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Dear Religious (And Sane) America

Posted: 02/24/10 10:17 AM ET

Dear Religious (and sane) America,

Come out, come out where ever you are and welcome to HuffPost Religion -- your new home for opinions, news and wisdom from across the religious spectrum. HuffPost Religion is dedicated to providing a provocative, respectful, and hopefully productive forum for addressing the ways in which religion intersects our personal, communal, national and international life. HuffPost Religion will demonstrate the vibrant diversity of religious traditions, perspectives and experiences that exist alongside and inform one another in America and throughout the world.

For too long strident voices on the religious right have become synonymous with the influence of religion in the public sphere, and they have been countered by equally strident voices on the atheist side who denigrate religious people and their traditions. HuffPost Religion hopes to offer a sane middle way for people who wish to approach religion with both heart and mind, and who believe we can have disagreements without demonization. HuffPost Religion will provide a more accurate representation of the wide range of concerns held by religious people, and dispel the myth that religious people have only one stance on the controversial issues of the day such as health care, immigration, abortion and gay rights. Throughout history, religious people have been on the front lines of many civil rights issues; and even the separation of church and state was a principle insisted upon by Baptists to protect religious freedom (a blatant shout out to my own denomination).

Wherever you stand on the merits of religion, or whatever your personal religious practice -- there is no question that religion plays a crucial role in how humans make meaning, create community, act politically, and find mandates for how to live a good life. HuffPost Religion is dedicated to providing a provocative yet respectful forum for how religion is and should be functioning.

Now for some, the very fact that HuffPost has a religion section will be a source of surprise, or even dismay. A response from grumpyfarmer 33 to a post I wrote about moving your money says it well:

"Now I have seen it all, the Huff post asking what would be the correct thing to do from a religious standpoint. I absolutely agree with the author, but cannot believe I am seeing this on the Huff post."

Well, grumpy -- believe it. Religion is not new on the Huffington Post. There have been over 100 excellent writers, clergy and academics who have regularly covered religion over the past years on Huffington Post. The "religious standpoint" clearly has a lot to say about the world, and provides a unique, and often absent perspective to any conversation. Some HuffPost regulars will find all this talk about religion irrelevant, but according to recent census data 87 percent of Americans describe themselves as religious. To leave that many Americans out of the conversation is to have a narrow scope indeed, and is a fatal political calculation. I expect some of the most interesting conversations will be between people who are theists and atheists, and that will be great! But please, let's be civil. As a start, it would help if religious people acknowledge that non-religious people can be moral, and if atheist people would acknowledge that religious people can be intelligent. Hopefully these truisms will become evident as HuffPost Religion provides a way for people to hear from one another.

So consider yourself invited to participate by blogging, commenting, reflecting and acting upon what you see on HuffPost Religion. We are in a crucial time. As my friend Eboo Patel from the Interfaith Youth Core, and new blogger on HuffPost Religion, has said: "The 20th century was focused on the question of race; the 21st century must be focused on the question of religion." The question of religion requires that we increase our knowledge of people who are different than ourselves in terms of religious practice and belief. That includes interfaith relations as well as intra faith dialogue -- which can be even more difficult.

We must talk about religion, because to not talk about it leaves the conversation to those who only emphasize conflict between religions, or who use religion as a device to incite, divide or destroy. Yet religion, when at its best, can be a source of great strength, motivation and insight. I look forward to being a part of this conversation with you and welcome your thoughts and suggestions. You can reach me at praushenbush@huffingtonpost.com.

Peace,
Paul Brandeis Raushenbush
Religion Editor
Huffington Post

 
 
 

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Dear Religious (and sane) America, Come out, come out where ever you are and welcome to HuffPost Religion -- your new home for opinions, news and wisdom from across the religious spectrum. HuffPost...
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Aodhan51
Call me Aodhan51; Ishmael was taken...
11:22 AM on 04/14/2010
I wish people would do a little research before they comment on this topic. Pedophilia is NOT about homosexuality, celibacy, or the Easter Bunny. Pedophilia is a deviant behavioral problem, which stands on its own and that crosses all gender, economic, religious/non-religious, and social lines. According to most research, incidents of pedophilia are estimated to be about 4 percent in the RC church and as high as 10 percent in the general population. This is far from a church-only problem. This is a huge societal issue that needs to be addressed across the whole human spectrum.
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marycp
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12:52 PM on 03/12/2010
You said:

We must talk about religion, because to not talk about it leaves the conversation to those who only emphasize conflict between religions, or who use religion as a device to incite, divide or destroy. Yet religion, when at its best, can be a source of great strength, motivation and insight.

