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Daddy Confusion

Posted: 04/11/11 08:54 PM ET

Talk about daughters and power, and the discussion inevitably wends its way to fathers. Fathers give girls confidence. Fathers set the bar in expectations about how to be treated by men. Fathers prepare girls for the world.

While the power of fathers in shaping the lives of girls is beyond argument, it also lacks dimension. It implies that young girls are powerless in the transaction -- simply paint-by-number projects. Good father, the spaces are filled in correctly. Bad father, they are filled in destructively. Absent father, they are filled in by others.

It fact, young girls are active and able participants in the lessons in power they absorb, and the power they exert within the family. Today, however, the triangle formed by fathers and daughters and power is experiencing tremendous change in it's lines and internal angles.

Daughters actively challenging or circumventing dad's dominion carries through to virtually every family sitcom. Daughter outmaneuvers hapless dad, lessons are learned, hugs all around at the end.

Consider The Simpsons. While it might be dubious to draw deep social significance from a cartoon, if the archetype fits, wear it. Homer is a dolt; Marge is passive; Bart is a sociopath and the baby is an accessory. Daughter Lisa is the brains of the outfit; and clearly the family's moral center.

Consider the economics.

Women make over 85 percent of consumer purchases, and they have direct influence over 95 percent of total goods and services. Their consumer spending power is $3.7 trillion. Women also buy 50 percent of the traditional 'man' items -- cars, PCs and consumer electronics.

Except at the very top, women have largely achieved workplace equality. A woman now commands the police force in the tough streets of Washington D.C. A woman now commands the helicopter that ferries the President of the United States. Certainly, there are still gains to be made; inequalities to address. But, considering where we started, they are mop-up actions in the wake of a victorious battle.

In a world where female power is both accessible and self-defined, what does that say about the lessons of power a girl learns from her father? Does it make those lessons more important than ever, or increasingly irrelevant?

Recent events complicate the answer.

In a reverse on the improving economic status of women, there is also the stress of changing economics for dads.

In my studies of women and families over the years, I have seen something totally new in family dynamics -- daughters who are far more successful than their fathers. I have talked to many women struggling to process the fact their own achievements have taken them to places their fathers will never go.

For some, there is embarrassment about out-achieving the man who taught them how to ride a bike. For others, there are questions. Said one young entrepreneur I interviewed: "I always wonder why my dad didn't do more with his life. And I feel horrible thinking that way, because he spent his life supporting his family."

The recession isn't helping. It has hit men much harder than women, with job losses highest in construction, manufacturing and other industries dominated by males. Even the former collapse on Wall Street has disproportionately bloodied the white collars of men.

Fathers and daughters will always share a special -- even primal -- bond; the only two members of one of nature's most exclusive clubs. A daughter's sense of self will continue to be shaped by the object lessons her father shares about how men treat women. Her sense of confidence as a woman will be shaped by how he reacts to her as a man.

The lessons daughters are learning about power from their fathers -- who has it, how to get it, how to use it, and what gender has to do with it -- is yet another critical piece in the creation of an new generation of women.

 
 
 

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11:26 AM on 04/13/2011
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05:08 PM on 04/12/2011
I married a powerful woman. I love it. I love when my wife shares the burden with me. I love when she takes over and gives me a break. I love to watch her exercise her power and extend her reach. It makes me feel safer in a violent, and chaotic world. It' increases my passion for her.

If I had a daughter, I would teach her to be just like her mother.
01:44 PM on 04/12/2011
Or not.
01:19 PM on 04/12/2011
"Fathers give girls confidence. Fathers set the bar in expectations about how to be treated by men. Fathers prepare girls for the world."

YES. Thank you! Two parental heads are better than one!
07:12 PM on 04/12/2011
Sure, but it doesn't work when the mother is in charge and the father neither teaches not gives anything except always going to work and always being there. That are good things, but does nothing to help a girl find confidence or learn how to be treated by men. No, I'm wrong on the second point. The girl learns how to always yearn for guys who are emotionally unavailable.

Nothing against my Dad. He's now 93 and I love him dearly, but I left home at 17 with zero self esteem or confidence and had to develop my sense of self all by myself after lots of disastrous or unhealthy relationships.
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Peggy Drexler
09:02 PM on 04/12/2011
There may actually be some good news here for believers in marriage – which I am. If you have fewer people getting married because they feel they’re supposed to or because someone expects them to, then those who are getting married are more likely doing it because it’s their choice, and for reasons they value. Will that mean fewer, but more stable marriages? We’ll see. But we already know that in 1978, when 28 percent of Americans in a TIME survey said marriage was obsolete, the divorce rate is higher than it is today.
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01:09 PM on 04/12/2011
I like this very sensible article by Dr. Drexler. Of course, in such a short article an abusive father cannot be fully addressed. Women react in different ways to abusive men, I think. They are more likely to lead a life of victimhood because of an abusive father. I've seen women become professional victims because of abusive men. However, there are abused young girls who, because of a strong, compassionate mentor (teacher, adviser, friend), overcome obstacles and become stronger as their life progresses. Then there is the abused mother who will do all it takes to have her daughter(s) lead a productive life, different from her own. Lots of things come into play that can enhance the daughter's life. We must encourage our young women to use the strengths they have. Playing the victim is not an option.
05:13 PM on 04/12/2011
The love hate victim triangle is a complex one. I've come to the assistance of women being abused by men only to have my efforts thrown back into my face. While this does not stop me from intervening, it slows down my reactions a bit to people in a violent relationship.

