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7 Things the Amanda Knox Case Taught Us About Studying Abroad

Posted: 10/09/11 05:32 PM ET

Studying abroad is a great opportunity to learn about other cultures and yourself. However, the Amanda Knox case has prompted students to be more mindful of their actions abroad. In 2010, I had the opportunity to teach in Northern Italy and critically compare the Italian and U.S. court systems. As I prepare to teach in Italy next summer, here's a short list of items that students should know before leaving the States to their study abroad country:

1. Keep a translated statement to police in your pocketbook or wallet. Before my students travel, each of them will carry two copies of this statement, translated into Italian: My lawyer has advised me not to talk to anyone about any criminal matter. I do not wish to answer any questions without my lawyer in the room. I have the phone number for my lawyer with me.

Italian: Il mio avvocato mi ha consigliato di non parlare con nessuno qualcosa questione criminale. Non voglio rispondere ad alcuna domandai senza il mio avvocato nella stanza. Ho il numero di telefono per mio avvocato con me.

Why two copies? If you are detained for questioning and the copy you give the police disappears, you've got a backup copy to give to your lawyer as proof of your intent (as he or she moves to exclude a supposed confession from evidence). Make sure your faculty program director translates the statement above into your country's native language.

2. Keep the telephone number of a criminal lawyer with you. Every attorney in the world is listed in Martindale Hubbell. Identify a criminal attorney in the city you will be living in, and keep that name and number in your wallet or pocketbook.

3. Read non-fiction books which touch on the legal system in your country. Next summer, my students will be reading portions of The Monster of Florence and The Fatal Gift of Beauty: The Trials of Amanda Knox.

4. Respect the laws of the country you are visiting. Amanda Knox won her appeal, but she was convicted of criminal slander for alleged statements made about bartender Patrick Lumumba. In addition, an overzealous prosecutor charged her parents and her with criminal slander for statements made about the Italian police. In the United States, civil courts are the only remedy for slander, but continually remind yourself that you are not in your own country.

5. Keep the phone number of the closest U.S. Consulate General Office with you. My students will have this number in their wallets or pocketbooks: (+39) 055.266.951

6. Get an international driver's license before traveling. Even if you don't intend to rent a car, this document makes it easier for you to communicate with foreign authorities.

7. Exercise restraint in the face of inequity. Last month, I was at a pizzeria near the Santa Lucia train station in a very touristy area of Venice. The menu was in English and I ordered a pizza for a reasonable 7.50 Euros (about $10.00). When I handed the menu back to the English-speaking waiter, he asked if I wanted a small or large Coke. I went with the large, which turned out to be the size of an oil drum. When the check came, I was charged 11 EU (about $14.75) for the beverage. I calmly asked about the obvious error, but the waiter then pointed to the back of the menu that listed the large Coca Cola at 11 EU. I know that it was careless on my part, but I was ordering Cokes all week for a reasonable 3 EU. I gave the waiter a little ill-advised lip about his tourist trap, which he didn't like. He said I could take it up with the polizia. At that point, I did the smart thing: I bit my lip, paid with Euros instead of a credit card so he wouldn't know my name, and went on my way.

A caveat about lawyers and law professors: They are "worst case scenario" thinkers. Your study abroad experience will be fun, educational, and worry free, but it's always good to be prepared. And it's important to look at beverage prices on the back of menus!


Perry Binder, J.D. is a legal studies professor in Georgia State University's Robinson College of Business, who teaches law classes in Italy.

 
 
 
 
 
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jackbutler5555
10:09 AM on 10/28/2011
1. Which of the seven pieces of advice should travelers to foreign countries ignore? 2. Is it your position that those being questioned by police should merely answer the questions? 3. Was it prudent for Knox and Sollecito to submit to the police interrogation? 4. Do you believe Knox was fairly treated in Perugia?
01:27 PM on 10/18/2011
Yes, I see your point about seeing worst case scenarios. There is a saying that "good cases make bad law." This case may have a lot to teach but not about study abroad world wide. Students are more likely to lose their wallets than to be accused of murder so I would say easy on the crime books and unknown criminal lawyers. Anyone who has lived overseas as a student (including in conflict zones) knows that the most important thing a student should pack and keep with them at all times is their common sense.
11:49 AM on 10/17/2011
I don't think much of the self-promotional advice of this author. The advice I was given as an exchange student once upon a time, in a country unfriendly to the United States, would seem to apply still:

1. Remember that this country's laws aren't like ours and back out of troublesome situations if you see any. Feel free to call the consulate at any time. (This was before people had cell phone links to Mommy and Daddy, who might not actually know what to do)

2. Some situations that seem normal to you at home are very illegal here and are punished by years of imprisonment. If someone offers you marijuana or other drugs, leave the room. (While I did hear of a student on our program supposedly smoking pot with a local friend, that was one incident among 30 people over 3 months, not a nightly occurrence.)

