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Peter H. Gleick

Peter H. Gleick

Posted: February 17, 2011 01:17 AM

Our legislators have a tough job. They have to balance competing interests of their constituents. They have to work to ensure the health and well being of their region in the face of conflicting challenges. They have to weigh in on complex topics about which they know little, or nothing.

And sometimes facts get in the way. Apparently, when that happens in Montana, the easiest thing to do is to simply try to pass legislation that overturns the laws of science and nature.

That's what Representative Joe Read, Republican from Montana's 15th district, did this week. Apparently, concerned over the growing evidence that human-induced climate change might threaten the economic well-being of the State of Montana, Representative Read submitted Montana House Bill 549 entitled "An Act Stating Montana's Position on Global Warming."

This bill does three very simple things. If passed and signed into law, Montana's legislature repeals the laws of nature and the realities of science by simply declaring that (1) carbon dioxide does not cause global warming; (2) oh, well, maybe there is global warming but it is entirely natural; and (3) anyway, it's going to be good for the welfare and "business climate" of Montana -- all findings that are self-contradictory, false, or simply out of the control of the Montana legislature, no matter what reality they might prefer.

I guess the scientific debate about climate change was too confusing and tiring and Read decided the bad news about climate change could just be turned into good news by declaring it to be so. This isn't the first time a state legislature has tried to turn science fiction into science fact by legislative decree. In 1897 the Indiana legislature tried to pass a bill on how to "square a circle" -- a mathematical concept that had already been proven to be impossible. In 2006, Kansas outlawed the practice of evolution (OK, not really, that was a very funny Onion article, but I'm not making up the Montana story).

This isn't the place for all the details about how the scientific community has long documented global warming, how human activities are clearly and certainly implicated, and the growing evidence that Montana, like most of the rest of the world, is going to suffer adverse consequences except to note the following: According to the scientists at Montana's Department of Environmental Quality and the Montana Climate Action Project, the state is expected to experience increased bark beetle pest outbreaks to ravage their timber, massive increases in the risks of wildfires, the complete disappearance of glaciers from Montana's famous Glacier National Park, a northward shift in mosquitoes carrying Western equine encephalitis, declining hydropower production, and more.

I guess if the legislature wants to make facts disappear through legislation or to define these things as good for the "welfare and business climate" of the state, they can try. They can also declare up to be down, gravity to be void, and left to be right, but that doesn't make it so.

Here is the main text of the proposed Montana bill:
A bill for an Act entitled: "An Act Stating Montana's Position on Global Warming"

Section 1. Public policy concerning global warming.
(1) The legislature finds that to ensure economic development in Montana and the appropriate management of Montana's natural resources it is necessary to adopt a public policy regarding global warming.
(2) The legislature finds:
(a) global warming is beneficial to the welfare and business climate of Montana;
(b) reasonable amounts of carbon dioxide released into the atmosphere have no verifiable impacts on the environment; and
(c) global warming is a natural occurrence and human activity has not accelerated it.


 
 
 

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Our legislators have a tough job. They have to balance competing interests of their constituents. They have to work to ensure the health and well being of their region in the face of conflicting chall...
Our legislators have a tough job. They have to balance competing interests of their constituents. They have to work to ensure the health and well being of their region in the face of conflicting chall...
 
 
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12:41 PM on 03/25/2011
Big business, billionaires and the oil and coal industries.........

Our political system is being run for the top 2%.
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silverwolf13
I know that I do not know.
07:12 PM on 02/24/2011
(d) We want to extract coal and oil from The National Park Formerly Named Glacier.
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StephenBP
What's he building in there?
06:33 AM on 02/21/2011
"reasonable amounts of carbon dioxide released into the atmosphere have no verifiable impacts on the environment;"

Is this sentence a definition of what a "reasonable" amount of carbon dioxide is?

Or evidence of a poor grasp of the basics of science and language?

Yippe I ay
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realpolitic
Proud member of the reality-based community!
07:53 PM on 02/20/2011
Montana believes if they close their eyes and stomp their feet climate change will go away. Highly unlikely!
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ILoveFiction
That's unbelievable!
11:07 PM on 02/20/2011
Perhaps if they click their heels together.

It worked on the Wizard of Oz.

