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Mom and Dad and TMI: Are You an Over-Sharer?

Posted: 10/05/2012 10:36 am

Twelve-year-old Jessie knows how her dad, Sam, feels about her grandmother, Sam's mother-in-law. Exactly how he feels. "I think she's great, but my dad always talks about how judgmental, critical, and demanding she is," says Jessie. "Sometimes I guess she makes my mom feel bad. Whenever she's coming for a visit, my dad gets stressed out." Most times, Sam says, he uses a joking tone when bashing his mother-in-law. Other times, he admits, he is straight-up biting.

We're always hearing about children and teenagers who share too much: with their friends; with their parents; online, with the world. But what happens when it's Mom and Dad dabbling in TMI? How do we know how much--and what sort of--information our kids can handle?

Thanks to Facebook, Twitter, Instagram, and all the rest of social media, we have quickly grown accustomed to the concept of over sharing. Revealing the most mundane details of our daily lives--not to mention our formerly private innermost thoughts--feels normal to us; it's what people do. But this lack of boundaries has also resulted in a generation of mothers and fathers who share too much with their kids, from too-early talks about sex to what we really think about the neighbor, the high school math teacher, or Grandma.

Part of this tendency stems from a desire to be close to, and connect with, our children. We think that sharing secrets, or interacting with kids as we might other adults, breeds a level of intimacy. In some ways, it does: Sharing some personal information with your child is necessary in order to build trust. But children aren't meant to play the role of confidante to their parents. They're not meant to be your sounding board, and they can't process information in the same way you do. You might have spotted the school principal last weekend hitting on a woman that wasn't his wife. But that's news for you--and not your kids--to deal with.

That's because kids, even older ones, aren't intellectually or emotionally prepared to shoulder the burden of TMI. They don't have the capacity to try to figure out how they should react--or why--to what you're telling them. What's more, they're terrible at keeping secrets. You can say, "Dad and I are having an argument." You can't say, "I think your father is having an affair." Similarly, it's okay to tell a child, "We can't afford that" if you can't. But not "I just don't know how we're going to pay the mortgage this month."

Jenna and Bart divorced when their son, Luke, was a baby. Bart has remarried; Jenna has not. And she's told 8-year-old Luke that she never will, a statement he's since repeated to most anyone who asks about his mother. Perhaps Jenna's confiding in Luke was a way of differentiating herself from Bart, the "bad parent" who had left. Or maybe it was just something she wanted to share. At 8, however, Luke is too young to know how to process this information, and what it means to him.

Divorced parents will frequently use over sharing when competing for a child's affections, which puts the child in the middle. (This can happen even when both parents aren't outwardly bashing the other, just as it can happen between parents who are still married.) At times, Luke will tell Bart that he is unable to play with him because "Mommy says you lie." Katie was a 15-year-old who told me she couldn't live with her mother because she was "passive aggressive and controlling." Those were words she got from her father, and they were words that Katie used against her mother, especially as she got older. One day, she would also use those words against her dad.

Here, we see how over sharing can disrupt the natural order of the parent-child dynamic. When you make your child your confidante, you're sending the message that you and she make decisions together. This, of course, is not true. While you should encourage your child to assert her opinion, you, as parent, make decisions--even minor ones. Too much information leads a child to believe that he or she has a role in the decision making, reducing your authority and skewing your child's view of the world and how things work.

It's easy to think that by telling your child things, he will, in turn, tell you things. Sometimes that's the case. More often, it's not. What's more, it's important for kids to individuate from their parents--and important for parents to learn to let their kids do that. Many parents use over sharing to try to halt this very necessary process. But kids aren't our friends; they are still learning to be friends to others. It's important that you provide that model. To do that, give your kids enough information to meet their age-appropriate needs, and to keep them safe. They don't need to be freaked out, worried, or caught in the middle between adults. They're kids. Don't take that away from them.

This first appeared on Psychology Today.

 
 
 

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09:17 PM on 10/08/2012
I wrote about 4 paragraphs explaining what I thought was completely incorrect about this article. And then I realized something. Raise your child how you see fit people. Use some common sense and give them more love than they can stand and they'll be just fine. If you think you shouldn't tell them something, don't. If you think you should then do. More often then not you'll be on point. It's when people don't think first that their kids come out messed up... So just think People.... Enjoy
07:24 PM on 10/08/2012
I agree that some parents share tmi with their kids. It's tempting. They are a captive audience and, even as teenagers, they believe what their parents say.

There have been many times wherenive wanted a confidante I. My 11 year old daughter. She is thoughtfful, kind and fun and can easily pass as a buddy. Someday, when she grows up, we may be able to have that sortmofmrelationship. I don't know. But now she is a little girl that I could really screw with if I'm not careful. She's as we'll balanced as she is because we are not buddies. I'm here to support her and prepare her for adulthood, not to add a member to my fan club.
01:00 PM on 10/08/2012
Here, we see how over sharing can disrupt the natural order of the parent-child dynamic. When you make your child your confidante, you're sending the message that you and she make decisions together. This, of course, is not true. While you should encourage your child to assert her opinion, you, as parent, make decisions--even minor ones. Too much information leads a child to believe that he or she has a role in the decision making, reducing your authority and skewing your child's view of the world and how things work.

This is a kind of bizzare paragraph. Children do have roles in decision making - at different levels depending on their age and maturity. They do not *always* have an equal voice, depending on the issue (a toy vs. finances, for example) but the 'natural order' is not always; parents decide everything, children are passive objects.

