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Raymond J. Learsy

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Are Our Leaders Hearing ExxonMobil CEO Tillerson?

Posted: 05/17/11 06:59 AM ET

Amidst the current kerfuffle of Republicans and Democrats blaming each other for ever higher gas prices, focusing on issues ranging from oil company tax breaks to impediments on new drilling, the most significant item of information extant is barely focused upon.

Last week in Congressional hearings none other than the Darth Vader of all things oil, Rex Tillerson, CEO of ExxonMobil bravely informed his Congressional interlocutors that the price of oil should be no higher than $60 to $70 a barrel. He attributed the difference from the plus $100/bbl current at the time of his pronouncement, to speculation and trading on the commodity exchanges. It is a position that this corner has promulgated for years. Well and good. But coming from Tillerson, that is truly from the horse's mouth.

In addition, there was another core nugget of information coming forth at the hearing. That the average cost of producing a barrel of oil is circa $11/bbl. Thereby, and for once giving oiligopoly credence to the enormous profits at hand in the oil sector. It is as though General Motor's Chevrolet Volt was being built at a cost of $25,000 and selling for well over $200,000, and with much less fuss and bother.

And yet, and yet, this news barely reached the headlines of the business press and the forever endless parade of talking heads on our television screens.

And all this within the recent flood of attention to manipulated pricing with the formation of the Oil and Gas Pricing Fraud Panel under Attorney General -- "there may well be lawful reasons for increases in gas price given supply and demand" -- Eric Holder. This after endless months/years of hearings and blather coming forth from the forever ineffectual CFTC.

And there, in recent weeks, was President Obama himself taking up the cudgel of speculation -- blaming it for rising oil prices in a recent address to a community college.

Well, here for once we have smoking gun evidence of one piece of the high oil/gas price puzzle -- the impact of speculation. There are many others such as OPEC manipulation, crude oil hoarding by bank holding companies and oil traders, reckless judicial interpretation of sovereign immunity, thereby precluding antitrust legal proceedings in this country against the national oil companies of OPEC nations. The list goes on. But with this piece of evidence in hand will the government act forcefully, or will oil interests once again prevail!?

 
 
 
 
 
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Alicia Westberry
college student & Wordpress blog/ website owner
04:44 PM on 05/21/2011
Rex Tillerson, an oilman, is actually being honest? What a novel concept!! It's too bad that we can't do anything about it. Even moving to alternative energy would require a huge shift in Americans' way of thinking.
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wa0cal
wa0cal
01:26 PM on 05/20/2011
This is a damn shame that this is happening here in this country when we could be independant of foreign oil and could tell Opec to go to hell. We have plenty of oil right here in this country if they would just drill for it.
01:38 PM on 05/19/2011
The Federal and Local Government TAKES 40+ cents PER DOLLAR of GAS from every single supplier in our country, not just Exxon. Do the Math on how much the Government STEALS for producing NOTHING.
Exxon EARNS 7 cents PER DOLLAR on THEIR PRODUCT, THEY MADE, REAL PEOPLE like YOU and ME, not some GHOSTLY CEO behind a curtain.

Dems have turned so soft, too bad.
12:33 PM on 05/19/2011
Thev republicans need the people's blood spent on gasoline in order to get the Wall Street speculators campaign contributions. Dodd Franks must be enforced now. To do less is to make the people pay ransom to the ultra- rich so the republicans can continue to reduce our economic conditions in the short term on the way to turning the middle class into needy poor servants in the factories of the future.
11:10 PM on 05/18/2011
Uh, the Saudi petroleum minister said he felt the "fair price" for oil was $80-100 a barrel. Whom should I believe? The people who pump the oil from beneath their sands, or the people who transport and sell it? The question answers itself.
08:20 PM on 05/17/2011
Bravo! Thank you for this. I've never understood this process and I haven't had it explained this well before.

It's always interesting to me how little we know about our financial markets, what they do, and how that translates into what comes out of our pocket. We pay an enormous price for this ignorance. When oil went to $140.00 during the time of the financial crisis from the low $70's a year earlier, I was confounded beyond belief. Demand falls off a cliff, no change in supply or costs attributed to supply, and the price doubles??