And that is a fine story.
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realpolitic
Proud member of the reality-based community!
01:02 AM on 02/21/2011
True.
03:14 AM on 02/21/2011
The ice age scare of the 1970s went away. Did they have to stomp their feet or just whistle in the wind?
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StephenBP
What's he building in there?
06:40 AM on 02/21/2011
Scare junky- one who scares too easily. One who uses fear as a defense of flawed arguments, either to scare others and control them, or to claim that others are scaring them. Also one who falsely accuses others of using scare tactics. See also teabagger.
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chrisd3
Excelsior!
09:14 AM on 02/21/2011
"Did they have to stomp their feet or just whistle in the wind?"

No, they had to do something about it what was causing the cooling, and they did. Unlike now.

And, for the record, there was no "scare". But, of course, you already know this.
01:12 PM on 02/20/2011
This is a good lecture for anyone that still thinks global warming is real, and/or caused by humans.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FOLkze-9GcI
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ClimateHawk
Think before posting.
02:44 PM on 02/20/2011
His accent makes him sound so intelligent.

Note around 7:00 he claims solar physicists say there is a good change we will be entering a little ice age in the next 20 or 30 years.

Do you have any links to research that states this? Or is just "rumor mill" stuff?

Also, he's got it all backwards. Start with the fact that we are using 85 million barrels of oil a day, 19 million tons of coal, and 300 billion cubic feet of natural gas. Then we need to look and see if that could affect the climate.

The physics is rock solid, and it says yes.

Go to www.uchicago.edu and search for "PhysTodayRT2011"
02:54 PM on 02/20/2011
"Start with the fact that we are using 85 million barrels of oil a day, 19 million tons of coal, and 300 billion cubic feet of natural gas."

...And then make up some pseudoscience as a pretext for controlling those resources?
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ClimateHawk
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02:56 PM on 02/20/2011
If you are curious about who this geologist Bob Carter is: http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php?title=Robert_Carter
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jimboy71
Hen Diapheron Heautoi
10:01 PM on 03/26/2011
His climate papers are so thin that I can debunk them.
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Eileenla
Author, "Sacred Economics"
08:37 AM on 02/20/2011
Money before life...money before life....money before life...

Nope. Just saying it repeatedly doesnt make it true.
10:29 PM on 02/17/2011
Actually there are two states including Montana in the Union with the amount of constitutional protection for the environment. I resent the arrogant people on here implying that most people in MT don't know about environmental issues. We have one of the most pristine environments in the country with an actual Constitutional provision protecting it. Since 1972
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StephenBP
What's he building in there?
08:03 PM on 02/17/2011
"reasonable amounts of carbon dioxide released into the atmosphere have no verifiable impacts on the environment;"

Uh, is 29,000,000,000 TONS per year a reasonable amount? That is the quantity of carbon dioxide that burning fuels puts into the ir every year, and mother nature is not soaking it all up... so it is accumulating.

My back of the envelope calculation suggests that would make a block of carbon dioxide dry ice a mile and a half high, wide, and long.

That is what we hu-mans are putting in the air every year.

And that couldn't possible effect the climate.... could it?
ThatsTheTheWayItIs
religion, ideology, partisanship are delusional
04:27 PM on 02/17/2011
Red States should just all secede.
02:36 PM on 02/17/2011
Wow, serious case of denial but climate change is here and no matter how much he/they want(s) to hide his/their head in the sand it will affect them... regardless.
02:19 PM on 02/17/2011
This would be great parody if it weren't such tragic reality.
i the ys
eternity takes no time at all
02:17 PM on 02/17/2011
Why is it that all these whack jobs are in the Republican party? Thought I had the ability to figure things out but.................I guess there is the need to dumb down to understand the R's.
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yogfthagen
01:06 PM on 02/17/2011
Tennessee passed a law that pi was equal to three.
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Peter H. Gleick
Hydroclimatologist, President, Pacific Institute
02:43 PM on 02/17/2011
actually, it was Indiana, and they didn't quite pass it (and the law was to "square the circle", which effectively would have tried to change the value of pi), but yes, same funny idea.
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01:01 PM on 02/17/2011
This is proposed to make sure Montana coal is available for all...........
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wallyone
01:01 PM on 02/17/2011
I just hope these people live long enough to realize that they did not act while there was still time to mitigate the damage from global warming. There are at least 3 positive feedback loops that make reversing the process impossible. I wish there were criminal penalties for their willful, stupid negligence. Public officials are supposed to be leading on issues like this one.