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Posted March 5, 2009 | 03:08 PM (EST)

Breaking News: District of Columbia Residents Have Second Amendment Rights


In a landmark 5-4 opinion written by Justice Antonin Scalia, the U.S. Supreme Court has defined an individual Second Amendment right to own a gun for self defense in the home.

After the decision, the National Rifle Association's Wayne LaPierre said, "This is a great moment in American history.... The Second Amendment as an individual right now becomes a real permanent part of American Constitutional law."

The plaintiff in the case was District of Columbia resident Dick Anthony Heller. As a result of his triumph, he won the right to register his handgun with the local police department.

In fact, he has already done so, calling his handgun registration "Victory!"

All right. At this point you've figured out that this isn't really "breaking news." As most of you know, the Heller decision was handed down last June and Mr. Heller registered his gun a few weeks later in August 2008.

Yet it bears repeating to get the attention of some members of Congress being herded by the shepherds at the National Rifle Association in a bill now pending in Congress.

For the first time in American history, residents of the District of Columbia could get the right to have a voting member in the U.S. House of Representatives. Unfortunately, the NRA is holding that bill hostage with a killer amendment that would strip the District's elected officials of their ability to regulate the ownership and sale of guns to protect the public.

How do they justify robbing DC residents of the right to make their own gun laws as the price for finally giving them the right to a voting member in Congress? According to the NRA's top lobbyist Chris Cox, it is "to restore the Second Amendment rights to lawful residents of the District of Columbia."

I have news for Mr. Cox and those members of Congress stuck in the crook of his shepherd's staff: District of Columbia residents already have Second Amendment rights.

Justice Antonin Scalia, speaking for the Supreme Court, said they did last June. What's more, the plaintiff in that case and other DC residents are exercising their rights.

What's really of concern to the NRA is that Justice Scalia handed down a measured decision that specifically endorsed some restrictions on who gets guns; what kind of guns they can get; how guns are sold, carried and stored; and where guns can be restricted.

What the NRA can't abide is the idea that the Second Amendment and common-sense gun control are now compatible with each other, instead of the false choice they've long portrayed them to be.

While Justice Scalia defined the Second Amendment as an individual right, at the same time he clearly stated that a raft of gun control laws were also "presumptively lawful," and that the list of examples he provided was "not ... exhaustive." That happens to be exactly where American voters stand on the issue.

Members of Congress flocking together under the watchful NRA eye should look at the election results in 2008 and 2006, and ask themselves if it's really worth paying for their blessing in the first place.

And such Members should save the District and the country any moralizing about "Second Amendment rights," because it's clearly a non-issue in this bill.

Simply put, duly elected officials of the District of Columbia should have the power to make reasonable gun laws, subject to the Supreme Court's definition, that their residents want to help keep them safe.

It is wrong for Congress to exact one democratic principle as the price for granting another, particularly when the courts have already shown their willingness to deal with the issue of gun rights and gun control.

(Note to readers: This entry, along with past entries, has been co-posted on bradycampaign.org/blog and the Huffington Post.)

 
 
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03:54 AM on 03/18/2009
jimtom...someone may have asked this already so i apologize ahead of time...if i steal a cops holster will it work until his heart stops beating...or can i cut off his hand and take it with me....and even if the gun doesn't work how does this prevent the ammo from being used...guns are not complicated...physics and chemistry....
11:54 AM on 03/17/2009
JImtom--in terms of having to use government agencies to set up the authorized users in the smart gun technology--what is to prevent notoriously antigun agencies like the LAPD, the DC police or the Chicago PD from setting a schedule of once a month from 1 to1:30AM on the 5th Saturday of month in a skidrow storefront with no parking?
12:07 PM on 03/17/2009
The wording of the legislation.
03:24 PM on 03/17/2009
In Illinois, the State Police, by law, have 30 days to issue a FOID card. Currently it is taking two to six months with many people only receiving them after having to contact their legislators.

