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Are Clergy Public Servants? Gov't Says NO!

Posted: 02/ 9/2012 11:20 am

Are clergy and teachers of religious faith/thought public servants? Is their work on par with that of others who work for 501c3 non-for-profit groups and for government agencies? It used to be, but as of Jan. 31 the federal government has changed its mind about that.

Although not known to most people, the federal government maintains a program called Public Service Loan Forgiveness. According to that program, after 10 years of public service work, any remaining federal student loans remaining for that worker would be forgiven. But what counts as public service?

Until the end of January, the government definition was clear and inclusive. It read as follows:

Qualifying employment is any employment with a federal, state, or local government agency, entity, or organization or a non-profit organization that has been designated as tax-exempt by the Internal Revenue Service (IRS) under Section 501(c)(3) of the Internal Revenue Code (IRC). The type or nature of employment with the organization does not matter for PSLF purposes. Additionally, the type of services that these public service organizations provide does not matter for PSLF purposes.

Now, though, the rules have changed. At the end of the description of who qualifies for this program, a new paragraph appears and it's striking not only in that it re-defines things, but that it does so in a way that seems purposefully disingenuous.

Generally, the type or nature of employment with the organization does not matter for PSLF purposes. However, if you work for a non-profit organization, your employment will not qualify for PSLF if your job duties are related to religious instruction, worship services, or any form of proselytizing.

So after telling us that pretty much everything qualifies, even going out of its way to highlight that neither the type of work nor nature of the organizations matters, the government slips in the fact that if faith or worship are part of your work, you don't qualify. What?!

Is faith really so threatening that it merits this singular exception? Well, perhaps it does. The careful separation of church and state is not simply a nice idea. It is a crucial part of our democracy, and a commitment based on the historic abuse of church-state entanglement. But as framed, this policy puts all of the weight of that question on those who can least afford to shoulder the burden -- students carrying loans.

If the government wants to re-visit making loans to those who study for religious careers, fine. I would oppose any change there, but I get it. Likewise, if the government wanted to revisit the tax-exempt status of religious institutions, I would get that as well. I would also oppose that, but I would understand it. But taking this out on those who can least afford it is simply wrong.

All that said, I also believe, especially given the otherwise broad definition of public service according to this law, that clergy and religious teachers should be considered public servants. On balance, there is no doubt about the public value created by faith and faith teaching in America.

While religion can be abused in the most horrendous ways, it remains a source of enormous social good and unprecedented public service. The new regulation seems to uphold only one of those truths, and in doing so, is actually taking a position on faith (dare is say, "establishing" one?) -- a hostile one.

While church-separation is a wise and necessary policy, separation is not about discrimination against, or hostility toward, religion. The law, as newly reformulated is clumsy at best, insensitive for certain, and may even be illegally hostile to religion. This one needs to change.

 

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07:38 AM on 02/12/2012
This law, passed by Bush, is to help students repay significant debt (upwards of $100,000) who go into nonprofit work. This includes doctors and lawyers who serve underserved communities, teachers, or people who work for the government. It encourages professionals to go into public service fields, rather than taking their high-priced educations and using them strictly for the enrichment of the private sector.

2.) There is no bright line between a clergy person as social worker and as religious worker. The student who is training to be a chaplain explained his work will involve listening and praying with people who are injured or dying in hospitals. This is not easily quanitfiable as "social work." But hey, it's a "free market" and we're all good Randian libertarians here, so let's all just die alone and afraid.

3.) Religious work does not equal conservative work. Clergy do outreach to LGBT communities, teach self-respect to poor kids, work on social justice programs, work with labor unions, suicide prevention, women's reproductive health, etc. This work is INSEPARABLE from their work as religious leaders.

4.) I profoundly dislike the work of Focus on the Family, Heritage Foundation, Concerned Women for America, and National Organization for Marriage. But if I work for these organizations, I receive Federal student loan forgiveness. If I work as a pastor for a church that supports social justice causes and LGBT equality, apparently I don't.
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farmilyman
everything is illusion
11:35 AM on 02/11/2012
Absolutely not. They take far more than they give.
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Nate35
11:33 AM on 02/11/2012
"Religious instructio­n, worship services, or any form of proselytiz­ing" do not benefit the public. Easiest policy decision ever.
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unimatrix0
01:56 AM on 02/11/2012
This is not a bad thing, this is common sense. Public service means serving the public, no mater who they are. A religion picks and choses those from the public they wish to help. You want to adopt, ok, please step forward if you believe in God, are married, and are not gay (and in some case, do not have gay children already living your house).
Most people think the Salvation Army is a charity but it is not, they are a religion, and they are very picky on who they will help (again homosexuals are on their untouchables list and they have spent millions fighting same sex marriage laws).
There are many wonderful religions that are not hate based, but why should the Vatican be able to send all their priests and nuns to college for free (or any religion) and then have the US government just forgive their student loans because their career is religion. Seperation of church and state. I think sending all public teachers, state social workers (public), nurses, and EMTs to college knowing the loans will be forgiven if they are in their fields for 10yrs is far more beneficial than helping Rev. Phelps and his followers get an education for free to pick funerals of dead children.
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iLdoRight
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12:37 AM on 02/11/2012
How often are "Public Servants" more the servants of "special Interest People" and how often are "religious servants" more servants of "their own special interests" rather than "Our Creator's interests"?
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whirlpool
founder walnut tree congregation
01:53 PM on 02/10/2012
So if a Cherokee student with college loans wants to practice shamanism, his/her loan should be forgiven? Hey it works for me.
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MarcEdward
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12:33 PM on 02/10/2012
I think something is misread here.
" if your job duties are related to religious instruction, worship services, or any form of proselytizing."
Is not the same as 
"the government slips in the fact that if faith or worship are part of your work, you don't qualify. "
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TheWM
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10:02 AM on 02/10/2012
"there is no doubt about the public value created by faith and faith teaching in America"

