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Religious Leaders Must Preach Tolerance, Compassion Toward LGBT Community

Posted: 11/06/10 05:26 PM ET

I recently saw the movie "It's Kind of a Funny Story." The movie, based on the 2006 novel by Ned Vizzini, deals with teenage depression and suicide in a very real and honest way. I might have reacted differently to this movie had I seen it before the recent wave of teen suicides in the LGBT community that have made national headlines. Each of the four teen characters in the movie suffer from depression in one way or another. And while none of them is homosexual, watching the movie I was forced to consider the responsibility that I, as a rabbi, have in preaching tolerance and compassion toward the LGBT community to eradicate this epidemic.

The high rate of suicide among gay and lesbian teens has been brought to light in the darkest way possible. Communities have been devastated by the news of gay teens being bullied to the point of taking their own lives. The reaction to these tragedies has been mixed, as have the reactions to the reactions. For example, I'm sure that Clint McCance, the vice president of the Midland, Ark. School Board, never expected the reaction he received after posting his anti-gay rant on Facebook. That a leader in a school system could make such hurtful and shameful comments publicly on the Web about his fellow human beings is outrageous. It is up to religious leaders to shift the national conversation on LGBT issues to one that prioritizes human dignity and compassion.

On Oct. 19, as Facebook users across the nation were changing their profile pictures to a purple hue to publicize the need for compassion toward the gay community and in memory of the gay teens who killed themselves, another tragedy was taking place. At Oakland University in Michigan, where I serve as a visiting professor of Jewish Studies, yet another gay teen ended his life after being bullied relentlessly since coming out a few months ago. Less than a week earlier on Oakland's campus, a lunchtime program sponsored by the Gender and Sexuality Center screened the film "Bullied," a teaching-tolerance documentary. The banner advertising the event still hung in the hallway of the student union in the days following Corey Jackson's death, as if to say, "Something more must be done."

To show my support to the LGBT community, along with millions of others, I added a purple tint to my Facebook and Twitter profile pictures on Spirit Day. All of the responses I received were positive and supportive, except for the comment left on my Facebook page by a politically conservative Orthodox Jew. He simply added the link to a New York Post article by Maggie Gallagher, president of the National Organization for Marriage titled, "Don't blame me for gay teen suicides." I read the article and then felt even sadder. Gallagher argues that she doesn't have blood on her hands when gay teens are bullied and kill themselves. She conveniently shifts the conversation to the gay marriage debate, but at issue here is allowing gay and lesbian teens to feel pride and comfort in society so they don't get bullied, fall into depression, and eventually take their own lives. Until this horrific trend ends, all Americans have blood on our collective hands.

My teacher, Rabbi Steven Greenberg, recently wrote a powerful opinion piece in The New York Jewish Week titled, "The Cost of Standing Idly By." The first article of Greenberg's I ever read was in a rabbinical school class at the Jewish Theological Seminary when he was still a closeted gay man using the pseudonym "Jacob Levado" (a reference to the patriarch Jacob of the Hebrew Scriptures feeling alone). Here, Greenberg relates what happened when he and his partner relocated from New York City to Cincinnati. Soon after they arrived, the rabbi of the local Orthodox congregation called apologetically to inform him that he and his partner were not welcome to attend the synagogue based on a ruling from another rabbi. Greenberg contacted the rabbi who issued the ruling and shared with him that "people who are gay and lesbian who want to remain true to the Torah, are in a great deal of pain. Many have just left the community. Some young gay people become so desperate they attempt suicide."

Most people would expect the religious leader to respond to that last sentence with some amount of compassion, perhaps deep sadness. However, he replied, "Maybe it's a mitzvah (commandment) for them to do so." The speechless Greenberg asked for clarification and was told that what he heard was precisely what the rabbi intended to say. In other words, since homosexuals are guilty for capital crimes according to the Torah, perhaps it might be a good idea for them to do the job themselves. Wow! I wonder how many Jewish people will read that statement and question if this is the right religion for them.

Rather than let this uncompassionate individual silence him or force him to find a more inclusive community, Greenberg came up with a list of three steps his colleagues in the Orthodox rabbinate, and leaders in Orthodox institutions, can and should take at this time. He encourages them to sign the Statement of Principles, which says that "embarrassing, harassing or demeaning someone with a homosexual orientation or same-sex attraction is a violation of Torah prohibitions that embody the deepest values of Judaism." Second, he calls on Orthodox institutions to sign a letter, initiated by the LGBT advocacy group Keshet, condemning bullying and homophobia in the Jewish community. Third, he states that Orthodox institutions must immediately cut off any support or endorsement of so-called "reparative therapy."

