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Mitt(i)Gate?

Posted: 07/12/2012 9:06 am

For a party that prides itself on representing big business, Republicans' last two leaders seem to have had little business acumen when it comes close to home.

Former Governor Mitt Romney does not know where his investments are. Former presidential candidate Senator John McCain did not know how many houses he owned.

Romney's responses to questions about his 'unusual' (for a presidential wannabe) financial behavior are rather curious. On the one hand, he claims with all righteousness that he pays all his U.S. taxes "as appropriate" and that everything is legal and proper. On the other hand, he alleges he knows nothing about his investments at all.

How, exactly, is Romney so certain that he pays all his U.S. taxes if he does not even know where his funds are located? For that matter, how can he not know where they are located if he signs his tax returns that detail all of his holdings?

And what does the qualifier "as appropriate" mean?

Romney's trusts may, indeed, be "blind." But, they are certainly not deaf.

Romney's Swiss bank account, closed in 2010, raises troubling questions. Had this been the only overseas account he had, one might have concluded that the trustee, Romney's personal lawyer, had some inkling that Romney might run for president, and that a Swiss bank account might not be the greatest idea.

But having other secret accounts in the Cayman Islands and Bermuda, also very well-known tax dodges, is no great shakes for a presidential candidate either. So, why did they just close the Swiss account?

Under President Obama, the stock market has grown by more than 50%, and profits for many firms are at all-time highs, yet he is constantly vilified by those who have prospered. Although he has taken a few swipes at Wall Street behavior, so did President George W. Bush, yet they still love him despite the economic collapse.

One reason that Wall Street does not show the president much love is that his administration and Senator Carl Levin have successfully pressed Switzerland to open its secretive banking. It would not be surprising if many of the "vilifiers" were those who can no longer hide their funds in a numbered (no-name) account in Switzerland.

President George W. Bush, on the other hand, served them well. President Clinton was close to concluding an international agreement to prevent tax havens from hiding income and wealth. When the Supreme Court installed Bush as president, he withdrew the US from that agreement.

Thanks to Bush, his wealthy friends were able to enjoy another nine years of hiding their income and forcing the rest of us to make up what they were hiding.

Many of those accounts, and the income from them, are now subject to U.S. taxation. Those who had hidden, undeclared accounts first were given until October 15, 2010, to reveal their accounts' existence, pay the taxes they owed and a modest penalty, but are not subject to criminal prosecution.

That is, they received an amnesty.

If Romney's tax returns revealed that he were one of those who received amnesty, he could still properly claim that "all taxes were paid, and that he complied with U.S. laws" on the basis of his not having been charged with a crime after he revealed his prior wrongdoing.

But, if it ever became known that he received amnesty, the American people would utterly reject him for two reasons: amnesty means he had been breaking the law for many years and putting extra tax burdens on honest Americans and that he was accorded special treatment only the wealthy receive.

Even the Kochs could not save his hide. It would be as if Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama had not run in 2008, John Edwards had thus won the primaries and then his Rielle affair became public.

It is very clear that Romney is willing to lose rather than make several years of his tax returns public. One can only wonder how the Republicans -- who do not much like Romney anyhow -- feel about him putting himself in front of the interests of the party.

That raises a provocative question for Republicans.

No one, except the Romney family, his trustee and the IRS, knows whether Romney received amnesty. Are Republicans willing to risk that enterprising investigative reporters or WikiLeaks, which appears be able to get almost anything, may discover this prior to the election, dooming not only his candidacy but, likely, taking the party down with him?

Or are they just stuck with him, no matter what happens?

 

