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Philip Radford

Philip Radford

Posted: February 11, 2011 11:01 AM

Tropical rainforests are called the lungs of the earth, because they suck in pollution and breath out clean, healthy air. There is a darker side to this story, though -- without protection, these same forests could actually speed up global warming.

A new paper from a team of British and Brazilian researchers has some worrying news about the Amazon rainforest, the biggest single lung on the planet. It describes how last year's drought left some areas as dry as a tinderbox.

The thing is, this happened in 2005 too. Back then the drought was described as a once in a hundred year event, but then it happened again.

The new study shows how these dry spells are really bad news for the trees, and many are dying. They then stop absorbing carbon dioxide and start pumping out gases as they burn or rot away. And so we get into a kind of vicious circle.

Climate science tells us that we'll be seeing more droughts like this, more often. And if the rainforest starts breathing out more than it's absorbing, then the forests begin to contribute to the problem they help solve today.

So far, so grim, but there are reasons for hope. Deforestation in the Amazon is falling, due in part to new agreements from the big players in the leather world (like Nike and Timberland) not to buy from ranchers who are cutting down the forest to graze cows. Larger chunks of rainforest are much better at withstanding drought, and so this drop in deforestation matters.

Every nation on earth also has a stake in this. By cutting carbon pollution down instead of trees, we can help to slowly stabilize the world's climate and preserve the rainforests that are left.

Right now the world's ancient rainforests are on our side in the fight against climate change. They can mop up a huge amount of our pollution, but there is a limit. It's time for us to realize that this deal cuts two ways.

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09:23 PM on 02/13/2011
Plant hemp.
05:44 PM on 02/13/2011
breathe.. then go climb that tree and say thank you!
12:03 AM on 02/13/2011
You are making mistake Mr. Philip Radford.
Rainforest can't be lung of the earth.
Ana4
neutrino alert, just passing through
08:48 PM on 02/13/2011
They emit oxygen--that's what he means.
09:42 PM on 02/13/2011
Dear Ana4, in mature forest like rainforest, photosynthesis produce new oxygen, while old trees, branches, leaves when they decay take oxygen back.
I hope you and author must understand this simple equation.
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09:27 PM on 02/12/2011
Movie trailer. You have to see this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=28MH3jZlucc&feature=related

Note to Newt: thank you.
Ana4
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08:59 PM on 02/13/2011
Interesting comments below the clip. Thanks for the link.
07:40 PM on 02/12/2011
"A team of UC San Diego -led atmospheric chemistry researchers moved closer to what is considered the holy grail of climat change science when it mad the first ever direct detection of biological particles within ice clouds."
http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2009/05/090517143334.htm
07:01 PM on 02/12/2011
Cutting edge stuff regarding tree and cloud interaction.
http://www.wired.com/science/planetearth/news/2008/02/bacteria_clouds
07:19 PM on 02/12/2011
Sorry wrong link.http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2008/02/080228174801.htm
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04:16 PM on 02/12/2011
Are two major droughts in the Amazon alarming? I think so.

Is there a clear statistical trend of more extreme weather? No, I don't think so. And I hope there never is. But I think there will be unless we change direction and get off of fossil fuels, which we need to do anyway because there is a finite supply of them. The only thing is, we need to get off fossil fuels as soon as possible.

So as unscientific as it may be, I am alarmed by the following list. Because regardless of whether we can attribute these to global warming or not, they are the type of events that are predicted for our future based on our current trajectory. More and more of these extreme events is not the world I want to leave for my children or yours.

To use an analogy, we don't wait until we get to the stop sign to put on the brakes. And we don't test the hypothesis that stop signs are irrelevant by ignoring them.
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04:22 PM on 02/12/2011
You can interpret this list any way you want. I interpret is as a wake up call.

2005: Hurricane Katrina was the costliest natural disaster, killing at least 1,836 people with damages estimated at $81 billion

2007: Frequency Of Atlantic Hurricanes Doubled Over Last Century. Science Daily.

