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President Obama: What Is So Funny About Taxing And Regulating Marijuana?


Speaking live at an online Town Hall Meeting Thursday morning, President Barack Obama pledged "to open up the White House to the American people."

Well, to some of the American people, that is.

As for those tens of millions of you who believe that cannabis should be legally regulated like alcohol -- and the tens of thousands of you who voted to make this subject the most popular question in today's online Presidential Town Hall -- well, your voice doesn't really matter.

Asked this morning whether he "would ... support the bill currently going through the California legislation to legalize and tax marijuana, boosting the economy and reducing drug cartel related violence," the President responded with derision.

"There was one question that was voted on that ranked fairly high and that was whether legalizing marijuana would improve the economy and job creation, and I don't know what this says about the online audience," he laughed.

"The answer is no, I don't think that [is] a good strategy."

Obama's cynical rebuff was short-sighted and disrespectful to a large percentage of his supporters. After all, was it not this very same "online audience" that donated heavily to Obama's Presidential campaign and ultimately carried him to the White House?

Second, as I've written previously in The Hill and elsewhere, the overwhelming popularity of the marijuana law reform issue -- as manifested in this and in other similar forums -- illustrates that there is a significant, vocal, and identifiable segment of our society that wants to see an end to America's archaic and overly punitive marijuana laws.

The Obama administration should be embracing this constituency, not mocking it.

Third, will somebody please ask the President: "What is it that you think is so funny about the subject of marijuana law reform?"

Since 1965, police have arrested over 20 million Americans for violating marijuana laws, yet nearly 90 percent of teenagers say that pot is "very easy" or "fairly easy" to obtain. That's funny?

According to this very administration, there is an unprecedented level of violence occurring at the Mexico/US border -- much of which is allegedly caused by the trafficking of marijuana to the United States by drug cartels. America's stringent enforcement of pot prohibition, which artificially inflates black market pot prices and ensures that only criminal enterprises will be involved in the production and sale of this commodity, is helping to fuel this violence. Wow, funny stuff!

Finally, two recent polls indicate that a strong majority of regional voters support ending marijuana prohibition and treating the drug's sale, use, and distribution like alcohol. A February 2009 Zogby telephone poll reported that nearly six out of ten of voters on the west coast think that cannabis should be "taxed and legally regulated like alcohol and cigarettes." A just-released California Field Poll reports similar results, finding that 58 percent of statewide votes believe that regulations for cannabis should be the same or less strict than those for alcohol.

Does the President really think that all of these voters are worthy of his ridicule?

Let the White House laugh for now, but the public knows that this issue is no laughing matter. This week alone, legislators in Illinois, Minnesota, and New Hampshire voted to legalize the use of marijuana for authorized individuals. Politicians in three additional states heard testimony this week in favor of eliminating criminal penalties for all adults who possess and use cannabis. And lawmakers in Massachusetts and California are now debating legally regulating marijuana outright.

The American public is ready and willing to engage in a serious and objective political debate regarding the merits of legalizing the use of cannabis by adults. And all over this nation, whether Capitol Hill wants to acknowledge it or not, they are engaging in this debate as we speak.

Sorry, Obama -- this time the joke's on you.

Speaking live at an online Town Hall Meeting Thursday morning, President Barack Obama pledged "to open up the White House to the American people." Well, to some of the American people, that is. As f...
Speaking live at an online Town Hall Meeting Thursday morning, President Barack Obama pledged "to open up the White House to the American people." Well, to some of the American people, that is. As f...
 