Tell me again how legislation will stop them?
03:33 PM on 03/17/2009
If the legislation passes in Illinois, DC or California--count on the more antigun PDs and SDs coming up with as much BS as possible--I am sure you are aware that DC is being sued AGAIN because of how blatant they are about the registration. Also--I checked back to the last time you were on this dumbgun push--you never did explain why the technology should not be proven in LEO holsters first. ALso in terms of reliability--there are very few areas of this country where people will not be wearing gloves part of the year--I have worked enough graveyard shifts outside here in Los Angeles to know that gloves are needed everywhere--and for firearrms not to function because a CCW holder or armed guard is wearing gloves is unacceptable--if nothing else because if the criminals knew that gloves would keep the firearms from working--smart criminals will target people wearing gloves--and even 1 or 2% is quite a few people.
11:34 PM on 03/16/2009
With all the talk about criminals stealing guns from homes, I'd like to mention, that we have a gun safe. When we're not home, all the guns go in it. Nothing will be stolen out of here.
04:40 PM on 03/18/2009
when I leave home, at least one gun is with me. But I live in the parts of the country that are still relatively free...
08:45 PM on 03/16/2009
Casey, as violent as New Orlean's might be, that doesn't prove anything. Chicago is a disaster, with a handgun ban. You can hear gunfire in Chicago every night. I don't live there, thank god, but this is what others have mentioned.
01:59 AM on 03/16/2009
Jimtom--you have yet to answer 2 very reasonable questions:first, will I be able to pass on the handguns I currently own to my nephews under your first choice dumb gun law (and 2nd, how are they to be compensated if I can not--since firearms are real property with real value, if I can not bequeath them to any heir I chose that is legally able to own firearms (or will be when they come of age) how are they to be compensated since that would be confiscation in at least an ethical sense); and second, how about testing your system in police use before mandating for civilians.
07:58 AM on 03/16/2009
the argument pertaining to the second question has been hashed out on the blog before; the answer to your first question is "above my pay grade", I already stated that it's a fair question. Each State where biometric only legislation is considered, or the Feds, will need to come up with an answer.
12:14 PM on 03/16/2009
In regards to the reliability issues--if the technology is not reliable enough to mandate for police holsters nationwide--it is not reliable enough to mandate for civilians and you have yet to answer why dumbgun technology should NOT be proven first in police holsters. In terms of the questions of salability and inheritability--if current handguns can only be held by the current owners--it is nothing more than a delayed confiscation scheme.
09:46 PM on 03/15/2009
Casey, let me post this again, in 1968 the U.S Supreme Court ruled that felons do not have to register their guns, because it violates their 5th Amendment rights against self incrimination. So tell me again how licensing and registration will stop a criminal from doing anything?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haynes_v._United_States
10:12 AM on 03/15/2009
We all know how effective the handgun ban is in Chicago.......500 homicides last year, the most violent city in the U.S. Why are we talking about gun bans anyway? Since the Heller decision came, its a pipe dream, not gonna happen.
11:16 AM on 03/15/2009
Actually, New Orleans is the most violent city in the US. And they have few, if any, gun laws.

Hmm.

And take a look at NYC--number 259 on the list.

http://os.cqpress.com/citycrime/CityCrime2008_Rank_Rev.pdf
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11:52 PM on 03/15/2009
You seem to have missed the fact that Camden NJ is #2 on the list. Do you know pf any state that has more gun control laws than NJ? Oh that's right. You said there are no laws regulating who can buy, sell, or use guns.

And oh look! Detroit is #3. Lot's of gun control in Michigan too.

Proof once again that gun control has no effect on crime.

Thanks for the link, Jade.
12:54 PM on 03/15/2009
I can't speak for anyone else, but I never mentioned or suggested a gun ban. I do think a combination of technology (biometric handguns -- and guys, there's no reason to hash out the debate we've already had over them again, you've made your points, I've made mine -- you'll continue to fight against their development and mandate, I'll continue to support their development and mandate) and legislation, such as the DeSaulnier bill in California, can reduce accidental and "stranger on stranger" gun fatalities in the U.S. without a significant loss of "deterrence" from the self-defense aspect of gun ownership.
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02:00 PM on 03/15/2009
By supporting smart gun laws, as they exist, you are supporting a gun ban. Such laws ban 100% of handguns currently on the market. NJ already has such a law in place.
08:06 PM on 03/15/2009
JImtom--as a way of testing the dumbgun techology you are so fond of--how about giving them a test in LEO holsters for say 10 years before mandating them for civilians. Also how about giving the civilians the CHOICE--if the buyer does not want the technology--the buyer does not need to buy the technology. Also, once this is mandated--will I have the option of passing what I own to my heirs or won't I--and if I can not pass them on, how will my heirs be compensated?
12:25 AM on 03/15/2009
Well jimtom, you certainly have you're facts to try and make your case, but like Mike said, from '97 to '04, violent crime skyrocketed in Britain. None of this matters anyway, I'm a born and bred gun owner, NRA member, 2nd Amendment advocate. Just so you know, there are 80-100 million gun owners in this country, standing in the way of you're agenda.

