The much-reviled US tax code contains within it thousands of special treatments and exclusions that enable small subclasses of people to enjoy deductions, credits or even exclusions from paying taxes.
There is ample precedent, therefore, for the Congress to define subclasses for special tax treatment.
Congress can find that payments from US taxpayers to financial institutions to prevent bankruptcy in the public interest were not designed to satisfy contractual obligations that would have been abrogated had the company died its natural death. From such a finding, it can, in keeping with precedent defining subclasses for special tax treatment, set a very high tax rate, say 85%, on all income of those who received at least a certain level of income from these institutions.
While they are at it, Congress could also clawback similar categories of income received last year, and even add certain subclasses of people who received huge bonuses in the 3 years leading up to the company's need for taxpayer bailout funds. Those banks that took bailout money at the behest of the Treasury, but would not have become bankrupt had they refused, ought to be excluded.
This is not, nor should it appear to be, a witch hunt. If it were, or appeared to be, the taxes could be viewed as punishment rather than recovery, and thus potentially subject to the prohibition against ex post facto laws in the Constitution. In Calder v Bull, [3 U.S. (3 Dall.) 386, 393 (1798)], the Supreme Court determined that that prohibition applied only to criminal laws.
Clawback from those who caused those institutions to go 'broke back' requiring taxpayer bailout and from those who never would have received any money had their institutions died natural deaths are both legitimate recovery.
And, it is very important. Public support for fixing the financial system is vanishing. The egregious bonuses are a constant reminder of how the wealthy are able to jigger the system to benefit themselves.
To show those days are over, the President and Congress should act through the tax code.
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Barney Frank On AIG: "Maybe It's Time To Fire Some People"
WASHINGTON — Rep. Barney Frank charged Monday that a decision by financially strapped insurance giant AIG to pay millions in executive bonuses amounts to "rewarding...
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White House Adviser: AIG Deserves 'Nobel Prize For Evil'
A top White House economic adviser said in a CNN interview today that the people behind American International Group's financial products division deserve a Nobel...
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Obama Speaks On AIG: "How Do They Justify This Outrage?" (VIDEO)
WASHINGTON - President Barack Obama declared Monday that insurance giant American International Group is in financial straits because of "recklessness and greed" and said he...
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Cuomo To AIG: Give Me Information Or Face Subpoenas, Court
UPDATE 4:28 P.M.: As New York Attorney General Andrew Cuomo's 4 P.M. deadline has not been met, he will be issuing subpoenas. "Four o'clock has...
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Treasury Will Use $30B Infusion To Compel AIG To Repay Bonuses
President Barack Obama, trying to contain a political firestorm, instructed Treasury Secretary Timothy Geithner "pursue every legal avenue" to block $165 million in bonuses to...
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White House May Want AIG Money Back
The Obama administration is looking for ways to recoup at least some of the $165 million American International Group, Inc. paid out in bonuses over...
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Obama Bracing For Bailout Backlash
The Obama administration is increasingly concerned about a populist backlash against banks and Wall Street, worried that anger at financial institutions could also end up...
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Romer: "We're Pursuing Every Legal Means" To Undo AIG Bonuses
A growing bipartisan chorus of lawmakers is condemning insurance giant AIG for deciding to pay out $165 million in bonuses despite receiving $170 billion in...
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AIG Execs Who Ruined Company To Get $165 Million In Bonuses
WASHINGTON — American International Group is giving executives in its most troubled business unit tens of millions of dollars in new bonuses even though it...
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AIG Outrage Dominates Sunday Shows
Republicans and Democrats alike expressed "outrage" with the news that insurance giant AIG had decided to pay out $165 million in bonuses despite receiving $170...
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Take the Steering Wheel out of Geithner's Hands
Tim Geithner's actions throughout his career, including his time as Treasury Secretary, are proof that the toxic thinking that got us into this mess is part of his DNA.
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Come, Shoot the Messengers!