 
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10:22 AM on 04/01/2009
Its a shame that Obama laughed about Marijuana.. I stopped watching after he laughed.. I'm sick and confined to a wheelchair and it felt like he was laughing at me..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bvGWG7Gmogg
08:25 PM on 04/01/2009
Sorry for the negative effect that President Obama's laughter caused you and everyone else who was expecting to hear more sympathetic words to their needs. In the beginning I too was one of his many campaigner's. But I realized he was just another politician when in his first primary debate he said he'd create more U.S. jobs by stopping NAFTA from sending work that Americans could do here in the U.S. to Mexico and Canada. But it was revealed later the next day that he sent someone from his staff to explain to those countries politicians he was just making political rhetoric. It was disappointing but nothing compared to what those who kept believing the Media/Movie Stars then cast their vote for him must feel like now. Hindsight sucks sometimes sir.
09:25 PM on 03/29/2009
And why do people assume the on-line community elected Obama and he should now be indebted to them. Reality Check!
10:19 PM on 03/29/2009
He certainly would not have raised the campaign cash he did and would not have kicked Hillary"s fannie. After all there were countless reports on just about all stations during the campaign and post election that gave the online movement a lot of credit, in both directions. It will be very unwise for the administration to believe that this issue voted number one, is somehow going away. (You could vote only once on each question so it really is number one) There are currently 4 open blogs on this subject at HPost, so to think that this is not an issue worthy of respectful debate now on the governmental level will pay the price during the next election. This applies not only to this issue, but also to such things as Health care, education and the deficit. The 25 billion dollars that are spent on incarcerating non-violent drug offenders could put over 400,000 new teachers in schools. The failed drugwar is intricately interconnected with many issues due to the sheer magnitude of the money involved. Lets get this done without prejudice and based on science, the time is NOW.
06:03 AM on 04/01/2009
Its not the point we are making that he owes the online community anything. Its the way he was making fun of the online Community for asking an important question to him! First he dissmisses the question like we are all goofy, second he failed to say it was the number one question asked, and finaly he acted like this is the first time he has herd of this issue( during the transition they had a poll on the change.com website and the top two questions were about Marijuana, in total 12 out of the top 30 questions were about marijuana) fourth, he is forgetting that Marijuana users are the largest minority group out there. Bigger then Blacks, gays and Hispanics, where are our rights and when do we become a group that has respect and not just made fun of, for even bring up an issue.

Is it ok for Obama to make fun of groups that hate abortion or wants to cure aids? Is it funny to bring up the War and the soldgers that have died, or 9/11, is that a funny issue? We have an issue that is very important to us and he makes fun of it and those who asked it? We are thinking the War on Drugs has failed us and it needs fixed. We are saying that the majority of americans what this law changed, 60+% CNN poll yesterday!
09:21 PM on 03/29/2009
Am I the only one thinking there's been a total 'misread' about the President's laugh and response to the pot question? Sometimes a little laugh, such as that, constitutes mild embarrassment. Sometimes it expresses other thoughts - such as, Not NOW kiddies - we've got bigger fish to fry.

This topic has not yet been seriously weighed re: the consequences of smoking pot on a regular basis. I am an affecionado (but of the type who uses rarely). Even at that - I sense what COULD be potentially serious problems associated with easy availability. I've known people who can put away far far more than I can even imagine. That's got to have some serious lung implications, as well as the freedom from inhibitions thing that could easily spell disaster for maintaining a healthy diet and one's having self control. Compound that with the freedom of usage among young people who still have high school and college in front of them (or work) - it's BIG. So the fact that the President of the United States wants to put it on the back burner for now makes TOTAL sense to me.

I'd rather see him address the Webb talk about how drugs has contributed to the shamefully huge numbers in our prison populations. That could be a number one peripheral issue: getting people out of jail and into life (rather than getting the rest of us high).
03:51 PM on 03/30/2009
Question: do any of us really believe that cannabis is not already easily available? However, to the point you made about the prison population: that was, in fact, the gist of the top-rated question which was, as you characterized it, addressed by the president with embarrassment:

"With over 1 out of 30 Americans controlled by the penal system, why not legalize, control, and tax marijuana to change the failed war on drugs into a money making, money saving boost to the economy? Do we really need that many victimless criminals?"
01:25 PM on 03/29/2009
Can the President not ever engage in a little levity without being accused of derision? I, too, believe pot should be legalized (along with damn near every other drug), but let's face it -- it's politically perilous, especially for Dems. I don't blame him for not wanting to go there, not with so much already on his plate. Please stop it with the "what's so funny?" stuff every time Obama smiles when answering a question. Don't be like a Republican.
03:18 PM on 03/29/2009
And continuing the 72 year failure and half a trillion wasted are pollitically perilous? Not answering the question and continuing this WILL be perilious. He mocked the very online audience that financed and elected him. To make a comment about what this says for his online audience is disrespectful and we will remember who dissed us. If he doesn't soon come up with an open and workable proposal, he will be a one timer. I supported the man because he promised change. He is continuing business as usual and the current fiasco with the Wall Street bailout and dems like MR Dodd and the conservadems are doing those who seek change all the more reason to vote for some one else. The time to change is now! Belitteling those who seek change and an end to this imense failure, which when all is said and done is responsible for a huge part of the drug problem, will no longer be silenced by the ill informed and the levity in coments such ass yours.
12:59 PM on 03/29/2009
Its time for the leaders of this nation to take note of whats actually happening around them. Marijuana use is on the rise, Medical Marijuana laws are being passed at the state level, Its time for the powers that be to legalize and finally do some serious research on the benefits of Marijuana. Finally they should put a 10 to 25% tax on its sale.
11:42 AM on 03/29/2009
I was disappointed by the President's remarks. He is alienating large numbers of Americans. It's not just "potheads" that want taxation and regulation of marijuana. It's time that are country looked at actual scientific research instead of the myths of pot that started from religion and racism. There is no good reason that an adult can't consent to use Marijuana. It's less harmful than alcohol or cigarettes. It's actually shown some success in lessening your chances of brain loss from alcohol. It's been proven that marijuana can shrink cancerous tumors. It's a wonderful, non addictive, pain reliever for people in severe pain. This is no longer an issue for just people who want to smoke pot. It's an issue for all of us. The boom to our economy from taxation and job formation would be wonderful. The savings that we would make from not prosecuting and jailing citizens of marijuana charges would be in the billions. Think of the ripples this would have. Think how many kids could go back to two parent households, when we stopped prosecuting pot crimes. Think how much our welfare system would save. It's ridiculous that pot is illegal. It's time the president stand up for the country, and quit only being concerned with the christian conservative vote. Even if he doesn't want to federally legalize, he shouldn't be negative about the states making that choice for themselves.
12:42 PM on 03/29/2009
"Even if he doesn't want to federally legalize, he shouldn't be negative about the states making that choice for themselves."

He wasn't.

Certainly not in his remarks at the online town hall.

Also, let's not forget he has made an effort to not interfere with state laws by calling off medical marijuana raids by the feds.

I think that last sentence in your comment is not accurate.

I'm for legalization. But, I'm also not naive about how politics work. The Right would LOVE to have a distraction like this, thus hurting Obama's chances of getting his economic agenda passed.

They're already going batsh*t about f**king teleprompters.
01:06 PM on 03/29/2009
DJ23 is right ... he's avoiding the issue so as not to have it used against his ambitious agenda. Its all politics right now.

You have to read between the lines. Eric Holder has already hinted at the policy position of this president and the states are busy taking matters into their own hands. The best Obama can do is leave the federal government out of state's marijuana policy for the time being.

Baby steps people ... baby steps. The discussion is now too loud for progress not to be made. Just stay active in your state government and pay no mind to the recent town hall meeting. If you read between the lines, you will find the real truth.

That real truth is that the federal government isnt going to take an official reversal on prohibition stand until many states have proven it to be successful and politically not poisonous to the administration in charge.