I had my intuition and watched closely to see financial returns of Goldman and the other too big to fail banks some months later. Shocking: losses tied to loans were significantly pared from their "success" in the commodity market - ie oil trading/speculation. No one contected the dots. TARP, unfortunately, wasn't the only mechanism used to fleece Americans into correcting the gambling addictions of the few on Wall Street.

I accept it now - Republicans and Wall Street are just too smart and we're too dumb. Obama: Win re-election...and please turn this one sided, one-hand-tied-behind-your-back beat down of average Americans around...or just release our right arm through regulation.

In the meantime, let the kids from Enron out of jail. Their little kerfuffle is a pimple on the a$$ of what Goldman and too big to fail banks have done without one conviction. I love this country!
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weslenforever
64 yr old educated grandma
06:34 PM on 05/17/2011
Just one small point for the "Drill Baby Drill, Spill Baby Spill, Lets have a little corexit sauce on those fish sticks Baby" crowd. If they opened up every inch of the Gulf of Mexico, every inch of coastline on the east and the west to 100 miles out, it would not change gas prices here. "WHY?", you ask. Because every drop of oil pumped out of U.S. soil is sold to other countries and we, then, import the oil we use from them at a higher cost and for greater profit for the multinational oil corporations who have bought out all the smaller oil companies that used to provide competition and the few giants that are left work with each other to prevent competition with each other.
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Articulator
09:48 PM on 05/17/2011
Well stated. "Drill Baby Drill" is for those that are so easily hoodwinked by emotion. That would be mostly the crowd that listens to the right wing propaganda machine in the likes of Rush and the clowns at Faux.
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weathergirl
loved politics as a little girl!
10:40 PM on 05/17/2011
Well said!!!!
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weslenforever
64 yr old educated grandma
06:24 PM on 05/17/2011
Congress members do not hear anything they don't want to hear. The last time prices went this high I watched a hearing in congress where every one of the CEOs stated that supply and demand had nothing to do with the price of oil or the price of gas at the pump. They all said, same as they are stating this time, supply is up and demand is down.
It's speculators who are causing the spikes and, I believe, the reason the price of oil recently went down, a little, was because of the call for an investigation!
Still, regardless of the reason, we taxpayers are being gouged all along the way and subsidies and tax breaks should stop and be returned going back to at least 2000!
05:14 PM on 05/17/2011
"But with this piece of evidence in hand will the government act forcefully, or will oil interests once again prevail!?"

Do you even have to ask?
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04:32 PM on 05/17/2011
The price of gasoline would drop below $1/gal forever if we scrapped the automobile as the transportation paradigm for the US.

Make a mass transit system so good that you don't need to buy a car - and gasoline prices would be the least of it. No more car payments, insurance or repair bills.

A third of all Americans live in cities of 50,000 or more - build decent mass transit in those cities and watch the oil industry collapse.
05:23 PM on 05/17/2011
You would have armed revolution before you would get a successful transition.
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07:15 PM on 05/17/2011
More like a wimper than a bang.

The new jobs being created don't come with benefits or a big enough paycheck to afford a new car. Mass transit will win by default.

Met a person yesterday on the train - wrecked her car and could not afford a new one - so she has a bicycle and rides the train now. Rents a car when she takes a trip.

It cost an average of $8K per year to own a car - it is the easiest big expense to live without - all we need is mass transit.
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silverwolf13
I know that I do not know.
05:05 PM on 05/18/2011
Faved, already a fan. Note that when the price of regular hits $4, an amazing thing happens in this nation of auto addicts. People get out of their cars and hop on the train, bus, or even a bike. Of course, the transit system is not adequate to keep them, so they go back to their cars when the price of gas drops. Improve the transit system and raise the gas tax, and people will ride it.

