move, look stupid, and so? The music doesn't stop. Bust another move and keep dancing.
12:15 PM on 12/01/2011
"It's a dance. And with all this recent talk of mindfulnes­s and being "present," if you're dancing your heart out with your kid, that's all that matters. Toes get stepped on, you make a horrible move, look stupid, and so? The music doesn't stop. Bust another move and keep dancing."

Well said! I'm impressed, two (yours and the one above) great comments about parenting in a row. I'm going to remember this one.."the music doesn't stop" - wow, really, really nice. Thanks :)
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Carol B Liu
Children's writer wearing a lawyer's hat--for now.
12:43 PM on 12/02/2011
Glad you liked it--can't really take credit for the dance metaphor. A great child psychiatrist used all the time, and it has stuck with me! I added the Young M.C. reference. :)
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hawaiianstile
all hail the balance of nature.
10:01 PM on 11/30/2011
i dont know. i kind of see western folk as not fully matured humans themselves. so in my mind its like, well they didnt even get there yet.
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WilliamL
07:29 AM on 12/01/2011
That is a childish thing to say. Western folk not being fully matured humans themselves. Complete non-sense.
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hawaiianstile
all hail the balance of nature.
03:12 PM on 12/01/2011
well im sorry but im just calling it like i see it. not all western folks are but it is true that most are, its simply the way they are made to live. kept in an infant like state of dependance. unable to do so much as feed themselves in most cases.

i recognize humans as just another animal in the world, that being said western folks really are more like creatures in a zoo than fully realized free creatures. living in an artificial environment, generating money for the ones who feed and shelter them.

i realize it sounds insulting, and im sorry for that, but like i said i call it as i see it.
12:17 PM on 12/01/2011
Absolutely pointless remark, perhaps it is you that is unevolved. You might want to read the great posts (Sheerplat and Carol B Luu) above yours. I'm assuming you are not a parent with a comment like that.
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hawaiianstile
all hail the balance of nature.
02:41 AM on 12/02/2011
lol you can call it what you want i was only saying what i think. and i have to disagree. uninvolved, really think about that term. evolution is survival of the fittest, generally the fittest must at least be able to feed and fend for themselves, you cant disagree with that. and because of the way western society is, individuals are indeed unable to feed and fend for themselves. so i have to say i think you don't have much grounds calling me uninvolved.
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BabyParentingCoach
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08:12 PM on 11/30/2011
Parenting can be the ultimate personal growth opportunity, but not many sign up for that version. At any rate, the myriad of choices today in parenting "styles", approaches, and methods sadly do not compensate for the lack of understanding of fundamentals. Over and over in my work as a parenting coach I encounter well-meaning, intelligent, educated folks who did not think through parenting as thoroughly as they would a car purchase, for instance.
The realities of parenting today have the additional factor of our often isolated lifestyles (not that every nearby relative was a support system), and parents largely are "on their own" to figure out what really matters, what they value, how they will implement their values, and how to deal with less than agreement between themselves on important issues.
Seek serious reality training and understanding before you choose to become a parent! You won't regret it.
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04:29 PM on 11/30/2011
I always tell parents that the difference between good discipline and not-so-good (bad!) discipline is the way the parent feels after it has been meted out. It's the same for parenting. That's a great barometer, as, what is good for one just might not be so good for another. There is no one size fits all way of parenting!
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inmyhumbleopinion
Vote third party.
03:15 PM on 11/30/2011
Yikes. This post strikes me as extreme naval-gazing. I am a big believer in (a) throwing out all the parenting books, unless you really have a special case (e.g. learning or behavioral problem), and (b) not listening to the "mommy mafia". Yes, every child is different. And every parent has their own style. But the bottom line is consistency in your values and your meting out of consequences for bad or dangerous behavior. Your standards may be different than mine, but kids need to know what's important to you and their father (which, hopefully, are the same things). When they are old enough to make their own decisions--and pay the bills, I might add-- they can accept or reject your values as they see fit. Until then, you're the boss.
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RaisingGreatMen
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02:13 PM on 11/30/2011
I think if we didn't question our parenting skills or second-guess ourselves, we would miss the opportunities to improve as parents. I agree that there are too many labels now for parents. Why do we care so much about the opinions of others? We flinch when our kids misbehave in public, we worry about what strangers think. Any good parent knows that parents and kids have bad days.