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Peter Clothier

Peter Clothier

Posted: September 7, 2010 04:58 PM

Don't Dis the Dems

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Don't diss the Dems ... not now, when there's so much at stake. Remember how we liberal folk liked to scoff at Reagan's "eleventh commandment"? Thou shalt not speak ill of thy fellow Republican? Take a look in the rear view mirror and note how the Republicans have taken this seriously (it's a shame they took the rest of Reaganism seriously too, or we wouldn't be in the mess we are now!) Note, too, that it has resulted in the rigid party unity that now successfully hamstrings the whole country.

Successful strategy? You bet! Yet here we go again, we Democrats, gleefully assaulting each other at every opportunity and undermining every effort by our own administration to get anything done. And it's not only the Democrats in Congress. It's we, the people out here in voter-land. Every day I hear and read this indignant, self-important, self-destructive screed from bloggers, acquaintances, even friends who should know better. Just yesterday I heard -- from a fellow Democrat and one who, I believe, believes as I do -- that Obama is a "warmonger." That he's a "politician," no different from the others who disappoint our lofty ideals.

Well, yeah! Big surprise! Had he not been a politician, he would never have been elected. As for the "warmonger" part, it seems to me naive in the extreme to expect immediate departure from all parts of the world where we have stirred the hornets' nest of violence and hatred -- directed, for the most part, against ourselves. (It's not paranoia: they are out to get us!) My own instinct is to believe that Obama loathes war as much as I do. That, if he could, he would bring our fighting forces home tomorrow; deliver universal health care overnight; devote the federal money needed to stimulate our desperately ailing economy; and without delay divert the funds needed into our education system, into job creation and justice, earth stewardship, world peace...

Have these people who carp at Obama bothered to read either one -- or both -- of his books? Have they really taken the trouble to find out who this man is? Not a superhero, certainly. Not a Messiah. Nor a witch-doctor or miracle-maker. And certainly a politician. Granted. The man's a pragmatist. Advertised himself as such, never claimed to be anything but. He weighs what can be done and does his best to get the result he wants. That he faces sullen and implacable opposition from the "loyal opposition" makes it hard to get those results. That he faces a lack of solidarity in his own party makes it nigh impossible. It amazes me that he has managed to achieve as much as he has done, these past twenty months or so -- achievements that are sniffed at or ignored by those who believe they know better.

No one is, or should be, above criticism. Like others who believe as I do, I would want faster and more tangible results. I want, particularly, an end to war. But we left-leaning people elected this man to do precisely what he said he would attempt to do, and many of us now join in the chorus of those who would destroy him simply because he has not been able to do it fast enough to satisfy our high-minded expectations. I want to scream when I hear these nay-sayers and lofty idealists say that Obama and the Democrats will deserve the loss they can expect to be handed in November -- as though they themselves have no responsibility.

I say, these people will be as much to blame for an electoral defeat as those they choose to heap their blame upon. I happen to deplore the lock-step discipline of Republican lawmakers and Republican voters alike. I happen to disagree fundamentally with their positions ... and fear their (to me incomprehensible) power. But on my side of the political fence, I see nothing to be happy about. Will those who are now so dissatisfied be content when we end up with a Republican-dominated Congress? Will they relish the vindication of their own opinions and predictions? The spectacle of Obama rendered effectively and truly powerless is the one that haunts me much more than the spectacle of Obama struggling against the odds to achieve a modicum of success.

There's a certain satisfaction in believing in one's own moral rectitude -- in standing by one's ideals no matter what. Unfortunately, we seem to have reached a historical moment when the "art of the possible" is severely reduced by the press of rigid and irreconcilable differences. If we fail to be realistic, if we fail to achieve the solidarity we need to move forward, I fear we we all be a good deal sorrier than we are today. We must learn to moderate our rhetoric and take a broader, more realistic view of things if we are to inch forward, ever so slowly, into a viable future for this country. That "change we can believe in" will not happen with the wave of a magician's wand.

 
 
 
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04:48 PM on 09/08/2010
Wow! Someone who wants us to like getting kicked in the head and to ask for more! Sorry, but Obama is NOT a Democrat except in name only, and the Democratic Party has abandoned the left and the progressive center in favor of the big banks, the big corporations and the big campaign donors.

