Rove: "Congress Pushed Bush to War in Iraq Prematurely"
You are not going to believe this, well, actually you will... According to Karl Rove (on Charlie Rose), the Bush Administration did not want Congress to vote on the Iraq War resolution in the fall of 2002, because they thought it should not be done within the context of an election. Rove, you see, did not think the war vote should be "political".
Moreover, according to Rove, that "premature vote" led to many of the problems that cropped up in the Iraq War. Had Congress not pushed, he says, Bush could have spent more time assembling a coalition, and provided more time to the inspectors.
If you are like me, you have stopped reading/listening, and are rushing to get your anti-emetic.
It is worth remembering that the Senate in the fall of 2002 was controlled, barely, by Democrats. Get it? George Bush, we are being told, wanted to delay, wanted to hold back, wanted to take the time to build a coalition and let the inspectors finish their job, but that damn Congress just pushed him into it. George Bush, you see, is a careful, prudent, leader, deeply concerned about the consequences of premature.
Get it? If Biden, Clinton, Dodd or Edwards is part of the Democratic ticket, the Republicans will run a campaign charging the Senate Democrats with rushing to judgment, of pushing the poor President to premature...(well, you fill in the blank)....
Not that Iraq is that big of an issue. Rove claims that, if Iraq had been a big issue, that Joe Lieberman, who was pro-war, could not have won in Connecticut, defeating receiving more Democratic, Independent and Republican votes than any of his opponents.
I have purposefully NOT provided the (obvious) answers to his claims because to answer is to give him control of the argument. That's Rove's tactic, and I have written about that many times in these pages.
Instead, this should be used as a trigger to talk about Rove's history of dissembling, how that is reflected in the Bush Administration's entire approach to public policy and public information. Bush, through Rove, should be attacked for trying to escape responsibility and accountability. And, it will help to make some historical references to rulers whose tenure was so dismal that they could not allow historians to provide objective analyses, and thus try to write the history themselves.
As might have been predicted, Rove raises "historical revisionism" to new depths, what may become known as "hysterical Rovisionism."
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bush could barely CONTAIN himself in his gleeful rush to war!
The quote for the Iraq war from Bush was
"If your against us your considered a terrorist"
Was said to congress before the vote to go to war.
These people are unbelievably the most Dangerous Politically Corrupt Minds ever seen, in the history of our Country. I heard this on Keith O last night and couldn't believe my ears. What planet is he living on, lets unplug him from the Matrix?
What amazes me is the Fox News Watchers, that are so stupid & brainwashed not to see the truth of what is really going on. However if you turned the page into a situation where the Democrats were doing what the Republicans are doing, they would be all over it in a Rudy Gulliani New York Minute.
Somebody needs to tell rove, it doesn't matter anymore...everybody knows he is a liar, bush, cheney, rice, rummy, powell, wolfie, all of them. He can stop with the bullshit. We have seen the wizard behind the curtain...
I don't think this is as ham-handed as it first appears. Certainly what Rove says is just blatantly false, but I don't think he's just attempting to make Bush look better. What he's trying to do is to make the cowardly, corrupt, rubber-stamping Republican Congress of the time look like they didn't play their part in enabling him. They would have given Bush and company anything they wanted, anything, as long as he promised to 'keep them safe'.
By making such an outrageous statement, I think Rove is trying to convince people that it wasn't poor Congress that messed up, it was only Bush (who isn't running again anyway). He couldn't have done what he did without the complicity of a docile and enabling Congress. They aren't innocent, they played their part and so they share the blame.
That is anything but the facts. Take a look at what former President Clinton was counseling at the time.
http://facts.hillaryhub.com/archive/?id=4406
Note how Clinton asserted that you have to take yes for an answer. That is really where it all started to fall apart.
It's time to try this cabal of liars, murderers, cheats, thieves and traitors. Hang 'em high--after a brief and expeditious trial in the Hague. War Crimes are War Crimes--and this bunch committed endless War Crimes.
I hate these people. They've destroyed American democracy and lined the pockets of corporations and the rich. They do NOT give a shit about their country.
Karl proves it every time he opens his piggy mouth.
And rove continues to try and remain relivent by spouting off more of his batshit crazy lies.
with your qualifications mr. rove, I see a bright career as spokemen on all things propaganda on faux news.
as long as the GOP has their talk radio monopoly and it's uncontested coordinated repetition to 50-70MIL, rove and the 'think tanks' can continue to dominate the message. they couldn't have sold the war in the first place without it.
the rove-coordinated talk radio machine, had all national and local blowhards simultaneously calling for their listeners to call their reps to tell them to "stand up and be counted" (that was the phrase), when dems wanted to debate giving bush war powers instead of kissing bush's ring as rove demanded of teh GOP reps.
without searchable transcripts there is no record and since progressives don't listen to GOP talk radio their politicians probably had no idea why everyone wanted them suddenly to "stand up and be counted and vote war powers to bush . maybe they thought it was some national patriotic moment.
the march to war was full of rove to talk radio to establishment media flow. the groudwork was done on talk radio and until we get some new Fairness Doctrine the roves will continue to dominate and frame the debate while the analysis largely ignores talk radio.
Today on NPR there was some talking head from AEI. (WTF??? NPR??? Why do you continue to give these neocons credibility?)
He explained that oil prices are NOT affected by instability in the middle east, essentially pooh-poohing the peace efforts in Annapolis. He explained that the rise in oil prices is solely caused by INDIA and CHINA!
So, we have Rove blaming Congress for the Iraq war. We have AEI blaming India and China for instability in the oil markets. Where else are we going to see neocons placing blame for the godawful mess they have created.
On top of the AEI suggesting that stability in the middle east isn't a big deal, Giuliani is taking the sting of blame off of Bush by claiming he would have also invaded Iraq.
It's a whisper campaign, I tell you! A whisper campaign!
Here's Keith's reaction with the simple truth.
http://rawstory.com/rawreplay/index.php?p=141
now i've heard it all... the worst most bald-faced of lies.
It's apparent why bush put this dipshit out to pasture. The guy is totaly wacko!
This is why the Constitution REQUIRES that Congress declare war...so that this kind of disgusting and despicable treachery can NOT happen! This is why a Republican from Texas (yes a REPUBLICAN), who is now a Republican candidate for President, voted AGAINST giving Bush this abominable and disastrous authority in 2002.
In addition, Congressman Paul proposed a bill requiring that Congress actually read, debate, discuss and VOTE (what a concept!) on a Declaration of War, as REQUIRED by the Constitution. However, the Congress refused to even consider it.
Just further confirmation of what I already know about my choice for President in 2008. The ONLY candidate whose words and actions can not be dissembled or lied about ... Congressman Ron Paul.
If you doubt the accuracy of these facts you can go to Google, or Wiki, or even better, to YouTube, and hear this courageous and honest man make these statements to Congress and the American People (those of us who were paying attention)in the Fall of 2002.
There are now at least 75,000 of us on RonPaul MeetUp alone, who are actively and vigorously campaigning, educating and contributing to RonPaul2008. And the number is growing daily, because, contrary to what BOTH parties hope, the American People are NOT that stupid and we are taking responsibility for our vote in 2008.
Thank you for this post...now when is the Huff Post and its bloggers going to start talking abou Ron Paul, instead of fawning and scraping to the traitors and cowards who refuse to tell the truth??
if it didn't involve the killing of innocent people , like iraq civilians and american soldiers, i would be laughing out loud at his latest rovian joke.....remember the old 'flip wilson' show/ whenever the character was 'caught' his response was always..' the devil made me do it'....
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