2008: Natural Disasters Up More Than 400 Percent in Two Decades

2009: Georgia floods 'epic': According to the U.S. Geological Survey (USGS), the floods were a "once in 500 years flood,"

2009: Death Toll Rises to 222 in Indian Floods -1.5 million have been displaced - CBS
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04:25 PM on 02/12/2011
2010: Tornado record blown away

2010: Deadly China floods called worst in decade - At least 700 people have been killed and millions displaced. Well over half of China's provinces are endured monsoon-like downpours, flooding and landslides

2010: The worst floods in Pakistan's history affected 14 million people, with floodwater reaching Sindh province, officials say.

2010: Russia's record heat wave may already have taken 15000 lives and cost the economy $15 billion as fires and drought ravage the country. Russia stopped exporting grain.

2010: Calif. rain shatters records, and more is coming - FOX

2010: Mudslides in Brazil. Death toll 1,000

2010: Floods in Germany

2011: Floods in Australia

2011: One of the most powerful cyclones on record slammed into Australia's northeast coast on Thursday

2011: (Reuters) - World food prices hit a record in January and recent catastroph¬ic weather around the globe could put yet more pressure on the cost of food

2010: Drought in China: NYT

2010 Flooding in southern hemisphere

2011 Philippines under water. Death toll 57

2011 Sri Lanka flooded. 40 people killed

2011 floods in January: Malawi, Malaysia, Mozambique, Saudi Arabia, South Africa, Zambia and Zimbabwe.
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06:52 PM on 02/12/2011
ever have the feeling no ones paying attention to you....
Ana4
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09:10 PM on 02/13/2011
Readers may note that this is only a partial list of fires/droughts/floods, though it mentions the worst, perhaps, so far.
02:33 PM on 02/12/2011
Just how much of your corporation's income is dependent on 'alarms', Philip? And what proportion of those that can be verified to date have turned out to be genuine?
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01:01 PM on 02/12/2011
There are many facets of rainforest, including the Amazon, that should give civilization pause regarding unsustainable forest practices. Slash and burn techiques to harvest wood, create grazing lands, produce crops and pig iron for short term economic gain should create a global urgency to to preserve these diverse biological wonders. Who knows what medical wonders, yet to be discovered, will be lost through the extinction of plant and animal species. Already 121 drugs are derived from the rainforest boquet of life. The below links will help expand your knowledge of the life giving rainforest.

http://rainforests.mongabay.com/0502.htm One feature of the Amazon rainforest missing from this discussion are lateritic soils. These heavily weathered, clay acidic soils are poor nutirent holders. The vast majority of nutrients are tied up in the vegetation. When lateritic soils are are exposed to the sun, they bake like concrete, require large fertilizer imputs for crops and last only a couple of years for crop production.

http://www3.ufpa.br/projetomineracao/docs/estrut/arq11-social.pdf The history of pig iron production in the Eastern Brazilian Amazon Rainforest and the resulting destruction of the rainforest for steel

http://www.rain-tree.com/facts.htm


http://www.independent.co.uk/environment/climate-change/revenge-of-the-rainforest-1638524.html

http://books.google.com/books?id=eCplelCvA00C&pg=PA615&lpg=PA615&dq=is+the+amazon+rainforest+a+net+producer+of+co2&source=bl&ots=gHWilz_891&sig=H1APTD5zZk448rXtaTYIBPSWVSM&hl=en&ei=T8RWTfzOBsG2tgfp8_jHDA&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=6&ved=0CC8Q6AEwBTgK#v=onepage&q&f=false
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12:41 PM on 02/12/2011
this situation concerns me , it takes several "bad actors" to create disease , and we have several
acting in tandem , "forgive them , they know not what they do "
Thank you Mr Radford for your years of dedicated service .
11:50 AM on 02/12/2011
@Mr Radford- Actually, the cycles of CO2 uptake and the respiration of organic matter are tightly linked in the Amazon: such rainforests are not CO2 sinks. To get CO2 removal, you need carbon burial, or production of new biomass that removes CO2 from the atmosphere. However, with respect to both of these processes, the Amazon is in steady-state: it quickly rots away new organic matter, in the form of periodically replaced leaves, back to CO2 (instead of burial in soils), and primary rainforest like the Amazon doesn't really grow any 'bigger', so the carbon reservoir represented by wood and leaves remains the same over time and doesn't soak up more carbon.

That said, however, the net change in a CO2 budget associated with burning primary forest and replacing it with farmland or grazing IS significant, for obvious reasons. That is the real reason why we want to be conserving the Amazon, not because it 'soaks up air pollution'.

