Faced with intractable opposition to his plans for political reform, Charles de Gaulle retired in 1953 to his Colombey estate, wrote his wartime memoirs, maintained his contacts and awaited the crisis he knew would occur because of the inherent weakness of the Fourth Republic.

In 1958 it happened. Charles de Gaulle held a press conference to let the country know he was "at its disposal" and, just 10 days later, his offer was accepted. He won an election, extricated the country from its Algerian morass, forged the beginnings of a united Europe, righted a declining economy and won a referendum on a new Constitution establishing the Fifth Republic that survives to this day.

After a wretched "loss" in 2000 (consider how many different small matters had to go wrong -- the butterfly ballot, the purging of voting rolls and intimidation of black voters, the presence of Ralph Nader on the ballot, a Supreme Court committing the ultimate right wing activism, a decision specifically stating it was not to be precedent, and so on), Al Gore similarly left politics while maintaining his contacts. He wrote two books, won an Emmy Award, the Nobel Peace Prize, and produced an Oscar-winning film from a serious slide show on global warming.

Like Barack Obama, Gore was right about the Iraq War from the start. Although he patriotically kept silent for awhile about Bush being asleep-at-the-switch prior to 9/11 so the country could rally, he eventually called him out about that first instance of gross negligence and incompetence. When he was Vice President, with a broad national security portfolio (unlike Hillary, he actually HAD security clearance!), they caught the millennium terrorist who planned to blow up the LA Airport.

While many urged, pleaded, cajoled and even begged him to enter the 2008 Presidential primary race, he maintained that he was not "good at that stuff" (although none of the events that denied him his rightful victory were of his doing), and decided against it.

As the country blunders to the close of its most disastrous presidency ever, the stars should be aligning not just for a Democratic 2008 election victory, but, more importantly, to usher in another progressive age as the empty rhetoric, false idolatry, cowardly aggression and phony piety that was the culmination of all the right wing dreamed for this country came crashing down on all our heads.

And yet, the stars seem to misalign again. Out of a talented crowded field, two appealing, enormously well-funded candidates have emerged to lead that new progressive era. The electorate appears to be divided 50.1- 49.9, and the anomalies of superdelegates and unseated delegations jumble even that calculation. Regrettably -- that is, to the wide electorate who desperately wants only to turn the page -- neither is likely to desist.

The Clintons scored their comeback by launching a scorched earth strategy, specifically aligning themselves with McCain over Obama. While Obama will probably show his superior character, his inevitable counterattacks -- and, key questions that now must be raised by reporters and superdelegates on her taxes and White House records and Marc Rich, etc. -- are not likely to boost her chances in the fall election either.

The Democratic electorate is split. While 50.1% and 49.9% of the delegates and electorate will find it difficult for their candidate to retire in favor of the other, would it not be true that ~85% or more would enthusiastically embrace Al Gore?

Time for "Al de Gore" to "put himself at the disposal of his country"?


 

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While a DRAFT GORE for 2nd Ballot movement would be the longest of longshots, a DLC candidate like Barack Obama could do a lot worse than selecting him for VP.

One, he's indisputably qualified to be President.
Two, conservatives would want to ensure Obama's physical health.
Three, and this is no small matter, if Obama is the nominee, it will be because the Superdelegates blessed his 51%-49% victory over Hillary Clinton. While some of the Obamaniacs on this board are perfectly willing to piss all over Clinton and her supporters, I hope someone in Team Obama knows better. If even 10% of those who support Hlllary stay home, or vote for a minor-party candidate, or (God forbid) vote for McCain it would be disastrous for his Presidential campaign no matter how many new people he brings into the ballot.

Gore pick as VP would be celebrated by 99% of the party.

Whatever. Get these two DLC-to-the-bone candidates together in a room with Howard Dean and let them figure out which one gets to make token history as the first __________ President.

