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Polite Laughter on the Mall

Posted: 10/31/10 06:26 PM ET

Hundreds of thousands came. Theresa Floyd, a 19 year old student and poet, flew from California to try to make the world "marginally better". Wassim Shazad, a 36 year old brick shithouse of a former-Marine drove four hours from North Carolina, to take aim at racial stereotypes of Muslims in America. For nearly everyone I spoke to, this was their first rally.

As rallies go, it was a little unrepresentative. It began, for instance, exactly on time, and just before the cameras went live, a little overture played over the sound system: Robbie Williams' Let Me Entertain You. Philadelphia funk ensemble The Roots kicked off for half an hour, followed by Adam Savage and Jamie Hyneman, TV's Mythbusters, who performed a series of experiments on the crowd.

People were encouraged to stomp together to create a miniature earthquake (it worked, a little), or to propagate a crowd wave to the back of the assembled masses which took 54 seconds to travel the length of the Mall outside Congress. One of the oddest experiments, and I fear we'll have to watch the Discovery channel to find out the myth they were busting, involved getting everyone to make a range of sounds simultaneously, with noises ranging from 'laughing like a mad scientist' to cheek-popping, to polite laughter.

And then Jon Stewart and Stephen Colbert took to the stage for a two hour show with a list of guests escalating from Ozzie Osbourne to R2D2. The proceedings ended with a serious bit, though, when Jon Stewart took a couple of swipes at the media. "We live in hard times, not end times. We can have animus and not be enemies. But unfortunately one of our main tools in delineating the two broke. The country's 24 hour political pundit perpetual panic conflictinator did not cause our problems but its existence makes solving them that much harder."

There was a 'yes we can' moment too. Americans, Stewart pointed out to one of the loudest cheers of the afternoon, "work together to get things done every damn day". He used an unusual metaphor to explain what that cooperation looked like. The view on the jumbotron screens switched from the Mall to an overhead view of cars funneling from eight lanes to two. Although the people in their cars might be of different religions, political orientations, and intensities with which they love Oprah, Americans can somehow get along, letting each other in, and narrowing down in a civil, moderate and reasonable way. Yes, We Can.

Trouble is, as any game theorist will tell you, there's not much about road-traffic cooperation that rises to the level of reasonableness. Once folk have agreed on some foundational things like where they're going and what side of the road to drive on, the rest is just basic courtesy. It's a stretch to call it 'reasonable'.

Reasonableness is, however, genuinely under threat. The Tea Party understands the US Constitution as a divine document. In so doing, they pine for a pre-Enlightenment politics where God -- not reason -- is the ultimate arbiter of political life. To put it in Stewart's terms, they're arguing about which direction to drive and whether it's bad to run over pedestrians. That's a threat to the possibility of cooperation.

It took a lot of political work to make a world that could cradle the moderation everyone came to Washington to celebrate yesterday, yet there was palpable distaste for taking a political stand. In fact, the undercurrent wasn't one of defending the politics of reasonableness so much as of mourning its impotence. For instance: Jon Stewart invited Kid Rock to sing "an amazing" song that was "so apropos to this situation". The song was 'Care' and the lyrics went: "'Cause I can't stop the war/ Shed the homeless/ Feed the poor... /the least I can do/ Is care." So although Americans get things done every damn day, it's the small stuff. The bigger problems are just too, well, big.

But perhaps I'm asking too much. Perhaps the politics can and should come some other time, and not from Comedy Central. Two people who thought so were friends from Washington DC who held signs saying "Down with this sort of thing!" and "Careful now!", a reference from a British TV comedy called Father Ted that confused a few rally-goers. They didn't want their employers knowing they were at the rally, so let's call them Bill and Kylie.

"Some people were disappointed that Stewart didn't ask people to vote or that there wasn't more politics. But Jon Stewart and Stephen Colbert recognize that they're entertainers," said Bill. "And that's pretty cool." This wasn't Bill and Kylie's first rally -- they've been to several this year, most recently the One Nation Working Together rally organized by the Democrats and large unions at the beginning of the month. And neither Bill nor Kylie are shy of politics. "I'm a socialist", said Bill. "I'm getting there," said Kylie.

I suspect that it's through Bill and Kylie's brand of political understanding, rather than Kid Rock's, that change will happen. Yes, the punditocracy is bad, but pointing out its failure is hardly going to change it. Yes, civility is important, but that's not the same as political engagement. Pining for 'sanity' during the rise of the Tea Party is like talking about who leaves the seat up when the house is on fire. What Comedy Central offered on the mall was laughter in the dark, but it was impotently polite laughter. Perhaps that's what the Mythbusters wanted to understand.

 
 
 
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03:00 AM on 11/03/2010
It was a great Rally. I was there, near 7th street and the guy who climbed up the streetlight for a better view. It was my first Rally, and it was a wonderful event, and a great way to recover from Midterms. I couldn't see much at all, but I could hear Stephen and the louder singers. The crowd was very polite, and they let me through even though they could barely move.