The places that are true carbon sinks, and thus responsible for the oxygen in the atmosphere, are marine sediments, bogs, and soils where the amount of carbon in is greater than the amount of carbon out, or at least where large amounts of carbon are withheld at any given time from rotting, which concomitantly allows a large atmospheric reservoir of oxygen- the molecule of oxygen that is created per organic molecule created is able to evade being destroyed again by rotting away that molecule of organic matter back to CO2.
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01:00 PM on 02/12/2011
True carbon sinks? How about the oceans which you left out. The world's oceans soak up 11 billion tons of CO2 each year. In 2009 emissions from fossil fuel use was 8.4 tons. Thank goodness for the oceans, eh? Oh, but wait a minute, even the oceans are reaching their limits as carbon sinks:

Sea absorbing less CO2, scientists discover
http://www.guardian.co.uk/environment/2009/jan/12/sea-co2-climate-japan-environment

As for the Amazon, it is regarded as a 'carbon sink' :

The Amazon, which acts as a 'carbon sink' - absorbing billions of tonnes of CO2 from the atmosphere - was hit by a "once a in century" drought in 2005. Only five years later, the 2010 drought may have been even more devastating, according to rainfall analysis by researchers from the UK and Brazil. This is leading to concerns that the area will release more carbon than it absorbs.
http://uk.ibtimes.com/articles/20110207/scientists-fear-drought-could-reverse-039-carbon-sink-039-effect-amazon.htm
02:18 PM on 02/12/2011
First off, I am not a AGW denier.
Second of all, yes the oceans both release and absorb enormous quantities of CO2, simply through the equilibration of CO2-rich newly upwelled deep water with the atmosphere, and through the equilibration of 'old' surface water in the mixed layer with the atmosphere; and finally, the large amounts of primary productivity convert Co2 to organic matter, a lot of which sinks to the sediment and is not rapidly reoxidized to CO2- thus it is a sink. But in the long term, this seawater-atmosphere system is in steady state, to my understanding, so even though the anthropogenic term is relatively small in comparison to the natural absorption and release, it is not part of that steady-state system and so the anthropogenic term is problematic.

However, in point of fact, the idea of rainforests as carbon sinks was never actually well-established, even in the scientific literature. The original studies failed to take into account all of the relevant fluxes of air into and out of the forest. I have sat in on scientific talks (yes, by professional scientists, at a university) where this was presented; unfortunately, I can't provide a journal reference to that, but this also addresses the topic: http://www.esajournals.org/doi/abs/10.1890/1051-0761(2002)012[0003:ATFAIC]2.0.CO;2
It's simple math, really- old-growth rainforests are not increasing in biomass, and their soils are rapidly recycled, so hence there is no net carbon uptake, no carbon sink.
02:21 PM on 02/12/2011
"In 2009 emissions from fossil fuel use was 8.4 tons"
also, this is incorrect, by more than a few orders of magnitude. 8.4 million tons? 840 million? not sure which but that would be more accurate
ciscoguy
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09:01 AM on 02/12/2011
I can't imagine what would happen if we ever let these people regulate air. Their excuses for unpredictable climate and weather patterns are only limited by their imagination. At least when arguing the usefulness of their spending programs there's a paper trail. You want to let them control the energy supply so they can regulate the ecosystem? If temperatures cool, they're vindicated. If they warm, we're not doing enough.

"The urge to save humanity is almost always only a false-face for the urge to rule it."
~H.L. Mencken
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09:28 AM on 02/12/2011
Oops. You are about 40 years too late.

http://www.epa.gov/air/caa/

It's the EPA's job to help ensure our air is protected.

Go get your own air supply, live in a bubble, and you can put whatever you want into your own air.
ciscoguy
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10:18 AM on 02/12/2011
Yeah, we'll see about that. Thank God for house oversight.
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10:31 AM on 02/12/2011
Damn, but H.L. Mencken had a way with words didn't he?
F&F
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08:59 AM on 02/12/2011
For the very curious ...

"Atmospheric reanalyses have proven to be useful tools for synthesizing diverse and irregularly spaced atmospheric observations into internally consistent gridded data sets."

i.e. you take the historical data you have and interpolate to get a data set that is organized into a nice neat set of buckets that are better suited for feeding into analytical tools.

