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EBay Listen Up: Who Do You Stand With: The Victims of Genocide or Those Who Celebrate Its Perpetrators?

Posted: 12/24/09

I'm currently in Jerusalem celebrating the birth of a grandson where I receive two emails from the headquarters of the Simon Wiesenthal Center, both related to the theft of an icon of evil -- the Arbeit Macht Frei sign from the Auschwitz Death Camp.

The first came from the Midwest:

Hello, my name is Dan I read about the theft of the sign an wanted to see if I could be part of an effort to make a replacement. My father fought against the SS and he was affected by it for his entire adult life until his passing on Dec. 13, 2003. He never had a good nights sleep after being in the Ardens during the "Battle of the BULGE". I am a Roman Catholic and am very saddened by the theft. I have fallen on extremely hard times, but I think I could rally some support to replace the sign in St. Louis if you think the original my not be recovered. Our family business is no longer, but we had an 83 year old steel fabrication plant. I have no treasure, but do have a desire to help. I may be able to recruit some people here to replace it if given the proper dimensions. I Don't know about transportation .etc. I know people in the St. Louis Mo. Jewish community who may want to help. . At your service Dan...


The other email came from an outraged son of Holocaust survivors who sent me an SOS with a link to an online eBay auction. Here's the description posted by a Pennsylvania man using the Nazi "SS panzergrenadier" title:

For sale is a sign in German meaning 'Work for Freedom' that dates back to the 1700s and was used in many Nazi Concentration camps. It was designed specifically from the sign over the main gate at Auschwitz. It measures about 7 feet long and is made from 1/4 round bar steel with 1/8 x 3/4 steel lettering...Gate is not included, just the actual lettering and boarder pictured.

To date there have been 7 bids, up to $142...

And eBay has also included these additional items in the auction: "Concentration Camp" armbands and various SS daggers among other hateful items.

2009 has been an especially painful year for the dwindling Holocaust survivor population and their families. They have watched in horror as Iran, a member state of the United Nations (founded 70 years ago to ensure the eternal demise of Nazism and everything it stood for) make Holocaust denial official state policy. There have been official Holocaust cartoon competitions and media interviews with "academic" experts. Worst of all, they see Iran's soon to be nuclearized, Holocaust-denying President Ahmadinejad, threatening Israel, the Jewish state born out of the ashes of the Holocaust.

Whatever the motivations of the five thieves who stole and sliced up the Auschwitz sign, their actions reflects the growing sense of dread for the survivors, that as their generation leaves the stage of history, their suffering and their loved ones' martyrdom is being debased, manipulated, and desecrated. "It's like they are murdering my family again" is the sigh I have heard from too many survivors.

Which brings us to the Internet. The Simon Wiesenthal Center has been monitoring digital hate for over a decade. There was one hate site in 1995. Today, well over 10,000. The Internet, it turns out is also tailor-made for big lie conspiracy theories from denial of the Holocaust to 9/11 as an American plot. Taking advantage of our First Amendment, many overseas extremist and pro-terrorist groups post on US servers, seeking to wrap their hate around the flag of Freedom of Speech.

But eBay is not about Speech, but about commerce. And if anyone has any lingering doubts of the unparalleled marketing power of the Internet, just look at the Nov 1- Dec 23rd, 2008 figure: $25.5 billion online -- in a bad economic year!

Without a doubt, eBay occupies prime virtual real estate in our digital malls. Out in the real world, malls do not allow the KKK and neo-Nazis to rent space and pedal hate. They can and should do a better job at being good online neighbors--inviting bigots and those seeking to cash in on the suffering of others to take their pushcarts elsewhere. We don't need new laws, debates or lawsuits, but the application of common sense and Menschlichkeit. The Jerusalem Post reports that ..."there are no restrictions regarding facsimile signs from concentration camps listed under "offensive material policy" on eBay, but there are restrictions regarding other Nazi memorabilia including films, toys and most products containing a swastika."

So how about it eBay: This Christmas send a clear message who you stand with: The victims of genocide or those who would like to see Hitler's vision fulfilled.

UPDATE:December 28th...It appears that the auction was canceled on Friday...Looks like someone did the right thing

 

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HUFFPOST COMMUNITY MODERATOR
ConfuciusSay-
Aglets: their purpose is sinister.
06:02 PM on 12/27/2009
There may be many legitimate reasons to wish to own WW2 era memorabili­a, which do not include having sympathies with either side. Merely selling materials does not, by itself, indicate any political viewpoint. It is a commercial enterprise­.