WE are not dissing the Dems. THEY have dissed their own party's history of fighting for the working people.
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12:46 PM on 09/08/2010
Dear Peter: You write "The man's a pragmatist."

Successful leadership and "pragmatism" are mutually exclusive. A Fortune 500 CEO doesn't come into his/her job asking "How much profit can we get away with?" They carry high expectations of themselves and their managers. Likewise, a successful president doesn't come into the office asking "What will the Republicans and Bluedogs let me get away with."

A successful President comes in and declares, "This is what I was elected to do. This is how we're going to get there. If you want on the train, great. If you fight me, I'll kick your rear end."

And the "pragmatic" President is failing because he thinks like you want him to, not like he should.
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12:42 PM on 09/08/2010
Dear Peter: You write "The man's a pragmatist."

Successful leadership and "pragmatism" are mutually exclusive. A Fortune 500 CEO doesn't come into his/her job asking "How much profit can we get away with?" They carry high expectations of themselves and their managers. Likewise, a successful president doesn't come into the office asking "What will the Republicans and Bluedogs let me get away with."

A successful President comes in and declares, "This is what I was elected to do. This is how we're going to get there. If you want on the train, great. If you fight me, I'll kick your a$$."

And the "pragmatic" President is failing because he thinks like you want him to, not like he should.
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11:53 AM on 09/08/2010
Instead of trying to convince the left not to "dis the dems" how about you spend a little more time trying to convince the Democrats not to kick the Left to the curb the day after the election.  Progressives and Liberals HANDED the Democrats congress in 2007 and the White House in 2009.  And in return we got health care reform KILLED, more war, kept the Bush tax cuts, kept the Bush war on civil rights, kept Guantanamo, kept gays as second class citizens, MASSIVE infusions of corporate welfare, and crumbs for main street.

Obama and the DLC LOATHE the left and they speak for the Democratic party.  Quit pretending it's OUR duty to overlook this and support them no matter what.
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12:44 PM on 09/08/2010
As usual, JMPurser has it spot on.
10:41 AM on 09/08/2010
When the Republican base found that they were not served by the Party leadership, they stopped voting for them in general elections and primaried them. That's how the Republican Party became united - not by the voters obeying the top, but by their representatives obeying the voters.

Obama is a (corporate) centrist. He believes in trickle-down economics - hence the preponderance of tax cuts in the legislation he proposed. But he was elected by a coalition, and that coalition includes progressives, unions, gays, pro-choice women, and environmentalists. These coalition members were not served, but instead were ignored and derided by the White House.

The health care bill became mandates without cost controls. The Financial Regulation bill did nothing to stop too big to fail. Even Geithner and Bernanke admitted that HAMP only saved banks - those who participated in the program still went bankrupt, just after making more payments. This is the truth. This is what Democrats fought for - bankers, insurers, pharma, big oil, and military contractors.

The left has not abandoned Democrats. They abandoned us. Supporting them now only encourages them.
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11:54 AM on 09/08/2010
Well said!  Thank you.
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09:42 AM on 09/08/2010
"Take a look in the rear view mirror and note how the Republicans have taken this [rigid party unity] seriously (it's a shame they took the rest of Reaganism seriously too, or we wouldn't be in the mess we are now!)"

And yet you recommend this as the preferred course of action?

Rather than bemoaning the "undermining" of "our own administration", perhaps you need to flip that coin to see how our own administration has undermined our unity. Certainly, no political leader can be all things to all people, but when disappointments mount from mole hills to mountains, there's been an awful lot of broken faith.
08:58 AM on 09/08/2010
Right wing or blue dog democrats have every reason to be proud of this pandering president but please do not expect progressive people to accept policies that are completely opposed to everything we believe in. Party loyality may be considered a positive thing for some but there are people who actually care more about the issues.
10:42 AM on 09/08/2010
These Democrats weren't loyal to the party platform, only to their own interests. Let them move on to their long-anticipated lobbying jobs.
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08:54 AM on 09/08/2010
Of course you're forgetting that the Democrats tend to be thinkers, not just followers. Republicans are hierarchical and authoritarian. They take orders and don't question their leaders. Democrats question authority. Everyone should question authority. Its your patriotic duty and is guaranteed by the first amendment.
09:20 AM on 09/08/2010
Very good point .. and ..it leads to the fact that, by thier very nature..democrats have to work much harder to bring unity .. freedom is NOT a free gift..it requires hard work, vigilance and persistance..
10:43 AM on 09/08/2010
Unity would be more likely to be achieved if Democratic candidates followed the platform instead of the wishes of the highest bidder.
04:11 PM on 09/08/2010
Millions of Tea Party protesters did their patriotic duty of questioning this Administration regarding its uncontrollable spending, its massive expansion of government, and its passage of unconstitutional healthcare laws, and they were viciously attacked by progressives and condemned as evil, hate-mongering, violent racists.
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08:47 AM on 09/08/2010
A re-post;

““Saying it again; and again.