It's the slimmest of chances, but I'm going to support not giving the nomination to either of them on the first ballot and drafting Gore for a second ballot nomination.

favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 12:14 PM on 03/06/2008

Watching all those campaign dollars go down the drain would be worth an Al Gore nomination all by itself. In a campaign ostensibly all about CHANGE, the one thing that needs most desperately to be changed is barely mentioned by the campaigners-for-change: the buying of the presidency, that's gone on probably longer than most voters - and candidates - have been alive. I don't want a president based on campaign ads; I want a president based on what the country actually needs. And even though Al Gore - and Al Gore alone - provides just about everything the country needs just now, I'm not at all sure he's "electable." We love our politicians to be like celebrities; but we don't mean for them to actually BE celebrities. And the Nobel Prize comes about as close as anything else to being the kiss of death for a politician because it brands its recipient as an intellectual - which is, for most Americans, prima facie evidence of unsuitability for public life. And the thing is, the "Mr. Ozone" would start up all over again - and would still resonate with just enough voters to help defeat a Gore campaign. Besides, we don't get the president we need; we get the president we deserve. God help us.

favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 11:55 AM on 03/06/2008

I could get behind that. As long as no Clinton is on the ticket, I'm good.

favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 11:49 AM on 03/06/2008

While Al is my dream choise,I don't think it'll happen. What I am struck by most is the favorable comments here. On other pregressive blogs(Crooks and Liars,for instance) the vitriol between the two candidates' supporters is huge. Gore is never mentioned. But,alas,as pointed out here a few times,Al really doesn't want the job.A shame because He is exactly what this country desperately needs.

favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 10:29 AM on 03/06/2008

I told all my fellow Goristas last summer to stay tuned and keep the powder dry.
A Gore / Obama ticket would be more than a dream ticket; it would be an 'SPECTACULAR' ticket.
Never give up fellow Goristas!

favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 10:11 AM on 03/06/2008

Much as I'd love to see a President Gore, I don't see the logic here.

After the country has cast its votes for two people who WANT the presidency, the result being near enough equal share to each - what would be the point of drafting someone who doesn't want the presidency ?

These 2 years of campaign all for nothing - all those $$$$$ down the drain?

Surely the answer is for the Democratic party to sort it out in some way acceptable to all, from the candidates who DO want the presidency.

favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 10:00 AM on 03/06/2008

There is far more at stake here than the personal ambitions of these two DLC-to-the-bone candidates. I don't care how much time and energy they've spent already. I do care about the future of the country.

Just because these are the two last standing doesn't mean they are the best ones for the job.

Do what any business does when the advertise for a job and the crop of candidates comes up short. Launch a new search.

Denying either Clinton or Obama a first ballot victory frees up the Democrats to draft whoever they want. That's in the best interests of the party and country whether it is in the best interests of the two remaining candidates or not.

favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 10:27 AM on 03/06/2008

He was my first choice; I'd vote for him in a heartbeat.

favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 09:52 AM on 03/06/2008

The Clintons aligned themselves w/McCain? That's not aligning just because one's view of some subject is the same as your interlocuttor. That's called coincidence--tho' the blogger thinks its sinister them taking the same tact between= the two power elites...what's sinister is fomenting the idea that she (meaning Hill) is not as progressive as Obama. I think she is not unwise, yet perhaps a little rude in this give & take between the campaigners. It's not sinister, like the elitist autonomy the cons presume their knowledge portends, in just how they'd manage our country, for instance. I'd prefer some independent thought rather than this back-room brawl we all expect...some humility: like Obama bowing to more experience if necessary, or Hill taking 2nd in command if these power-brokers (super delegates) see the over-all popular Will implicating that scenario.

favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 09:47 AM on 03/06/2008

I greatly respect Al Gore, but I have come to accept that he lacks an essential element needed to become President, namely, the thirst for power. His work, from drafting the legislation that led to the Internet to educating us about environmental responsibility, illustrates a drive to enlighten others. Certainly that is a trait I would want in a President, but that he does not hunger for power itself kept him from the Presidency. Were he, as Vice President, a power-monger like our current VP, Gore would have muscled his way into office and be President today. Of course, if that was the case, I would probably also respect him as much as I do our current VP.

favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 09:24 AM on 03/06/2008

What you are seeing there is "leadership."

No, "statesmanship."

It is precisely the kind of qualities that are needed in a Chief Executive, that is true. But the people who possess those qualities in abundance find many ways to exercise them both in business and in government. They win the Nobel Peace Prize but often do not win the respect of the power-establishment in their countries. Al Gore has it; so does Jimmy Carter, although the two are not the same sort of men.

