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Biblical Economic Justice: Supply and Demand Isn't Enough

Posted: 01/ 9/2012 2:20 pm

As the voters of the United States recommence the process of electing the next President, it is important to recall our core values. Liberals and conservatives, Democrats and Republicans may legitimately differ on how best to implement those values, but clarifying what values remain our bedrock is the first step toward assuring that these policy disputes remain constructive. One of those bedrock values is, in the words of the Declaration of Independence, "providing for the general welfare." In biblical terms it is "loving your neighbor as yourself."

During my second year in college, I decided to take the introductory course in economics. After all, learning how we allocate resources, create products, and encourage creativity and productivity all seemed like important tools for being an informed citizen. The Intro to Economics course was wildly popular, offered not in a classroom but a university theater in order to accommodate the standing-room-only numbers of students who enrolled. This class, clearly, held the keys not only to information, but to influence and power.

At the first lecture, the professor taught us about supply and demand, an economic model for determining the price of a good in the market. Equilibrium (the price charged for a product) rests at the intersection of Supply provided by producers (at a particular price) with the quantity of Demand (at a particular price) by consumers. When those two meet at a single point, their market equilibrium is found. That price marks the most efficient level for the production and distribution of a product.

Note that "demand" here does not equate to human need, but to the ability (and willingness) to pay for a product. No money -- no demand.

"Wait a minute," I objected. "You mean that if someone is starving on the street, penniless, then according to this model they have no demand to measure?" Right, I was told. Demand measures ability and willingness to pay, not need. You can starve to death with no measurable "demand," no impact on the market whatsoever.

At that moment, I realized that market economics measures efficient production and distribution of resources, but nothing more. Like Darwinian evolution, it possesses no moral compass; it simply describes what is, not what ought to be. And -- again like Darwinian evolution -- its mechanism doesn't integrate values such as compassion, minimizing suffering, protecting the weak, expressing a commitment to love or justice. Supply and demand measures efficiency -- an important concern to be sure, but by itself, incomplete. Just as our society makes decisions that integrate values other than Darwinian survival (we are committed to foster the flourishing of the individual, to intervene to heal the sick, to educate and empower the disabled and the underprivileged), so too our economic priorities must integrate but cannot be limited to market efficiency. There are other important values we also must advance. Supply and demand, by itself, does not evaluate when there might be concerns that override efficiency in particular cases -- feeding impoverished school children, for instance, making sure that indigent elderly have shelter, providing inoculations where needed, internalizing the cost of industrial waste dumped into our air and seas.

Such a commitment to human flourishing even at the occasional expense of efficiency is as consensual as our founding fathers and as sacred as Scripture: It was Thomas Jefferson, after all, who reminds us that "we hold these truths to be self-evident: that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain inalienable rights; that among these rights are life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness." God-given concern for life, liberty and happiness are the proper goals of American democracy. Market efficiency is often a tool that advances those goals, but the goals are more encompassing than efficiency and sometimes require us to modify our commitment to the free market in support of more ultimate goals.

The Bible itself provides ample examples of laws that modify the unbridled rights of property owners: we are commanded to leave the corners of our fields unharvested, and to harvest our crops but once. Any remaining produce becomes the property of the poor, and they are legally entitled to access to that yield. Mandatory funds are established so the poor can sustain themselves, and the rich were obligated to provide food, clothing and sustenance for the widow, the orphan and the poor. Ancient Israel provided community education for all (male) children. One legal standard applied to rich and poor alike, with all contributing their fair share in tax revenue. Fields are to lie fallow every seventh (Sabbatical) and 50th (Jubilee) years to renew their bounty. While the market forces of supply and demand were the baseline for ancient Israel's economic activity, both Bible and Talmud delineate a prohibition of excessive profits, which were held to be sinful and impermissible.