The signs and costumes were hilarious. The crazier signs were usually parodies of un-informed protestors. When I arrived home in Georgia, I got to catch up on Formidable Opponent, and Stephen's puppet, and Jon's amazing, heartfelt closing speech. Overall, it was an awesome experience, to meet the other fans, realize that I'm not the only one who is not extremely right or left, and get some awesome laughs from two amazingly talented comedians.
06:47 PM on 11/02/2010
I agree that the rally was about civility and anti-fearmongering rather than reason or problem-solving. I think that Stewart and Colbert saw this as their opportunity to reach the largest audience they will ever have the chance to reach, and tailored their rhetoric to that audience. In other words, they probably couldn't sell the public goods game to the Tea Partiers watching the rally on TV, but they could at least sell civility to them (or some of them). Personally, I quoted Stewart on my Facebook page and got positive feedback from a Tea Party supporter. Stewart appealed to their "better angels," and it does take exhaustive effort to hate, and this cultural influence saying, "its okay, you can let down your guard, you don't have to be cynical to the point of extremism, you are welcome into our movement of civility, we won't tread on you"...that can be powerful to someone who has been running themselves ragged on anger for two years.
06:28 PM on 11/02/2010
MickTheBiologist, game thoery is not about games. It's about complex interactions between individuals. If you've ever seen the movie "A Beatiful Mind," when the fictionalized John Nash has his epiphany and says "Adam Smith was wrong," (refering to en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adam_smith) he's talking about game theory. It has applications in economics (and therefore politics), resource planning (particularly spectrum allocation), warfare, and human behavior in the context of evolution (compared to so-called "evolutionary psychology", game theory can support a wider range of behavior, including altruism), among others.
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08:31 AM on 11/02/2010
Thank God for the "artist" who give meaning to our realities....
06:29 AM on 11/02/2010
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12:40 AM on 11/02/2010
200k people showed up on the Mall to feel good about themselves... for showing up on the Mall.

No harm done, but like a nice day at the beach this will soon be forgotten.
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09:26 PM on 11/01/2010
I agree with the 10 million comments here: Raj kinda missed the point. And why is "reasonable" antithetical to "courteous?" Seems like they'd be great in rhetorical bed together. The only complaint I had about the Rally was that it really wasn't very funny. At least not the razor-sharp Octo-blade I'm used to seeing on the nightly shows. And yes, the non-offensiveness and patriotic jumpsuits did remind me a little bit of a Sea World show.
But "be nice" is always a useful message.
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05:59 PM on 11/01/2010
"Trouble is, as any game theorist will tell you, there's not much about road-traffic cooperation that rises to the level of reasonableness. Once folk have agreed on some foundational things like where they're going and what side of the road to drive on, the rest is just basic courtesy. It's a stretch to call it 'reasonable'."

i understand the author of this bit is younger than many of us who watch colbert and stewart. hence, the game theorist allusion.

however, mr. patel, let me put something back at you.

'however, as any road traffic expert will tell you, there's not much game theory that rises to the level of road traffic reality.'

we are not playing games here. mortgage foreclosure, homelessness, joblessness, neo-nazi-ism, hegemony, war-mongering, continuous racism, sexism, virtual plutocracy, environmental devastation, elemental lying, cheating, stealing, raping, murdering and torturing,

are not games. nor theories. nor conspiracies.

it is not a shame comedians have to tell us this. it is a shame you still did not listen.

perhaps you are too young to 'pine' for much of anything. civility does not mean passivity. warfare is serious business, unlike computer games, where drones are first encountered, and flown.

to be uncivil enough to understand the consequences of true war, not video war, once practiced, one should engage in the exploration of civility, if for no other reason than to juxtapose the two.

there are consequences beyond the electric bill.
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10:36 PM on 11/02/2010
mick,

Your pounding on the wrong guy, turning a metaphor into something it was never intended to be. Read a couple of his perceptive and compassionate books and discover that he feels much the same way you do, before picking a metaphor and blasting. In fact, read this article and learn how to hang your head.
05:56 PM on 11/01/2010
I can see how Raj Patel's tongue in cheek commentary on the rally would be hard to swallow for those who attended and had a great time, or for those who couldn't attend but were excited nonetheless. However, I think Patel's critique of not only the rally but of our US society in general is important, and I respect it. Patel's piece recognized the rally for what is was, entertainment, and I think he is making a bigger comment: the change our country needs, our world needs, humanity needs is not going to come from a friendly rally, from observational humor with a political spin and "polite laughter." I appreciate such a firm stance in a time when everyone seems to be okay with not taking a stand because they feel their voice or their effort will not make a difference. It will, in fact, make a difference, and what we need is the energy and effort put into organizing and attending Saturday's event to go toward something that is actually going to make the social change this world needs. I don't know that Raj could have been clearer with his point, and I think most people who commented on this piece sadly missed it.
04:41 PM on 11/01/2010
Raj,

Civility, if civilization is to work, is reasonable. The zipping up of traffic at the tunnel is cooperation which too is reasonable. You apparently missed the point of the rally. The reason (if you will) most people attended the rally to affirm a commitment to reason over passion, and they were passionate in their support of reason. I guess you missed that too.