For a while I had a blog on religious freedom, but soon realized that God wanted me, personally, to get off the debate/controversy wagon and get on the journey of sharing my life. Born with less than 7% use of one arm and 3% use of the other, along with confined to a motorized wheelchair, I can easily covet societal conflicts regarding religion--instead of stepping forward to share fresh glimpses into non-political experiences with Christ.

Thank you for your dynamite post!
Mary Cox-Pace
08:27 PM on 03/02/2010
Religion seems to help humans to feel special, the rest of living organism are content to live and die.
02:20 PM on 03/01/2010
Now the Panchen Lama Joins the CCCP Central Communits Committee Top Advisory Board

11th Panchen Lama becomes member of China's top advisory body
March 01, 2010
The 11th Panchen Lama Bainqen Erdini Qoigyijabu was among 13 people who on Sunday became new members of the National Committee of the Chinese People's Political Consultative Conference (CPPCC), the country's top advisory body.

Interesting development! A Think Tank Arises In The East!

Political advisors discuss draft work report of China's top political advisory body

Senior political advisors on Saturday discussed and put forward proposals to improve a draft work report for China's top political advisory body.

Members of the the Standing Committee of the National Committee of the Chinese People's Political Consultative Conference (CPPCC), China's top advisory body, attended group discussions on the report.

Jia Qinglin, chairman of the CPPCC National Committee and member of the Standing Committee of the Communist Party of China (CPC) Central Committee Political Bureau, was present at the discussion.


CPPCC had united and mobilized non-communist parties, social organizations, ethnic groups and people from all walks of life to strive for development, improve people's livelihood and promote social harmony last year.""



""The CPPCC committees at different levels have representatives from different political groups, ethnic groups, and people of all walks of life."
Dorje Shugden has Become the Protector of the People's Republic of China
07:40 AM on 03/01/2010
"...but according to recent census data 87 percent of Americans describe themselves as religious."

Eighty-seven percent of Americans are Deists, like the Founding Fathers? I wonder how many are "Christian"?
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ProfessorDuh
08:13 AM on 03/01/2010
I'm afraid most people fall into Kohlberg's middle category of "conventional" in moral practice, meaning that they merely do what other people do and say what they think is expected of them. If the majority of Americans said they were atheists, so would they. In either case, their assertion would have no meaning concerning their underlying view of the world and the nature of reality.
06:01 AM on 03/01/2010
"Dear Religious (and sane) America".

Is the title meant to imply that ALL people that are "religious" are sane, regardless of their belief? The 911 perpetrators were very "religious", yet clearly insane for believing that they would be hanging out with 72 virgins for their murderous self-sacrifice.

If those same men had NOT done the Twin Towers (private citizens), but had, instead, launched laser guided missiles at the Pentagon from a mile high jet fighter (thinking that their Messiah would bless them with an eternity in Heaven when they eventually died of old age), would that have been "sane"?
10:02 AM on 03/01/2010
Of course that's not what it means. It is addressing those Christians who are religious AND sane. I'm pretty sure the 9/11 highjackers don't fall into that category.
10:54 AM on 03/01/2010
It was satire, with a hint of sarcasm. Note that I said... "yet clearly insane for believing". It's an alegorical question about the "sanity" of killing thousands of innocents, from a mile up, by a warrior with Christ on his side. I'm deeply conflicted about pro-active war, in foreign lands, even by "Christian soldiers". I'm just trying to wrap my head around the paradigm. It's a totally perplexing moral question - especially when you through in the Bush>Cheney>Limbaugh>Beck>Hannity>Palin>Rand>Objectivist agenda into the mix.
01:35 AM on 03/01/2010
Only in the last couple of decades has this virulent shove it down your throat religons come into fashion. I grew up in a much different time when it was considered ILL MANNERED to discuss your religious beliefs, (or your political beliefs in social settings.) My protestant church even in the50's and 60's was quite open to other beliefs, and our confirmation class attended several different church/temple services, and it was active on Eccumenical councils.
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TheSojourner
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02:21 AM on 03/01/2010
I was always tolerant of religions. I went to churches and Synagogues with my religious friends, always respecting their beliefs. Not one of them tried to proselytize me, ever. It has only been recently that there are some eager to try to shove their beliefs down everybody else's throat. They keep trying to turn this country into a theocracy, in spite of our constitution. The one that advocates the separation of church and state very definitely. We have what amounts to a budding Christian Taliban, intent on forcing their will on the rest of the country. I'm sorry, but I cannot, in good conscience let them run roughshod over America. Let them start their own theocracy somewhere else or join their brethren in Iraq or Afghanistan. I know these are Islamic countries, but some Christians have a lot more in common with some Muslims than a free America. This is not the United States of Jesus.
06:25 AM on 03/01/2010
"This is not the United States of Jesus." - TheSojourner

Texas, when they're not threatening secession, is leading this charge towards the "United States of Jesus". As we speak, the Texas State of Education is considering revisions to their social-studies curriculum text books, that PROVE America, per the "Founders", is a "Christian" nation. It's Fundy, revisionist, bunk.