I would take Greenberg's call to action a step further and call upon all religious leaders, regardless of faith, to advocate for tolerance and compassion toward the LGBT community. We all stand firm in trying to eradicate the other stressors leading to teenage depression and suicide. Why should the bullying of gay teens be any different? This epidemic is only made worse by the inflammatory comments of people like the Orthodox rabbi who proposed that it's a mitzvah for gay teens to kill themselves and Clint McCance, a school board official who wrote on Facebook, "It pisses me off though that we make special purple fag day for them. I like that fags can't procreate. I also enjoy the fact that they often give each other AIDS and die."

At this stage it is no longer about the heated and divisive issues like gay marriage or "Don't Ask Don't Tell." It is now a matter of life and death. Teens being bullied until they commit suicide isn't a political issue; it's a human issue. Religious leaders across this country: Please stand up and put an end to this national tragedy.

 

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I recently saw the movie "It's Kind of a Funny Story." The movie, based on the 2006 novel by Ned Vizzini, deals with teenage depression and suicide in a very real and honest way. I might have reacte...
I recently saw the movie "It's Kind of a Funny Story." The movie, based on the 2006 novel by Ned Vizzini, deals with teenage depression and suicide in a very real and honest way. I might have reacte...
 
 
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jbarelli
I don't belong to an organized political party.
06:19 PM on 11/14/2010
The only problem I have with this article is the unwritten assumption that most church leaders aren't preaching tolerance, compassion and (often) acceptance of the LGBT community.

Examples? We have the Episcopal Church, the Presbyterian Church, the United Church of Christ and the largest Lutheran denomination that accept gay clergy.

Unfortunately, statements of tolerance and acceptance aren't terribly newsworthy. The crackpot "preacher" of a tiny Midwestern "church" that consists of his family and a dozen or so members gets national news time. The leaders of denominations numbering in millions do not. Their statements are too reasonable and too consistent.

"Plane lands safely" doesn't get headlines. "Christian Leaders Preach Love" doesn't either.
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Bob Wood
A.T.C.G...(sigh)
10:19 AM on 11/13/2010
It is difficult to overcome millenia of just wrong teaching by Judeo-Christian religions. Their ancient texts were and are wrong on the subject of sex. The texts were written by men who knew almost nothing of the world in which they lived...and suspected even less. In the 21st century we know a bit more about our world. We begin to suspect that sex is normal in all it's manifestations. Sex is biochemical. Sex is not evil or sinful. It is one of the most powerful of human urges and, as such, it's management should be taught to children and young adults...and that there are LGBT people, always have been and they are not abhorrent. We are all just human beings. Let's treat each other humanely...(sigh)
03:34 AM on 11/13/2010
There is a wonderful documentary called, "Lord, Save Us From Your Followers" Here's the synopsis. I highly recommend.

In the spirit of wondering why we all can't just get along, filmmaker Dan Merchant takes to the streets to ask average folks about religious faith and why it seems to be such a divisive force in America's so-called "culture wars." In addition to man-on-the-street perspectives, the thought-provoking (and refreshingly civil) conversation includes input from activists on both sides of the ideological
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DevonTexas
Eternal Optimism
01:33 PM on 11/11/2010
" It is now a matter of life and death"

Well said. thanks for the article.
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William D Simpson
12:22 PM on 11/10/2010
The disciple of Jesus Christ will preach about the sovereignty of GOD, and about the sinfulness of a fallen humanity in need of the regenerative work of GODs Holy Spirit, in the salvation of humanity.
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LintLass
"When you can balance a tackhammer on your head...
04:36 PM on 11/10/2010
....while children are tormented by his injustice and cruelty past the point of suicide, for being too 'meek,' so it is written....
10:08 PM on 11/09/2010
The bible instructs its followers to stone homosexuals to death. If today an author published a book instructing his readers to do the same, the book would rightly be condemned as hate literature. THE END.
11:42 AM on 11/11/2010
that is true if you are reading bits and pieces of the bible. but as with anybook, if you read parts in the New Testament Jesus repeatedly rebukes the old laws of the Jewish faith and teaches that the only way is love, which is of course why he was killed.

also, when the bible addresses homosexuality, it refers mostly to the pagan practices where men and women would have sex with anyone, male or female, in the temples as a way to worship pagan gods. I would imagine that homosexual *relationships* like those practiced today were rarely, if ever, an issue. Besides, the OT also says that you should kill adulterous couples, talks about slavery, and making blood sacrifices, but again, Jesus rebuked all of that. He prevented the stoning of an adulterous woman, proving to the religious leaders of his time that no one was considered more holy than anyone. period.