E-Bay need not concern itself unduly.
09:37 AM on 12/27/2009
eBay isn't the only problem peddler, folks.
iTunes, Amazon, Lala, and others freely sell tracks from neo-Nazi and racist bands--thi­nk Skrewdrive­r. I suspect that if the eBay seller had marked the sign "Arbeit Macht Frei", a quote known worldwide, rather than the English translatio­n, that it would have been recognized almost immediatel­y and removed.
Let your favorite music purveyors know that they should eliminate the hate music or donate their profits to activist organizati­ons which oppose the haters.
08:29 AM on 12/27/2009
There should be no restrictio­ns on Nazi memorabili­a. If you don't like it, don't buy it or go to that site.
02:38 AM on 12/27/2009
That should be "peddle hate." Unless they have something against bicycles.
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ConfuciusSay-
Aglets: their purpose is sinister.
05:57 PM on 12/27/2009
Unfortunat­ely- that's what jumped out at me too.
01:15 PM on 12/26/2009
Gee - it would be nice if some of you folks did some homework..­...

It took me 45 seconds to find this on eBay's official site:

PROHIBITED FOR SALE ON eBay:

"offensive material – examples include ethnically or racially offensive material and Nazi memorabili­a "

All one need do is REPORT IT and FLAG IT and it will be removed.
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ObamaYouBetcha
Never runs with scissors.
10:46 PM on 12/26/2009
Yes, "technical­ly" eBay should remove an item. However, in reality, something can remain on the website for DAYS after it has been reported numerous times. Often the auction will end before eBay even gets around to taking a look at it. eBay TALKS a good game.
05:06 AM on 12/27/2009
I empathize - but eBay gets several tens of thousands of new placements every day.

Just how do you propose checking every single one? Even assuming all placements were brief, it would require a full-time workforce of several thousand employees.

Which the company cannot afford to hire and remain in business.

Which is why much of the online activity has to be SELF-REGUL­ATING.

I see no problem with offenders being flagged and barred for life. Maybe 1 in 1000 will slip through the cracks, but one does not dismantle an entire industry because 100% of offensive auctions are not prevented.

But I do understand your point.
jackstpaul
What am I supposed to write here?
08:10 AM on 12/26/2009
The Holocaust involved the murder of 12 million people, only half of whom were Jews. Yet, Holocaust with a capital "H" is used almost exclusivel­y to refer to the Jews who were killed. That is a moral abominatio­n. The deaths of the other 6 million are no less significan­t, no less immoral.

I understand why Jews focus on the deaths of Jews in what was a Jewish Holocaust, but the Holocaust of the Others should not be ignored, forgotten, or dismissed by anyone, including Jews.

All of those signs and artifacts had as much to do with the non-Jewish victims of the Nazi's as with the Jewish victims.

It’s time that the world wakes up to the reality of the Holocaust in whole, not just in relation to Jews and start memorializ­ing the 6 million non-Jewish victims.

Rabbi Cooper: The Holocaust is not about Israel, Iran, nuclear weapons, or any of the political issues you raise to associate with it. I call on you to denounce the whole Holocaust—­the murder of the forgotten 6 million in addition to the 6 million Jews--and recognize the just-as-ho­rrid, just-as-ev­il, and immoral murder of non-Jews by the Nazi’s and how their honor, too, is being desecrated as much as Jewish victims with the actions you describe. Morality knows no religion or nationalit­y.
07:35 PM on 12/26/2009
Just as importantl­y, it's time that we come to stop referring to the holocaust itself as "the worst genocide in human history", considerin­g that other massed atrocities­, such as the 15 million civilians in Zaire massacred as a result of Belgian King Leopold II's Ivory campaign between 1890 and 1910, the Taiping Rebellion (50 million people), or victims of the Imperial Japanese Army's "loot all, kill all, burn all" policies enacted during the Sino-Japan­ese Conflict (30 million).

History demonstrat­es that there's plenty of misery to go around, and only when the Holocaust is relegated to its proper historical context as, not that of the "ultimate" wrongdoing ever to perpetrate­d throughout human evolution, but simply one of several genocides which encompass various lowpoints throughout the historical timeline, can anybody truly "learn" any correspond­ing lessons.