3. You are here to meet the local people and learn about their culture, and that should be your first priority. (Not going to functions with Marines guarding the American Embassy, not hanging out with party people at some bar, etc. etc.)
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jackbutler5555
10:13 AM on 10/28/2011
What don't you like about the advice in this article? Which of the seven items would you advise travelers to ignore? What would you advise loved ones to do when being interrogated by local police?
11:02 PM on 10/28/2011
Errrr..... Tell the truth , Maybe?

For starters.
ZEB
never fear the zeb is ere
05:14 AM on 10/12/2011
What was written is just very good common sense.
There is one thing I would like add, which is very important, Never bring any thing back home for a stranger, and that means nothing, always tell them to post it, and be very firm about this but polite.
This rule is for you, if you are in the far east for the simple fact that this "gift may contain drugs".
08:13 PM on 10/11/2011
I would have "accidentally" spilled the drink as I left the restaurant and flicked my hand from under my chin. How's that for understanding the local customs? LOL
12:17 AM on 10/11/2011
Amen, Mr. Binder. My college age kids will not have automatic pass from me to study in Italy. And I won't be going back to italy for a vacation for while, maybe never. Good luck to their economy.
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Catherine in Tulsa
Not mother?
10:24 AM on 10/14/2011
I am sure they are going to feel the pinch from your family's lack of money going into their economy.
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Susan Shaffer
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04:16 PM on 10/15/2011
would you let your son date amanda?
would you let your daughter date Sollecito?
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Jennifer Zirn
Agree to disagree.
09:36 PM on 10/10/2011
Won't it be better safe than sorry. I think these are good guidelines to follow. Just because you follow these steps doesn't mean you can't still have fun in the other countries.
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Leebossa
06:51 PM on 10/10/2011
How about, don't assume that just because your're cute, american, with a nice wardrobe etc that everyone will like you?
or how about: don't automatically assume that foreign countries are the way they're portrayed in cute romantic comedies? that the world does not always have your best interests at heart, that life isn't Sex and The City, that not everyone is "nice"?
01:03 AM on 10/11/2011
I would say they would send you home immediately, after this!!

They did this to the author /critic -and he is still making a huge case of libel against the Prosecutor! It is ludicrous. If he is worried, stay away !!! Do not interfere in their National detective system.
I can't imagine the same thing happening here and what woukld happen.
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jackbutler5555
10:15 AM on 10/28/2011
Do you agree or disagree with the article's seven pieces of advice?
03:25 PM on 10/10/2011
Hmmm, your article seems to assume Knox was some typical naive american student who just had a typical run of bad luck in Italy. Give me a break. How many students get accused of MURDER abroad? And Knox was no typical student, according to what police and friends from her home town of Seattle have to say: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-498853/The-wild-raunchy-past-Foxy-Knoxy.html
01:04 AM on 10/11/2011
She's already been living in Japan. What is the cover up here that it is NEVER mentioned by anybody..
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Dale McLerran
08:27 PM on 10/12/2011
Not a typical run of bad luck. Extremely atypical bad luck.

I would have to agree that to the extent that what is written in the Daily Mail is accurate, that AKs behavior in the time immediately preceding her trip abroad was anything but model behavior. However, the kind of shenanigans that are attributed to her in the Daily Mail piece do not make her a murderess. But you probably think that since she and Raffaele had a couple of chaste kisses while the cameras were rolling, that makes her a murderess!
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Catherine in Tulsa
Not mother?
10:27 AM on 10/14/2011
No, but it is indicative of violent behavior - have you ever done anything close to throwing rocks in a road where there are cars driving? And then to tell cops you did it because you are going overseas?

And let me say that you have expressed more dismay over what happened to Knox than Knox ever displayed over what happened to Kercher.
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jackbutler5555
10:59 AM on 10/10/2011
Excellent advice, most of which should apply to Americans in the United States as well. 

