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President Obama's Faith Council - Missing in Action When We Need Them Most

Posted: 11/15/09 09:52 AM ET

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Obama's Council on Faith Based Partnerships has fallen off the map - and we need them back. Nothing exemplifies the sad lack of contribution of this much hailed diverse group of religious leaders than the current impasse on health care with the Stupak abortion amendment.

Even before President Obama took office he was assembling a team of religious leaders from a wide range of backgrounds to advise him as he proposed to tackle difficult issues such as poverty reduction, health care, war and other moral questions of governance. Many of us were excited about the prospect of Obama's Faith Council, which included such theologically and politically diverse names as Father Snyder of Catholic Charities; Rabbi Saperstein of the Reform Action Committee; Dr. Frank Page, former President of the Southern Baptist Convention; and Dr. Sharon Watkins, General Minister of the Disciples of Christ.

Unlike in the past, Obama's Faith Council was allotted no money to dispense so it was relieved of the political nightmare of accusations of favoritism and could focus on policy questions. The promise of this group lay in its diversity. The idea was that if this group could come to some consensus on the important moral issues of the day, it would help inform President Obama's administration to enact policy that reflected, by proxy, the religious wisdom of the vast majority of the American population.

Unfortunately, after a much-publicized announcement and launch, the group has basically been silent. Apparently the Council is working on a "report" to give to the president sometime next year on the various areas they have been assigned to investigate. This seems like a classic blow off -- "Yes, faith leaders, why don't you go write a report. I look forward to glancing at it."

The issues that need moral guidance are on the table now! By its silence, the president's Council on Faith Based and Neighborhood Partnerships is acquiescing to its own irrelevancy. Most Americans and policy makers have assuredly forgotten the council exists -- but not those of us who really believed in the possibilities of the group.

The 'Urgency of Now' includes finding a way to a health care bill, addressing questions of unemployment and foreclosures, the wars in Afghanistan and Iraq, torture and even balancing gay marriage with freedom of religion. The time will never be more urgent for the Council's moral voice on these questions.

Cross posted from Beliefnet's Progressive Revival

 
 
 
 
 
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grailknight
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10:22 PM on 11/16/2009
Obama has been wise to keep religion at a distance. I'm pleased that I haven't heard of Rick Warren in eleven months. The state should wash its hands of religion.
03:11 PM on 11/17/2009
Amen to that. Look where spiritual advisers have gotten the middle east.
03:34 PM on 11/16/2009
practice your religion, I fully support that right

but, mostly, I INSIST that you keep your religion out of my life.
02:57 PM on 11/16/2009
The last thing your country needs is to have politics be tighter with religion! The very thought of "Faith Based" groups counselling the president is abhorrant to me. I don't care how progessive you may claim to be, keep religious idealogues out of government hallways! For a country that screams out loud about seperation of church and state I can't understand how y'all can't see what a fallacy that really is and make it stop.
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01:09 PM on 11/16/2009
No "we" don't need them at all. The very idea of a "presidential council on faith" is an abomination in regards to the principles of America and Obama's continuance of Bush's failure in this matter is a good indication that he shouldn't be president.
10:16 AM on 11/16/2009
......and this is a bad thing because.........
The less religious involvement, the better!!
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11:44 AM on 11/16/2009
True but they can sway and educate their following members. It is the pentecostal evangelists that are scary. They need Geoffrey Black from the United Church of Christ too...they are progressive and he is an Af Am. And he too, can talk to the multitudes although he has no clout over them. And perhaps we would not have had the insanity in the tea parties if someone would have taken a lead on this health reform. Most of the kooks will follow their church...well I guess..too many of those churches have uneducated pastors who are also kooky. The witch doc comes to mind.
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08:20 AM on 11/16/2009
“The 'Urgency of Now'â€

I insist that the State act to ensure that any embryo becomes a sentient entity. It is my avowed intention to personally intervene as necessary, in order to ensure fulfilment of that potential existence. For such a matter transcends Earthly considerations.
Thereafter, I couldn’t give a **** about what happens to that life. As far as I’m concerned it doesn’t deserve provision of healthcare to preserve it. Because its totally expendable.
03:35 AM on 11/16/2009
Wow....thanks for the article. Obama is far more shrewd than I thought. This is perfect. Get the religious all together and then collectively ignore them. Couldn't have thought of a better solution myself.
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09:08 AM on 11/16/2009
Yes. Kepp your friends close and your enemies closer...
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12:38 AM on 11/16/2009
"balancing gay marriage with freedom of religion"

There is nothing to balance. Gays have the unalienable right to the same legal recognition of marriage ceremonies, performed by whichever churches will perform them, and churches whose theology prohibits performing said ceremonies are perfectly free to perform only opposite marriages. They are not punished, except for losing gays' donations I suppose. But not punished in any way by the state.