As in many of the articles here on this site and others I've read, I am so sick and tired of reading about all these political prognosticators saying how the Dems are going to get pummeled this November. I have to ask, "HOW?" How in the he// is this going to happen with people like Brewer, Miller in Alaska, Bachmann in Minnesota, Angle in Nevada, Vitter in Louisiana, Kyle, Boehner, MacConnell, and on, and on, and on.

These people are all whack jobs and offer nothing. Are the people of this country so unaware that they see not the danger? Just the idea of Boehner and Cantor, Issa and King, in the House running around in control, makes my blood run cold.

I don't know what, or who it will take, but someone in the Democratic Party needs to get on their horse and ride, pretty GD soon, or we'll all be speaking in tongues, and doing the Fundamentalist Frug, come next year.

Just remember the phrase that Sinclair Lewis coined;
"When fascism comes to America, it will be wrapped in the flag and carrying a cross."

It is upon us now, if we allow it to happen. If ever the
Democratic Party electorate should be inspired, it should be now.

We have the time. We have the voting power. We just need to get it done.â€

Make this thought viral. Help turn it into action.â€
09:30 AM on 09/08/2010
Agreed..the overall bombardment from all quarters is 'the dems will get pummelled in mid term elections' .. the dice are loaded and the public are dupes .. the BIG problem is that both parties are corrupted by and beholden to the same financial/hidden power influences... this is what puts the majority of people off because they are sick of it and want change ..but just get more of the same old tricks regardless ... its a hard sell.. and impatient people tend to self defeat by collectively punishing incumbents..
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05:52 PM on 09/08/2010
Well that fleeting moment of pain, inflicted with that vote for the Rethugs, will bring about an extended bout of pain not quite worth the retribution. I no less disappointed with the Democratic leadership as anyone, but there is not a thing about the soul (as black as it is), of the Rethuglikan Party, that I could ever see myself associating with.
I'm sorry. I guess I'm just old fashioned.I'm gonna dance with the one that brung me. She may not be a beauty, and maybe she doesn't do everything the right way all the time, but she's got a good heart. Or as compared to the Rethuglikans,she HAS a heart.
10:45 AM on 09/08/2010
Lincoln is down 38 points in Arkansas. She took $18,000 from the Koch brothers. She is anti-environment, anti-worker, anti-Social Security, and was the one to stop the public option.

Her primary challenger polled better against the Republicans than she did. But the Democratic Party spent $11 million to make sure she'd be on the ticket.

I'm not giving anymore money to a party that does something like that. I'll support individual candidates, but I won't give to an organization that supports Blanche Lincoln over a progressive.
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08:37 AM on 09/08/2010
Obama kowtows to Wall Street and the Democratic base abandons him. Big surprise there. Anyone with common sense would have assumed that rolling over and showing your belly to the Wall Street kleptocracy would immediately alienate and demotivate the Democratic base, but I guess that was too much for Obama and Rahm to comprehend.

Just win your elections without us for crist's sake. That's what you all were planning to do all along right? Awww, but you need us now to win? Haha, good luck with that. We don't vote for right wingers whether they have a D or an R next to their name, and expecting us to do so out of blind loyalty is the height of foolishness.
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03:33 AM on 09/08/2010
The complaint of liberals isn't that they are surprised that Obama is a politician and he is somehow trying to split the middle on controversial issues. The complaint is that Obama and the Democrats have completly capitulated on every substantive issue in order to get any bill passed that they could call a political success, no matter how flawed.

Unless and until Obama and the Democrats get their priorities straight and start fighting for the people and against the powerful interests in this country, they are not going to inspire people to vote for them.
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03:01 AM on 09/08/2010
I think it is in the democrat's nature. They are more apt to accept and promote diversity and be more inclusive. But this coming election is too important to lose. They should rally around their leader as one force and one voice. There is too much at stake.
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08:46 AM on 09/08/2010
No--you have it wrong, and that is why the party is crashing and burning right now.