If people truly claim to be Christians, they show the love of Jesus, not the fundamental laws that he rebuked throughout his ministry. Not saying all or even most people who claimto be Christians are like that, but that's ultimately how you tell a real Christian from one who's really not...how they show love.
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DevonTexas
Eternal Optimism
01:36 PM on 11/11/2010
agreed. it's sorta like reading an op-ed piece from a 1935 NY Times and basing your life's decisions on it.
03:08 PM on 11/15/2010
It's seems to me that you're quite free in your opinions on the bible as if you'd read it with any seriousness at all. But by your comments, I can tell that you've probably read articles ON the bible ... maybe even cut and paste?

Jesus actually upheld the O.T. at every turn. The adulterous woman they brought to him was not stoned, not because her sin did not deserve death (according to the O.T. is was a capital sin) ... Jesus told them to go ahead and stone her. However, the only requirement for doing that was to be without sin. In other words, they were, as sinners, unable to pass final judgment on her ... only God could do that.

Jesus, who was himself without sin could have stoned her and have been totally justified, but he didn't come to judge the world, but to save it. But that didn't mean that what she was doing was ok in the sight of God. He just chose to have mercy on her. He told her, "Go and SIN no more." Her sin was adultery!

People like yourself confuse mercy with license and approval. He did not give His approval to that lifestyle and sin.
06:19 PM on 11/11/2010
The Bible also instructs parents to stone their children to death if they are disobedient.
Biblical literalists are the problem-- the Bible itself has many beautiful stories and lessons, and yes-- some of the ancient rules in the OT are completely archaic and not considered legitimate by anyone anymore. (this is coming from a future LGBT-supporting minister). So no, it is not THE END.
Not everything is so black and white. Ugh.
04:43 AM on 11/12/2010
A bowl of soup that contains a little bit of poison is still a poisoned bowl of soup. According to you, the practice of stoning children to death is merely "archaic" and is not considered legitimate "anymore". What you call archaic, I call evil. If you're so concerned with what is spiritual and good then why don't you actually excise those portions of your so-called holy book that instruct its followers to commit homicide against innocent men, women, and children? Oh, I forgot. The bible is the unerring word of God. Spare me the sanctimony.
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10:39 AM on 11/09/2010
Well, Rabbi, if there's one insight I take away from all this discussion, is, I think there's something to my sneaking suspicion that there are a lot of guilty consciences out there regarding the bullying in general, ...After all, it's been going on a long time, and developing into this kind of intensity for quite a while, ...And there are very few of us out there who can say we weren't there.

I think these guilty consciences are trying to *justify* what they know is wrong by blaming the victims, denying it happened, denying it matters, trying to spread the blame or trivialize the Hells they claim are 'protecting the family' somehow...

I think certain homophobic leaders in church and politics are capitalizing on this, stoking it, and that can't go anywhere good.

I know where I was, when I was in school. I know that most of my fellow Americans were once being the bullies, complicit with the bullies, or silent to avoid the bullies.

Now many claim it's 'just the order of things' and refuse to speak out against, even *defend* defamations and injustices and abuses that are ongoing and intensifying.

There's an element of denial there that I *do* think is attached to avoiding guilt.

Some say their 'God's truth' gives them the right to take power over others. Maybe it's more they want to take power over others to 'prove' their God is 'true.' Cause otherwise.... Where were they?
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Ioan Lightoller
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07:49 PM on 11/08/2010
What is sad is that a religious leader must point out that there should be tolerance and compassion towards GLBT people--or any group for that matter. Religious hatred is what has cause the bullying and suicides of so many GLBT youth--and adults. If you don't want to believe in gay marriage, then don't involve yourself in one. If you don't approve of abortion, then don't have one! But do not think for a moment that if you believe that your religious belief has a right to inform my life and what I can do with it, that I will not be there, calling you on your bigotry and senseless hatred. The fact that I am married to a woman harms no one. The belief that one religion should call all the shots can harm many.
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sunmocker1970
Mocking the Sun since 1970...
07:13 PM on 11/08/2010
Every time I read an article like the one above I am reminded of a saying by Pastor Martin Niemöller:

They came first for the Communists,
and I didn't speak up because I wasn't a Communist.

