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How to Talk to Kids About the New Normal

Posted: 07/31/2012 4:19 pm

These days, it's becoming more and more impossible to define "normal." That's a good thing. Go into nearly any classroom and you'll see the physical landscape of children looks vastly different than it did a generation ago. And that's before we even meet their parents.

Take 8-year-old Ned, the only son of Alice and Jeremy. Last year, in his public school second grade class, Ned had friends whose families weren't just--or, in some cases, remotely--like his own. There were some single moms and a single dad; there were two classmates with two fathers. One friend lived with his grandmother. And Ned's teacher was gay, though it's not something she shared with her young charges. But Ned never had a chance to assume that the traditional Mom-Dad-child family--the one he had--was what might be considered "normal." For Ned, based on what he saw, his family was no more normal than anyone else's.

It's an important shift and reflects a new perspective enjoyed by many children growing up today. At the same time, many of the messages children receive through pop culture--whether it's animated films and television shows, music, or books--continue to enforce one kind of "standard" romantic relationship, and that's the one between a man and a woman. At home, even the most liberal parents among us may have a hard time resisting the urge to encourage intimacy with our sons by jokingly asking them whether there were "any cute girls at camp today?" It may seem harmless, but may also perpetuate the notion that the boys notice girls, and the other way around--and that's that.

Many parents question how, and when, to talk to their kids about homosexuality. Some people--particularly proponents of "don't say gay" legislation in states like Missouri and Tennessee, which aims to forbid public schools from mentioning that homosexuality exists at all--argue that kids are too young to learn about sex. Of course, some are. But talking about gay love needn't include a lesson in the mechanics of sex, gay or otherwise. Others argue that making kids aware of homosexuality may encourage them to be gay--that's ridiculous, and disproven by science besides. Talking about what it means to be gay is a conversation that's appropriate for children who are old enough to have a conversation about what it means to have love and friendship and respect for someone else--all those things that you want them to understand about being good people. It's a conversation that's only awkward if you make it awkward.

And for many families, the conversation is easy. Ned first met his parents' gay friends Brett and Carl when he was three years old. The talk Ned's mother, Alice, had with Ned preceding their visit was less a discussion than a check-in and went something like: "'Brett and Carl are a couple, just like Mommy and Daddy, and love each other very much,'" recalls Alice, "and Ned said, 'okay.' That was it." Later on, Ned asked some specific questions--did they sleep in the same bed, like Mommy and Daddy? Did they kiss goodnight?--and Alice always answered honestly, and age-appropriately. "He's not old enough to have a discussion about how sex works, so we'll save that for later," she says. "But it was perfectly normal to talk to him about love and how people in a couple make each other happy, and all the other non-sexual things that make gay love no different from straight love." Besides the fact that they were both men, Brett and Carl were no different than Mommy and Daddy.

This creation of a new normal extends beyond sexuality, as our baseline for acceptance in various arenas changes rapidly. Many things that used to faze children, or make them "targets" for bullies just a few years ago, are no longer an issue. When I was young, wearing eyeglasses nearly inevitably earned a kid some version of the "Four Eyes" nickname. It probably wasn't surprising: All children who were unfortunate enough to need glasses got the same standard-issue, awkward frames. These days, though, eyeglasses--like nearly everything else available to kids, like braces or "friendship groups," in which well-behaved, if socially-awkward, kids are removed from the classroom as a special treat and not a punishment--have become cool markers of individuality. Kids clamor for specs that feature superheroes like Superman and Catwoman, or fun colors like green and purple. Even Prada makes eyeglasses for kids.

For most children and, for that matter, teenagers, being "different" is undesirable. But the more we talk about our own differences, the more "normal" they become, and the less undesirable they feel. Dr. Edgardo Menvielle, who heads the Gender and Sexuality Development Psychosocial Programs at Children's National Medical Center in Washington D.C., reports seeing pre-school age children whose parents worry that their son likes Barbies better than Transformers, or that their rough and tumble daughters seem to go beyond tomboy. Although these parents work very hard to be relaxed about gender issues deep down, he says, "they are not acknowledging what they want, which is for their kids to be so called 'normal' members of society." Which is a shame, but hopefully not a concern for much longer. Because there's really no such thing as normal anymore.

This applies, too, when gay children come out to their parents. It can be an adjustment for even the most open-minded, loving parent to learn their child is somebody different from who they thought they were. A few years back, a friend's daughter, then a senior in high school, outed herself in a school assembly as part of a series in which kids talked to the whole school about something that was important to them. Her parents were in the audience, and heard for the first time that their daughter was gay. That was a tough experience for my friend and her husband, and not because they didn't have plenty of gay friends themselves. But for parents who are fine with anyone being gay--including the children of friends, neighbors, and relatives--things may get complicated when sexuality hits that close to home if, again, only because talking about being gay too often revolves around talking about sex.

The bottom line is when talking to your kids about their gay friends, neighbors, or relatives; their friends' gay parents; or your own sexuality is to keep dialogue open and to keep it light. Sexuality is a big deal. But when talking about gay, straight, or anything else, the principles of how we want to teach our kids to live are the same as any other discussion about growing up right: Practice kindness and love and treat others as you'd like to be treated. Plain and simple.