Give the guy a break, he's been in office like 67 days and already you've seen the DEA raiding medicinal marijuana providers cease and multiple bills and discussions brought to the table in state governments. Progress is atleast happening in the right direction, just be patient and active responsibly with your elected officials!
02:53 PM on 03/29/2009
Is he really calling off medical marijuana raids by the feds? There was another one in San Francisco a couple of days ago. Same DEA MO: smash and grab all the medicine and cash. No state law enforcement was involved, but the DEA claims that the clinic was somehow violating state law. Of course, their evidence isn't public record. If Holder really wanted to "call off " the feds, he could do it. He could simply say that the DEA will not raid ANY medical marijuana clinics and truly leave it up to the states to police themselves. Instead, he has said that the feds will only raid clinics that are in violation of both state and federal law. Guess what? ALL clinics are in violation of federal law. If they're in violation of state law, why not leave that to the states to deal with. He is NOT doing this so far. So don't be so sure that the policy has fundamentally changed.
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10:55 AM on 03/29/2009
I'm amazed at how many people are incensed that Obama is dismissing the prospect of legalization. First of all, let's be realistic. The majority of American are still AGAINST legalization. Obama knows that if he legalized marijuana is his first term, he wouldn't see a second. The Republicans and the majority of Americans who STILL support prohibition would throw him out of office and elect a Republican who would repeal any legislation passed to legalize it.

Second, legalization isn't going to happen at the federal level until anti-prohibition becomes the clear majority in public opinion. You're not going to hear a president or presidential candidate call for it until then. Legalization will take place at the grass-roots level. It'll happen city by city and state by state and when the majority of states have softened their stance on pot, THEN we can expect Washington to catch up to us. Let's cut the man some slack and see how things go in California and Massachusetts.
11:28 AM on 03/29/2009
Wrong. Recent zogby polling indicate that close to 60% of surveyed agree that it is time to legalize. The numbers from our own government - cannabis being the largest cash crop in the US - along with the seven decade failure to control cannabis make it all the more important to do this NOW not a generation or two down the road. And don't forget that we have the numbers to make this the number one issue should give the powers tobe some cause to think. Those of us who have been advocating for the legalization are strong and determined enough to see to it that tyhe current admin will have to address this contrary to your assertion that doing so will make Obama a one term president. Not addressing this issue and ending the war on cannabis is a certain way to be a one termer!
12:27 PM on 03/29/2009
I just watch a commercial about the negative aspects of smoking marijuana. I have yet to see a commercial in favor of it.

I think that more than any poll is a reflection of where the majority of Americans stand on this issue.

I have never smoked it. I'm in favor of legalization. But, I think Obama is wise to not get into this now. He needs to get is budget through and anything that distracts from that could jeopardize his ultimate goals.

It would be just the wedge issue that the Republicans thrived on in years past.

It would serve as a distraction from his economic agenda, which is much more important right now
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02:43 PM on 03/29/2009
That 60% is only on the west coast. Nationally, those in favor of legalization are only at about 44% according to Zogby. Just because a bunch of us mobbed Obama's online poll and made marijuana the #1 issue doesn't mean that's how the whole country feels; just the ones who use the internet frequently and care enough to find the poll and vote for it.

Btw, threatening to vote Obama out of office over this is asinine because the alternative would be a Republican president who would definitely be much less warm to the idea of legalization. How does this not occur to you people when you threaten to do that over this?
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01:40 AM on 03/29/2009
It's a drug !!!!!!!!

I don't want a Doctor who smokes it, A judge who ses it, a Lawyer, or a Surgeon who used the drug.
09:51 AM on 03/29/2009
And the country doesn't want lies, propaganda and a continuation of this failure. Legalizing cannabis does not make its use mandatory and not every one who advocates for its legalization will use it. Quite frankly, alcohol and cancerettes are legal, both infinitely more dangerous, yet they are both sold and advertised. As far as alcohol is concerned, didn't we try prohibition and how did that work for you?
11:49 AM on 03/29/2009
No It Is Not A Drug!!!!!!!!!!!!!