Also, people will save money by riding transit. Most people think the cost of driving is only gas, parking, and tolls, but this is a gross underestimate. Look at what the IRS allows for business driving--50 cents a mile this year PLUS not only parking and tolls but also depreciation on your car. Even at $3 per gallon, you would have to be getting only 6 mpg for gas to cost you 50 cents a mile.
09:16 PM on 06/11/2011
Actually, 50 cents a mile is in lieu of gas, oil changes, repairs, and depreciation (though you are correct that you can take parking and tolls separately).
maruski
Liberal Lutheran; lean left, save America!
03:54 PM on 05/17/2011
I believe that a small tax on trading generally could significantly reduce our budget issues. Example: Some firms trade billions of dollars worth of shares a microsecond ahead of their customers trades at a half penny profit, resulting in billions of dollars. If every trade had a small tax--say a half a percent, then those trades would generate a lot of revenue.

153 billion dollars of trades take place a day. multiply that by 260 trading days and you get 39,780,000,000,000 (thirty nine trillion seven hundred eighty billion) Half of one percent of that would be roughly 200,000,000,000 (two hundred billion)....

Our public debt is about 14 trillion. We could pay it off over decades this way alone...without changing anything else at all.

The problem is that the financial geniuses of our times like the casino environment of the current situation with the ridiculous 15% capital gains tax. People can sit on their keisters every day trading stocks as they move up and down for small profits on each movement, never paying taxes that in any way reflect the fact that this very activity takes money from average consumers (their 401K pays the extra half penny when it buys, average American's buying stock for its value pay higher prices etc etc)
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Si1ver1ock
the bread of wickedness, the wine of violence
07:15 PM on 05/17/2011
Yep.
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weathergirl
loved politics as a little girl!
10:43 PM on 05/17/2011
Interesting ideas! Perhaps that would work!! Don't see Wall Street loving it though! Look how they fussed over being re-regulated!
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Boodieugwumba
Crusader
03:03 PM on 05/17/2011
All great points, both for and against, made here but who is listening? Share this knowledge where it matters - with fellow citizens on http://newsparticipation.com/ Citizen journalism is what we need to fight the ignorance that is at the root of all we're passing through. When you share your knowledge, you're helping educate and fight this ignorance and we need to do that if we're to stand any chance against this force we're fighting. Information revolution is what we need, let's start it.
02:58 PM on 05/17/2011
For those of you railing against oil companies because of excessive profits; Exxon's $10 billion first quarter profit equals 8.99% profit margin. That is pretty typical for the industry but quite a bit lower than Microsoft's 25% (appx) profit.
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chris10280
03:12 PM on 05/17/2011
Sounds as though Microsoft runs a tighter ship - on significantly less revenue.
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Boodieugwumba
Crusader
03:12 PM on 05/17/2011
Think a little harder and you might see why your comparison makes no sense. For example, if you thought about it you might realize that Microsoft's products are not as necessary as Exxon's to the running of our society.
03:34 PM on 05/17/2011
Business is business and Exxon does not put billions of dollars of capital at risk for the good of society. Sorry...
02:04 PM on 05/17/2011
I don't have the reference handy, but someone once calculated that (I believe it was) a 2% tax on all speculative transactions would enable us to entirely eliminate the income tax.

Let those who are crippling the economy at least pay for the privilege of doing so.
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Si1ver1ock
the bread of wickedness, the wine of violence
07:17 PM on 05/17/2011
The more people talk about it, the closer it gets to reality.
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montemalone
oenophile, aquarist, francophone, radical moderate
02:00 PM on 05/17/2011
It's not just oil.
The con played on us that Wall St. provides a market and makes capital available to business is just that.
What societal good is provided by a few guys shuffling electrons in order to profit in the billions at the expense of the rest of the population?
Remember, Wall St. instigated the offshoring of jobs and manufacturing to increase "shareholder value".
A few extremely rich people have us by the jewels, they're gonna keep squeezing until we do something about it.
01:07 PM on 05/19/2011
but if a local store jacks up the price of batteries, h20 etc. during an emergency (supply and demand-right?) ---they go to jail for making a few bucks!!