Biblical Israel aspired to attain a vision in which all people were recognized as reflections of God's image -- each person of equal worth and dignity. That theological commitment, as it does in the USA's Declaration of Independence and in the world's Scriptures, mandates concern for the individual that sometimes supersedes the mechanism of market efficiency.

Democrats and Republicans, conservatives and liberals should legitimately dispute which policies best advance that bedrock commitment. Such debates can help the nation better understand the challenges ahead and how most effectively to address them. But the underlying commitment must remain bipartisan supreme.

An economy that ignores supply and demand may find itself lacking the resources to sustain itself. We properly work with market economics as the starting point for our economic activity.

But an extremism that elevates supply and demand to its solitary and highest priority rejects a more encompassing Biblical commitment to care for the widow and the orphan, to provide food and clothing for the poor, to educate and nurture all its children, to live harmoniously with creation. Such a idolatrous dogmatism must be rejected, both in the name of our Founding Fathers and in the name of the world's wisdom traditions.

 
 
 
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11:03 AM on 02/04/2012
i was taught "one for the widow, the orphan; one for the crow; one for the soldier, as to war he go"
10:50 PM on 01/16/2012
Why does an overall excellent article on economic justice by Rabbi Artson have to inspire such animosity? Of course, this is the spiral of discussion in the comment section of pretty much every article relating to religion at HuffPost, so why should anyone be surprised.
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02:08 PM on 01/11/2012
Thank you. I have never looked at supply and demand in quite this way. Indeed, our market economy ignores and blames those least able to help themselves. The current wave of taking away retirement benefits adds to this problem.
05:18 AM on 01/11/2012
"I have never understood why conservative entrepreneurs are so all-fired pious and Bible-thumping, let alone why so many of them claim Jesus as their best friend and personal savior. The Old Testament is bad enough: The commandments forbid us even to envy or covet our neighbor's goods, and thus condemn the very spirit of emulation and ambition that makes enterprise possible. But the New Testament is worse: It tells us to forget thrift and saving, to take no thought for the morrow, and to throw away our hard-earned wealth on the shiftless and the losers." -- Christopher Hitchens
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08:29 PM on 01/10/2012
Rabbi your use of Jefferson's quote undermines the premise you wished to support. You essentially assert that we have a right to catch happiness, yet the far wiser Jefferson noted only a right to pursue it.
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thebearclaw007
Is your conscience functioning properly?
01:48 PM on 01/10/2012
In some articles on HuffPo, religious topics are too intellectualized and many simply miss the point of what religion is all about. Well this writer has definitely won the lottery. He has struck a perfect balance and made a wonderful contribution. Congrats! I for one look forward to not only reading more from him, but also to seeing how we incorporate his wonderful insights into better serving the people of this nation/world. Excellent work!
01:26 PM on 01/10/2012
One of the biggest problems is trying to determine the definition of need. Because of the affluence of American society, the bar has continued to rise so that unless everyone has a car, house, tv, xbox, etc. then they are poor and needy. There are many who really do need help and support, but those who do not need assistance and take it anyway hurt society as a whole.

While I agree with the majority of the article, the author ignores the clear distinction between the needy in the Bible and the "needy" in America.
03:38 PM on 01/10/2012
I think we have a basis for determining need by looking at calculations for living wage statutes. You need food, clothing, decent housing and a liveable environment (warm in the coldest months, tolerably cool in the hotest), water, and healthcare. I'd include affordable and reliable transportation. It's not that challenging. As it was once explained to me, people living in poverty often buy things that make their lives better, such as a television, if they get a little money, because unless the stream of funds is ongoing, they can't move up to a bigger/nicer house/apartment, etc. We need to stop this definitely unBiblical idea about deserving and undeserving and have a reasonable discussion about what people need to live a decent life...and make that happen.
07:45 PM on 01/10/2012
Quite right.