 
 
 

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01:21 PM on 08/02/2012
Thank you Dr. Drexler for this commentary. It's want I've been saying since all this LBGT chatter started. You mentioned to teach our kids, but I think we need to start with teaching the adults in the room first. Hopefully one day they'll get it -- that it's not about who's sleeping with who, it's about love and kindness towards others. People sexual orientation is their own business. God didn't ordained me to go around policing people bedroom, but He did tell me "love your neighbor...". Just because we may not agree or find their sexual pleasure appalling doesn't give us the right to hate others. It's all about practicing kindness and love towards everybody. Walk in peace with ALL men. And treat people the way you want to be treated.

I, personally, think that Chic-Fil-A ordeal was blown way out of proposition. That president/CEO have the right to believe whatever he wants to believe. No harm, no foul. We all have our freedom of speech and can voice our opinion, but at the end of the day it's all about how you treat people. I still say walk in love and peace with all men whether you agree with their lifestyle/opinion or not.
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Alisa Neely
i SUPPORT GAY RIGHTS....EQUAL RIGHTS really....i f
02:01 AM on 08/02/2012
i think, parents needs to be HONEST.....DON'T talk DOWN to them....and answer their questions the BEST you can....without the coloring of HATE.....when it come to LOVE....there is NOTHING to HATE about it....same goes with talking about SEX.......if parents DON'T want their kids learning about from schools or out side sources....then they NEED to DO their JOBS.

LOVE IS LOVE, NO MATTER THE "GENDER" OR "RACE" OF THOSE INVOLVED IN THE RELATIONSHIP.....gays don't want anything special....they want the SAME things everyone else want.

alisa
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Jennifer Mead
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07:18 PM on 08/01/2012
What a great article.
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Greg Albright
08:02 PM on 08/01/2012
Not really. The current norm for the medical community is to treat teenagers who "come out" for elevated suicide risk, being at risk for drug abuse, being at risk for sexual exploitation, being at risk for STD's, and the complications for teenagers who come out, just goes on and on.

That is the science based medical community.

For her to not address that in this article seems almost criminally negligent.
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Alisa Neely
i SUPPORT GAY RIGHTS....EQUAL RIGHTS really....i f
02:04 AM on 08/02/2012
i agree with you on that.....however, it's because too many people make it HARD on the young gays of today.....again, it's still the PARENTS job to talk about these things with their children.....educated yourself and your kids....and HOPE, they make the right choice for THEM....NOT for the parents....i.e. how it looks to the country club and such..
alisa
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04:40 PM on 08/04/2012
I think you're missing the point. The reason LGBT teenagers are at elevated risk in those areas isn't because of their sexuality. It's because of the treatment they receive from other due to their sexuality.

If children are taught from an early age - directly or indirectly - that there's something wrong with that sexuality, then it's not surprising that the risks increase exponentially for teenagers that 'come out.' They have no support system, not even an internal feeling of self-worth.
07:09 PM on 08/01/2012
Amen to this article!
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06:41 PM on 08/01/2012
Step by step.
06:08 PM on 08/01/2012
Bravo...for the kindness and sensitivity shown.....For other caring ways of parenting go to www.thedancingparent.com.
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LuluOnTheLeft
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05:33 PM on 08/01/2012
I, having been a single mom, raised my daughter by not pointing out differences. Living in an urban environment, she knew of same sex couples as I and others had them as friends, but she never knew to question that. She also went to school in a global environment. In junior high, my daughter talked about her new friends, but one she said was a bit annoying. She mentioned her a number of times. What she didn't care about her was this girl acted alot like the Cher character on Clueless (the blonde, ditzy, wealthy, spoiled girl). After hearing about her for a long time, I met her. She was a dark skinned African American girl. My daughter didn't think to point that out and I wouldn't have guessed by her comparison. Children LEARN to point out differences, they don't do it on their own. As a young adult she has thanked me numerous times for not having raised her in a small town, which relatives were pressuring me to do. I'll leave it at that.
04:45 PM on 08/01/2012
I am kind of annoyed by the fact that the radical-right Christian hate groups seem to have usurped the word "family" when they couldn't possibly be more anti-family.
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Alisa Neely
i SUPPORT GAY RIGHTS....EQUAL RIGHTS really....i f
02:06 AM on 08/02/2012
i agree.....they spend alot of time being against gays and gay marriage....but, DON'T work to make divorce ILLEGAL.....which is the BIGGEST threat to marriage .

alisa
09:47 AM on 08/02/2012
Would you consider Christian hate groups to be a minority in the Christian world? How about Muslim groups for that matter (the ones that behead)?

Christian's in general are not anti-family, not by a long shot.
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JustMyWords
04:42 PM on 08/04/2012
And your point?