As long as a bloodthirsty gang of criminals continue to hold sway in all three Branches of our Government, and continue to "pwn" the press, there's not a great incentive for Mr. Gore to take the cut-in-pay, or perhaps the personal danger, that being President of the United States would now entail.

You had your chance. You gave it away, and this is what you got.

favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 12:09 PM on 03/06/2008

gore as 2nd ballot nominee... yeah, i'd get up earlier

favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 09:04 AM on 03/06/2008

I signed the "draft Gore" petition...I'd LOVE to see him involved somehow, miraculously, at this late date. However, it feels like a pipe dream to me. I doubt he is going to pull a deGaulle anytime soon. But, if you are reading this, Mr. Gore, please consider it!

favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 08:53 AM on 03/06/2008

As an African American woman I would vote for Gore, donate to Gore and volunteer for Gore in an instant. He would have been the most qualified and prepared to be President.

favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 08:40 AM on 03/06/2008

Are you crazy? Gore may garner praise as a non-politician but very few are ready to welcome him back to be the Dem candidate.

favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 08:15 AM on 03/06/2008

jrterrier, please tell us WHY?

favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 10:00 AM on 03/06/2008

Interesting idea, but he doesn't seem interested. I think he see's today's politics as to nasty an enterprise to be of value.(as will Obama if he is slimed out of this thing) Political "handlers" mold and shape our politicians to the point where they seldom resemble their former selves by election day, these aides, whose sole purpose is to win, are the real grease balls! Candidates buy in at their own pace, but most start out to do good, only to look one day into a mirror and realize that they are what they came to stop! I don't think Al bought in. I don't think he wants to! I don't think Barack has bought in yet either, but his temptation has just begun, I am optimistic, but we shall see! Just my take.

favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 03:42 AM on 03/06/2008

And you just totally contradicted yourself? If Barack Obama conceeding in 2000 would have rendered him a bad nominee then why nominate Al Gore now??????

favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 03:33 AM on 03/06/2008

No, the DLC-Gore of 2000 are the "Inconvenient Truth" Gore of now are not the same candidate. Something in him has been freed and liberated.

favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 09:44 AM on 03/06/2008

Holy crap, there's seems to be a lot of support for this.

favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 02:59 AM on 03/06/2008

What a "bon idea" Pierre. Gore as de Gaulle! "Manifique!" (cue the accordion)

I heard Mark Shields state, unoquivacally, that a vice-president may run for a third and fourth term. So, that's an option, too. (unless Marc is being michevious) But, your so right, a combination of the two, Gore/Obama or Obama/Gore has such a powerfull ring to it:

"Out of Iraq, save the planet, and restore our standing in the world."

Now that's a sexy slogan!

I've been favoring Webb as Obama's vice-president, just because he turmps McCain's macho street cred by having a kid in Iraq, and by the "mavrick" mystique he earned when he carried a hand-gun, (nickle plated Colt 45 automatic-standard Army issue) into his office in the Capitol building.) There's something sort of mythical about the event on Capito Hill. (makes Cheney look like a chubby Larry Craig)

But, there is nobody who would unite Democrats after all this Lee Atwater style politics like good old Al de Gore. Nobody I'd rather let step in front of Obama, or, in additon to Webb, behind him.

I still like that gun, though. I'd love knowing the image of that nasty little bull dog was somewhere close to Barack. Plus, he gives a good speech, himself, Webb does. He gives you the impression there's a line somewhere in the middle distance you don't want to cross. Sort of Irish, kinda. (I think he's probably Scotch-Irish... okay, I'm guessing) Ah, hell, we'll go with the topic "du jour": a GUARANTEED lifetime of sixteen years)

(think about it.)

Gore/Obama in '08

favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 02:06 AM on 03/06/2008

Gore as VP? Maybe.

favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 11:05 PM on 03/05/2008

I'd push this option as well. A Gore/Obama ticket would be unstoppable and in some ways very ironic since IMHO it should have been McCain to face Gore in 2000 had it not been for the Bush nasty smear campaign and entrenched family politics against him - sounds familiar?