Let's take back some 70 odd bonuses and fail on all sides to see the systemic disease that got us here: short-term thinking and the lunatic need for a profit statement this quarter considerably larger than the last.
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Goldman Sachs, Obama, Money
Have things changed so dramatically that Obama will have room to dump his biggest campaign contributers overboard? That question will be answered in the coming weeks.
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Will Geithner and Summers Succeed in Raiding the FDIC and Fed?
There are countless better ways to accomplish the goal of cleaning the bank balance sheets.
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Christina Romer Gets it Wrong: "We Need Banks to Lend Like Crazy"
"Lending like crazy" is exactly what helped trigger the global financial crisis -- and reflating those trends would be a major mistake if that is what the Obama administration is pushing.
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AIG, Toxic Assets and the Call to Personal Sacrifice
If there has ever been an example of "sow and ye shall reap" gone awry, it is the madcap stripping of the national treasure by those who have brought us to the edge of the cliff.
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Andrew Ross Sorkin Explains
Sorkin argues that if we do not pay $165 million in performance bonuses to executives at the failed insurer, we risk chipping at the very foundations of the rule of law.
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Larry Summers' Ludicrous View On AIG Bonuses
If not for the taxpayer, AIG would be bankrupt, and the folks holding those contracts would be standing at the end of the creditor line.
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Obama Administration Must Stop Bonuses to AIG Ponzi Schemers
As any working lawyer will tell you, contracts are legally abrogated every day -- a big part of our court system is given over to litigating disputes over the enforceability of various commercial contract provisions.
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Financial Journalists Fail Upward
If the world of financial infotainment can itself be described as a "market," it is a market where accountability does not seem to exist.
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AIG Apologists, Let's See You In Court
Make the AIG apologists who claim entitlement sue for their "contractual" bonuses -- and televise those hearings so we can all know just exactly what the AIG apologists think they did to earn public bonuses.
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In New Terror Video, AIG Demands Huge Ransom from U.S.
In the four-minute tape, a man believed to be the chairman of AIG says that if his organization is not paid its ransom, "chaos and destruction will rain down on the American economy."
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Tim Geithner Needs To Answer For AIG
Americans will justifiably ask who got us into this mess. The answer, in part, is the same man who has yet to come up with a coherent plan to get us out of it:
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America Does Not Trust Geithner, Summers to Regulate Wall Street
American taxpayers now own 80% of AIG. They'll be paying back the government, and paying off the bonuses, with our money. There is no reason to be tiptoeing around these people.
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What Did Geithner Know and When Did He Know It?
Geithner got into this trouble because he saw Wall Street as his main constituency rather than the American people.
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Why AIG and Jim Cramer Matter
The new economy, the one that not only gets us out of this crisis, but keeps us out of the next, will not have a place for either AIG type bonuses or Jim Cramer-type journalism.
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A Real Simple Solution to the AIG Bonus Mess
Rather than allow these bonuses to remain intact or to take them away outright, how about deferring them until the companies and their troubled business units turn their financial fortunes around?
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Getting Lehman Wrong a Second Time
The sums of money going to bail out the financial industry dwarf the waste and pork that get John McCain and other budget hawks excited. Yet they are strangely calm about the bailout money.
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Lifting the Tarp: Will President Obama's Economic Team Lead Him Off a Cliff?
The outrage over the AIG bonuses is a sideshow. The larger problem, both financially and politically, is the entire strategy for rescuing the banks. Obama needs to get a second opinion.
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A Second Act for Spitzer?
There is an attorney who can get to the bottom of our current financial crisis and lay the blame and guilt at the foot of the culprits. Eliot Spitzer, phone home.
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Taxing Bonuses: A Matter of Fundamental Fairness
Giving out $18 billion in bonuses at a time when ordinary Americans have seen their life savings collapse is outrageous. To give out these bonuses using federal bailout money is over the edge.