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GroveGal10
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08:37 AM on 08/15/2012
Someone needs to stay on this issue. All indications point to Romney entering the Amnesty Program either because his name appeared on the list provided by the UBS or he did so voluntarily. If he did, his returns from 2003 forward were amended to include taxes, interest and fines. That's a very plausible reason why he can't disclose those. People who entered the Amnesty program did so to avoid being charged with a felony. Reporters need to put this issue high on their list. What's become of reporters today? The days of digging like Bernstein and Woodard were never more needed.
04:31 PM on 07/28/2012
Just a question, because I am unclear. When did it become illegal to have a hidden Swiss account? It wasnt illegal before, and then it became law that you had to disclose and pay taxes?
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Paul Abrams
12:14 AM on 08/20/2012
It was always illegal. It was just impossible to prosecute because the Swiss Accounts are numbered (no names). When Switzerland, especially UBS (Romney's bank) had to disgorge names and account specifics due to pressure from Senator Carl Levin and the Obama Treasury Department, there were 1000s of people affected. The IRS decided to allow people to pay all their back taxes, plus a 25% penalty on the top year...and, if it were all completed by a certain date, the person who had been breaking the law all those years would receive an amnesty from prosecution.
10:12 PM on 07/22/2012
Well how is that a guy that runs for President have Amnesty? It would disqualify Romney. If the IRS knows this they must come forward with that information.
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Paul Abrams
12:14 AM on 08/20/2012
The IRS is confidential. Unless Romney permits them to divulge something, his matters--just like everyone else's--is confidential, and cannot be disclosed.
05:59 AM on 07/19/2012
This is the ONLY plausible reason I've read as to why Romney absolutely refuses to release his tax returns. If Romney received amnesty for years of tax evasion, he's toast. Al Capone wound up in Alcatraz for tax evasion.

I wonder who the Republican Presidential nominee will turn out to be. Next month's Republican Convention should be VERY interesting...
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INVICTUS
08:30 PM on 07/12/2012
The only two questions left are when will he go on trial, and how much time will he serve.
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kaykaythere
Game of Global ThermoNuclear NukeATroll anyone?
08:28 PM on 07/12/2012
MItts plan of MittsInformation is really starting to try my patience.

I tend to be pretty open minded, but entirely insulted when someone asks me to believe that as a uber rich dude, he has no clue where the offshore accounts are or how much is in there? I know about the blind trust, as I HAD one for some time, and I always knew how much was in them and where the money was. I just didn't know WHAT was being invested in my name.

I also tend to be a little weary about this Tax return thing. I make a really good salary but my accountant does get my little return done on time. Is it that Mitt can't get his paperwork together, but I would think he would have people to do this? Or is it something else?

We have lived through 5 years of people slamming Obama as a non-American and yet he released his short form and long form birth certificates to squelch the issue. Not good enough. The Sec Of State of AZ, recently weighed in and certified that the received the documentation required to say Obama is a citizen. And Obama has released taxes back to 2000. FAR more than any other candidate.

Mitt's father, who was born in Mexico, was NEVER asked for his birth certificate, his college records or his circumcision records like the RIGHT Is asking from Obama.

Mitt's father, released his taxes GLADLY. Why NOT YOU MITT?
08:11 PM on 07/12/2012
Can the pubs still draft someone else like Santorum at the convention and dump this trouble some Mormon. Romney gets shadier by the day.
07:49 PM on 07/12/2012
Romney knows very well where his money is. A person doesn't get that rich by not knowing. He just can't say or it will look very bad for him.
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Irmanator
CARRIED INTEREST should be taxed as income
06:46 PM on 07/12/2012
How can you have an IRA that has $100 million in it? How can you have a trust fund for your kids with +$100 million in it? You would have to lie about the value of the stocks you are putting in them. To get that much money in there, you would have to lie for several years.
09:54 PM on 07/12/2012
Don't forget you have to steal it from everybody else to obtain it!
01:11 AM on 07/16/2012
I did the math when I first heard about the IRA. At the maximum contribution for one person since IRAs were created, you have to have averaged about a 29% annual return to get to $100 million by 2012. If you spread it over the accounts for a married couple (and I haven't seen details to tell me which it is), you only need to average 26% a year.

I want to see investments with that kind of return year in and year out!
apoyo
Micro-bio? Sounds serious.
05:21 PM on 07/12/2012
The question we should be asking is whether that's how he will take care of the nation's finances?
Will he know where that money is?
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01:39 AM on 07/13/2012
Willard is only interested in the ceramonial aspects of the Presidency

you know, laying wreaths, greeting foreign dignitaries, going to big important parties and flying in Air Force One

but imo, he would treat the US Presidency like he did his last 3 years at Bain

in charge on paper -- but not really there, somebody else would be runnng everything

he would put other corporate raiders in there and they would take everything that was not nailed down for themselves

and if something happened he would say he wasn't there, he doesn't know about it

and, imo, Romney would use the powers of the president to cover everything up

he has been keeping all the voters in the dark so far -- why would he stop?

he lies all the time now -- why would he stop?

