Peter Scheer

Peter Scheer

Posted: November 4, 2009 03:12 AM

Jerry Brown Aide Showed Bad Judgment, But Didn't Break Law in Secretly Taping Reporter

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Attorney General Jerry Brown's spokesman Scott Gerber was unceremoniously "disappeared" from Brown's incipient gubernatorial campaign this week because of a lapse in judgment that, quite frankly, has been grossly overblown. Gerber's mistake: To surreptitiously record a phone conversation with a reporter,  which was later discovered because Gerber, in a plea for changes to the story,  presented an editor with verbatim quotes too extensive and accurate to be the result of efficient note-taking alone.

Gerber should have asked the reporter, Carla Marinucci  of the San Francisco Chronicle, to consent to the taping of the interview--which involved, at Gerber's end of the conversation, three other Brown aides who were also participating in the phone call. The undisclosed taping of a phone conversation with a journalist is viewed as sleazy and a breach of journalistic protocol.  But it is not necessarily illegal, contrary to the assumptions of many journalists.



California law prohibits the recording--without consent of all parties--of a "confidential communication." (CA Penal Code Sec. 632(a)). Journalists have been taught by lawyers over many years that they should avoid all non-consensual taping of interviews. But lawyers are overly cautious by nature. To anyone who has ever been interviewed by a journalist, it is obvious--in retrospect, perhaps painfully so--that, absent an agreement that the conversation is "off the record," the comments of the interview subject are anything but confidential.

Talking to a reporter on the phone (or in person) is about as open and nonconfidential  an exchange as sitting for a live television interview or typing into a blog on a public, unrestricted website. The whole point of a conversation with a print journalist is to provide her with information to be communicated to her paper's entire readership. A genuinely confidential communication with a reporter is the rare exception, not the rule.

The sleaze factor that is associated with surreptitious taping derives, I suspect, from the historic revelations about Richard Nixon's taping of conversations, with both friend and foe, in the Oval Office. Before Nixon gave the practice a bad name, many journalists taped interviews (with or without consent) in order to create the most accurate record possible, not to engage in a game of "gotcha" with sources. Watergate changed the rules of appropriate journalistic inquiry.

The prevailing presumption today is that interviews are not recorded unless all parties to the conversation explicitly agree otherwise. Although this presumption may be a bit quaint in the YouTube era--in which celebrities are always at risk, in public settings, of having a candid moment converted into an embarrassing video that goes viral online--it is, in fact,  a presumption strictly observed by all serious journalists.

As it should be.  Ethically speaking, there is no adequate reason to tape secretly. But it's important to bear in mind that undisclosed taping by a journalist--or by the person being interviewed by a journalist--is rarely, if ever,  illegal.

Peter Scheer, a lawyer and journalist, is executive director of the First Amendment Coalition, www.firstamendmentcoalition.org

 
 
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- unitron I'm a Fan of unitron 19 fans permalink

"...presen­ted an editor with verbatim quotes too extensive and accurate to be the result of efficient note-taking alone."

Does this mean that unless the reporter taped the conversation instead of just taking notes we shouldn't expect her to be able to accurately quote the interviewees?

Did Gerber tape the actual phone call, or just his own side of it, i.e, what a microphone not connected in any way to the telephone would pick up out of the air just by being in the room at the time?

Was he providing amazingly accurate quotes of what he himself said previously, or of what the reporter had said?

How can his amazing accuracy be proof unless the reporter taped the conversation and had said tape available for comparison later when Gerber contacted the editor?

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:37 AM on 11/05/2009
- NorthSide I'm a Fan of NorthSide 2 fans permalink

Reporters will paw through your garbage can, climb in through your window, bribe your barber and hack into your e-mail to get a story. Yet when somebody legally turns the tables on them they screech like scalded cats.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:30 PM on 11/04/2009
- tompoe I'm a Fan of tompoe 21 fans permalink

Hmmmm. What's your take, Scheer, on the "little bit pregnant" defense?

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:36 AM on 11/04/2009

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