Then they came for the trade unionists,
and I didn't speak up because I wasn't a trade unionist.

Then they came for the Jews,
and I didn't speak up because I wasn't a Jew.

Then they came for me
and by that time no one was left to speak up.

If the folks in a particular community don't speak up against bullying, they are not the people they claim to be. I'm so tired of "religious leaders" saying "It's in the (holy text here) so I won't do or say anything against it". Weak kneed cowards. The same cowardice let people get hosed in Alabama, gassed in Auschwitz and burned at the stake. When does it sink in that we are ALL human beings and not one of us should be cast aside because of a d.amn book??!
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Ioan Lightoller
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07:26 PM on 11/08/2010
Fanned and faved. Beautifully-put.
08:17 PM on 11/08/2010
I appreciate Niemoeller's sentiment but it's odd (or sadly telling) that even this saying doesn't include gays, since we know that "they" didn't exactly delay in coming after gay men. A mere oversight?
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brooklyncitizen
Quaerite primum regnum dei
08:39 PM on 11/08/2010
I think it reflects the groups that were most targetted at the time; it simply reflects that context. While gays may have been individually persecuted these other groups were actively sought out.
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RabbiJason
Excited to be a part of the faith community of the
10:08 AM on 11/09/2010
So make an addendum to it. I'm sure there are many persecuted groups that, unfortunately, should be added to Niemoeller's list.
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ms schatzi
07:02 PM on 11/08/2010
It's been many years since I've been inside a protestant church. Can anyone tell me what goes on concerning gays? Are they welcome there, or told to stay away. What''s the deal?
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OtayPanky
You're welcome
07:22 PM on 11/08/2010
It all depends on which church you are talking about.

For example, there are a lot of Episcopal churches that welcome homosexuals, offer them communion, baptize their babies, and so on. They have an outreach ministry called OASIS (google it).

But there are also a lot of Episcopal churches that are not welcoming. They made Gene Robinson's life hell after he was ordained a bishop. You can read his blog on these pages.

There are other welcoming congregations as well. What they have in common is that they reject the primacy of the iron age text we call the Bible. They believe that when science disproves a religious thesis - in this case the thesis that one's gender attraction is a moral issue - the religion must yield.

To someone not addicted to a particular text, or the pronouncements of someone wearing a religous garment, this surely seems self-evident. But to the religiously addicted, not so much.
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ms schatzi
07:41 PM on 11/08/2010
This is kind of how I see it. If the religious consider homosexuality a sin, well then whats the problem? Because we are all sinners, Church is for sinners, that's who should attend. If they were indeed already perfected by the grace of god, they wouldn't need church. I always thought that it was a sin itself to believe that you never sin.
I remember one day listening on the radio listening to 2 preachers talk. One said he received his calling from god, and the other said that he actually studied theology. Each thought he was better than the other. But what struck, me was when they both started claiming that they never sinned. One of them was like " I don't sin, do you ever sin" and the other was like "no I don;t sin either' . I am a baptized and confirmed catholic, and I ALMOST WRECKED MY CAR when I heard that.
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Linda Williams
08:49 PM on 11/08/2010
The United Churches of Christ have open arms. The Methodist church is a little split. Presbys are split. Hope this helps.
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OtayPanky
You're welcome
06:45 PM on 11/08/2010
The fundamental issue isn't "treating homosexuals with tolerance and compassion". That's just a distraction.

The fundamental issue is the meme that characterizes the three Abrahamic religions of Judaism, Christianity, and Islam.

That meme asserts that there is something radically wrong with you if you are a practicing homosexual. Your behavior is described as an abomination, and hateful to a supposedly good and wise God.

As long as adherents of these religions cling to this meme, hatred and intolerance of homosexuals will continue. Individual believers may say (and they do) "love the sinner and hate the sin". They may say, "look to the log in your own eye, not the splinter in someone else's eye". They may say, "I personally am compassionate and not hateful, tolerant and not bigoted".

But all this is to no avail. As long as a large swath of the population defines some minority as "less than", the beatings will continue until moral improves, to borrow a phrase.

This "less than" meme works the same way, no matter who the "other" might be. It worked in the US against blacks for centuries. It worked in Germany against the Jews. It works in Australia against the native Aboriginals. It works in India against the Dalits (untouchables).

The meme itself is EVIL, and as such it inevitably produces "fruit after it's kind".