I think the confusion seems to be for many parents today is assuming that the relationship between a parent and child is the same as between two adults (or two children) - a friendship. As the article says in the end, parents are not their children's friends, not because the relationship is supposed to be advesarial but because a parent-child relationship is different from a friendship.
botazefa
Sounds like Bodhisattva
12:25 PM on 10/08/2012
There's another component to this, I think. Parents who share too much with their children are turning their children into an audience, maybe so the parent can be on stage. In this way, the parent is being very self-serving.

We should be audience to our children, providing appropriate feedback to help guide their performance. Our time on stage has passed, in terms of receiving acceptance untethered acceptance. When a parent shares too much with his or her child, the parent is turning the child into his or her parent, which has wicked outcome even if the motivation seems harmless.
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pab08
Partisan agendas can't compete with objective fact
06:39 PM on 10/07/2012
It is unfortuate that adults do not respect themselves and their children when they talk about other people in front of their children. It is especially sad when they attempt to use their children in their petty disputes with ex-spouses, relatives, others...

I make a determined effort to NEVER speak ill about my ex-wife in front of our children. It is a source of frustration to me that my ex does not follow the same path. But, I should have known better. When we were married, she would insist on screaming at me in front of the children. When I would fcalmly say, "lower your voice in front of the children," or "let's take this outside where the children can't hear," she would scream louder that I was a bully trying to tell her what to do.

There is little you can do when people put their own emotions, feelings, needs and anger before any sort of rational common sense and care for their children.
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LisaCACO
someone ate my micro-bio!
05:46 PM on 10/07/2012
your kids are your kids, not your best friends.
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Anabelle Lee
01:27 PM on 10/07/2012
People do not express hate or disgust towards another person unless they feel threatened.
If they are good people then the threat is real and this should always be shared with family members.
If they are bad people who see anyone getting in the way of what they want as a threat then they do not really care about their children or anyone else that much compared to their own emotional comfort, so this advice would be ignored.
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millebocca
veni, vidi, clicki
11:24 AM on 10/07/2012
oh my
the times i've had to listen in great, picturesque detail about my elderly mother's post-shower drying off process....
and years ago, it was a non-stop litany of hearing her complain about my dad.
and then her telling me and my sister how we were just like our dad.
(and yes, i did call her out on that, even as a child)
my mother taught me well what NOT to do.
so it goes. thanks goes to intelligence and hard-won personal evolution that helps override all of the bs imprinting our parents dealt any of us.
08:28 PM on 10/07/2012
I guess a good response from a child at that moment of being compared to Dad, might be "If I'm like Dad, then who are you like?", or simply give in and say "well, Dad and I are related." Children who are that clever probably don't survive until their 18th birthday, though, unless they can dodge the parental slaps.
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12:25 AM on 10/07/2012
I agree that making a child a confidante is a spot-on no no. But not because it diminishes authority. It does put an undue burden on the child. Growing up as an only-child product of an often tumultuous marriage, I was the sounding board for my parents' hates and regrets about their relationship. That venting didn't accomplish anything, except to make a 15-year-old feel like she was responsible for fixing her parents' marriage or behavior. The most important lessons growing up were learning what were- and what were not - your problems.
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millebocca
veni, vidi, clicki
11:26 AM on 10/07/2012
i have a sibling who to this day pays for the wedge role she was forced to play as a kid.
our parents can choose, as kids, we/they cannot.
it is not a just playing field.
may we as parents break that cycle.
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SenseAndSensitivity
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11:52 AM on 10/08/2012
Here here, millebocca. May we not make the same mistakes.
11:57 PM on 10/06/2012
Parents often think that telling their children everything is a good thing. What they don't understand is that children of any age, don't have the experience, coping skills, and practical judgement necessary in making decisions. Many adult issues in life do not have a black and white answer. Yet children seek this consistency. What parents should model is the process of making a decision and adjusting to the new situation. That promotes the idea that one has the power to cope and make things work.
11:54 PM on 10/06/2012
Parents know this, kids hear everything, and remember everything - more than you'd think. So that relative you complain about - they'll remember. Those names you yell at your spouse - they'll remember.
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chatnuptime1
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11:34 PM on 10/06/2012
Signs your going into the land of TMI..
Your kids get up and leave the room
The eyes roll
There is an embarrasing look or blush surfacing on your childs face.
The deer in the headlights look.
The Wowa lets not go there objections.
The toddler antic of sticking fingers in ears and going la la la la la..
luckybear
Coffee Drinker
09:11 PM on 10/06/2012
I think professors Parker and Stone explain TMI straightforwardly in their great CO lecture series (warning this involves math).

http://www.southparkstudios.com/clips/386587/the-tmi
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Eileenla
Author, "Sacred Economics"
09:05 PM on 10/06/2012
What this article is really referring to isn't TMI - it's about people gossiping about others behind their back, rather than having the integrity to confront the person with whom they are in conflict directly, to resolve the issue. That's a problem for us to deal with at any age. Even at my age, I don't like it when people try to tell me toxic things about other people. I prefer them to address their concerns face to face with the other person, or keep their own experience to themselves and let me have mine with the individual in question.

When we are better at conscious communication, there's no need to "vent" to kids, or anyone else, about the stuff we dislike about other people. We manage our own relationships one on one, and figure them out with directness and the desire to move beyond whatever is creating distance between us and the other person.
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04:32 AM on 10/08/2012
Nicely put, but I think the author was also trying to say, if that's what you're doing that's what your teaching.
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04:42 AM on 10/08/2012
So nicely put, I often feel the same way when is some one is 'venting' on me. I may not be a child but even so I still don't need to hear it.
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django707
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04:47 PM on 10/06/2012
Guilty as charged.