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Good Work, AIG!
The bonuses may seem greedy, but look what quality stuff they're producing!...
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Unacceptable Excuse of the Day
The ongoing AIG mess provides us with an interesting sidelight today -- the use of an excuse that is no longer acceptable in the unwired global universe in which we now live.
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What to Do About "Mad as Hell"
What would it take to change a whole subculture that has escaped all ethical boundaries?
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Bernanke Dodges the Bullets
By fueling anger over AIG bonuses, Bernanke is playing a very old game. By aiming at AIG, he is distracting public anger from the Federal Reserve. He is protecting his reputation and legacy.
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AIG Bonus Scandal Spotlights the Bankruptcy of Wall Street's "Greed is Good" Values
Greed was never good. Normal people know that, but it has been completely lost on the Wall Street crowd and the American economic elite.
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A Disturbing D.C. Whodunit [Update II]
The mystery over who killed a provision in the stimulus package that would have curtailed bonuses at bailed out companies is a disturbing D.C. whodunit. But even more disturbing is what it reveals about how our government is run.
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Defining Extravagance Up
It's admirable that our leaders now want to be frugal with our money but let's remember what the taxpayers themselves have been buying with money not rendered unto Uncle Sam.
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AIG Counter-Party Payments Worse than Bonuses
When the key points of the AIG counter-parties list finally sink in to the American population, there is going to be a run on torches and pitchforks at local hardware stores.
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Pendulum Swings Against Business, Banks, and Bonuses
Anybody who hasn't been living in a cave knows how bonuses got a bad name: excess and greed in large business. But what those of us in small business, where a bonus is a reward for a job well done?
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Enough With The Pitchforks And Head-Rolling
Such knee-jerk populist rage is precisely what gave populist rage a bad name in the first place, whereby a valid democratic outlook is construed as nothing more than an angry-mob uprising.
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Why We Must Let the AIG Guys Keep Their Frigging Bonuses
The AIG "tax" bill passed by the House (and supported by President Obama) is retroactive. It taxes income at a special rate retroactively. Taking property without due process of law.
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A Crime to Make Money
It seems to have finally dawned on government leaders that bonus recipients are not the only ones who should be afraid.
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Should Obama Stop Trusting Geithner's Advice?
If the American people come to see the Obama administration as complicit in Wall Street's unethical behavior, then Obama's entire economic program could end up in shambles.
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AIG, Populist Rage, and the Future of Banks
Lately the torches-and-pitchforks voices have begun to drown out serious discussion. Time to take a deep breath or two: populist rage is a rotten basis for policy-making.
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How to Recoup the AIG Bonuses
Let's get real. This may be a nation of laws, but contracts are not sacred, and employment contracts are less sacred than any.
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Why are People Defending the Bonuses?
There was no risk management on Wall Street, there was mostly excessive risk-taking. And it was largely due to outsized bonuses that rewarded risky banking while penalizing minimally for losses.
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Tax the Bonuses
Amid all the hand-wringing about whether or not the government has the power to stop AIG from paying bonuses to the very people who helped...
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Ain't I Greedy!
Ever since AIG entered the public consciousness in a very negative way last fall, people have been wondering what the initials stand for.
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It's Gut-Check Time
Right now Obama is trying to walk on an incredibly narrow line with no safety net beneath, but this is gut-check time: he has to decide which side he's on.
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Capitalism and Moral Sentiments
The fascinating thing about this Wall Street greed is that it is so deeply ingrained that neither the bankers themselves nor our economic leadership understands just how disgusting and dangerous it is.
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Smoking Gun Points to Geithner
How long will and should Obama continue to defend Geithner in the face of the smoking gun proof of what he knew about AIG and when he knew it?
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Geithner Gives Away 2 Trillion While Country Screams About A Few Hundred Million At AIG
What Geithner is doing right now is similar to how a magician works. First he gets your attention on one thing "look, outrageous bonuses at AIG", then he does his trick while you're watching what he wants you to watch.