'Christians in general are not anti-family, not by a long shot.' Hence the reason that shenanigan77 referred specifically to the 'radical-right Christian hate groups.'
04:33 PM on 08/01/2012
When my son was 2 years old, I explained to him that some children have a mommy and a daddy, like him, but others may have only one mommy or just one daddy (single parents). Others may have 2 daddys or 2 mommys (gay parents). Made total sense to him. No big deal. He got it then and he still gets it now at almost 5. Ask him to tell you "about the different kinds of families" and he will tell you this, just like he would tell you about his favorite color. I think that because parents (AKA adults) have a hard time adjusting they project it onto kids.
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Alisa Neely
i SUPPORT GAY RIGHTS....EQUAL RIGHTS really....i f
02:09 AM on 08/02/2012
i agree with you....and i also think, that's where kids learn that it's alright to bully.....name calling and so forth......you handled your son and the topic of families VERY WELL.

alisa
12:33 PM on 08/02/2012
Thank you
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ftkl1234
04:31 PM on 08/01/2012
Submitting a few thoughts:

1) Stay age appropriate, remember who your'e talking to and what they can understand at that point in their lives.

2) Start with finding out what they already know, start from there by finding out what they understand and what they want to know. Keep answers and explanations simple.

3) Keep it positive, avoid scariness but talk about risky behavior (a bit).

4) With teens, mention it's OK to be confused and clueless. Communicating with other clearly is crucial.

5) The way mom and dad express their relationship says a whole lot, more than any words will say. The kids are watching and noticing that.

These are my humble and limited thoughts on this profound mystery of life.
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Jennifer Mead
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07:20 PM on 08/01/2012
The only new that your post said was about risky behavior, which is a code name for hatred. Shame on you, this article was perfect.
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Alisa Neely
i SUPPORT GAY RIGHTS....EQUAL RIGHTS really....i f
02:16 AM on 08/02/2012
there is NOTHING wrong with talking about "SAFE SEX"....that falls under "risky behavior".....some parents worry about talking about these things....because they think, their gonna be giving their kids "the OKEY" to go have sex.....your perparing them, in case they DECIDE to have sex.....hopefully, their "making LOVE" with the person they LOVE.

alisa
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Alisa Neely
i SUPPORT GAY RIGHTS....EQUAL RIGHTS really....i f
02:13 AM on 08/02/2012
all very good rules......i agree.....if kids DON'T see or hear the adults in their lives don't hug or kiss each other....they won't understand what LOVE really is.....let your kids hear you say to your spouse that "you LOVE them".....DON'T give them a mixed messages.....i.e. hitting them or each other follwoed with; "i love you".

jmo.

alisa
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PalaceOfWisdom
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04:12 PM on 08/01/2012
"For most children and, for that matter, teenagers, being "different" is undesirable."

This is the only part of the article that raised an eyebrow for me. That doesn't get any easier in adulthood, and in some ways it's actually worse. Ask a twenty-something who doesn't party or sleep around whether being different is celebrated. Ask an unmarried woman in her mid-thirties how she is viewed, same for not having kids. Ask a single man at any age who is not a womanizer whether he feels free to be true to himself without judgment. Society never stops telling people who they're supposed to be and what they're supposed to want. Kids should learn how to deal with pressure to conform because it will be there throughout their lives.
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03:47 PM on 08/01/2012
Sometimes when you're teaching your children how to relate to gay people, you're telling them how to relate to themselves.
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LeftRight
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03:22 PM on 08/01/2012
Reminds me of the time my wife told me about her oldest daughter coming home from school having made a new best friend. She asked her to describe her and she went into how wonderful she was. Then my wife asked what she looked like and she said "Just like me!"

My wife (and of course, her daughter...) is of middle eastern descent. This girl has pretty much the darkest skin I've ever seen.

That's real progress when a child doesn't even know that there IS such a difference!
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Greg Albright
03:50 PM on 08/01/2012
Your story reminds me of the time I went to the Detroit Science museum with my son. A little old black woman was taking tickets for the exhibit, which i didn't realize I needed, and she took my son onto her lap and said "Do you see anything different about me?" To which my son replied, "You are really old and a stranger, and you have me sitting your lap" and she laughed and said "The dream is alive!" and let us into the exhibit for free:P
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Zilo
Indie--The GOP opposes critical thinking
05:15 PM on 08/01/2012
That's funny.
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dkelban
02:59 PM on 08/01/2012
Right on. Too bad there are so many bigots around.
01:46 PM on 08/01/2012
We raised our family in the Bay Area. Two daddies or mommies was the normal. I'm not sure we ever really discussed it. It was just life.

My parents live in San Francisco, and one day my youngest son and I drove in to visit my parents. Our older four children were all in school, so this was a treat for our then 3 year old. My parents live in the No. Beach area, and my mother suggested a walk to the bakery and a cup of espresso. On our walk we passed two young men, they embraced, gave each other a kiss and walked slightly ahead of us with their arms around each other. My son ran up ahead, tugged on one man's arm and asked "does you love him?". The gentleman looked back at me, and I nodded my head. He crouched down and said "yes", my son smiled, responded "good" and ran back to me.

We never discussed it, he had a simple question, it wasn't about gender, it wasn't about right or wrong, or societal beliefs. He wanted to know about love.
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Zilo
Indie--The GOP opposes critical thinking
05:16 PM on 08/01/2012
That's so sweet.
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giftsthatpurr
zestful life
05:16 PM on 08/01/2012
fanned