I think it's time to offer them their Christian nation. Offer them sovereignty and build a moat between America and Texas. Illegal immigration of Mexican citizens to America, thru Texas . . . solved.
12:54 AM on 03/01/2010
There are several religious contributors here at HuffPo I respect.
I've known amazing ministers, in MCC and United Church of Christ and reformed Judism who are open and affirming to LGBT parishioners.
But the putrid hatred coming from Mormon elders, Catholic Bishops, Orthodox Jews, Black homobigotted churches, and Baptists have put me OFF on most religions. Bill W who began AA, Alanon, Adult Children of Alcoholics, and other 12 step groups, had a gay friend who added the phrase
AS WE UNDERSTOOD GOD, to the step turning our will and our lives over to God, because he knew my community has been BEATEN with the bible for eons, and many of us would never go anywhere near recovery if it was THAT GOD of the haters, we were forced to turn over our lives to...we'd rather DIE.
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Marlyn
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09:31 PM on 02/28/2010
"according to recent census data 87 percent of Americans describe themselves as religious" ???

Really?
09:02 PM on 02/28/2010
The more I learn about the workings of the world; the more I
understand the greatness of God. A spiritual fullness
everyone should experience.
02:30 PM on 03/01/2010
And the more I learn about the world, the sadder I am that so many people are guided by ancient mythologies. Most violence seems to be either directly or indirectly connected with religion. There’s the inquisition, crusades, witch trials/murders, 9/11 and its ilk. There’s so-called “honor killings” in some countries because women dared to show an ankle, talk to a man, or disobey their husband. This fear of sex and oppression of women is DIRECTLY related to holy books. The three monotheistic religions are hierarchical and patriarchal. God is male, all-powerful, jealous, violent, angry, and unpredictable. But he LOVES us sooooo much. Men in religious societies tend to model themselves after this – after all, this is the ultimate male legitimacy. And what about mentally ill people who think that jesus told them to kill, or they were defending themselves from satan…many mentally ill people are highly religious...There are religious wars raging all over the world today. Millions of people continue to die – because “my god is better than your god”. Another example was the colonization of the American and Canadian Indians by the Europeans – in an attempt to christianize them. When they wouldn’t convert, many communities were given small-pox-infested blankets (just like god of the bible, right? Believe or DIE!!!!!!) You know, I could write a full-length book on how religion is connected with violence – especially the monotheistic ones. But really – need I say more?
03:35 PM on 03/08/2010
True religion: James1: 26, 27 - Nobody must imagine that he is religious while he still goes on deceiving himself and not keeping control over his tongue; anyone who does this has the wrong idea of religion. Pure unspoilt religion, in the eyes of God our Father is this: coming to the help of orphans and widows when they need it and keeping oneself uncontaminated by the world.

Those that kill, terrorize, control and whatever else they do out of hate and pride and do it in the the name of God are breaking God's commandment, " Thou shall not take the Lord thy God's name in vain." God's message is about Love, the same as what Jesus preached and any other person that is true to God.
08:28 PM on 02/28/2010
Knowing this first, that there shall come in the last days scoffers, walking after their own lusts, and saying, Where is the promise of his coming? for since the fathers fell asleep, all things continue as they were from the beginning of the creation.
II Peter 3:2-3
08:56 PM on 02/28/2010
re peter quote
its actually II Peter 3:3-4 get it right if you are going to quote.

II Peter 3:7 goes on to suggest that God will set the entire earth on fire so that he can burn non-believers to death.

Nice guy!
10:22 PM on 02/28/2010
Humans err.