Deadlines are a pain, Raf, I know that, but they are no excuse for the sort of fractured logic, quoting out of context, and cheap shots you posted.

I am a former Marine, old enough to know better than to stand in one place for four hours to barely hear a performance I would not have paid to see. I am a fiscal conservative and in my youth espoused Barry Goldwaterisms, but I've had a gutful of ranting and all or nothing politics. So I stood for four hours in a herd of like-minded others to reaffirm that good manners count and reason trumps passion almost every time.

Oh, yeah, I had fun too.
04:07 PM on 11/01/2010
Most of the rally was great. There were an awful lot of 30 and 40 somethings there. I am I my fifties and felt a little uncomfortable.And sadly there were a few nasty signs like "I masturbate to Christine O'Donnell". That really was nasty and mean and misogynistic. It had no place at the rally.Why are there so many haters? Aside from that it was fun.
03:41 PM on 11/01/2010
Right now, politicians think pandering to the extremes is the way to get elected. So, one point of the rally was to demonstrate that reasonable people also vote. After all, if they care enough to make it to DC they can make it to the voting booth. In other words, there are votes to be had by doing something other than giving us oversimplified cr*p.
03:20 PM on 11/01/2010
With utmost respect, Mr. Patel, I believe you assessment of the rally to be innacurate. It seems to me you're judging the success of the rally based on how well it provided for your personal political agenda. Did it serve to highlight the GOP, or more specifically the Tea Party, as insane, fear mongering, bible tossing, heartland idiots out to drag this country back to the Middle Ages? No, And if that had been remotely its point, I would agree with you, sir, that it failed utterly. For those of us who attended to support a belief, it was superb. The fact that you find it failed to lambast the conservative right, I find reassuring.

I came to the rally as a conservative and republican disillusioned with my own party. I came to show some of us have Not lost the meaning of the word "conservative" and replaced it with "intollerant". I disagree with many of Mr. Stewart's political beliefs, but I respect him as a tolerant, thoughtful adversary on those issues we Do disagree on. And that, Mr. Patel, was the point.

We were neither there as servants of right wing intollerant fundamentalism, nor as a mouthpiece for the far left's assault on whatever is politically incorrect today. We came together as one to remind people how to respect one another.

If there is one thing you should have walked away with it is - would you talk to someone that way
if your mother was listening? Ponder that.
03:27 PM on 11/01/2010
Fanned and Faved!
04:05 PM on 11/01/2010
mdavis,
Your comment is by far the most insightful comment I have read (on many sites) about what this rally meant and was. I concur wholeheartedly with your thoughts.

I am a "conservative" on most fiscal issues and "liberal" on most social issues, which leads me to disagree with both parties. Your reasoning on tolerence and discussion is what resonated with me on your comments. I think Jon Stewart said a couple of weeks ago on his show and was echoed at the rally, " We may be opponents but not enemies."

The most illuminating political discussions I have have been with a friend of mine who is diametrically opposed to me on SOME issues. On the ones we couldn't agree on, we would talk and talk some more. I never thought that he was destroying a nation and he didn't think the same of me.

I wish I could have gone to the rally but I watched the whole thing. The talking heads on Fox/Msnbc et al. are missing the point of the rally.
02:51 PM on 11/01/2010
I'm afraid Mr. Patel missed a very important point to the rally on the 30th in DC. Like minded people being able to get together in a wad and share some tolerance energy is just as important as anything else that could have come out of the rally. I think the numbers speak for themselves in terms of our representative concerns about the country and its distorted views - distortions by people who spout untruthiness that others believe from their fear-based fight or flight perches. This is a time of trauma for our entire country and the fallout will be significant. In trauma, one can only fight or flee - which one are you? The rally was about another option - stop and think and then act. What a concept! Work together to solve COMMON problems? What a concept! Sigh.
03:31 PM on 11/01/2010
"untruthiness"

"Truthiness" is prob the word you're looking for, believe it or not. Truthiness is *not* truthfulness. It's something that *feels* true regardless of (or in spite of) the actual facts. And that's what's going on with the demagogues and distorters.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Truthiness
02:27 PM on 11/01/2010
In Europe where protest means demonstrating about the real issue why the mass is disappointed. I am glad that such rally took place in U.S and it is good to take good criticism from Mr. Patel as well.