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When Dad Encroaches on Mom's World: One Mother's Story of Acceptance

Posted: 06/22/11 05:18 PM ET

A few years ago, I got an early look at the changing worlds of fathers and daughters.

My husband, a world-class dad by any definition, was taking my then middle-school-aged daughter and two friends to a dance. The unbroken chatter and giggling from the back seat suddenly stopped. He stole a glance in the rear view mirror and saw our daughter whispering behind her cupped hand in the ear of one friend, while the other -- somewhat forlornly, he thought -- busied herself looking out the window.

When they got to the dance, he took our daughter aside for a quick refresher on how it feels to be left out -- and why friends don't do that.

A small moment. I'm not sure we ever found out what the whispers were about. But as he told me the story, it struck me that there was a time when many fathers would have let it go -- or told mom to have a few words with her.

Many still would. But still more are likely to move into parts of a daughter's life where fathers past might fear to tread.

As daughters make more room for fathers in their lives, does that mean less room for mothers? Love is all embracing. But in the lives of young girls, emotional attention span is often limited. You can only roll your eyes at one parent at a time.

I experienced the collision of worlds when my husband was between jobs. He had the chance to spend time with our young daughter that usually isn't available to a man who gets so busy he forgets to have lunch. All of a sudden, he was having breakfast with her, taking her to school, going on class trips, even going shopping.

In other words, the sovereign state of motherhood had been invaded by a foreign occupier. My husband soon took another job. And I regained my rightful place.

But it was a sign of things to come. Their bond has grown through the years. They steal off for early-morning coffee. They sing loudly and badly to Kanye West in the car. Over the years she has been drawn to his work, and has been good at every assignment -- with a work ethic that makes her father beam.

Like a lot of mothers who see the worlds of fathers and daughters coming closer together, I have had to fight the feeling of being a displaced parent -- with territory deeded to me now shared with a new kind of father, who is relating to a new kind of daughter.

But as I examined my feelings (psychologists tend to do that) on my husband's growing place in my daughter's world, I slowly found perspective.

Their closeness is a good thing. Very good. Divisional parenting -- I do this, you do that -- is a relic on the same pile as all the other gender assumptions. Besides, I know I can talk to my daughter about anything my husband can. And there are some areas that will be a place for mothers and daughters alone.

My advice to all those who are newly sharing custody of a daughter's time and enthusiasm: Hang in there, moms. Fathers are now in the game. But you are irreplaceable.

This first appeared TODAYMoms.

Dr. Peggy Drexler is a research psychologist, an assistant professor of psychology in psychiatry at Weill Medical College of Cornell University, and author Our Fathers, Ourselves: Daughters, Fathers, and the Changing American Family (Rodale, May 2011). Follow Peggy on Twitter and Facebook and learn more about Peggy at www.peggydrexler.com.

 
 
 

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KaraC
Trans lesbian, atheist and humanist
02:10 PM on 06/27/2011
I think one of the best things a father can do for his daughter is be a model of how a good husband interacts with is wife. Kids from abusive relationships can sometimes model this in their own relationships in later life. By showing what a loving, equal and respectful partnership is like, your daughter is not likely to settle for anything less for herself. Interesting article. I would like to see a similar one for same-sex couples but the author is speaking from her own experience, which is perfectly fair.
01:36 PM on 06/28/2011
But if your wife is abusive, neglectful and overwhelmingly negative, watch out, because she is still the victim and you are the oppressor, regardless of how much she abuses you or the kids.
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KaraC
Trans lesbian, atheist and humanist
02:56 PM on 06/28/2011
Tha sort of behaviour is wrong from either partner. Unequivocally wrong, period, and I have not and would not defend abuse from either partner toward the other or the children.

My comment was on the role of a good father which is what the article talks about, though of course "loving, equal and respectful partnershi­p" implies both partners should act that way.
11:36 PM on 06/26/2011
Please do this same story for Gay men and Lesbians co-parenting.
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Peggy Drexler
03:59 PM on 06/27/2011
Please see my book "Raising Boys Without Men" (Rodale 2005, 2006), go to my website www.peggydrexler.com and to my .Face Book: http://www.facebook.com/DrPeggyDrexler and to my Archived website: www.peggydrexler.com/original/.
03:41 AM on 06/26/2011
"In other words, the sovereign state of motherhood had been invaded by a foreign occupier."