The current state of affairs violates equal protection and the establishment clause.
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11:37 AM on 11/16/2009
Does it violate the equal protection and the establishment clause to not allow 12 year old heterosexuals to marry? By the way, age limits for marriage were established by legislatures. So far no judge has decided to make him or herself a hero by ruling that unconstitutional.
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01:45 PM on 11/16/2009
Way to demonstrate a complete lack of understanding on the issue. Care to bring up the one about marrying your dog now?
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01:44 PM on 11/16/2009
Agreed and well said. It is unconscionable that a constitutional scholar like Obama should ignore this issue as policy and be on the wrong side of it in speeches. How in the world did we wind up with a black president who's for both separate but equal AND justice delayed?
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10:45 PM on 11/16/2009
Decades of collective apathy.
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11:03 PM on 11/15/2009
No healthy democracy should have a freakin "faith council" in the first place
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12:17 AM on 11/16/2009
No _healthy_ democracy does. Help restore ours to health. Tax all churches that advocate for or against any legislation, not just those which use a legally meaningless "substantial part" of their resources in politics.

http://www.thepetitionsite.com/1/tax-political-churches
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01:46 PM on 11/16/2009
Not sure about "no" democracy but I'm quite "freakin" sure this democratic republic not only shouldn't have one but IMHO is required NOT to have one.
08:46 PM on 11/15/2009
I could not disagree with you more. What this urgent discussion on health care needs now more than any other thing are contributors capable of logical, sound thought - such as:

An individual pays for medical insurance. A person needs a medical procedure. Said procedure is accomplished. Consumer gets what consumer paid for – a medical procedure.

What this discussion does NOT need, are superstitious flakes who insist that their version of morality must be thrust upon the rest of the populace no matter what harm it may cause, reminiscent of the Middle Ages Inquisition.

Morality should not, and indeed can not, be legislated under the rights guided and protected by our Constitution.

Good luck to you in trying to change the Constitution, though.
08:08 PM on 11/15/2009
Maybe the faith-based council could render an opinion on a Catholic Archdiocese threatening to withhold social services if they don't get their way on same-sex marriage law in Washington.
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09:13 PM on 11/15/2009
Vatican has been recognized as a nation/state for only about 60 years.
Do all clergy hold 'dual citizenship'?
What is up with this?
Why are so many 'people's representatives' really 'representatives' of Ratzinger thru Cstreet?

Sick of the lot of them.
Moneychangers in the temple.
01:42 PM on 11/16/2009
We now have six members of the catholic church sitting on the Supreme Court.
02:06 PM on 11/15/2009
More religion is the last thing we need right now. We should be trying to reduce the influence of religion on American life and not promote it. Religion is responsible for spreading ignorance and has done tremendous damage to our souls.
08:35 PM on 11/15/2009
Speak for yourself.

My faith informs me. Faith, religion, and belief in a higher power fueled the civil rights movement and freedom movements worldwide. How do you think people were able to engage in a nonviolent action resistance movement in the face of attack dogs, angry and armed men, guns, and unjust laws.

Religious organizations were there, with Katrina victims and other volunteer groups when the government wasn't. Habit for Humanity International is a Christian based organization. Religious organizations are there feeding the homeless and poor. Collecting and donating clothes, shoes, furniture, and building/providing homes. I

Are Religious organizations organizations perfect? Of course not, if there were they wouldn't be human.
09:34 AM on 11/16/2009
There is no evidence that the things you listed would not have happened if religious organizations did not exist to do so.

And honestly I find it demeaning to the men and women who fought in some many ways for their civil rights to unjustly tell them they didn't do it with their hard work and determination, but it was a god who made it all possible.