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Detroit Gets 10% of What AIG Already Has Received from TARP
Why does Detroit get only 10% of what the banks and Wall Street have been loaned?
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Why The Obama Administration Underestimated Public Outrage Over AIG?
No one can blame the Obama Administration for apparently misreading the level of public rage toward AIG executives, who have collected millions in bonuses while racking up billions in taxpayer bailout money.
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Perp Walks Instead of Bonuses
The collusion to save AIG in order to salvage the rogue financiers who conspired to enrich themselves by impoverishing millions is being revealed as the greatest financial scandal in U.S. history.
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Obama's AIG Comments Raise More Questions Than They Answer
If the president doesn't like the deal Geithner made, and is now telling Geithner to "pursue every legal avenue," why didn't he say that before the deal went down and the bonuses were paid out?
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Obama "Takes Responsibility" for AIG? Getting Mad Is Not Getting Even...
It's good to hear Obama take responsibility, but after the previous "I screwed up" and a few more "buck stops here," the value of that buck's worth might soon diminish.
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Upset with AIG? How About Your Bailout Funds Supporting Tiger Woods and Europe's Soccer Stars?
There are few topics more fit for bailout-inspired vitriol than the sports marketing and sponsorship deals bargained by financial services firms and automakers surviving due to taxpayer largess.
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Missing The Point On AIG Bonuses
It's easy to get outraged at the announcement that AIG will be paying over one hundred and fifty million dollars out as bonuses, after taxpayers...
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The AIG Bonus Clawback Bill Won't Work -- Here's What Will
Concentrating on bonuses for employees at firms which have been bailed out misses the point. It's not just those firms whose employees need to be taxed heavier, it's everyone.
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AIG: The Media's Appalling Hypocrisy and Anti-Obama Bias
For eight years, the Republicans gave unprecedented trillion dollar bonuses to the richest people in America. Where was the MSM's outrage then?
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Economic Credibility Gap: Obama Defies His Own Economic Team, Demands Move to Block AIG Bonuses
Obama's public contradiction of Timothy Geithner and Larry Summers raises a very serious question: Who is in charge -- the president or the Washington and Wall Street insiders he put around himself?
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Come on, AIG Guys! Cough it Up.
How to restore that trust? I can think of one thing that could be done immediately. It's not easy. It's totally counter-intuitive. It will never happen. But it would be an excellent gesture.
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Will the Politicians Give Back Their AIG Bonuses?
Mr. President and members of Congress, it's time to give back AIG's political contributions.
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90% Tax? Now, We Really are Screwed
The frantic passage of the Populist Rage Tax was a new low in the US government's response to this crisis.
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How to Stop AIG's Bonuses
Today the task is to stop a grotesque abuse before it is too late. The path we outline here would do it, without throwing markets into turmoil.
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Other Types of Bonuses Deserve an Examination
There would be enormous value in seeing bank executives demonstrate that they know we're all in this together, that they too have changed their way of life and that they too can sacrifice in times of crisis.
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Larry Summers: Stop the AIG Bonuses. Yes You Can.
Larry Summers claims that nothing can be done about the AIG bonuses. As a former Secretary of the Treasury, he should know better.
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Why Obama Was Smart to Come Out Strongly Against the AIG Bonuses
The Republicans were going to grab onto the populist anti-bank feelings in the country to position themselves as the party of the people, with the Democrats being cast as the party of the bankers.
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Cable News Has Failed All of Us Once Again on the Economy
It's time for back to basics. Capitalism In Crisis 101. It's crazy that we're this far into the crisis and it needs to be explained, but that's the situation we find ourselves in. Paging Professor Obama.
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House of Chutzpah, House of Cards, or Back to the Future Again
The disgust burbled up at the callousness of Enron; it has been simmering ever since, and with AIG it has boiled over.