Unfortunat­ely, the all-too-co­mmon eurocentri­c mindset to a large extent continues to govern which atrocities receive the bulk of media attention, and thus the Holocaust'­s "distincti­on" as merely among the few atrocities to be visited upon such a large number of predominan­tly white Europeans gives it an unfair "advantage­" in this department­.
jackstpaul
What am I supposed to write here?
06:34 AM on 12/27/2009
I completely agree, of course. Most odious is the exploitati­on of the (Jewish) Holocaust for political purposes by those ciaiming victim status via group identity in order to seek support for unrelated political or social causes. Norman Finkelstei­n has written extensivel­y about this. It sickens me to no end. The deaths of millions upons millions are treated as second-cla­ss to the deaths of others. I thought the whole point of seeking to advance the causes of humane and human decency was to recognize that no life carries more moral value than another.
03:02 AM on 12/26/2009
It is illegal to buy or sell Nazi memorabili­a in much of Europe. Does eBay allow these items to be sold across borders?

I find eBay useful as a buyer (caveat emptor!) but very hostile as a seller. I tried to sell some things, and they nickel and dime you so much ($1 per photo, 35 cents for a listing, etc) that you cannot make money. The paypal fees for sellers are also quite high. So I gave up. There is another problem with eBay: it's a pretty friendly platform for the sale of stolen goods and pirated software and other media. I've bought software there but am quite aware that if it's not in the box, it's probably cracked. However, the same is true for other online auctions, flea markets, classified­s, etc.
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writerjohnny
01:28 AM on 12/26/2009
Yes the leadership of the Nazi Party was a group of racist sociopaths but if someone wants to create, sell or buy a replica of a sign from a concentrat­ion camp it is and should be legal to do so. Censorship is a tactic the Nazis used and it is the opposite of democracy and freedom. Education and knowledge are the tactics freedom-lo­ving people use against racist propaganda and hate speech.
09:38 PM on 12/25/2009
For those of you comparing Israel's actions to the Holocaust, I suggest you do a great deal of reading on the Holocaust.
and shame on you.
01:46 PM on 12/26/2009
I would also suggest you read about what the Isreal did to the British and the Arab Christian communitie­s in Isreal.
02:23 PM on 12/26/2009
Thank you for making my point. You certainly are ignorant of what happened during the Holocaust. Education will set you free.

"Exodus 1947 was a ship that carried Jewish emigrants, that left France on July 11, 1947, with the intent of taking its passengers to Palestine, now known as Israel, then controlled by the British. Most of the emigrants were Holocaust survivor refugees, who had no legal immigratio­n certificat­es to Palestine. Following wide media coverage, the British Royal Navy seized the ship, and deported all its passengers back to Europe."
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WilliamL
01:50 PM on 12/25/2009
The trouble is "banning" things is that it leads to more control on general level and evoles into more control in other areas. The less people accept the "right" of control on a fundamenta­l level, the better.

It fall along the quote about not agree with what another says but willing to fight to the death for your right to say it.

Aside from the sign, like it or not, how is it against the law to seel a military knife? or other materail used from a military in WW II ? Would the same be said for the same item if used by the Japanese?

Its dicey but in order to protect the greater good along with insuring fascist regimes do not take root again, the less reestricti­ons, control, censorship the better.
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amber15
12:14 PM on 12/25/2009
I used to sell on ebay but they have lost their ethics and morals and have sold out to the almighty dollar. They sell "Canned Hunts" which are trips to africa where a so called "hunter" gets to chase and scare an innocent animal who is trapped in an enclosure where they shoot them to death and keep their body to hang on a wall somewhere. They also sell banned and illegal Ivory which promotes the slaughter of elephants and rhinos.
Great company...­..........­.perfect sign of america's devolution
09:39 PM on 12/25/2009
That's very sad, thank you for your post.
11:04 AM on 12/25/2009
not what I expected.

I thought, finally a rabbi is going to say something about the current genocide going on in the mid east.
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ariveria
01:10 PM on 12/25/2009
that would be sudan -- border line middle east. although it is christians that are victims of this genocide it is almost exclusivel­y the jews that have spoken against it.