How many young persons get arrested everyday and start talking with the police in the belief they can be trusted and that whatever they say would not be opportunistically communicated to a jury by that seemingly friendly police officer?
06:05 PM on 10/12/2011
Jack anymore on how the news networks don't pay for interviews?
http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/cutline/why-won-t-uproar-news-outlets-pay-amanda-221739532.html

Unfortunately for Knox to earn the big bucks that will have to be exclusive, pissing of the other newtworks. So what do you think these other networks will do? Now that she's out it's already old news, but in the chase for ratings maybe there are other tacks they could take. Maybe they might finally start looking at the evidence, maybe they might realise that they are a hell of a lot of outstanding questions that need answering. Bet your bottom dollar the network that stumps up the most for the exclusive won't be asking the tough questions, but let's see if the others get their teeth into it, afterall no-one likes being taken for a mug do they?
What chance a Knox lie detector test???
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jackbutler5555
06:39 PM on 10/12/2011
1.  There is nothing in your link that indicates the networks are paying for an interview with Amanda Knox.

2.  There is nothing in your link to indicate they paid for an interview with Casey Anthony.  If they tried to get around their ban on payment for interviews by licensing photos, that would be ethically wrong.  It would depend, in part, if they paid more than the market value for the pictures. But it is very shady indeed. However, ABC has not broadcast an "exclusive" interview with Anthony.   In any case, ABC has declared it would not be using any dodge to get an interview with Amanda Knox.

3.  If I were advising the Knox family, I would be pointing out that the big money isn't with the legitimate news outlets.  It's with the entertainment television industry or tabloid TV.  It's not just the money.  It's the ability to have some say on content.  However, I will point out when David Frost interviewed Nixon in a syndicate deal. Frost refused to negotiate content. 

4.  What's in it for Knox to take a lie detector test?  They are notoriously unreliable. 

5.  Whoever interviews Knox, the video falls into the public domain within minutes of its broadcast, under Fair Use case law..  So, that exclusivity business is perishable.  Excerpts will be all over the news broadcasts.
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jackbutler5555
03:09 PM on 10/14/2011
Fact:  ABC did not interview her.

Why don't you address directly my other points?
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Catherine in Tulsa
Not mother?
10:34 AM on 10/14/2011
You're playing this both ways - friendly police officer who hit her several times and interrogated her through the night? Which is it?
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jackbutler5555
01:29 PM on 10/14/2011
I was making a generalization about the caution to be taken in talking with police.

Did they do good-cop, bad-cop on her?  The technique is near a century old.  But given the fact they failed to record the interview, all we have are the conflicting accounts of the interrorgation.

I have the impression you think you are arguing with some monolithic opponent. You really have to know what I say before you can declare your opposition to it.   I have never commented on Knox's accusation she was hit during the interrorgation.  Reason: it was not recorded, a violation of police procedure.
01:42 AM on 10/19/2011
Cuffed on the back of the head -once I believe according to AK.
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Carol Gebert
09:07 AM on 10/10/2011
When I was preparing my travels, at the age of 19, I asked well-healed travelers for advice. I recall one telling me that if I ever saw any problem, then just walk away. If I was or was not involved, if I saw or did not see anything important, - walk away. He said "Justice in some of these countries does not involve catching the culprit. It just involves catching someone who can pay."
01:05 AM on 10/11/2011
One might be told that by Americans-in America!
01:42 AM on 10/19/2011
In WW2, maybe?
06:08 AM on 10/10/2011
What caused this was that an immature, sheltered and naive girl was thrust into a situation she was not in any way prepared to navigate. How many youngsters studying over seas fall into this category?
Think about Natalie Holloway. If she was more sophisticated, she too, would have known how to be wary of strangers & stay with her friends at all times.
Parents & learning institutions need to do a better job in teaching our students about the pit falls when leaving our country.
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Leebossa
06:54 PM on 10/10/2011
absolutely. I think far too many young women are so sheltered, so protected and have absolutely no street savvy. Even when they're NOT abroad! guys too, of course. But women are more vulnerable and not just young women. One woman I knew who was in her 40s was murdered in Mexico after meeting this 'lovely young man'. And she was a world traveller! Someone like natalee Holloway is a sitting duck for a sociopath; don't assume it can't happen because you're nice, religious, well brought up and have a lot of money.
01:06 AM on 10/11/2011
But they do have self respect and not leap into bed with the first few people they meet.
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Catherine in Tulsa
Not mother?
10:36 AM on 10/14/2011
so she decided to lie to cops from the beginning? I mean she's naive and sheltered and Jesuit educated - so she starts lying to law enforcement? Why doesn't that fit?
01:42 AM on 10/10/2011
If this was supposed to be funny, it's not. If it's supposed to be serious, it raises a lot of questions about the author. I would think that a law professor would understand that someone who claimed to have witnessed a provably innocent person committing the murder, who knew the cause of death and that the victim had been sexually assaulted before the coroner's report was released, who later confessed to being involved, whose DNA was mixed in with the victim's blood in several different rooms, who lied about what she was doing at the time of the murder, and who either deliberately or inadvertently destroyed evidence would be a legitimate suspect.
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Carol Gebert
09:09 AM on 10/10/2011
But would they be a legitimate suspect before the police coerced them into saying these things? Amanda's mistake was not packing up immediately and going home, like her other roommates.
03:45 PM on 10/10/2011
And what makes you think Amanda Knox was free to immediately leave Italy? Since she was a suspect, they probably told her not to leave town and kept her under surveillance--which was easy to do considering how "high profile" she chose to make herself.
01:39 AM on 10/15/2011
Ummm, Amanda's other roommates did not "pack up immediately and go home". They actually both were Italian. But I guess that making up "facts" helps you believe what you want to believe.

