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Peter Jan Honigsberg

Peter Jan Honigsberg

Posted: March 14, 2011 01:57 PM

Without Human Rights We are Just Another Country


This past week President Obama affirmed what many people expected. Although the president had proclaimed soon after he was elected that he would shut Guantanamo Bay Detention Center within one year, he has now confirmed that the prison will remain open for the foreseeable future. Consequently, a significant number of the 172 detainees currently detained at Guantanamo will be held without charges indefinitely, perhaps for their entire lives.

Our Witness to Guantanamo project (W2G) interviewed former General Counsel of the United States Navy Alberto Mora in December 2010. He reflected on the damage we had done to due process and the rule of law post 9/11 in Guantanamo and observed that, "Without human rights we are just another country."

A government that has held prisoners for over 9 years without charges, and now acknowledges that it will continue to hold a significant number of them indefinitely without charges or prosecutions, cannot pretend that it is committed to human rights. Given the ongoing violations of the rule of law in Guantanamo, we cannot help but ask: Are we becoming just another country?

W2G has filmed 53 in-depth interviews. Thirty one of the interviews have been with former detainees and 22 with other voices, such as prison guards, chaplains, med-techs, JAG lawyers, habeas lawyers, prosecutors (including a chief prosecutor), translators, an FBI profiler, military officials, the father of a Kuwaiti detainee and, of course, Alberto Mora.

Khalid Al-Odah, a Kuwaiti citizen and the father of detainee Fawzi Al-Odah, interviewed with the W2G project in January 2011. Fawzi has been held in Guantanamo Bay since spring 2002 without charges. Years ago, Khalid had lived and trained in Texas, and found everyone he met gracious and kind. He had admired our constitution and he believed in the United States and its values. When he had first heard that his son was being held by the Americans, he expected that Americans would treat his son humanely and pursuant to the rule of law.

He organized the families of the 12 Kuwaiti men who had been captured and taken to Guantanamo, with the goal of bringing them home. Today, 9 years later and largely through his efforts and those of the Kuwaiti government, 10 of the 12 men are back home with their families in Kuwait. Khalid's son, Fawzi, is not one of them.

There does not seem to be any logical reason why Khalid's son is still imprisoned. Fawzi's story is no different from many of the over 600 men who have been released from Guantanamo. We asked Khalid whether he believes that his activism may have caused the U.S. to hold his son as a warning to those who speak out against our policies. He replied that many people have suggested this to him over the years, but he cannot accept that the U.S. would act in this revengeful way. He would like to continue to believe that the United States adheres to the rule of law.

During his interview with W2G, we asked Khalid about the emotional effects on his family. He told us this: Sometimes he awakes in the middle of the night and finds that his wife is not in bed with him. He now knows where she goes. She has gone to their son's room to sleep in his bed.

To Khalid Al-Odah, and to all the other parents, wives and children of the men in Guantanamo, and to the citizens of the world, America can no longer pretend that she is the standard bearer of human rights and the rule of law. As long as we hold people for years, and possibly even decades, without charges and prosecutions we are becoming what Alberto Mora said we should never become -- just another country.

Peter Jan Honigsberg is professor of law at the University of San Francisco; author of Our Nation Unhinged (Univ. of California Press); and Director of the Witness to Guantanamo project (witnesstoguantanamo.com).

 
This past week President Obama affirmed what many people expected. Although the president had proclaimed soon after he was elected that he would shut Guantanamo Bay Detention Center within one year, h...
This past week President Obama affirmed what many people expected. Although the president had proclaimed soon after he was elected that he would shut Guantanamo Bay Detention Center within one year, h...
 
 
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02:32 PM on 03/15/2011
NATO countries including Britain and Canada, originally turned Afghan war prisoners over to the US because the US had such a large operation and there was no concern about how it would treat them.

Unlike the US, these countries are parties to the International Criminal Court which investigates war crimes. Turning prisoners over to a government with reason to believe they will be tortured is a war crime. When the US said the Geneva Conventions did not apply and when stories like Abu Ghraib emerged, these countries worried about charges of complicity in torture. They began turning prisoners over to Afghanistan, which also has a reputation for torture. They thought they could control the situation, but that blew up in their faces too.

In Britain, Canada and Australia, victims of US abuse have sued their own governments because they played some secondary role, but US officials are NEVER held accountable.

These issues don't get much notice in the US, but they cause uproar elsewhere. The Afghan detainee issue, resulted in the Canadian government being found in contempt of Parliament and nearly brought it down. The Supreme Court declared Canada complicit in the abuse of the 15 year old Canadian, Omar Khadr, at Gtmo. Maher Arar sued Canada for millions.

US presidential pronouncements against torture, have gone a long way to repair the US reputation but that may not last if it reverts to previous practices.

http://prism-magazine.com/2010/04/afghan-detainee-torture-whitake/
ThinkCreeps
Seriously, it's time.
01:12 PM on 03/15/2011
With human rights, we are just another country.
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08:42 AM on 03/15/2011
Yes, the US is just another country among countries of which many take human rights and rule of law far more seriously than the US does. Granted, it has an exceptionally powerful military and an intelligence budget the size of GDPs of some smaller nations, but those things seem to be doing honestly more harm to human rights than good. Even if part of the US population is naive and ignorant enough to buy the propaganda, the rest of the world is generally well informed on US hypocrisy.
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padrushka
question authority
04:15 AM on 03/15/2011
If human rights fall in the woods and no one is around to hear, does anyone care?
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CarlyHope
11:21 PM on 03/14/2011
Thougt provoking and well written
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HelloFunnyWorld
In Times Of Sorry Leadership.... Cry or Manage Up?
08:36 PM on 03/14/2011
What would work, Mr.Honigsberg, what would work.... When neither Hilary Clinton nor Barack Obama, a Tony Blair or a Bill Clinton, none of that group, think like you do.... Good people whom this ought to trouble immensely.... But who are rather unconcerned about how Bradley Manning is being treated as well.
We dont remember Jonathan Pollard being stripped and treated like this but there you go....
Perhaps Everyone is to be taught a lesson.... Not just this Kuwaiti gentleman you mention? Which is really strange.... And begs the question: who's really running this whole thing?
04:22 PM on 03/14/2011
Arrogant title. As if the US is some special nation in the first place.

Listen, the US is a nation just like hundreds of other nations. Nothing so special about it.
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Danish5666
What makes life worthwhile isn't measured by GDP
07:24 PM on 03/14/2011
Right on the money, there are other countries that take human rights abuses seriously, so I guess you can't put US in with those countries.
04:07 PM on 03/14/2011
The U.S. is not the only country with human rights.
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Harbinger08
You have the right to remain silent
03:53 PM on 03/14/2011
Well said.
03:52 PM on 03/14/2011
Just another of Cheney's crimes that has done so much to make us "safe".
JNarragansett
Check your premises
07:28 PM on 03/14/2011
Perpetuating the behavior is no more forgivable than instigating it.
03:26 PM on 03/14/2011
Very sad. Khalid Al-Odah is an honourable man. I wonder why so many men of high moral character work outside of government and so many of low moral character work inside.

I was one who was pleased with Mr. Obama's victory in November of 2008. I thought, here's a man of high moral character who will lead the United States out of its' darkest hour. I was wrong. The same warped sense of justice that plagued the Bush years has settled like a blanket over Mr. Obama and his government.
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TexasDem0
USMC Vietnam combat vet
03:07 PM on 03/14/2011
"Without human rights we are just another country."
Not just another nation, but a nation that refuses to investigate and prosecute war crimes because those who committed them are above the law.
06:36 PM on 03/14/2011
F2s all around!