I remember a coworker who earned little money. In order to purchase a new sound system he skipped several meals. A poor household may possess flashy clothes and a new Cadillac but they are still needy. All of their income goes to these few luxuries to boost morale and self-image. Also how much is spent on cigarettes and beer and pot?
We may not like the spending habits of certain people, but then as you correctly pointed out they have little else to spend their few bucks and saving their money would not better their material condition. The thousand dollars wasted on cigarettes would to go to where? College tuition or vocational training?
07:39 PM on 01/10/2012
Sorry to say but needs do change. Poor folk require access to transportation in order to get to jobs and to sell their wares. In most areas of the United States the only form of transportation is a car. Many poor folk own houses that were passed down generations. Take a walk through a poor district or ward and you will see these ramshackle homes with leaking roofs. They cannot afford to maintain them. This is also true in rural areas as well. Poor families in the maquiladora areas of Mexico can afford to own a television but they have to drive their family truck or car around to recharge the car battery used to run the T.V. They have no electricity. And if by America you are referring to only the U.S., well Mexico is part of North America. There is afterall NAFTA for all the good that it provided people.

How then do you define needing assistance?
12:27 PM on 01/10/2012
In a broken world inhabited by broken people, nothing will ever be enough.

That is why Jesus said, "You will always have the poor with you."

So each of us does what we can. I don't believe in forcing others to give. We encourage them to give.
03:46 PM on 01/10/2012
"The poor will always be with you" is probably the most abused verse in the Bible. If you read the version in John 12:6, you will see that Jesus says that Judas "said [that the perfume should be sold and the money given to the poor] not because he cared about the poor, but because he was a thief; he kept the common purse and used to steal what was put into it." The Biblical call for justice, for those who claim to follow it, mandates that we "do justice," just as the author of this article states. Jesus summarized in this way: "‘Woe to you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! For you tithe mint, dill, and cumin, and have neglected the weightier matters of the law: justice and mercy and faith. It is these you ought to have practiced without neglecting the others. You blind guides! You strain out a gnat but swallow a camel!" (Matthew 23:23-24) Only someone not fully familiar with his teachings would say that giving, and more importantly creating a just society, is optional for Christians.
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11:41 AM on 01/10/2012
The problem is that the comforts of our culture make a lot of people entitled and lazy. Those people don't take advantage of the education they are given, and they drop out, get pregnant, and work low skilled jobs the rest of their life. As time goes on, technology replaces these low skill jobs, and the labor pool for these workers becomes diminished. Given their lack of proper education, they find it very difficult to get new work. These types of people tend to have more children than they've ever been able to afford, and given their lack of education and work ethic, these children end up having the same problems as their parents. It's a vicious cycle. I am of the mind that it is this cycle that needs to change, and not it's symptoms. Parents have already made their choices, but their children still have an opportunity.

Solution:
-Government funded workhouses to house, feed, and train the poor while keeping them productive.
-Stricter rules on who can have children and when (instability, poverty, or lack of education = no kids for you)
-Government funded healthcare for all children whose parents cannot afford it
-Government funded boarding schools for children with unstable homes
03:52 PM on 01/10/2012
Wow, you're really living in a delusion filled with false stereotypes. Turn around and look at the person cooking your food and cleaning up after you. Go to the rural areas and see them breaking their backs to pull vegetables out of the fields and slaughtering your meat to fill your plate three times a day.
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04:37 PM on 01/10/2012
Not really. Ask anyone in customer service or the medical industry about American entitlement. Ask someone in the education sector or in other child care services about the parents who really should have never been allowed to have children. Numerous studies have shown that children of poor and undereducated parents tend to be significantly more likely to be poor and undereducated when they grow up. Children from dysfunctional households tend to be more likely to be dysfunctional. Children from both poor and dysfunctional households tend to be more likely to go to prison. Statistics don't lie, despite what Mark Twain thought. If you've read Freakonomics, you would have heard of the study that indicated that the legalization of abortion led to a significant decline in crime. I'm just saying that we need to prevent children from growing up in inappropriate environments so that we'll have enough money to care for the ones that slip through the cracks. Ultimately, it really is about money. We can't afford to care for everyone the same way they do in successful socialist countries. We also spend far too much on law enforcement, the court system, and the prison system.