Input: historical data taken at various time intervals and miscellaneous locations

Output: best estimate of what the data would look like if taken at regular intervals and regular geographical spacing.

A good description of the re-analysis concept can be found here: http://cires.colorado.edu/science/groups/cassano/Projects/grebis/
ciscoguy
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09:13 AM on 02/12/2011
The planet is 4,500,000,000 years old. How many buckets of historical data do you have?
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09:31 AM on 02/12/2011
I can try to answer your question if you help me understand how it relates to re-analysis.
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tinyrainbows
05:53 AM on 02/12/2011
Last week the severe snowstorms were because of moisture trapped due to CO2...this week it is drought. Grasping at straws.
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06:59 AM on 02/12/2011
Pull your head out of the sand and educate yourself rather than making snide comments about phenomena you don't understand. Such weather patterns, along with an increase in the frequency and severity of storms, droughts, and other weather phenomena, have long been predicted by climate scientists. There was even a book published three years ago that detailed the changes predicted by climate scientists:

Lynas, M. 2008. Six Degrees: Our Future on a Hotter Planet. National Geographic, Washington, D.C., 335 pp.

There is also a National Geographic TV program based on the book titled "Six Degrees Could Change The World."

I invite you to look either of them up.
08:10 AM on 02/12/2011
And there have been publications - scientific journals, books, popular magazines, television presentations - that have expressed predictions DECADES ago that there would be more variable and extreme weather.
07:34 AM on 02/12/2011
"moisture 'trapped' due to CO2"?

Where did you read THIS?
ciscoguy
They cling to their abortions & AGW religion.
08:43 AM on 02/12/2011
Al Gore. He actually said the reason it's snowing so much is because global warming has caused there to be more moisture trapped in the atmosphere. This might be plausible if the precipitation was falling as rain, and it wasn't an another otherwise frigid winter.

When you try to explain everything, you explain nothing. Good 'ole Al.
12:19 PM on 02/12/2011
Perhaps not the best wording, but yes, increased heat in the atmosphere equals increased latent heat loss from the oceans - i.e., more evaporation, more intense hydrologic cycle. This is a fact visible throughout the Earth's geologic record- increased temperature equals more intense hydrologic cycle and continental weathering and erosion; and since weathering of many abundant types of rocks soaks up CO2, this is one example of a VERY long term control on atmospheric CO2 and hence temperature. Of course, far too slow to help us now.
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02:09 AM on 02/12/2011
You read a lot about deforestation, so, where's the reforestation? If you need a tree, ok, cut it, but plant two to take its' place. People need resources to live, and make money and stuff, but the slash-and-burn approach isn't so popular especially now that we're a big global 'family' of sorts, with 6.8 billion mouths to feed. I support reforestation. And, I also support external independent studies being done to either support, or defrock, the environmental types, as the situation might call for. Because The Environment is just one more sacred political cause, and a handy tool for hitting people over the head with bureaucratically for the simple crime of trying to make a buck. Sometimes, the Earth does stuff. And, sometimes, it's even violent. And, if you're stupid, and think you're equal to a force of nature, you'll stand there and try and stop it, or change it. But, if you're not stupid, when the pyroclastic flows start heading your way, you'll act to preserve your self-important, ecologically hip, mostly watery little self there. I don't think you should raze the forests, that's bad practice. But, people didn't plant all the vegetation in the Amazon. And, left to her own devices, Nature will RE-plant the Amazon. But, what if Nature decides to burn down all the trees? That'll cause some carbon emissions for sure. Would we be eco-criminals, for putting out the fire? Some say yes. I say at least 40-60 percent of the enviro-politics is pure, unadulterated B.S. and inconclusive data that then gets manipulated for various purposes. And, maybe if we had a 20% reduction in funding for higher education, there'd be an 85% reduction in the number of people with free time to sit around smoking dope and complaining about The Environment, and why The Government should/should not do something. It just gets old, after a while. Like trees? Great. Go plant one. Maybe if someone sees you do that, they might go and do it, too. Imagine what America would look like, if everyone did their thing on National Arbor Day. The whole country would be a giant forest. And then, it would burn down, because no one planned firebreaks.
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HamletsMill
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01:05 PM on 02/12/2011
Arbor Day
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VIW_0ho2tfU
05:14 PM on 02/12/2011
tl;dr