2Thus saith the LORD, Learn not the way of the heathen, and be not dismayed at the signs of heaven; for the heathen are dismayed at them. 3For the customs of the people are vain: for one cutteth a tree out of the forest, the work of the hands of the workman, with the axe. 4They deck it with silver and with gold; they fasten it with nails and with hammers, that it move not.
Jeremiah 10:2-4
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courtb
01:33 PM on 12/27/2009
Christians­? Really? The irony of the situation in Darfur is that it is Muslims killing and brutalizin­g Muslims.
09:48 AM on 12/25/2009
Isn't EBAY's CEO a Candidate for some republican­, Right Wing CA position?
I No longer shop EBAY.
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ariveria
01:08 PM on 12/25/2009
of course she is.

2Thus saith the LORD, Learn not the way of the heathen, and be not dismayed at the signs of heaven; for the heathen are dismayed at them. 3For the customs of the people are vain: for one cutteth a tree out of the forest, the work of the hands of the workman, with the axe. 4They deck it with silver and with gold; they fasten it with nails and with hammers, that it move not.
Jeremiah 10:2-4
07:46 AM on 12/25/2009
Rabbi I cannot understand your feelings on this because I am not a Jew and I did not suffer the Holocaust. I do however have some sense of WWII since my father served with distinctio­n. My father went into the army in 1938 at the age of 16 when his widowed mother passed away and there were no relatives to take care of him. He landed in North Africa and went through the entire war and along the way saw some serious action. He was awarded the purple heart along with a chest full of medals and ribbons. He fought and killed an SS soldier in hand to hand combat and kept his dagger and armband as memorabili­a (I still have them). He never liked talking about the war and refused the title of hero. The starkest memory he had and told us about as children was when his small company came upon the Dachau concentrat­ion camp. They were the first ones there and the things he saw were etched in his mind forever. He taught us that no matter what anyone said the cruelty inflicted by the Germans was real, he saw it, he fought against it. He also said that we must never be afraid of freedom, we must never give into restrictin­g others to make us feel safer. As long as you hold true to your beliefs and keep pushing the truth through education the fringes of society will never be more than fringes.
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MountainPenelope
Hands off my micro-bio (& my Medicare)!
05:40 PM on 12/25/2009
Well said. Fanned & faved.

I am kind of surprised that eBay now allows this type of memorabili­a to be sold. It reflects a change in policy. I have seen many auctions of Nazi materials stopped in the past.

In fact, I had a book by Rudyard Kipling, published in 1923, on sale and it was removed because there was a "swastika" imprint on the title page. It is my understand­ing this swastika had nothing to do with Nazis.

I would never do anything to glorify such a regime. My dad almost died in WWII.

What is the answer? I don't know. I believe in freedom of speech, though I may despise the "speech" or speaker.
09:42 PM on 12/25/2009
I heart Kipling, I'm sure it was a reference to the swastika before the Nazis corrupted it.
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istvan13
The world needs more thinkers.
10:16 AM on 12/26/2009
Like many issues this is complex. I'd rather see the people return the swastika to the original meaning. As long as there is fear in an image, the hateful acts that created that fear are not healed.

The word "swastika" comes from the Sanskrit svastika - "su" meaning "good," "asti" meaning "to be," and "ka" as a suffix. Until the Nazis used this symbol, the swastika was used by many cultures throughout the past 3,000 years to represent life, sun, power, strength, and good luck.

Even in the early twentieth century, the swastika was still a symbol with positive connotatio­ns. For instance, the swastika was a common decoration that often adorned cigarette cases, postcards, coins, and buildings. During World War I, the swastika could even be found on the shoulder patches of the American 45th Division and on the Finnish air force until after World War II.

In the 1800s, countries around Germany were growing much larger, forming empires; yet Germany was not a unified country until 1871. To counter the feeling of vulnerabil­ity and the stigma of youth, German nationalis­ts in the mid-ninete­enth century began to use the swastika, because it had ancient Aryan/Indi­an origins, to represent a long Germanic/A­ryan history.
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mlaiuppa
Pres. Sarcasm Society. Like we need your approval.
04:32 AM on 12/25/2009
The best way to fight this kind of hate is with education. Something this country fell woefullly behind for about 8 years. Hopefully we'll be doing some catching up.

As for eBay. The free market is a double edged sword. They have their policies, but within the rules they set its a free for all.
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americawasgreatonce
Life is not fair, get used to it.
06:48 AM on 12/25/2009
I disagree..­. for 50 years the American schools have been very focused on the Holocaust.
01:54 AM on 12/26/2009
They've also been woefully sub-standa­rd in many cases, which is more likely the issue.