Wanna know why the NRA is so effective? Because they have loyal, average hard working members, who write $50, $100, even $1000 checks to them, because they believe in the cause. This is called grass-root's activism. Its far more effective than some elitist like George Soros writing million dollar checks to the Brady Campaign. We are also the ones who flood Senator's and Congressman's telephones and email, vote for gun control bill we don't like, start looking for a job in 2 years, or 6 years for Senators. I'm confident we can kill a new AWB with this tactic. I'm willing to bet, NRA membership outnumbers Brady membership by at least 5:1.
05:34 PM on 03/15/2009
Hmmm. If the NRA is so effective, why did the $40+M they spent on GOP candidates in the last election cycle wind up with so many GOP losses?

If the NRA is so effective, why does every poll show a majority of Americans support:

1. more gun laws? (54%)
2. registration of guns? (79%)
3. requiring a waiting period on gun purchases? (86%)
4. limiting the number of guns someone can own? (51%)
5. preventing certain poeople from owning guns? (88%)
6. forbidding the sale of assault weapons? (67%)
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09:15 PM on 03/15/2009
If every poll says what you say it says, why didn't you bring one?
09:34 PM on 03/14/2009
jimtom, are you basically saying that its just a matter of time, before I turn criminal with my guns? If so, I find that statement deeply offensive and absurd. I've been a gun owner/shooter for 22 years now, I and my guns haven't shot anyone, unless my life is directly threatened, they never will.
11:54 PM on 03/14/2009
That's not what I'm saying at all. What I do say is that every American who legally buys a gun and owns them without incident can make exactly the same assertion. But in a country where there are 50 million handguns owned by 30 million people even a tiny, tiny percentage of legal gun owners who turn criminal results in a huge number of homicides by firearms.

Moreover, when Britain and Australia all but banned private ownership of working handguns homicide numbers and rates by firearms went down. And even if "violent" crime went up, which I acknowledge it did in Britain, the overall homicide rate still went down. Criminals didn't simply turn to other means of killing to make up the slack. Their overall homicide rates are also much lower than ours.

I don't think legal handgun owners buy handguns with the intent of killing. But we're all human. We can all do things under duress that we didn't think we'd ever do. And too often, over 5,000 times a year that means an American armed with a handgun will kill somebody they know, and over 2,000 times a year Americans will use handguns to kill perfect strangers. So I'm questioning whether handgun ownership makes us safer overall. There were fewer than 60 murders by firearms in Britain last year. There were fewer than 60 murders by firearms in Australia last year. Correct for population and there would be fewer than 500 in each compared to our 7,000.
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08:10 AM on 03/15/2009
"And too often, over 5,000 times a year that means an American armed with a handgun will kill somebody they know, and over 2,000 times a year Americans will use handguns to kill perfect strangers."

How many of the 5000 are the result of illegal gang and drug activity? Most of them, by far. How is depriving the law abiding citizen of his 2nd Amendment rights going to change that? It isn't. It didn't work in DC, and it's failing almost as miserably in Chicago.

How many of the 2000 "perfect strangers" were attempting to commit a violent crime against the shooter, or intruded into the shooter's home?

It's common for the anti-gunn crowd to feel that they do not trust themselves with a gun, so they project this untrustworthiness on to everyone else. You can't deny 80-100,000,000 people their rights because of what a relative handful 'might' do.
"And even if "violent" crime went up, which I acknowledge it did in Britain, the overall homicide rate still went down."

So what? If someone comes at me with a knife, or a baseball bat, I have a right to use the most effective means of protection at my disposal, like a gun.
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02:40 PM on 03/15/2009
"Moreover, when Britain and Australia all but banned private ownership of working handguns homicide numbers and rates by firearms went down. And even if "violent" crime went up, which I acknowledge it did in Britain, the overall homicide rate still went down. "

The overall homicide rates remained basically unchanged.
08:07 PM on 03/14/2009
jimtom, you do realize that Great Britain has ONE QUARTER of the population of the U.S. This is apples to oranges comparison.
08:55 PM on 03/14/2009
I controlled for the population difference. That's why I cited incidents per thousand people. And actually, Great Britain has One-Sixth the population as the United States, not One-Fourth. However, the figured cited is just for England and Wales, they calculate Scotland's and Northern Ireland's crime statistics separately. But including them won't help your case, I'm afraid. In mid-2007 through mid-2008 there were FOUR murders in which a firearm was the cause of death in Scotland.