Having a form of godliness, but denying the power thereof; from such turn away.
II Tim 3:5
04:13 PM on 03/01/2010
Anyone quoting scriptures who can not translate Archaic Greek and Aramaic, really don't know what they are speaking about. The really ignorant slashing and destroying gospels, which never were included in the bible, and the wretched King James translation, and even worse, further dumbing down translations like Phyliss Schafly's gay son's conservapedia RAG, make most modern bibles nearly WORTHLESS.
10:24 PM on 03/01/2010
For I testify unto every man that heareth the words of the prophecy of this book, if any man shall add unto these things, God shall add unto him the plagues that are written in this book: if any man shall take away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God shall take away his part out of the book of life , and out of the holy city and from the things that are written in this book.
Rev. 22: 18-19
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ProfessorDuh
06:52 PM on 02/28/2010
Here's more of the wonders of spirituality for you, from the New York Times:
" For more than a week, Ria Ramkissoon watched passively as her 1-year-old son wasted away, denied food and water because the older woman she lived with said it was God's will. Javon Thompson was possessed by an evil spirit, Ramkissoon was told, because he didn't say 'Amen' during a mealtime prayer."
She's now waiting for him to be restored to life by God. I'm taking bets on that. You religious people want to back your guy in in the sky?
07:12 PM on 02/28/2010
Those people are just stupid - nobody within any mainstream religious movement in American supports this type of nonsense. Fortunately or unfortunately, most denominations don't discriminate against morons - and sooner or later some of them are going to do something retarded.
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ProfessorDuh
07:41 PM on 02/28/2010
"Just stupid?" Why so intolerant of their spirituality? What makes your God so vastly superior to theirs?
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ProfessorDuh
06:35 AM on 03/01/2010
I'm afraid that once you let irrationality in the door -- defined in this case as the ardent acceptance on "faith" of metaphysical assertions without visible evidence -- you can hardly claim to be surprised about what comes in along with it. One person's ""God" tells him to take communion, and the next person's "God" instructs him to kill everyone at an abortion clinic.
Despite your umbrage at the comparison, we have no real way to tell the difference. Both claim to be acting on absolute moral authority vouchsafed solely to them by invisible, inaudible, intangible beings who never appear in public.
As David Michael Green observed, a society that assuages its existential fears through the tenacious adherence to ludicrous fairy tales will also be one that is fundamentally ripe for other such nonsense stories in the political spheres and elsewhere, and one that lacks the mental infrastructure, developed and sustained by habitual use, for rational decision-making.
08:03 PM on 02/28/2010
True spirituality in THIS instance would be fighting for universal healthcare and greatly expanded care of mental illness.
04:16 PM on 03/15/2010
Yes!!!
04:24 PM on 02/28/2010
As for the event 1844, just goes to show you how putting your trust in man when it comes to God can be foolishness and deadly.
04:23 PM on 02/28/2010
This must be a place for people to come to reassure each other that God doesn't exist. Yet, I still haven't seen any evidence from anyone that proves He doesn't exist. The ones that diligently tried, failed. No man yet has been able to produce any facts on the matter. So, I guess a lot of you people come here to feed your pride, come up with comments that have no facts tied to them.

I've proven that God, Jesus Christ, The Holy Spirit, Satan and demons exist. I have also proven that the scriptures in the Bible are Truth. Many, many people will just sit back and deny that God exists. Why? It's easier, you don't have to do any work and because you will find out you were wrong. You people can have your temporary carnal life and your temporary world.

As it goes for "Free Will", God gave this to us to choose between Him or the world. He will always welcome you. He doesn't condemn you for rebelling against Him, you condemn yourself. Same as if you commited a crime here, do you not condemn yourself? He may punish you out of His love for you, just as a parent would punish their children.

God offers eternal life, He sent His Son to die for you and to help you if you would just ask for it. Does that sound like someone who wants to see you spend eternity in torment? May God Bless You All.
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Olaugh
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04:50 PM on 02/28/2010
How have you proven that "God, Jesus Christ, The Holy Spirit, Satan and demons exist"? I am a believer and live my life as if God exists but I can't prove that God exists. How can you state that "the scriptures in the Bible are Truth"? Which ones? The Bible is an assemblage of writings which have been edited and translated over the course of millenia. Since most religions teach the same basic ethics aren't their scriptures Truth as well?
05:04 PM on 02/28/2010
I am a believer, too. I cannot prove the existence of God, though; if I could prove it, it would not be a FAITH!
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TheSojourner
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04:56 PM on 02/28/2010
I have seen no evidence that God does exist. Please stop your proselytizing. This column is supposed to be for discussing beliefs, not for trying to convert anyone. Please stop it.
06:06 PM on 02/28/2010
It goes both ways. Many on here are saying God does not exist, which I take it as they are trying to convert people to be an athiest. I am not trying to convert anyone, they have to decide on their own.

As for the existence of God, Jesus Christ, The Holy Spirit and The Bible, don't you people have a personal relationship with Jesus Christ? Haven't you proven any of the scriptures yet?
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ProfessorDuh
01:49 PM on 02/28/2010
On Oct. 22, 1844, more than 100,000 people -- what we now call Seventh-day Adventists -- stayed up late into the night watching, absolutely convinced that Jesus would return. Despite what later came to be known as the Great Disappointment, this complete, glaring and utter failure of their ridiculous religious prophecy did not deter the "Christian faith" of many for long.
This is the problem fundamentalists always face. Reality always spits right in the face of their beliefs. That, and their determined irrationality, is what makes them so angry, and so very dangerous.