Oh. Okay.

Well, thanks for clearing that up.
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09:38 AM on 02/10/2012
If you don't serve all beliefs, creeds, disbelief, ideas and anything else under the sun, there is no way in this secular world that you should be considered a public employ if you are a clergy member.
06:15 AM on 02/10/2012
When it comes to contraceptive coverage, they WANT exceptions.

When it comes to receiving public funds for their preaching activities, they DONT WANT exceptions.

When it comes to renting their facilities for same-sex marriages, they WANT exceptions.

When it comes to renting public buildings for worship purposes, they DONT WANT exceptions.
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unimatrix0
02:01 AM on 02/11/2012
BINGO! Oh, wait, that's another exception. Gambling is a sin, and against the law, but a church put on bingo as a fund raiser and all is OK, but if people gamble at a for-profit Bingo hall they have to fly to Vegas or go to an Indian casino. Makes a lot of sense.
12:52 AM on 02/10/2012
I'm a Jewish seminarian who is studying to become a hospital chaplain. The hospital that hires me one day will be hiring me to do the following things:

1. To be available 24/7 to offer crisis support to individuals and families facing trauma / death of a loved one. (I am not allowed -- and have no desire -- to mention ANYTHING religious unless the family specifically indicates they want me to. In any case, I am expected to "speak the religious language" that the family requests, not my own.)
2. To serve as a patient advocate.
3. To offer emotional support to people faced with when taking a loved one off of a respirator, or when considering organ donation. While this is a religious decision for many people, for many it is not. We serve both groups.
4. To be available 24/7 to help doctors break bad news to families.
5. To help mediate disputes between staff members, patients, their families.
6. To serve on the hospital's ethics board.

You would be surprised to find out how many of the not-necessarily-religious functions I described are also filled by clergy people in your community.

I know there's a lot of hurt regarding the ways that religion has been used to abuse people. I carry some of that hurt myself. Please don't take it out on people going into debt in order to be with you in your darkest hours, who have absolutely no intention of preaching to you.
06:18 AM on 02/10/2012
"Daren Briscoe, a Department of Education spokesman, said via email that "many employees at faith-based social service organizations will be eligible for the PSLF program. He added that the latest document "did not change existing Federal policy, but clarified that individuals working at religiously-affiliated non-profit organizations who perform at least 30 hours of non-religious activities are eligible for PSLF, and that, consistent with similar long-standing programs, the federal government does not subsidize explicitly religious activity."
07:06 AM on 02/12/2012
Yeah, and? He's going to be a chaplain. He's going to be praying with people who are dying. According to this new rule, that doesn't count as "public service."
11:37 PM on 02/09/2012
So if you work for the government, you get a free education. No wonder the SEIU is all for Obama. What else do we pay for?
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crowepps
08:06 PM on 02/09/2012
While public value certainly is created by people of faith who are willing to provide real services, the provision of "religious instruction, worship services, or any form of proselytizing" isn't 'service', it's advertising.

Social good and public service are provided by those who do practical work for real people at homeless shelters and soup kitchens and social welfare organizations and those people do get their loans forgiven even if the reason for their career choice is their faith. There's no reason the taxpayer should fund the educations of people who plan careers asserting their religious beliefs are better than others. We have an overabundant supply of sanctimonious know-it-alls who want to tell everybody else what to do already.
07:34 PM on 02/09/2012
The furtherance of religion is of no value to society. Get over yourself.
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Jie Jones
"Eat me!" -- Jesus, at the Last Supper
07:15 PM on 02/09/2012
Why, Rabbi, do you have a problem with this? It is amazingly intellectually dishonest of you. Especially given that you state that you can understand reviewing religious tax exemptions, etc. Perhaps you should relocate to a nice theocracy.