I may seem intolerant, but the truth isn't always politically correct. The best solution to problems might not always be the most popular for everyone.
06:45 PM on 01/10/2012
1) Education is no guarantee for upward mobility. There are many poor graduates of universities and the number is growing.

2) Life is complicated and your scenarios oversimplify it.

3) In certain instances technology has replaced both skilled and unskilled jobs. But where is this technology developed and where is it being manufactured?

4) It is hard to finde "new work" even with the proper education.

5) Yes, poverty generally breeds large families. This is an observation made by Adam Smith. Have you ever looked into the reasons? Consider this: (A) when dreams are destroyed the future is held in the hands of young babes. Children are a symbol of hope for the poor. and (B) it is an unspoken social protest making the poor ubiquitous. The point is made that though we (the working poor) live within society's margins we are everywhere. We make up the crushing crowds of your great cities.

6)Your notions hark back to the social work movement of the 1800s. For instance Charles Loring Brace founded the Orphan Train Movement in which New York City street urchins were whisked away to work under hardship as proverbial indentured servants to farm families in the Midwest. Some of these children failed to thrive and did not survive the hardships.

And so you are back to square one reviving old methods for regulating the poor.
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09:36 AM on 01/11/2012
1 & 4) It's true to an extent. It's about supply and demand. Some types of workers are in more demand than others. Getting the RIGHT kind of education significantly increases your likelihood of getting a job. Ultimately though, the more educated the populace, the better politicians they elect. Right now, we're a big fan of electing idiots.
2) HP won't let me write a book in their comment section. I obviously don't have the time or the space for account for everything.
3) The issue is that development and manufacturing technologies tend to increasingly rely on technology. The workforce needed to perform these functions require increasingly complex technical training.
5) Or because they're Catholic (it happens), or they are too irresponsible or ignorant of the proper way to use birth control. Kids happen, then crushed dreams. Not the other way around.
6) I agree, but I'm not advocating that anyone be treated inhumanely. I like the idea of orphanages, but not the same kind that exist in 3rd world countries or those that existed prior to people realizing that they were really bad for kids. Just because something failed once doesn't mean it wouldn't be able to work if done differently.
09:54 AM on 01/10/2012
isn't it individuals that are regularly biblically implored to share resources with the poor? Where are organizations and institutions called on to do God's work? I believe they are not. If giving without compassion benefits none, then government redistribution also benefit none. How many taxes are lovingly paid? Compelling men (via force: tax law, guns and prisons) to forgo their own resources so a 3rd party can distribute them never creates in the giver a clean and loving heart. Force and inefficiency create apathy towards society, suspicion towards the administrators and resentment towards the receivers.

I believe this is why the bible does not call our governing and/or secular institutions to charity. Saying "i pay my taxes" does not satisfy God's call to protect the weak and care for the needy.

We should not burden our polities with responsibilities we are personally given. Feeding the poor is a goal. Improving the souls of both giver and receiver are also goals. Only 1 of these can be satisfied by overburdening Ceasar's system to do God's work.

