Paul Abrams

Paul Abrams

Posted: November 25, 2007 08:56 PM

Rove: "Congress Pushed Bush to War in Iraq Prematurely"

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You are not going to believe this, well, actually you will... According to Karl Rove (on Charlie Rose), the Bush Administration did not want Congress to vote on the Iraq War resolution in the fall of 2002, because they thought it should not be done within the context of an election. Rove, you see, did not think the war vote should be "political".

Moreover, according to Rove, that "premature vote" led to many of the problems that cropped up in the Iraq War. Had Congress not pushed, he says, Bush could have spent more time assembling a coalition, and provided more time to the inspectors.

If you are like me, you have stopped reading/listening, and are rushing to get your anti-emetic.

It is worth remembering that the Senate in the fall of 2002 was controlled, barely, by Democrats. Get it? George Bush, we are being told, wanted to delay, wanted to hold back, wanted to take the time to build a coalition and let the inspectors finish their job, but that damn Congress just pushed him into it. George Bush, you see, is a careful, prudent, leader, deeply concerned about the consequences of premature.

Get it? If Biden, Clinton, Dodd or Edwards is part of the Democratic ticket, the Republicans will run a campaign charging the Senate Democrats with rushing to judgment, of pushing the poor President to premature...(well, you fill in the blank)....

Not that Iraq is that big of an issue. Rove claims that, if Iraq had been a big issue, that Joe Lieberman, who was pro-war, could not have won in Connecticut, defeating receiving more Democratic, Independent and Republican votes than any of his opponents.

I have purposefully NOT provided the (obvious) answers to his claims because to answer is to give him control of the argument. That's Rove's tactic, and I have written about that many times in these pages.

Instead, this should be used as a trigger to talk about Rove's history of dissembling, how that is reflected in the Bush Administration's entire approach to public policy and public information. Bush, through Rove, should be attacked for trying to escape responsibility and accountability. And, it will help to make some historical references to rulers whose tenure was so dismal that they could not allow historians to provide objective analyses, and thus try to write the history themselves.

As might have been predicted, Rove raises "historical revisionism" to new depths, what may become known as "hysterical Rovisionism."

 
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- bluesnot I'm a Fan of bluesnot 13 fans permalink

"There are no evil people, there are
only victims. What does that mean?
If a rapist is a victim, you should have compassion
when you kick him in the balls."

-Jerry Garcia

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:01 PM on 11/28/2007
- pmretep I'm a Fan of pmretep 7 fans permalink
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Are we all missing something here? If Bush needed more time to assemble a coalition, did he not have the luxury to take that time by delaying the decision to invade? I think that Karl Rove has now fully reached the end of his credibility rope. When you can refute his syllogisms even before his lips stop moving by pointing out the fallacy of any of his assertions, he has lost all reason for being. No wonder he ain't at the White House no mo'.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:51 AM on 11/28/2007

More pure HOGWASH from this slippery slimy liar!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:46 AM on 11/28/2007
- KoolBreez I'm a Fan of KoolBreez 15 fans permalink

Stop trying to get them to admit they are lying or trying to prove to each other that they are lying.. Let's somehow stop these guys from destroying the country any more..

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:44 AM on 11/28/2007

Perhaps a vigorous and continuing campaign to boycott fox news advertisers products would have an effect. The fact that they give this baboon air time at all is indicative of the huge underlying problem, that money can buy almost anything. It's disgusting. Well then, money can also TAKETH AWAY.

I turned off my television about a year ago and I highly recommend it. If the whole country would do that, I wonder what might happen? Would your children read? Would you take more walks? Would you buy less crap? The questions are endless.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:39 AM on 11/28/2007
- ptarantino I'm a Fan of ptarantino 9 fans permalink

Will Karl ever go to jail for his political tamperings?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:32 AM on 11/28/2007

Just when I think they can't possibly stoop any lower, they prove me wrong again. Say what you will about Bush and friends, they're consistent. Evil, but consistent.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:21 AM on 11/28/2007

More turd from the less blossom!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:05 AM on 11/28/2007

great article Abrams! this is to MC Rove: dude, we're not stupid. we read, we dig, we ask, we research, we blog and we know the deal. there's massive amounts of evidence to dismiss stupid former turd blossom's "revisionism", namely, books, tons of articles, video feeds, news footage etc. Thank you for not feeding the biggest troll of all, Abrams, let's not give this nemesis architect an iota of credibility. and how utterly insulting to the intelligence of Americans to come to the table, quite literally, with such stupid, vacuous claims. Rove can go to Hell with that BS.

Impeach the bastards now!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:55 AM on 11/28/2007
- bibimimi I'm a Fan of bibimimi 34 fans permalink
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I'm sure all the 'come too soon' jokes are fully exhausted. Rove is a twisted liar.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:51 AM on 11/28/2007

Why aren't people falling down laughing at this cretin? After all the lies they told to justify the war to find out they just rationalized and now he wants to put the onus on Congress? They were complicit but they didn't cheerlead for it. There is only one cheerleader in the White House. With his waterboy, Rove, on the bench.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:49 AM on 11/28/2007
- sugarmoes I'm a Fan of sugarmoes 19 fans permalink
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sole purpose of rove's upcoming book - try to stay out of prison.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:48 AM on 11/28/2007

I'm cancelling my Newsweek subscription....I'm so done with them.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:38 AM on 11/28/2007

Pure Evil. Pure American Evil.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:33 AM on 11/28/2007
- sa I'm a Fan of sa 15 fans permalink

a lot of people are making a lot of money
in the stock market off companies
that are tied to the iraq war.
the people behind these "investments"
want to feel good about their new
windfall cash,
so they turn to fox news
or rove's latest "speech"
to justify that the money they have "won"
is not evil.

believe me, nothing you can tell them
will disuade them from rove's "truth."

america is a disgusting blackholesun of greed.
these assholes will stop at nothing
to rob the world and feed themselves.

nothing will change. assholes will still
start wars, and profit from them off the backs
of the poor soldiers - just like any corporation profits off the backs of the laborers. it is capitalism - catch a whiff?
it smells like death itself.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:26 AM on 11/28/2007
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