If he can be the President, Romney would be able to say that all his constant lying and not telling voters his plans or anything else

and not being straight about his business dealings paid off
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09:20 AM on 07/16/2012
your analogy is spot on. romney is still taking over institutions and sucking their juices...this time the institution's called the USA....

the 'other people's money' are the super-pacs and they are the investors.
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10:52 AM on 07/17/2012
excellent post. fanned and faved.
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04:45 PM on 07/12/2012
Yeah Romney also "didn't know" so he told us...he was employing illegal immigrants to work for him on his mansions LAWN...until he was found out..and then said...I'm running for office, I can't have illegal immigrants working for me. WHAT? It would have been okay fine if he wasn't running for office?

Then of course is the matter of "just forgetting" where all his millions are stashed off shore, as in his long lost BERMUDA account? How many of you have so much money in so many accounts you just forget you have MILLIONS in Bermuda?

Right.

Not to mention...

Romney's unbelievable stupidity and cruelty for actually thinking putting your family dog in a cage on the roof of your car to travel for hours to Canada, was a swell idea.
Passing a Health Care Plan in Mass. that he now demonizes President Obama for. Calling it a Penality in Mass, while insisting it's a TAX because Obama passed it for the entire Country...passed the SAME dang Plan!

Every time Romney opens his mouth the ONLY things you can believe in are, he will totally change his mind soon, he will lie, or conveniently FORGET, or he will weirdly sing the darn National Anthem like some dork.
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04:39 PM on 07/12/2012
One can only wonder how the Republicans -- who do not much like Romney anyhow -- feel about him putting himself in front of the interests of the party.
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republicans put party above country

why should they care if Willard puts himself above the party?

who's to say -- in Willard mind, he's entitled

so he might already think that it's the natural order ...

jus' sayin'
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cognitogrrl
No Repubs putting Baby in the corner
01:21 AM on 07/13/2012
Eerily, that makes sense.
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04:47 AM on 07/13/2012
since Willard is the GOTP nominee, he's the head of the party anyway, (at least until Nov according to Mitch Mcconnell)
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ez14livin
12:49 PM on 07/12/2012
instead of "america the beautiful", mitt should be singing, "let's do the time warp"
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Paul Abrams
02:45 PM on 07/12/2012
Mitt shows that if you give tax cuts to the rich, they send their money to tax havens
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kaykaythere
Game of Global ThermoNuclear NukeATroll anyone?
08:29 PM on 07/12/2012
To be fair, the GOP never said the jobs created by tax cuts would be created in the US. (I actually heard a GOPer say that TODAY).
12:43 PM on 07/12/2012
Romney clinging to secrecy and hiding his finances should be an issue for Republican voters too. Cheating and amnesty are not conservative, except for the Wall Street version.
12:38 PM on 07/12/2012
It never ceases to amaze me how we separate ineptitude into two factions, dems and reps, and determine how one or the other party is lying, cheating and scandalizing, then vote for the guy or gal we believe isn't at all or isn't as badly as the othe party.

No politician is a scientist, an economic genius, a logician; occasionally, one pops up who plays a musical instrument, but that does not necessarily make him or her a great leader.

Politicians are politicians; the mad hatter is mad. Both are true by definition. Politicians will do anything to get elected, or they wouldn't be politicians. If they were politicians and didn't do anything it takes to get elected, you wouldn't even know they existed.

Who can we trust to be a great leader? No candidate is the sole decision maker. Parties make decisions; leaders are the puppets of parties.

Why get so steamed over Bush, Romney, Obama, Clinton ... ? They all have agendas when they start out, then end up "winging" it in response to situations such as war, economic changes, gay rights, gun ownership ... . The list goes on.

One thing's for certain, no matter who leads, I would personally rather live out of the back seat of my car than in any other country in this world, since there's still opportunity around the corner offering me a chance to get out of the back seat in the U.S.

I challenge anyone to deny it.
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alexeiz
Since I lost all hope, I feel much better!
03:35 PM on 07/12/2012
Optimist says that we live in the best country in the world. Pessimist is afraid that it's true.
07:53 PM on 07/12/2012
If you have to live out of the back seat, then the GOP is not your party, that's for sure.