This eliminates the experience argument, the vote for war argument, the foreign policy argument. A Nobel Prize Winner for President! Plus Gore will not have to build a campaign from scratch - he would have the Obama grass-roots movement behind him.

This would COMPLETELY mess up the Republicans.

favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 10:28 PM on 03/05/2008

Wouldn't it? (heh, heh)

favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 02:25 AM on 03/06/2008

Um.

Hi.

Yeah, um. I hate to say this
but
um

Al Gore's not in the race. And, um, you know, he said he's, um, that um, he's not getting in the race.

And uh, also, you know, there are millions of people who just voted for people OTHER THAN Al Gore?

Um, well, uh, do you play alot of Dungeons and Dragons or something?

There's no Easter Bunny either.

And. Um. Yeah. Um. And also, you remember that guy JOE LIEBERMAN. Um. Yeah, lets take a moment to remember Joe Lieberman.

Also, there's no Santa Claus.

Gore should NEVER have conceded. But he did. And, that's the kind of politics that we don't need any more of.

Go Obama 08. Let's move on. Something new and exciting is calling. Ok?

favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 10:25 PM on 03/05/2008

"Go Obama 08. Let's move on. Something new and exciting is calling. Ok?"

Gee. A slick opportunist, who is DLC-to-the-bone, and gives good speech, is something new and exciting? That's the OLDEST political trick in the book. It's right out of Huey Long's playbook.

I'm a professional actor. I'm not impressed by the ability to give a good speech. I can give a good speech. I know actors who could play Barack Obama in the biopic. What I care about is action.

Barack Obama wasn't even progressive or liberal enough to offer a universal health care plan, even in name, has already promised to give away the store to conservatives in some naive post-partisan poltiical arrangement, and uses right-wing framing of issues like health care and social security.

Gee, a DLC-Democrat who gives a good speech. Sounds like Bill Clinton in 1992 to me.

No thank you.

Bring on the brokered convention and a Gore/Edwards ticket.

favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 01:04 AM on 03/06/2008

Obama would have conceded too.
It was the right thing to do at that point.

favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 11:58 PM on 03/05/2008

If Obama would have conceded, he would have shown why he is not worthy to be the nominee today.

Al Gore should have led national demonstrations all the way to inauguration, rendering George W. Bush's ill-gotten political capital utterly worthless.

I certainly think Obama would have fought for every vote and not just rolled over as the election was being stolen from him.

favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 12:59 AM on 03/06/2008

Al Gore could not motivate young people into the political process. That's new.
Al Gore could not unite people across racial lines. That's new.
Al Gore picked Joe Lieberman as a running mate and estranged the truly liberal wing of the party (who defected to Nader who DID unite the youth vote) losing Gore the election. Barack Obama takes the youth vote and the antiwar vote from Nader. That's new.
If Al Gore could have strung two inspiring words together in 2000 they wouldn't have had to have recounts.
Al Gore did not stand up for disenfranchised black voters in Florida (all 70,000 of them)
I agree that Al Gore has gone through a transformation and is now a very interesting figure. But these are the reasons we have George Bush right now. ANd I don't doubt they would happen all over again.
And you guys are living in a dream world if you think Al Gore is going to have any role in this. It makes absolutely no sense. And there still is no Easter Bunny.

favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 03:31 AM on 03/06/2008

The DLC-Gore of 2000 and the "Inconvenient Truth" Gore of today are not the same candidate.

Obama is far more like the DLC-Gore of 2000.

And, you are wrong if you think the people who wouldn't vote for Gore-2000 will vote for Obama because they are inspired.

Being on the left of the Democratic Party, I know several people who if they didn't vote for Nader and the Greens in 2000, at least considered it as they were living in "safe states". Nearly all of them believe Gore is a different person and candidate today. Nearly all of them see right through the superficiality and style-based DLC candidacy of Barack Obama.

Don't kid yourself that with Barack Obama you are getting anything other than a DLC-candidate who speaks well. Bill Clinton of 1992 generated huge, enthusiastic stadium filled crowds.

Obama is better than McCain, and is arguably better than Hillary on every issue other than health care. However, splitting hairs between these two DLC candidates is counting how many angels who sit on the head of a pin.