This is why I do not believe that the market should be anything other than a brutal, a-moral, hyper-efficient market. The proceeds of such are greater than any other system and thus generate more potential for human flourishing. If we then choose to invest those proceeds in Xbox's and Nike's while millions starve, then shame on us. Would we have done any better with less?
03:55 PM on 01/10/2012
Read the Bible more thoroughly. The Hebrew prophets condemned the governments of their time--the kings--for not caring for those who live in poverty. For Christians, Jesus in Matthew 25:31 called on the NATIONS to be judged for whether people are fed and cared for. It's the one place he separates out those who are condemned and those who are blessed AS PEOPLES. The mechanism for the common good is government. No one has to follow the Bible, but you can't say that you are doing that if you want to avoid what's mandated there.
07:06 PM on 01/10/2012
The country split into two kingdoms not because of heavy taxation but due to the manner in which it was spent primarily on the erection of fine palaces and temples to various deities, The taxpayers of those days received little in the form of public goods. This began in the time of king Solomon.
11:21 PM on 01/12/2012
Thanks for pointing those out! I'm a new and learning Christian and never intended to lay claim to any deep biblical scholarship. While I'm not 100% clear on the relation, my understanding is that Christians have no debt or bond to old testament law. My working response is that "nation" is a verbal functional equivalent of "all of the people in the nation". If not that, then what precisely is it that is being judged or blessed? Can abstract concepts be judged or blessed? I guess if "nation" is more geographical it makes more sense, but ultimately doesn't any blessings or judgement need to roll down to individual people in order for us to say that anything has happened at all? Doesn't that leave my position in tact?
07:04 PM on 01/10/2012
However the reality is quite different:

(1) Private charities depend on government support which enables them to reach greater number of needy people. Without this support many of these private institutions would collapse while others would drastically shrink their outreach.

(2) The surplus from markets is plowed back as speculative demand inflating the value of equity (i.e., investment capital). A momentum is built up that accelerates and we have a paper chase where profits are pursued through the production of negotiable instruments that in turn are inflated to make more profits. This ends in a massive market correction (the bursting of the bubble) and massive immiseration as we have seen played out in this last financial panic called the Great Recession.

You cannot have both laissez-faire Capitalism combined with private charities and effectively address the problems of food stress, malnutrition, unemployment, social angst, petty crime, chemical dependency, unwanted pregnancies, clinical depression, and other mood disorders.
12:00 AM on 01/13/2012
I love responses that I don't understand better than anything else, because they cause me to either learn or clarify something.

1) Doesn't all support the government may grant originate among the people before entering the official coffers via taxation or nationalization? If the government were taking less from the people wouldn't there be less need among those who have some resource and a corresponding increase in their capability to aid someone else? I believe that centralizing the accumulation of wealth for government redistribution is inherently flawed, fraud prone, and an extremely enticing target for abuse and theft. Lots of small, distributed, local accumulation and redistribution efforts (think church or soup kitchen, not federal welfare) avoid these penalties. They both operate more efficiently, because the administrators are part of the community and can better detect and prevent fraud, and present much less valuable targets thus attracting less capable abusers and leaving the entire little system in better shape. I think a real system like this could meet the majority of localized need, leaving only large, region disabling disasters for the government to help with.
12:04 AM on 01/13/2012
2) Agreed. let's stop doing that. As soon as we all stop wanting to retire well, stop wanting to leave more to our children than we had, stop expecting our investments to grow, stop expecting interest, then all of this greedy behavior will go away right? Just like democratic republics get the exact government they deserve, we also largely get the corporations and investment vehicles we deserve. We earn them through choosing which companies to do business with, which to invest in, and which to shun. I think that conscientious consumerism and demands for ethical behavior and transparency from the companies a market honors with business can steer every corporate entity in it. The fact is that we are demanding those things with our voices while enabling the opposite with out tender.

I've got doubts about completely unfettered laissez-faire. The one class of regulation I think I'm willing to tolerate is the limiting of the sizes of things. I don't know if size is measured in yards, dollars, people or market share. I do feel a need to prevent anything from presenting a systemic failure risk if it fails. For destructive creation to function I think we are compelled to accept the needed evil of systemic-failure-risk avoidance via capping individual organizational 'success' to a level that if they make later mistakes the system doesn't fail. It makes me squirm uncomfortably to say so but I don't have a better alternative.

And the people say ...
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08:53 AM on 01/10/2012
Though this is a well-written post on the workings of social justice, I really would have liked to see some clear examples of the types of justice set out in certain Biblical passages:

What about the gleaning rituals and procedures for harvesting crops sampled in Deuteronomy 24:19-22 that ensures that the leftovers go to the needy in the community, and what God's intention and purposes were for instituting such a ritual?