The only evidence that the police "coerced" Amanda into saying anything is Amanda's claim. And given how many other things that she lied about (what she did the night of the murder, what she did the morning after, who she called, when the police were called), why should she be believed on this? Amanda became a suspect because while being interviewed as a witness she mentioned things about the murder that had not been made public.
09:38 AM on 10/10/2011
All of what you say can be disputed, so why do you state it as if it is fact? Here is a fact: Rudy fled the country. Here is another: Amanda did not flee the country, allowed herself to be interrogated and did not ask for a lawyer. So guess what I conclude.
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Catherine in Tulsa
Not mother?
04:34 PM on 10/10/2011
she was a suspect from the time they found the body - why? because she lied to the police. She acted as if nothing was going on, when all around her people were visibly crying and upset over the very brutal murder of a young woman. She did cartwheels.
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Susan Shaffer
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08:30 PM on 10/10/2011
and yet all the british girls who were amanda's friends also fled the country and they had rock solid alibis.
11:51 PM on 10/09/2011
I liked the article, thanks. As for Amanda Knox I do not think she is sweet and innocent. I don't know if she was part of the murder or not but I would like to know how her boyfriend's DNA wound up on Meredith's bra if they were not there. Sex game gone wrong still seems like the logical possibility here.
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jackbutler5555
11:26 AM on 10/10/2011
When you catch up with the news, you'll know that there was no DNA evidence Sollecito's DNA was on the bra clasp.  The police forensic findings were ridiculed by independent, DNA experts appointed by the judge.
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Catherine in Tulsa
Not mother?
04:35 PM on 10/10/2011
there was DNA on the bra - they independents just said there wasnt' enough to test again. Not the same.

They are guilty.
01:10 AM on 10/11/2011
I have read that hios DNA was there in the greatest degree although there were others.
09:34 PM on 10/09/2011
I am glad to see someone writing about this topic. As a seasoned study abroad professional, I have been shocked by how little this case has "woken up" those in charge of developing safety policies and processes for students on study abroad. Regardless of whether Amanda Knox was on a program with U of Washington or not, this case should have slapped all of us who work in study abroad/student safety in the face. Here is a piece I wrote back in 2010 about the subject: http://melibeeglobal.com/2010/11/how-has-the-amanda-knox-case-impacted-study-abroad/
I hope, that in time, Ms. Knox speaks out about how she feels she could have been more prepared to handle an emergency abroad. Clearly, her trust in the authorities (as in the US we are told that police are the people we go to for help - from the time that we are children - and that we are to unconditionally trust them) was a contributing factor in her imprisonment. (She wanted to "stay to help them solve the crime.") Thank you for writing this piece Mr. Binder and for raising awareness!
03:59 PM on 10/10/2011
As a former student at UW, I can tell you that binge drinking and violent sex/drug/drinking parties are the norm on and around the UW campus. UW attracts students who are aware of the UW's lax policies on drinking, drugs and wild partying. In fact, Amanda Knox was arrested for throwing a sex/drug party that turned so violent that police arrested her (something the arresting officer said they rarely do with students unless they believe a serious crime was committed).UW officials enable this sort of behavior and do absolutely nothing about complaints. So big surprise when one of their undergrads ends up in the middle of this sort of trouble abroad. UW should be ashamed of itself, that it enables this violent, substance-abusing culture.
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Catherine in Tulsa
Not mother?
04:37 PM on 10/10/2011
no! can't be! she's innocent and pretty and all of these things must be lies! You must just be "jealous of her lifestyle" as one poster put it.

How can we find documentation on the prior arrest? I'm sure ABC will never broadcast anything about it.
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Susan Shaffer
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08:33 PM on 10/10/2011
and parents pay good money for these college educations