There is something about a woman that drives men crazy..... perhaps we are just plain stupid.
12:53 AM on 04/14/2011
There are prams on the moon? Who knew?
12:35 PM on 04/12/2011
My family is set up the typical way: momma's boy (my bro) and daddy's girl (me.). I thought it was just because my mom and brother are both the youngest and are just more similar. My dad and I are both the oldest and think the same way about things. I guess it could be because of how you say.
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12:28 PM on 04/12/2011
Good fathers make all the difference in the world to children of either gender, but you're right about daughters. The bond between a little girl and her father is one of the most crucial elements in the forming of a solid psyche. There are also fathers, good, kind, loving men, who make mistakes. So wonderful that the bond matters more than the mistakes.

I learned through the love of people around me, and the church, that God can be a daddy sometimes too for a little girl less fortunate. And to God that little girl is a princess, a pumpkin, an angel, a shining flower, and she deserves the very best because that is his will for her.

In the case of earthly fathers, nothing can be more beautiful, or healing to his heart and very soul, than his little girl's smile. From the very first one.

Wonderful article.

Blessings.
12:55 AM on 04/14/2011
I like what you had to say about God being a "daddy" sometimes. You are right!
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12:09 PM on 04/12/2011
The step-daughters in my life were both in their twenties when Mom asked them to leave. They had been living at home with us until she couldn't stand it anymore. One had a child, the other left the state and continued her party behaviour. The one who had a child began demanding, 'Eddie Bauer baby accessories,' and the one who partied finally got her act together and is doing quite well.

Both of my step-daughters decided to hate me because they were kicked out of the home, despite the fact that it was Mom who asked them to leave. They have different fathers, and each of these young women is highly-dedicated to their respective fathers. One of these fathers is a drunk, the other is now deceased.

I can only stand to one side, apparently. The one saving grace is the fact that they are finally on their own. Both my wife and I have peace at last.
12:32 PM on 04/12/2011
It must be so hard to be a step-parent. I can't imagine being one. My friend is SO hard on her step-dad, and it's ridiculous because he has done so much for her. She's just so ungrateful...and all because of the BS "he's not my real dad, and he can keep trying but he'll never get my love." It's awful. I hope you can end up having good relationships with your step-daughters.
11:49 AM on 04/12/2011
as a dad when I think about the things I want to impart with my daughter (and son, for that matter) what i feel is most important they come down to these: you write your own story in this life; everybody grows at different times; stand up for yourself and stand up for those weaker than you; and step back to take it all in once in a while. If I can depart these ideas as well as a healthy love for jazz and the blues I will feel my work on this earth was done
12:02 PM on 04/12/2011
that is, impart these ideas
07:37 PM on 04/12/2011
That's very nice.
Oh, I read "impart" for "depart" due to the context of your thoughts.
12:57 AM on 04/14/2011
I wanna be adopted!
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Dots
The shadow of God is beauty.
11:14 AM on 04/12/2011
Kids are now learning from media and peers. Real mothers and fathers are too stressed and on the run.
10:39 AM on 04/12/2011
""I always wonder why my dad didn't do more with his life. And I feel horrible thinking that way, because he spent his life supporting his family."

This is a blinking neon sign-post of a culture that does not value the family, does not value relationship, doesn't really care about sacrificial love and is at base materialistic, narcissistic, and self-absorbed.

Very sad to see the beneficiary of the love, affection, and sacrifice embarrassed by it. Many years ago I was on my way to marriage with someone who, thankfully had a well timed moment of honest self reflection. She recounted how as a child and teen she was always embarrassed to be wearing clothes her mother had sewn. This despite the fact that her mother was a world class seamstress who's private work was always impeccable. That told me everyone thing I needed to know about her views on family, love, sacrifice. This woman's subsequent 3 divorces validated my running like a scalded monkey!
12:59 AM on 04/14/2011
Glad she showed herself in time for you to dodge the bullet. Hope life's been kind to you since then.
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09:55 AM on 04/12/2011
Both parents are vital, a father does empower his daughter in many ways. Having parents in a good marriage with mutual respect show kids that these relationships are possible and what they might shoot for in their own lives. Career is only ONE part of being a whole person, only one part of a complete life.
 
My hard working husband wanted to provide opportunities for his children to reach for their dreams. Our daughter knows that what ever goal she sets for herself, she has our full support, but she also knows her foundation was built by her father, and without that she would not have those chances.....its all abt mutual respect and acknowledging what we each bring to the family unit
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Peggy Drexler
09:09 PM on 04/12/2011
In fact fathers nurture their daughters’ capabilities in different ways than mothers do.
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Ed Baker
All Hail Big Mother
08:56 AM on 04/12/2011
Great piece. Very refreshing for these pages. It's nice to see a female writer acknowledge the misandry of the media.