Some progressive Christians, Muslims and Jews have renounced it, and decided that no iron age text should define their thinking. Others, not so much.
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Ioan Lightoller
Proud Married Gay Pagan Man
07:18 PM on 11/08/2010
Sad to say, I believe you are right. Well I am not Christian and I will not let the Christianists walk all over me. Don't worry, haters--you won't have a hard time beating me up or worse--I also have cerebral palsy. Why am I less than simply because I love and have married a woman? None of you haters can answer that. The answer is I am gay: Good As You. Deal with it.
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OtayPanky
You're welcome
07:39 PM on 11/08/2010
For those of us who recognize how EVIL this homophobic meme actually is, it is important that we frame the conversation so it focuses on the virulence of the meme, and not just the symtomatic evil behaviors we want to eradicate.

Of course, opposing the evil bahaviors, legally and programmatically, is important. But they are just the fruit. If we really want to see the evil behaviors end, we must deal with the problem at the root.

We have done this before in our society. We did it with black people. We did it with Jews. We did it with women. And we have even done it (more or less) with those who have physical challenges like you do.

We've come to recognize that thinking about Jews, Black, women and those with CP are not the other - and are in no sense "less than" anyone else.

That's why this question of homosexuality is really the cutting edge of the discussion of human rights in our day.

For sure, we need to fight the darkness - but we fight best when we shine the brightest light possible upon it.
09:09 PM on 11/08/2010
You're wrong about the "practicing" part in the case of the vast majority of antigay bigots. Their bigotry is directed at what gay people ARE, regardless of whether we act on it or not (and for a whole variety of reasons there are celibate gay people). They no more care about the "practicing" part than junior high kids taunting a classmate for his or her perceived sexual orientation. If you doubt it, tell them that you're gay - the chances are very slim that they'll bother to inquire whether you are sexually active or not. This gets those who use Christianity to justify their bigotry into a real dilemma since, in violation of all traditional Christian theology, it implies that a certain group of people are fundamentally and by their very nature more sinful than others. Hence conservative Protestants desperately clinging to the absurdity that same-sex orientation is a sinful choice and the Roman Catholic church (always trying to be a bit more sophisticated) admitting that it's not a choice but turning to Aristotle's concept of natural law in order to call it "intrinsically disordered" which depends on the idea that sex is only about procreation and which notion has been thoroughly discredited by modern biology.
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OtayPanky
You're welcome
08:56 AM on 11/09/2010
JohnJames: You're wrong about the "practicing" part in the case of the vast majority of antigay bigots.

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I don't disagree with you John. I slipped the word "practicing" in there because of the latest wrinkle in the softer forms of homophobic bigotry. Someone wrote a piece here describing the Catholic version recently.

It goes like this: Yes, we admit that homosexuals aren't that way by choice, but by destiny, whether nature or nurture. So we certainly can't say that being same sex attracted is a sin or a moral failure.

However (wait for it), the acting on one's homsexual attraction is a moral sin. So the solution for homosexuals is (wait for it), to abstain from sexual behavior.

The spectacle of people trying to be good Christians, Jews and Moslems while expressing their homophobic bigotry is actually more repulsive than the sheer unadulterated hatred of those who make no attempt to dress up their homophobic memes in saintly clothing.
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the crustybastard
I could be worse, and have been.
05:33 PM on 11/08/2010
"It is now no more that toleration is spoken of as if it were the indulgence of one class of people that another enjoyed the exercise of their inherent natural rights, for, happily, the Government of the United States, which gives to bigotry no factions, to persecution no assistance, requires only that they who live under its protection should demean themselves as good citizens in giving it on all occasions their effectual support."
- Excerpt from a letter from George Washington to the Hebrew Congregation in Newport, Rhode Island, January 1, 1790
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LintLass
"When you can balance a tackhammer on your head...
05:15 PM on 11/08/2010
While this conversation's been happening:

Students at Midd-West High School cried out against bullying Friday as they mourned the loss of a classmate who in the early morning hours walked about 13 miles from his home to Routes 11-15, where he ran in front of a southbound tractor-trailer after leaving a suicide note at his home. Freshman Brandon Bitner, 14, of Mount Pleasant Mills, ran in front of the truck at 3 a.m. near Liverpool, according to state police at Newport. "It was because of bullying," friend Takara Jo Folk wrote in a letter to The Daily Item. It was not about race, or gender, but they bullied him for his sexual preferences and the way he dressed. Which," she said, "they wrongly accused him of."

http://www.towleroad.com/2010/11/anti-gay-bullying-blamed-in-suicide-of-pennsylvania-teen.html

Notably, there'd actually been an anti-bullying event at the school the week before... Which people ridiculed, and followed up with more bullying.