IT IS A PLANT!!!!
08:36 PM on 03/28/2009
I think he was probably reacting to the online questions. It was pretty incredible the way marijuana was suggested as a way out of almost every economic problem. And the votes did lean pretty high for the marijuana questions. I certainly did feel like it was the typical Obama supporter from the campaign.
11:26 PM on 03/28/2009
The joke is on Obama. For one he didn't address the question's main part...
"With over 1 out of 30 Americans controlled by the penal system, why not legalize, control, and tax marijuana to change the failed war on drugs into a money making, money saving boost to the economy? Do we really need that many victimless criminals?"
and second he contradicts his own government's assertion that cannabis is the largest cash crop, albeit illegal. So explain how sensible regulation and taxation would not benefit the country. Third, from medical cannabis alone there would be millions for the states, not to mention the savings of 25 billion dollars per year going to the often privately operated prison system. 72 years of failure at diminishing druguse has been a colossal failure with the only winners the special interests and the losers the over 20 million incarcerated over the years and most importantly the taxpayers who have for over seven decades been forced to waste over half a trillion dollars on the war on cannabis alone!
Call us typical all you want. We do have the votes and we do have the right for this to be addressed now and for once let the truth and science dictate direction and not the moral inferiority who thinks prohibition has solved anything.
05:37 PM on 03/28/2009
I voted for the cannabis legalization questions. In response, I offer this advice to my fellow citizens.
1) only vote for candidates that support marijuana legalization
2) write all your state representatives urging them to legalize marijuana
3) participate in and organize protest
09:54 AM on 03/29/2009
Absolutely! And as this forum and our online efforts are concerned, we have the numbers. The time for legalization is now! Come election time it will be too late. If the current crop of politicians wants to continue to pander to speccial interests they will lose votes and hopefully end up looking for work.
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12:22 PM on 03/28/2009
Thank you for helping us move a little closer to sanity and reality.
02:24 PM on 03/28/2009
Let's give Obama some time and some slack.
IF
1. The DEA stops raids on medical marijuana clubs, and
2. Prescriptions are easy to get (anxiety? stress? That's what it takes in CA),

Then hasn't Obama basically made marijuana a states rights issue?

You cannot expect a new president to come out for legalizing drugs in their first sixty days in office. We have to convince him to do it, or wait for the second term. Lets just go state by state until we get 50. Obama could make it easier on us, but that might make it harder for him to get a second term.
04:12 PM on 03/28/2009
No more Slack! this has been going on too long. And please, nobody expects the President to micro manage this. The question he was asked, by the way, was this"

"With over 1 out of 30 Americans controlled by the penal system, why not legalize, control, and tax marijuana to change the failed war on drugs into a money making, money saving boost to the economy? Do we really need that many victimless criminals?"