What about the messages of prophets like Isaiah, Jeremiah, and Amos, whose messages of social justice predate and often exceed those made by Jesus in the Christian Scriptures?

If there is going to be a discussion of social justice in Biblical literature, we must be provided with examples and explanations of why those passages exist in the first place. Great article, lacking in support...
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11:59 AM on 01/10/2012
If one looks at the Hebrew alphabet, one sees the first letter aleph. This represents "god." The second letter is a house with a roof, a floor and a door. The second letter is also the beginning letter of the "Bible" and life. The third letter is a person running to the fourth letter. The fourth letter represents someone in need. If that person has to ask you for help, you have already failed in life.
07:13 PM on 01/10/2012
We must move beyond the Bible. Today, there is no priesthood. Diasporic Judaism has replaced the tithe to the priest with one to the poor and communal institutions.

Is the gathering of the field's gleaning an effective way of protecting families from food stress? How would it be applied in urban areas. Note that the majority of the U.S. population, for instance, does not reside on farms or in rural areas.

Your other comments concerning the need to explore the background in which these messages for social or distributive justice were made is relevant to Bible study and is worth exploring.
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08:51 AM on 01/10/2012
We need to revive our spiritual life by not voting for leaders who embrace the New World Order. It;s been a long time in the making. There is no other alternativ­­e for those in power to establish their goal to demoralize and dehumanize civilizati­­on so they can grab everything in their greed and take control of the population­­s of the world. That includes genocide, child labor and child sex slavery for these perverted so called educated men who are held in high esteem, unfortunat­­ely. Every department of government has been filled with the dire sewage of the greed filled leaders of the world. The New World Order of Wickedness is upon us, but despite how dismal it may seem, the victor will be the Almighty Heavenly Father as His righteous judgement prevails and knocks the predators of this wickedness off their pedestals. I don't say this as being knowledgea­­ble, but rather by inspiratio­­n of the Holy Spirit of our Heavenly Father which is alive and well in His children and we all need to be aware of this so that through us His work will be done. .
07:16 PM on 01/10/2012
Do not be blind to history. It has been a seesaw in which benevolence triumphs to be overtaken by despotism and vice versa. In the end who knows what will triumph. Indeed what end and to what end? Perhaps, we continue to reside on this plane of being, generation after generation, just as we had in the past. Linear time marches onward and we cycle around it.
01:01 AM on 01/10/2012
To compel a man to furnish funds for the propagation of ideas he disbelieves and abhors is sinful and tyrannical.
-Thomas Jefferson

And, this gem:

“Why should either two men live at the discretion of three, or three at the discretion of two? Both propositions are absurd from a reasonable point of view. If being a slave and owning a slave are both wrong relations, what different does it make whether there are a million slave owners and one slave, or one slave owner and a million slaves? Do robbery and murder cease to be what they are if done by ninety-nine percent of the population?†- Auberon Herbert

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09:06 AM on 01/10/2012
It is not thievery to take back what was rightfully ours to begin with. The rich have been subsidized in this nation far more than the poor.
07:11 PM on 01/10/2012
Kenneth:

Actually, it is the poor that have been subsidized the most, it is the reason that they have negative effective federal tax rates…they get paid to be American. Our top tax expenditures go to the poor and middle class and the rich tend to highest effective tax rate and bear the biggest percentage of federal tax liabilities

But tell you what, the best way to solve this problem is to limit the government from being a wealth-transfer agent. In which case, they can take form group of Americans and give to another…that way the rich cannot take from the poor and the poor cannot take from the rich.

Kai
07:18 PM on 01/10/2012
Good point. One can look at how the U.S. government granted acres of land to the railroad companies that transformed the countryside and the way we farm the land and distribute is produce. Concentration of capital is not formed in a vacuum as the state is its handmaiden.
01:00 AM on 01/10/2012
“A wise and frugal Government, which shall restrain men from injuring one another, shall leave them otherwise free to regulate their own pursuits of industry and improvement, and shall not take from the mouth of labor the bread it has earned†Thomas Jefferson's First Inaugural Address, 1801.