Justify/deny/trivialize *this* Christians.

This kind of thing's always happened, it just didn't make the *news* before. But I think we can see the pro-bullying-anti-gay stuff from politics and preachers and all manner of adults accusing kids, straight and gay, of being all these horrible things and defending the idea they should be targets.

I don't care if you think gay sex is the worst 'sin' ever. It's *kids.*
09:50 PM on 11/08/2010
No Christian would ever want to "Justify/deny/trivialize" any of this. That is a paraleptice response.
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LintLass
"When you can balance a tackhammer on your head...
10:20 AM on 11/09/2010
Have you been reading this thread? Or any others on this topic? Seen the pro-bullying Christian politicians and preachers saying 'Not bullying you is a threat to our religious freedom?' The pro-bullying answers to the days of silence?

(Actually some of the worst of what we saw here was deleted, but it seems that denying any Christian would do that denies that they *do* Right here.)
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09:00 AM on 11/12/2010
Lot's of Christians DO justify it.

Or maybe....they're not "real" Christians?

I understand, and I agree that those spouting hate are not acting in the true Christian spirit, just as the crazy "Muslims" killing innocents saying they do it in the name of Islam are NOT truly "Muslims." They have committed grave sins by killing innocents, which God condemns in the Qur'an, and therefore have gotten their Muslim card voided.

Maybe now it helps you see a little bit what us every day Muslims must endure thanks to the crackpots acting out under the banner of Islam.
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02:21 PM on 11/08/2010
I must ask:
" Religious Leaders Must Preach Tolerance, Compassion Toward LGBT Community"

Why?
Moses didnt, so why should they? Or are you saying that Moses was a poor religious leader?
02:48 PM on 11/08/2010
Good point. And why is only one side of the debate called to be "tolerant." And what does that even mean? Doesn't seem very tolerant to call me a bigot (in a thread below) because I believe in the inerrant nature of Scripture.
I believe that no one has the right to attack another because of their beliefs, but I have every right to disagree strongly with someone's beliefs, and hold tight to my Faith.
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Ioan Lightoller
Proud Married Gay Pagan Man
04:35 PM on 11/08/2010
Oh and feeling persecuted? You aren't. I talk this way to all bigots: religious, sexual, racist, etc.
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the crustybastard
I could be worse, and have been.
05:15 PM on 11/08/2010
You believe that nobody has any right to confront you for your beliefs, but you have every right to confront others for theirs, this being evidence of OTHER people's intolerance? Wow. Awesome!

You should know that bigot is probably derived from the German "bei" + "gott," or "by God." it is precisely your hypocrisy and insistence on persistently clinging to your prejudiced religious opinions that defines your bigotry.

Seriously, that's the literal definition of the word.
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Ioan Lightoller
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02:50 PM on 11/08/2010
I certainly am.
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06:28 PM on 11/08/2010
As am I...

Which is why I think it fun to point out the hypocrisy of a Rabbi who must suffer from much Cognitive dissonance.
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Bill J4321
01:31 PM on 11/08/2010
I wonder how heterosexuals will justify their treatment of God's gay children on 'judgment day?'

When God asks each and every one of them why they abused, degraded, dehumanized and brutalized innocent, law-abiding citizens, in HIS name no less, what will they answer?

That they did those things in HIS name to honor him?
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02:24 PM on 11/08/2010
That they were doing what he told them to do in his revelations.

What makes you assume that there is a 'god' and a 'judgement day', and he likes homosexuals? If the bible is our guide to understanding this god, it would not be the case.
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the crustybastard
I could be worse, and have been.
05:24 PM on 11/08/2010
How can you be sure they're God's revelations?
03:19 PM on 11/08/2010
Leviticus 20:13 - "If a man lies with a man as one lies with a woman, both of them have done what is detestable. They must be put to death; their blood will be on their own heads."

This is but one interpretation of the text. There are hundreds. Do with it what you will.
04:00 PM on 11/08/2010
I'd say, thank God for the New Covenant. But just because the punishments have changed, sin is still sin, and an offense to Him.
All sin.
Especially my own.
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onionboy
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04:00 PM on 11/08/2010
God didn't write that. Men did...clearly, homophobic men.