Barack Obama gives good speech. Many young people are attracted t his candidacy in the way that I was one of the young people attracted to Gary Hart in 1984. Unlike, those well meaning people attracted to Obama, believing they are getting a "movement" and not just a DLC Candidate who speaks well, I have paid attention to Obama's actual actions. I am holding my nose to vote for him (or Hillary) knowing all that is there is DLC, however shiny and glittery the package.

Romney pretended to have a transformation and many people rightfully saw him as just another opportunistic politician. Gore has had a genuine transformation and whether or not he ran in the primaries, is the right person for the job today.

Support Obama as the lesser of DLC evils or even as the best of what's still in the race. Just don't kid yourself about Obama. All that glistens is not gold.

favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 09:54 AM on 03/06/2008

Maya Angelou said, "When someone SHOWS you who they are, believe them."

Getting beyond Obama's tremendous charisma, look at what he has SHOWN us through his actions after the windy rhetoric of his speeches has blown away:

1) He wasn't even progressive or liberal enough in actuality to proposed a universal health care plan, even in name only;

2) He has already promised to give away the store to the conservatives who have nearly destroyed this country in some (at best) naive post-partisan political arrangement;

3) He uses right-wing framing of issues like social security and health care as illustrated by Paul Krugman (which is why the Obamaniacs on these message boards not liking the truth of the message that Krugman has to say have attempted to use character assassination to try and shut Krugman up).

Barack Obama may be better than Hillary on most issues. He may a more dynamic candidate. He may have star struck crowds who are so desperate to believe in something or someone again they are captivated by this style and rhetoric. He may certainly be better than John McCain.

However, he has already SHOWN me who he will be as President through his actions.

If Obama (or Clinton or Dodd or Biden) really wanted to show me they were different, they would have tried an action like leading a filibuster against Iraq War funding, or at least filibuster against giving Bush ANY blank check. They could have supported Kucinich's attempt to impeach Cheney. But no -- no real risks, no real action, just rhetoric and speeches.

"Yes, we can" only matters if you are actually doing something different. Anyone can shout "Yes, we can" and deliver if all your are delivering through your actions, rather than your speeches, is more of the same DLC garbage we have come to know, but in a shinier package.

Perhaps because I am a professional actor, and I know the tricks to projecting charisma and giving good speeches, I can look past the superficial to the substance. I implore everyone else to do the same, so that at least if you vote for Obama, you will know what you are actually getting as demonstrated by his actions.

However, looking at Al Gore since 2001, there is no mistake in my mind that he is the real deal and he really is what America needs today from their President. His actions during the 2000 election, from picking Lieberman as VP to his post-election wimpery, were weak and pathetic. However, it's not the same Gore in substance.

That is why I will support and work for any Draft Gore movement today.

favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 10:24 AM on 03/06/2008

Double Huzzah!
You've got FAN.

Small quibble, re: "Obama is better than McCain, and is arguably better than Hillary on every issue other than health care."

Given the capriciousness of a number of Obama's comments on a) unilateral military action in Pakistan, and b) supporting the President running point instead of the SecState, I'd give Hillary the nod on those topics as well.

(Are the walls closing in? My screen is 1/3 wasted!)

favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 10:36 AM on 03/06/2008

I would. I would completely, totally, accept Al Gore. That's what I wanted from the beginning.

I don't really know if Gore should ask either Hillary OR Obama to be veep. I'm afraid that would be more divisive than ever. What I would *really* like to see is Gore/Dean, though as DNC Chair that isn't happening. Still, it would be great. Gore could do the hopeful, idealistic presidential thing, and Dean could go ahead and BE the attack dog. It looks fine from a VP candidate.

This would be much better than a Hillary/Obama murder-suicide.

favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 10:19 PM on 03/05/2008

Please, god, please let Gore be the nominee!!!! I am with you johnboogeying.

favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 09:27 PM on 03/05/2008

If Clinton and Obama come out in a tie, there would be a certain logic to both of them withdrawing and endorsing Al Gore for re-election.

Better yet, impeach Bush and Cheney and make Al Gore acting president. (The world could have 9 years of President Gore instead of 8!)

favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 09:13 PM on 03/05/2008