The war on drugs part of the question, THE IMPORTANT PART, was ignored and the answer phrased to deny the very fact the government has been making all along:
CANNABIS IS THE LARGEST CASH CROP IN THE US, yet to laugh it off and make a joke out of the truth is patently disrespectful to those of us who have worked on this for so long as well as every American tax payer whose money has been deliberately wasted for 72 years since the Marihuana Tax Act of 1937, some estimates putting the total at well over half a trillion cannabis relarted alone!
As stated; nobody expects the President to micromanage. What we do expect is that this is addressed in a factual basis now. There are plenty of people willing and able to work on this and the time is NOW, not later!
03:10 PM on 03/29/2009
Ah, but he hasn't made it a states' rights issue, at least not yet. Holder announced that the DEA would continue to raid clinics if they were in violation of both state and federal law. Since they are ALL in violation of federal law, what he is saying is that the feds will now be enforcing state law. Doesn't sound like states' rights to me. . .not even a little bit. They raided a clinic in San Francisco a couple days ago under the new policy. No state law enforcement was involved in the raid. They claim they have evidence of state law violation, but, of course, they won't share it with anyone. Sorry, folks, but this doesn't sound like change I can believe in. It sounds like double talk meant to appease those who support states' rights while continuing to assert federal control.
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11:39 AM on 03/28/2009
As the fresh coat of political paint wears off of this new president...we who are not surprised are finding Obama looking just like another political puppet....and serving the corp.govt wishes. Obama is on the wrong side of history on this matter and already wrong on healthcare....let's keep the system that doesn't work...and lower the prices for the poor.The part of the system that does work is they are making healthy money...and they'll not give that up for a real national healthcare system in which the public can become healthy...and not lose their homes when sickness lets the vultures(insurance co.)attack again and again.
Drug war is criminal....there are more drug dealers than Starbucks in any given location. Gee our taxes are funding corrupt criminals in both houses...they've given us up to the medical insurance industry...wall street...banks....and only the corrupt can afford to run for office...sweet america!
07:47 AM on 03/29/2009
"Sweet America!" -- Yes, from the very beginning, from the moment that the Puritans stepped onto Plymouth Rock this nation has been in hands of Manichean moral missionaries. There is a profound connection between our troops fighting in that Middle East religious cesspool (the "War on Terror") and the other war, the "War on Drugs". What can be done? Well, just tell that thin-skinned and short-tempered tribal God, Jehovah, or Jahweh, or whatever a.k.a. he is going under, to bug off. If you notice, both the Puritains and the present-day Evangelicals, are fixated upon the jealous "God of the Old Testament" -- who is NOT the triune God (Father/Son/Holy Ghost) of the New Testament. Be a Christian -- be, as the Muslims know -- a polytheist. Avoid that Manichean "Lord of Hosts" who had Joshua kill off all the folks who got into his way (as the Puritans did).
10:16 AM on 03/28/2009
What Obama said is that legalizing and taxing pot isn't a good economic strategy. Based on his support of the California initiative I'm not sure he thinks it's a bad idea all around.

People, try thinking beyond the immediate issue. The President is fighting to get a budget through Congress is adding legalization of pot to the agenda going to do anything good? Most likely result would be that the Republicans would jump on the issue as a way of slamming the president and shutting down the possibility of legalization for years!
10:36 AM on 03/28/2009
Absolutely. Im all for legalization but this is something we should look for in his second term.
12:45 PM on 03/28/2009
freedom should never have to 'wait'.
12:44 PM on 03/28/2009
blah blah blah. there are many repubs who support legalization. u r sheep. it is one of the few issues with support from all sides. as it should be. it is a failed policy that obamma supports. he owns it now.
09:21 AM on 03/28/2009
I have been reading that some of you folks think it is too early in Obama's presidency to consider repealing prohibition of marijuana; whether it be for re-election, or to just test the waters... this is an absolutely ridiculous assertion, may i remind you that the man many of you are comparing him to in a similar situation, FDR, was the guy who repealed the failed alcohol prohibition after being in office for LESS THAN A MONTH. FDR inherited the Great Depression, and still felt that removing the 18th amendment made sense in a time when we had double digit unemployment. Also may I add as a side note, a number of renowned economists, including conservative (and Nobel Laureate) Milton Friedman, agree that legalization makes far better economics sense than prohibition.
08:57 AM on 03/28/2009
Legalization of marijuana may sound funny. Making fun of those bringing it up is an easy way to get a quick laugh.
Consider for a moment.
There are individuals who have had their possessions and land seized. Their lives destroyed and freedom taken because of their choices concerning marijuana.
Much of this due to the assault on individual choice and liberty based on the insane concept of marijuana being a "gateway" drug to harder drugs.
When I have gone to a liquor store to purchase my favorite adult beverage I have never had the individual at the cash register offer to sell me some cocaine, methamphetamine, heroin or LSD with my vodka, whiskey, beer or tequila.
Marijuana is a "gateway" drug only because it is illegal.
Were it legalized and regulated there would be additional tax income from cultivation, licensing, packaging and sale. Quality would increase and marijuana laced with dangerous additives would decrease.
But rather than have a serious discussion go for the laugh President Obama.
Now you can look good to the mindless too.