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Phil Trounstine

Phil Trounstine

Posted May 3, 2009 | 05:46 PM (EST)

Stanford Anti-War Protesters Want Condi Booted for War Crimes


Phil Trounstine and Jerry Roberts, Calbuzz.com

About 150 protest veterans, who led the fight 40 years ago to dislodge Stanford University from the War in Vietnam, on Sunday called on Stanford to sever relations with former Provost Condoleezza Rice, arguing that she committed war crimes while on leave as Secretary of State.

They understand it's a long shot: Stanford relishes having a former Secretary of State on the faculty and is unlikely to conclude, as a Faculty Advisory Board would have to, that while on leave, Rice engaged in false statements, misrepresentation of sources and a pattern of egregious intellectual dishonesty. Unless, of course, Rice is actually prosecuted for overseeing and approving of torture - which would require the Obama administration and/or Congress to hold Bush administration officials responsible for breaking the law.

Whether this happens or not, the anti-war left wants Rice to go. As longtime campus peace activist Rachelle Marshall put it at a panel discussion on Saturday: "Stanford is harboring a war criminal."

The former students, faculty and outside agitators who gathered at Stanford this weekend were celebrating the 40th anniversary of the April 3rd Movement, in which a nine-day take-over of the Applied Electronics Laboratory and ensuing street protests brought an end to secret military research at Stanford.

That movement began in October 1968, when many of those now attending the reunion had nailed a document on the door of the trustees' office demanding that Stanford "halt all military and economic projects and operations concerned with Southeast Asia."

Recalling that moment, the veterans on Sunday delivered a petition from "Stanford Say No to War" that stated: "Our former Provost, current Political Science Professor, and Hoover Institution Senior Fellow, Condoleezza Rice, should be held accountable for any serious violations of the law (including ratified treaties, statutes and/or the U.S. Constitution) through investigation and, if the facts warrant, prosecution by appropriate legal authorities."

A3M leader Marjorie Cohn, now president of the National Lawyers' Guild, said, "By nailing this petition to the door of the president's office, we are telling Stanford that the university should not have war criminals on its faculty. There is prima facie evidence that Rice approved torture and misled the country into the Iraq war. Stanford has an obligation to investigate those charges."

Rice didn't help herself when she was asked, at an earlier meeting with students, whether waterboarding is torture:

"The president instructed us that nothing we would do would be outside of our obligations, legal obligations, under the Convention Against Torture," she replied. "So that's -- and by the way, I didn't authorize anything. I conveyed the authorization of the administration to the agency . . .By definition, if it was authorized by the president, it did not violate our obligations under the Conventions Against Torture."

As widely noted, her statement echoed Richard Nixon's circular, self-referential Watergate logic: "When the president does it, that means that it is not illegal." You can see the whole Rice exchange here.

Note: Phil Trounstine was a member of A3M and attended the 2009 reunion.

Phil Trounstine and Jerry Roberts, Calbuzz.com About 150 protest veterans, who led the fight 40 years ago to dislodge Stanford University from the War in Vietnam, on Sunday called on Stanford to seve...
Phil Trounstine and Jerry Roberts, Calbuzz.com About 150 protest veterans, who led the fight 40 years ago to dislodge Stanford University from the War in Vietnam, on Sunday called on Stanford to seve...
 
 
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lbrillante
I take action knowing Love will win.
03:15 AM on 05/05/2009
How on earth to we get accountability here. I am outraged by pundits suggesting that there will be no accountability and it will just have to be enough that we in the public can draw our conclusions and these people who have not just broken the law but put a big crack down the middle of the rule of law and the foundation of this country?!

To regain integrity there must be accountability. Period.

We are doomed/blessed to repeat our mistakes if we do not truly learn from them. Right now pointing to past mistakes, it is clear than anything short of prosecution could be the undoing of our country. Who will honor the law ever knowing that it was so abused and allowed to stand without repercussions.

Condi is if nothing else guilty of neglect and should suffer the consequences of her role in this terrible tragedy of failed and criminal leadership.
08:50 PM on 05/04/2009
As a father, I taught my daughter to weigh all sides, listen more than you talk, and look for biases and motives when people speak too loudly. I see most of these posts in the latter category, speaking with emotion about things which none of us will really ever know about in our lifetimes. Rather than open, honest, intellectual debate, I see a lot of hate, and it makes me very relieved that my daughter went to USC rather than the bastion of closed-minded ideology that Stanford, a once respected school, has become. Very sad.
02:49 PM on 05/04/2009
You can see the video of the petition getting nailed to the door and the statement by Marjorie Cohn at:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ldnIhbbGpCw
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grf67
02:44 PM on 05/04/2009
As a Stanford graduate, the institution is diminished by her connection to the university.
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hollybork
10:54 AM on 05/04/2009
Maybe she can get a job as the President or Provost at Arizona State. That will show those snobby Stanford liberals.......
10:32 AM on 05/04/2009
She should be brought before the International Court of Justice in the Hague and be made to answer for her war crimes. Obviously war crimes do not interest the justice department in the USA therefore it is the duty of the International Court to try her.
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Mij13
They only call it class war when we fight back.
02:36 AM on 05/04/2009
I just hope she gets hounded by questions about how she authorized torture, (which is a war crime), and is now saying nobody was tortured. How can all those people be wrong or lying, Condi?
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HST
Conservatism = selfishness
02:31 AM on 05/04/2009
Bravo for Stanford. Cal Berkeley needs to do something about getting rid of Yoo.

California can do better.
01:42 AM on 05/04/2009
Since Condi and her bosses put all of their trust in what the Bush appointed DOJ lawyers manufactured to justify their illegal torture tactics, then she should be on the faculty of Regent University School of Law (founded by Pat Robertson) , and not at Stanford University ................

Especially since most of the Bush appointed DOJ lawyers attended Regent University.
12:24 AM on 05/04/2009
Director of Central Intelligence in the spring of 2003 sought a reaffirmation of the legality of the interrogation methods. Cheney, Rice, then-Attorney General John Ashcroft and White House counsel Alberto Gonzales were among those at a meeting where it was decided that the policies would continue.

Condi knew what she was doing. She was not just relaying messages of george w.

I kinda feel sorry for her because she was used. But Condi has blood on her hands.
11:55 PM on 05/03/2009
Any one and every one who is, was, or has associated with the world's biggest l.o.s.e.r, a.k.a. George W. Bu.sh, is or will soon become a l.o.s.e.r - just like B ush himself.

Condi Rice is no exception.
11:50 PM on 05/03/2009
She should leave Stanford and go to Denver University (where she got her Bach, Masters, and Doc degrees) and fade into obscurity.
11:46 PM on 05/03/2009
She is a disgrace and Stanford should consider disassociating themselves with her. Remember the mushroom cloud she warned us about? I think she may have been dishonest. She didn't seem to want to disagree with W at all--just went along.
10:58 PM on 05/03/2009
If this is the kind of person that Stanford sends to Washington and then brings back, Academia is in dire straits. Please send no more to Washington. There are many dysfunctional people in Academia, most in the Humanities Departments.
10:39 PM on 05/03/2009
Although she was still in school during Watergate, Condi is surely an honorary member of the Nixon Admin.