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AIG Anger and the Free Market Myth
What do the Easter Bunny, the Tooth Fairy, Santa Claus and the "free market" have in common? None of them exist.
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AIG Underscores the Need for Real Time Financial Accountability
With so much confusion in the financial marketplace, one thing is apparent: the American people deserve to know what government-supported banks are doing and how our tax dollars are being used.
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Fake Outrage by Politicians About AIG Bonuses
Time after time, Bush, Obama and Congress had an opportunity to attach limits on executive pay to legislation authorizing bailout money. And time after time, they refused. So, spare me the outrage.
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AIG: Will We Solve the Underlying Problem?
AIG gave more than $9 million in campaign contributions to Congress -- making the list of the top 100 contributors of all time, splitting its money evenly between those in both parties.
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The "Populists" Are Right About Wall Street
How has a popular Democratic president with a convincing electoral mandate failed to translate the opportunities of recent events into the "change" for which voters clamored?
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The Death of a Brand
AIG's predicament will be studied for years to come in marketing and communications classes. When the president of the United States starts bad mouthing your brand, it's not going to survive.
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The Geithner Plan
There is nothing forcing banks to participate in the program. And that is the real problem. And there is a big reason keeping the banks from participating: finding out that various assets aren't worth anything.
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Lying Or Incompetent - Either Way, Geithner Needs to Be Fired
I've never been a fan of Tim Geithner, but only today have I gotten to the point where I think it's clear he needs to be fired. Why? He's proven he is either lying to the public or totally incompetent.
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The Real Scandal of AIG
When our very own Secretary of the Treasury cannot make stick his decision that AIG's bonuses should not be paid, only one conclusion can be drawn: AIG is accountable to no one.
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Obama's Rugged Week
Is Geithner's plan another bailout to Wall Street? Or is it needed pragmatism to work with a deeply troubled, farcically entitled though still necessary private financial sector?
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Geithner's Last Stand
The indignation over AIG will serve a useful purpose if it focuses public attention on the much larger issue of the failure of the entire approach that Tim Geithner and Larry Summers are using to rescue the banking system.
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Creep of the Week: AIG Bonus Grantor Edward M. Liddy
AIG Chairman Edward M. Liddy gets the Creep of the Week award for his stunning, overwhelming, dumbfounding display of cluelessness.
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AIG Bonus Money is Kid's Play: Literally
If AIG were to donate the 418 bonuses to charity, it would be a brilliant preemptive PR move to neutralize its current out of touch public persona. Here's what the money could provide.
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Lessons from AIG
What is vital now is that the public's righteous anger is not expressed only as "no." There are a lot of things to which We The People do need to say "no." But we need a lot of "yes's," too.
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There's no reason for the filthy rich to hoard so much money, especially since it was probably ill-gotten to begin with. Let us stop the silly worship of the wealthy; we now know that their feet are made of clay. They are no better or more talented than the average person, they just have less scruples.
Then the ensuing income tax levied could be increased, using the AMT, alternative minimum tax, which will tax the hell out of the excess income tax - sort of a tax on top of the tax. It's been on the books for years, and is perfectly legal.
And make it retroactive while they're at it.
Then the IRS has to follow up with the affected people, to make sure they pay their taxes when due.
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This is not, nor should it appear to be, a witch hunt. If it were, or appeared to be, the taxes could be viewed as punishment rather than recovery, and thus potentially subject to the prohibition against ex post facto laws in the Constitution. In Calder v Bull, [3 U.S. (3 Dall.) 386, 393 (1798)], the Supreme Court determined that that prohibition applied only to criminal laws.
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Let's do this.
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Indianapolis Central Library
I love this idea. It seems to be the easiest way to get the money back into the Treasury.
And I would like to propose a CREDIT for people who are homeless. The Earned Income Credit does not help people who have been unemployed or underemployed so there needs to be a tax credit to get money into the hands of homeless people who want to rent a place. And buy stuff.