Faith only informs you of what you already know to be true but are for whatever reason to scared to admit for yourself on its own merits.
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11:16 AM on 11/16/2009
In Uganda, Ugandan and American Evangelicals are staging a pogrom against gay Ugandans. They have proposed a law which would make being gay a status crime, Advocating for gay rights would be illegal. Any homosexual "act" would be punishable by life in prison. Evidence of repeat offenses would bring the death penalty. Families would be compelled to turn in suspected gay family members under threat of imprisonment.

In South Carolina, the Catholic bishops condemned an anti-bullying law because they claimed that recognizing gays in any civil rights law would lead to same sex marriage. BTW, the Vatican made the same claim in attacking a UN resolution which would have recommended decriminalization of homosexuality to stop state sponsored anti-gay murder.

In Washington DC, the Catholic bishops have decided that their right to deny gays equal access to health insurance is so important that they hold the homeless hostage to enforce that right.

As for help with Katrina, many religious organizations blamed Katrina on gays.

Far from imperfect, some religious organizations have become a force for evil in the world.
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11:32 AM on 11/15/2009
Less superstition...more science please.
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01:46 PM on 11/16/2009
Agreed.
10:34 AM on 11/15/2009
Exactly right Merlin. Also, did anyone notice that they are all Christian except for one rabbi? This is diversity? Where are Moslem or any other religions represented?
And what exactly could they say about foreclosures? That they're wrong? Yeah, we all know that, but what else can be said by a minister on how to change that? Will they actually have solutions to the wars we're in, other than "stop them"?
As a non-Christian and a firm believer in separation of church and state, I find this pretty scary.
05:24 PM on 11/15/2009
For someone so obsessed with science and facts, you certainly have yours all wrong. Several of the Councilmembers are from secular organizations (Judy Vredenburgh, Fred Davie), there are two muslims, one hindu, a very diverse Christian group (evangelicals, mainlines, catholics), and THREE jewish people.

Get your facts straight.
08:36 PM on 11/15/2009
Thanks.
12:21 AM on 11/16/2009
This totally wrong post is an example of many of the uniformed that have brought about this entire debate and got this President elected in the first place. Just follow the promised savior over the cliff into a country that is broke, has no real improved health care, actually increases the cost of health care for ALL including the poor. This bill is a joke. VOTE NO OR YOU HAVE TO GO on THIS HEALTH CARE BILL. Democrate, Republican, Independent...out the door, we don't want any more. 2010 and the PEOPLE will win.
10:11 AM on 11/15/2009
No doubt these people are well-meaning, but those who promote belief in the supernatural should have no place in government. The fact that religion still dominates many aspects of our local, state and federal governments is a shameful commentary on how far America still has to go to fulfill its promise of democracy. Kudos to the Obama administration for keeping religious advisers on the down-low, where they belong. This is the 21st Century, not the 15th, despite the preferences of many conservatives.

And it's an ongoing travesty of justice that reasonable people -- i.e., non-believers -- are forced to subsidize religion through generous tax breaks and direct expenditures of tax dollars.
05:25 PM on 11/15/2009
Merlin,

That would cut out about 85% of the American public from having a "place" in government.--including our President.
01:48 PM on 11/16/2009
Perhaps treatment for their neurological disorder could be included in health care.
08:37 PM on 11/15/2009
Democracy doesn't include religious freedom and speech? Really?
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12:19 AM on 11/16/2009
Our Constitutional democracy does not allow the government to have any legislation respecting any establishment of religion, which does not mean that only establishing a state religion is illegal, it means that no law may be passed respecting any religious establishment, aka any religion in any way.
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11:27 AM on 11/16/2009
We live in a Republic which demands equality for all citizens before the law. There was a time when some currently influential religious organizations were extremely unpopular and subject to discrimination because of that unpopularity.

The Catholic church is a prime example. Catholics were protected under Title VII of the Civil Rights Act of 1964 in employment, housing, etc. Catholics were also protected under hate crimes laws passed in 1969 and 1994. Now the Catholic hierarchy demands the right to discriminate against gays in nearly every way that Catholics are protected under federal law.

Your right to freedom of religion does not include the right to persecute others especially in ways in which you are explicitly protected against persecution.