"The use of firearms in criminal activity continued to constitute only a small proportion of all offences recorded by the police in 2007-08; 3 per cent of recorded homicides (4 offences), 5 per cent of recorded attempted murders (33 offences), and 2 per cent of recorded robberies (61 offences). In each of the remaining three categories, less than 0.7 per cent of offences involved the alleged use of a firearm" Source: Statistical BulletinCrime and Justice Series: Recorded Crimes Involving Firearms: Government of Scotland, March, 2009
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09:07 PM on 03/14/2009
Violent crime in England and Wales leveled off after 2004. From 1997 to 2004 it took off like a rocket.
11:38 AM on 03/14/2009
jimtom, how do you propose I defend myself, in my home, staring down an intruder? Do I just cower, beg for my life and say "take whatever you want"? I don't think so! If someone forcibly enters my home, they will be staring down the barrel of a gun. Also, I live 16 MILES from the nearest Sheriff's office, which puts them about 20 minutes away, could be even longer. If someone targets me out here, I'm on my own, that's why I keep a pistol in the nightstand. Hopefully you can understand where I'm coming from here.

The same thing applies on the street, I have a legal right to defend myself and there is no better tool than a handgun. In 98% of cases, the gun is never fired, the mere presentation of a gun will cause most criminals to flee. They seek targets of opportunity, least resistance.

I grew up around guns, I learned to shoot at 10 years old. Guns are an awesome hobby, stress reliever, and just plain fun. I have no criminal intent, I was raised with proper morals and values, respect for authority, and a firm grasp of consequences. If I want an AR-15, I should be allowed to own one, I'm no threat to anybody, except the violent criminals.

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05:46 PM on 03/14/2009
"I grew up around guns...Guns are a... stress reliever, and just plain fun. I have no criminal intent, I was raised with proper morals and values, respect for authority, and a firm grasp of consequences....I'm no threat to anybody...."

As I've said before, everyone who legally owns a gun and has never used it illegally, is by definition, not a criminal, at least when it comes to guns. However, the instant he/she uses the gun in an illegal fashion, whether it is to murder one person, or 10, or 32. They become a criminal. Then the legal gun owners say, "...just another case of a criminal using firearms illegally...why should my right to own any kind of gun I want be regulated?" Perfect answer. Except to all the dead people and their loved ones.

The per capita murder and non negligent HOMICIDE rate, by every means, in the United States in 2007 was .059 per 1000 people according to the FBI. It was .015 per 1000 people in Australia and .014 in Great Britain in 2007, or four times what it is in the U.S. per capita, according to NationMaster.com. Now I suppose that if gun ownership rates in the U.S. per capita were the same as these two countries we might make up the slack by increasing the number of homicides committed with weapons other than guns, but I kind of doubt it.
02:09 AM on 03/16/2009
England's crime rates were lower than here in the U S BEFORE the gun legislation passed so it is not surprising it is still lower. In terms of lethallity--I guess you have not checked out what a kukri or original bowie (the ones with a 10 to 12 inch heavy blade) will do
05:54 PM on 03/15/2009
let's reword PGA's rant a bit:

jimtom, how do you propose I defend myself, in my home, staring down an intruder? Do I just cower, beg for my life and say "take whatever you want"? I don't think so! If someone forcibly enters my home, they will be staring down the barrel of a gun. Also, I live 16 MILES from the nearest Sheriff's office, which puts them about 20 minutes away, could be even longer. If someone targets me out here, I'm on my own, that's why I keep a pistol in the nightstand. Hopefully you can understand where I'm coming from here.

The same thing applies on the street, I have a legal right to defend myself and there is no better tool than a handgun. In 98% of cases, the gun is never fired, the mere presentation of a gun will cause most criminals to flee. Of course, I have no references to back up this claim whatsoever.They seek targets of opportunity, least resistance.

I grew up around guns, I learned to shoot at 10 years old. Guns are an awesome hobby, stress reliever, and just plain fun. I have no criminal intent, I was raised with proper morals and values, respect for authority, and a firm grasp of consequences. If I want a 55 gallon drum of Sarin, I should be allowed to own one, I'm no threat to anybody, except the violent criminals.
10:05 AM on 03/14/2009
djkrlsn asked "..document when disarming VICTIMS has stopped a crime." According to the British Home Office from mid-2007 through mid-2008 there were 9,803 offenses with firearms in England and Wales. An increase of 2% over the previous year. There were 52 murders with firearms in the same period, compared to 56 in 06-07. So very few people who were victims of crimes involving firearms were killed. 52 murders translates to about .004/1000 people.

In Australia, according to NationMaster, firearms were only used in 13% of all murders in Australia in 2007. They reported 59 murders by firearms, or .003/1000 people.

By contrast, there were 9,369 murders using firearms in the U.S. in 2007, or .028/1000 according to the FBI.