The Democratic base does not support politicians who swill in corporate money. finito. And yet somehow Democrats have convinced themselves that they can swill in corporate money and push corporate policies for governing without consequences.

Right about now those same Dems are getting their rude awakening. Let them have it.
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10:03 AM on 09/08/2010
Nose - spite - face.

It troubles me that I agree with you, 120%.

But it also terrifies me that we may wake up with John Boehner as Speaker of the House. To paraphrase Matthew 7:5, have we become so busy removing the "speck" from our own eye that we cannot see to remove the "beam" from the Republican's eye? Some may argue (and I will frequently be among them) that there is no difference, and yet I believe at a fundamental level there is a tremendous difference between the GOP and Democratic Party and I fear for this country if the Republicans (these particular Republicans) return to power.
10:47 AM on 09/08/2010
If the Democrats in power paid any attention to the party platform, they wouldn't be in this situation.

Looks as if a lot of them will be acknowledging that they're lobbyists working for bankers, insurers, pharma, big oil, big agriculture, and military contractors come January.
02:21 AM on 09/08/2010
After 40 years of watching corporatist policies imperil the middle class, engorge the plutocracy, and gut the Bill of Rights it is hard to be patient when the best and last opportunity of my lifetime to turn things around is squandered for a handful of magic beans called "bipartisanship." We fought to elect a mandate but in every fight the White House starts out on the 35 yard line, gets pushed back the the 20 and declares victory, while the Party of No screams that Obama is cheating and the White House press secretary complains we are not cheering loud enough. FDR was a true aristocrat who changed the lives of millions of working class people. Obama came from a broken home of modest means but seems to be trying too hard to sit at the Cool Kids table in the lunchroom at Davos. Yes, Mr. Clothier, our unholy choice at election time is between A) sociopathic thugs who promise to drive the bus off a cliff if they don't get everything they want; and B) an educated, intelligent, articulate and compassionate man who will negotiate with the thugs so we can keep half of our lunch money now, but less in the future. If we can stay rational, we will pick B. That is why Rahm said "Don't worry about the left." i.e. "They are weak." But it is hard to stay rational when dreams face the choice of a quick death or slow drowning.
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09:05 AM on 09/08/2010
Well Said. Exactly my thinking. What's the point of choosing Democrats for a slow, lingering death, instead of the Republican's fast one? Let the Republicans take control and completely decimate the country in their name. After that we can storm the Bastille and force change we can believe in... since Wall Street kleptopcratic sock puppets like Obama won't let us have it.
09:46 AM on 09/08/2010
things are fomidably more complicated than in FDR's days .. particularly our military structure which has effectively become a separate self serving megalithic entity that swallows up almost half our tax $ .. the corporatist structure is mean, smart, VERY tough and devoid of morals .. Americans have come to accept that 'everybody lies' as a matter on normality .. the odds are firmly stacked against us .. mainly because the whole operating system is corrupt to the core .. the cure is to get ALL political funding away from private/corporate interests .Obama is probabaly the best chance we have got ..but he's beholden to the same interests as the rest .and therefore has to comprimise well beyond what is acceptable to 'we the people' ...that is the reality ...
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01:20 AM on 09/08/2010
"WELL....here I go again...." as long as We-the-People are not getting that there's NOT THAT MUCH DIF between the Dem's & the GOP-- they're ALL CORRUPT & on-the take for FAR more $$$ yearly from special interests than We-the-People pay them--including the perks--this will continue to deteriorate 'cept for the BIG Money minority while the America middle-class disappears. Gee- stats show they all take so much--imagine if each of the 535 members of Congress alone kicked over 100K of their salary from US--they don't really need it --that would make a nice chunk to put back in our treasury, huh? People need to realize--neither party represents the interests of the PEOPLE any more. JMHO Peace & Love..Zeeva
12:40 AM on 09/08/2010
I agree! Democrats need to learn how to govern and even how to collaborate on sites like this: constructive suggestions sure, but too often what we have seen is just carping and destructive bashing, even by the featured bloggers, which just adds to the general tearing down of this administration. Anyone who gloats about that will suffer (along with the rest of us) soon enough if the Republicans gain more power in the coming election than they already have.