My only problem is that $100K figure. Make it $1.
I don't criticize your emotions here... just saying that you have to look for another outlet. This one is completely unsuitable and you will end up even more disappointed and outraged.
Just look at the drug laws pertaining to blacks and whites re: cocaine and crack.
I see no reason not to rewrite the tax laws for, say, hedge fund managers. They're already taxes differently. So....those conditions can be changed to not be so advantageous. Same goes for bonuses. They can be taxed at a much higher rate than a regular salary.
The law can be used for anything we want. So if AIG doesn't see fit to do the right thing, they will be forced to one way or another.
There is, of course, case law which provides that Congress can even adopt retroactive provisions without viiolating the Constitution.
Some caution needs to be exercised, however, and we need to watch actions of the politicians.
If all of them genuinely want to claw back the taxpayer-financed bonuses, they will propose and draft the legislative language in a way that does not violate Article I, Section 9, paragraph 3 of the Constitution regarding the prohibition against creating a Bill of Attainder.
In contrast, if there are those who want to pretend that they want to recover unjustified bonuses while actually wanting to work to provide protection for the recipients through the Constitional provision, they may purposely do just the opposite.
Of course, the same paragraph in Article I, Section 9 contains a prohibition against ex post facto laws but this prohibition is restricted to criminal laws and is inapplicable to strictly tax provisions even when they are intended to be applied retroactively.
Let me make a prediction: the politicians will milk this as long as they can and by the time it's milked the public will have moved on. Then they will drop it.
In short: sometimes one just has to suck it up, no matter how bad it feels.
The Supreme Court can follow its own precedents. It is not required to subscribe to any alternative theory that you think is or might be offered.
As noted by the Chief Counsel's office for the Treasury Department in a particular 2001 memo:
"The United States Supreme court has repeatedly upheld retroactive tax
legislation provided the legislation is supported by a legitimate legislative purpose
furthered by rational means."
http://www.irs.ustreas.gov/pub/irs-wd/0108040.pdf
That memo cites one particular Supreme Court opinion. If you review that opinion, it will lead you to others.
If you believe that the Supreme Court must subscribe, if at all, to a "theory that the law can be used by the government to break existing non-government contracts," I suggest that the theory originated with you and it doesn't have to be defended by anyone else. However, since you raised the issue, please let me mention that the theory that you raised is not a particularly unusual one and give you just one example of which virtually all adults are aware. Prior to Prohibition, some alcohol producers had enforceable contracts. Prohibition changed that. A person who researches the law will find other examples as well.
This is pretty sick stuff. I don't want a federal government anymore, States could most probably take better care of themselves by themselves. No more President for me, any party!
I happen to agree with him. In response, however, you have offered your opinion that his proposal would be futile while saying, in part, "... there are so many problems with their "taxing" the bonuses, constitutionally that is."
You are welcome to your opinion.
With respect to the futility issue, you also said, "Congress can scream all they want, ..." Does this mean something to you? It doesn't to me because I don't know of anyone in Congress who is screaming about this. If such an event has occurred, I haven't observed anyone in Congress screaming, or shriking, or even shouting.
If the reason for any of this is red hot revenge of the system on the system, so be it. Let's destroy Rome while we are at it (by which I mean the tax code, of course).
But if we are trying to actually punish the people who are most responsible, the tax code is a dull weapon. I can already see thousands of IRS workers with a $50k salary and a grudge work out who is supposed to pay back taxes and who isn't. And I can see the secretary being thrown under the bus without legal representation (which she can't afford), while the CEOs will get themselves a $6000/hour law teams (and have a hundred amicae curiae speak on their behalves) and sue their way all the way to the supreme court which will give them all their money back and then some.
It is recovery. If it were punishment, it would violate the Constitution's prohibition against ex post facto laws. As recovery--just as in providing asymmetric benefits under the tax code--this is perfectly legitimate and would pass constitutional muster without problem.