As to the gal who is critical of her father, but at the same time sees that he spent his life making hers better - isn't there some self-hate in that statement?

If a male child out paces his father, he considers that he's done exactly what his father has wanted, and worked hard to enable him to do...... Is this woman questioning the achievements of her father simply because she thinks that as a male, he should have achieved more than any female, including her? Is her misandry for her father is a product of her own self hate?

Most forms of bias, from sexism, the heterosexism, to racism - usually stem from one's own feelings of low self esteem.

This piece was very refreshing. Most of what I read in this section is women blaming all the problems of the world on men, and claiming victimhood in everything from marriage to work, to politics.

Thanks for writing a great piece. As you say - the rest of the equality battle is "mop-up." Women are governors, senators, congressional reps, CEO's........ It's great for a female writer to acknowledge that achievement is now on the shoulders of women.
10:14 AM on 04/12/2011
I wouldn't call the daughter's questioning "self-hatred". She is still in a world with double standards for men and women and gets trapped in those illusions like the rest of us. As she matures, "self-doubt" will give way to confidence and that will help cement the equal rights we are committed to.
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Ed Baker
All Hail Big Mother
10:52 AM on 04/12/2011
But the statement she makes - she seems to be deriding her father for not having more materially....... is that excusable? Or in excusing that, aren't we creating or enabling another double standard?
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thesidetrek
07:12 AM on 04/12/2011
Men get a bad rap and fathers are generally portrayed as 'dolts' to be tolerated by long suffering wife and children. It all started with the Berenstain Bears. Just look at most commercials. Fathers, brothers, sons are worthy of respect and are integral in society's health. The pendulum has swung too far the other way.
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Ed Baker
All Hail Big Mother
09:00 AM on 04/12/2011
We all deserve respect, male and female. The media portrayals of males are horrific. But - in entertainment - the expected is far from entertaining.... so we see this "upside down" scenario in most writing for entertainment..... the child is always wiser than the parent.... the lowly uneducated worker teaches the boss a lesson..... etc..... it's a distorted view of life - but it's what sells. Entertainment does the same to women - the stupid girl running and falling in the horror flick, the stupid woman with big boobs and horrible piles of blonde hair on top of her head.......

It's too bad men and women can't treat each other with respect and truly understand each other.

I think heterosexuals are too busy trying to get one-ups-manship on one another to truly understand each other. It's unfortunate.
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Devontate
PrObama
05:12 PM on 04/12/2011
Wierd. . . your question for me was blocked, but I found it perfectly valid and unoffensive.

Here's a link to a website that provides a list of male privileges. Not legal privileges, necessarily, but social ones. You may not agree with all of them, but they do bring up some interesting topics:

http://www.amptoons.com/blog/the-male-privilege-checklist/
07:52 PM on 04/12/2011
"Heterosexuals"? Males? Both genders? I don't understand your point. Obviously not all hetero nor homo sexual people are the same Many people prefer to seek understanding of others and finding areas of commonality and conciliation.

As for media portrayals, they are usually ridiculous and may apply to only a tiny fraction of real people. Males & females are depicted as one-dimensional and usually portraying the worse stereotypes of both sexes.
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PrObama
09:29 AM on 04/12/2011
"The pendulum has swung too far the other way."

Have you been following politics lately?

'There's an all out war on women.

Sexism and misogyny are THRIVING today. I'm not saying it's good for men, either, but at the root of this attack on women is the same patriarchy that still has a firm grip on America. The problem is, male privilege is blind to the men who have it.
12:38 PM on 04/12/2011
What male priveledge? Young women make more than young men today. Young women are better educated than young men today. There is not male privilege if anything their is a male disadvantage. Males are more likely to commit suicide or end up in prison. Men die sooner, are less happy, and few in the society seem to give a damn about their welfare. Men are the last group in America to get any compassion or sympathy.

So please stop spreading the myth of male privilege it's not doing are failing boys any good.
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Ed Baker
All Hail Big Mother
01:38 PM on 04/12/2011
Many generalizations - can you provide some specific instances where you think men have more legal rights than do women?
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ken derow
05:14 AM on 04/12/2011
Yes, fathers give their daughters confidence, and, of course they help to shape the lives of their daughters, but, one of the best and most effective ways they can naturally, and powerfully, influence their children is by creating and conveying to them an unending, non-conditional stream of compassion. This compassion, manifested as love, caring and consideration, is the bedrock on which great parent-child relationships are built, relationships that will flourish and last a lifetime.

From compassion flow the natural correlates of love, which include better physical and emotional health, better well-being, better self-esteem, and even better longevity. All good things, and all available for free, with no negatives and no unintended consequences. Compassion helps to create better lives for all of us, and, is the most precious gift we can give to our children, or, to ourselves.