I know how you feel. When I went to work the other day, there were actually WOMEN in my office!
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WilliamL
09:06 PM on 06/25/2011
I have been a stay at home dad for our two daughters since they were both born. It is interesting to see how men are accussed of either being absent or uninvolved and at the same time they are told they encroach upon mothers. Recognizing that stay at home dads are a small percentage of fathers, it is still interesting to see such an attitude towards fathers.

After the thousands of diapers I have changed and the years I have done caring for two daughters since the oldest was five months old and the youngest was born, I will admit that I have little patience with any woman, mother, Ph D or not, laying claim to the domain that a father can or sd not step into.

A father's presence and value in their daughters life goes beyond a financial contribution and tending to domestic chores around the home. Men, fathers, husbands deserve a lot more respect and consideration for their role in the lives of their daughters that what is expressed here.
02:07 PM on 06/23/2011
Wow, you snarky commenters. My take on this article is appreciation for the authors honest struggle and reflection of a daughters evolving relationship with mom & dad, giving respect and import to parental wisdom coming from both. And how nice to more equally share the hot seat; 'you can only roll your eyes at one parent at a time.' Still bet that's a ways from being truly equal.
jusathot
a mother from another mother
11:55 AM on 06/23/2011
Learn to read everything in the article, then attack the writer, if you must.
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CTSnowman
US Navy & Army vet and proud liberal
09:40 AM on 06/23/2011
This Dr. has issues. "Fathers are now in the game. But you are irreplaceable."
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SpareChangeHope
Sparing hope pays to change..
09:10 AM on 06/23/2011
I live by one simple axiom ( with my daughters or otherwise ) - tell the truth.

In so doing , I find that my daughters cross over with their discussions , time spent and expectations with me that were normally the perview of their mom's. ( and vice versa of course )

They pick and choose what they want to hear on any given day . ( lol ) I am not a push over for compliments about what they wear or what they have done and the like. ( Neither is Mom for that matter ) The bottom line is that they know they have the freedom to come and go with anything in their daily lives and neither Mom or I will get bent out of shape if one or the other is more popular for any given situation.

The modern family has to continuously adjust with ever changing roles ( not only for the parents ,but for the kids as well ) and the only way they are going to survive is by working together:
- with love
- with commitment
- with truth and respect for honesty
and without the labels.
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02:25 AM on 06/23/2011
Good fathers have always been "in the game" in one way or another. Hang in there? Better yet - get some perspective.

And ideally, BOTH parents should be irreplaceable.
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RButler
"Who wouldn't love a person who had a pony?"
12:23 AM on 06/23/2011
Oh, brother. Another gyno-centric article by a female psychologist as though she discovered a new phenomenon that millions of other parents have had learn and deal with for centuries. Nothing to see here, folks
03:55 AM on 06/23/2011
It seems that even when it comes to father and daughter relationships, the female perspective is deemed most interesting and noteworthy. God forbid we have an article written by a man for other men.
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thinkingwomanmillstone
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08:29 AM on 06/23/2011
I don't agree with your anti female take on this but I do think that not everything needs to be a drama in life. I've raised three children with a very involved father and never considered it a contest for affection. As a psychotherapist, I guess Dr Drexler sees people who are having trouble coping with relationships and is generalizing it to the whole population. Judging be this article, she has some issues herself. How can any well adjusted parent look at a happy close relationship between his/her child and that child's other parent and see it as a competition....it seems to be a very immature take on the whole idea of love and parenting.
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Robert Turner
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09:01 PM on 06/22/2011
Dads should always be "in the game". Daughters don't know about the past and only our social normified sexism tells us that dad + sons, mom + daughters is right and any other mixture thereof is wrong. There shouldn't be a competition between mom and dad for the love of any child, regardless of gender. Both parents are supposed to be supporting one another as well as each child, equally in love. I am a proud father of a beautiful baby girl. Because of my wife's job, I spend way more time with her than my wife, initially a heart aching realization for the wife. But our marriage is based on equal responsibilities as well as equal love. We both play equally significant roles in our daughter's life and that won't change as she gets older. Sure, like any tween or teen, she'll surely attempt to play the parts against one another, but she'll learn as she grows up that we're equal and, hopefully, she'll trust us enough not to play us. There should be no competition. Moms, dads have to be there, too.