One hypothesis: The more guns there are floating around in the population, the likelihood that someone, on a per capita basis, will get shot and killed, increases. There are 50 million or more handguns in the U.S., thieves steal roughly 200,000 a year from homes, persons, gun shops, so we go out and buy more guns for self-defense, the criminals steal 'em again, so we go out and buy more guns.... Who's safer from murder by firearms? The people of Great Britain and Austraila.
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11:11 AM on 03/14/2009
Jimtom, hee's what happened to violent crime in the British Commonwealth after they banned guns (England in '97).

http://www.aic.gov.au/publications/cfi/cfi115.html - scroll down for graph.

It's gotten so bad, they had to ban pocket knives and swords. There is proposed legislation that would ban large cooking knives.

They put remote security cameras all over the country, so the gangbangers started wearing hoodies. Now they are trying to ban those.

"Who's safer from murder by firearms? The people of Great Britain and Austraila." jimtom

Is a person less dead when they are murdered with a knife (or a Cricket bat)?

As you have just seen, violent crime is rising faster in your gun-free Utopias than it is here.
07:58 PM on 03/15/2009
England has always had a lower homocide rate than the U S
08:55 PM on 03/13/2009
Given the recent statements by Pelosi and Reid, concerning a new AWB, they have pretty much thrown cold water on the idea. Harry Reid comes from the gun owning state of Nevada and is up for re-election in 2010. I hope Pelosi and Reid stick by their statements, if they give the Brady Campaign the stiff arm, that would be awesome. We won't see anything before 2010, the Brady's can cry and moan all they want, but what are they going to do? Vote them out of office? I doubt it.
06:00 PM on 03/13/2009
Casey, what are you talking about? There are about 20,000 gun laws currently on the books. Why don't we try enforcing those first, instead of just writing more laws that criminals will dis-regard anyway.
06:27 PM on 03/13/2009
There are about 20,000 gun laws currently on the books.

No, there are not.

http://www.brookings.edu/es/urban/publications/gunbook4.pdf

Again, there are far more laws regulating alcohol than guns. And let's face facts, much of the damage done by alcoholics is to themselves. Unfortunately, misuse of guns tends to affect innocent parties.
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06:53 PM on 03/13/2009
But you said there were NO laws. So PGA is much more in touch with reality, or much more honest.

"Again, there are far more laws regulating alcohol than guns. And let's face facts, much of the damage done by alcoholics is to themselves. Unfortunately, misuse of guns tends to affect innocent parties.

"And let's face facts" (translation- I am about to pull something out of the air). Have you ever faced a fact in your life? How many laws are there regulating alcohol consumption, othert than the fact that you have to be 21 to imbibe?

Alcohol is misused far more frequently than guns are, and often affects innocent parties. I guess you've never heard of anyone being killed by a drunk driver, even though it happens several times a day.

Why do you waste everyone's time with baloney like this?
09:53 PM on 03/13/2009
So when a drunk driver plows into a family of five and kills them all, that only effects drunk guy?
10:16 PM on 03/12/2009
I also take issue with the logic, that because one guy flipped out and went on a rampage, that gun ownership should be denied to everyone. My response : 10% of the population can't handle beer responsibly, but we don't deny people beer. Also, since the Supreme Court affirmed gun ownership as an individual right, civilian disarmament will never happen, its off the table. You might as well stop advocating for it.

I predict, that despite this incident, Obama's not going to push the AWB, he doesn't want that political fight, this early in his term.
05:13 PM on 03/13/2009
PGA:

Fact is, nobody has advocated civilian disamament. Never.

It's an NRA ploy to scare rubes, such as yourself, into giving them money.\

WRT beer--we do have more regulations as to who can sell beer and who can buy it. We also have laws as to who may consume beer.

OTOH, firearms are far more dangerous--there are no laws regulating who can buy, sell or use firearms.
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06:17 PM on 03/13/2009
"OTOH, firearms are far more dangerous--there are no laws regulating who can buy, sell or use firearms."~ Jadegold

You've got to be kidding.

Fact is, there are about 2000 gun laws on the books in this country (probably half of them are in NJ alone) regulating who can buy, sell, and use firearms.

It's a BC/VPC ploy to scare rubes, such as yourself, into giving them money.

Jade, do you sincerely believe there are people reading this who are dumb enough to believe you?
10:37 AM on 03/14/2009
"-there are no laws regulating who can buy, sell or use firearms." Jadegold

Jade, I do believe that is the most absurd, and blatantly false statement I've ever read on the internet. You have truly outdone yourself. Kudos.

I don't suppose you've ever heard of the Gun Control Act of 1968. That's where it all started. Ever hear of the NRA backed Brady Background Check? Now we have hundreds or thousands (as in lots and lots) more gun laws.

You must not have much faith in the intelligence of the average human, huh?