“I am for doing good to the poor, but I differ in opinion of the means. I think the best way of doing good to the poor, is not making them easy in poverty, but leading or driving them out of it. In my youth I traveled much, and I observed in different countries, that the more public provisions were made for the poor, the less they provided for themselves¬, and of course became poorer. And, on the contrary, the less was done for them, the more they did for themselves¬, and became richer.

Benjamin Franklin, On the Price of Corn and Management of the Poor, November 1766â€

"It would reduce the whole instrument to a single phrase, that of instituting a Congress with power to do whatever would be for the good of the United States; and as they would be the sole judges of the good or evil, it would be also a power to do whatever evil they please. Certainly no such universal power was meant to be given them. [The Constitution] was intended to lace them up straightly within the enumerated powers and those without which, as means, these powers could not be carried into effect." ~ TJefferson
01:00 AM on 01/10/2012
Mr Bradley:

You mischaracterize the use of ‘providing for the general welfare.’ As must progressives do. Nowhere in the constitution is it expected that one group of people be forced to work as slaves to take care of another group of people…and that is what forcing tax-and-transfer programs are. You are forcing one group of people to work (as slaves) to provide for another group of people. In this case the rich and middle class must work a certain amount every year to pay to subsidize other people.

Our founding fathers summed it up best.

In 1794, for example, James Madison, the principal author of the Constitution, rose on the House floor to object to a bill appropriating $15,000 for the relief of French refugees who had fled to Baltimore and Philadelphia from an insurrection in San Domingo. He could not, he said, "undertake to lay [his] finger on that article of the Federal Constitution which granted a right to Congress of expending, on objects of benevolence, the money of their constituents." The bill failed.

"To take from one, because it is thought that his own industry and that of his fathers has acquired too much, in order to spare others, who, or whose fathers have not exercised equal industry and skill, is to violate arbitrarily the first principle of association, 'the guarantee to every one of a free exercise of his industry, and the fruits acquired by it.'"--Thomas Jefferson
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08:50 AM on 01/10/2012
Some people use terms like 'slavery' in such a demagogic, unreflected way that one feels compelled to wish they'd get the opportunity to actually experience what they are talking about.
07:13 PM on 01/10/2012
What do you call it when one person is forced againt their will to support another person? There is no other word for it.

I experience it every time I pay my taxes.

Kai
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10:03 PM on 01/10/2012
It's standard libertarian ronzombie language. Taxes = slavery.
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09:05 AM on 01/10/2012
Of course, I'm sure you are taking into account that the people you are quoting were the 1% of first generation of Americans. They wrote those words in the Declaration to sound good, but just like the wealthy today, their biggest problem was that Britain was costing them money. Politicians back then weren't that different from politicians today. If you really think that tax-and-transfer programs are "forcing one group of people to work as slaves to provide for another group of people," then you fail to understand two things. First of all, I have not in my life met a rich man who actually worked. Second, the poor are not the lazy welfare queens conservatives wish they were. You've clearly never worked a job where you had to work 50 hours a week or more, all of it on your feet, doing physically demanding work, just to provide for your family. The truth is the rich and middle class don't subsidize the poor. The poor and middle class work to subsidize the rich. 95% percent do the work, while 5% reap most of the benefit. I am loathe to take Jefferson's opinion on "the guarantee to every one of a free exercise of his industry and the fruits acquired by it," when his own fruits were acquired by the not-so-free exercise of his slaves.
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10:20 AM on 01/10/2012
You've not met a "rich" man who actually worked? An incredible statistical anomoly. I think your life experiences may come up a little short in many respects.
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Once in awhile you get shown the light.
03:02 PM on 01/10/2012
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