Could anyone forget the beautiful music of Evita, or even more compelling the black and white photos of Eva Peron, her cheeks becoming more and more hollowed as cervix cancer siphoned away her legendary vitality, causing her death at age 33? What is lesser known is that Juan Peron's first wife (Aurelia) died of the same disease-- at age 28. Knowing the likely cause reveals this to be less than tragically coincidental. President Peron was twice widowed before widespread Pap smear screening was promoted, and certainly long before the nature of the virus responsible: HPV (Human Papilloma Virus) was understood.
I recall the haunting youth of the cervix cancer patients I cared for on my oncology rotations as a resident. Unlike the more common older cancer patients, these women were my contemporaries, some even younger than I at the time. In the field of gynecology we were aware of the connection of cervix cancer and precancers to HPV, but it was not yet part of conventional wisdom. Despite the lack of HPV awareness in the late 80's, the fear of HIV and herpes was helping promote safe sex and routine gynecologic screening.
Unfortunately most women (and men) are not aware that condoms do not offer complete protection from HPV, in fact penetration of any orifice is not required for infection. Simple genital skin-to-skin contact can accomplish transmission. Contrary to popular assumption, most women who contact anal HPV have not had anal penetration. The skin of the scrotum need only come into contact with the anus for transmission of the virus (contact that commonly occurs with vaginal intercourse). It is the ease of transmission that contributes significantly to the fact that an estimated 6 million persons are affected by genital HPV every year. It is the most common sexually transmitted disease in our country. While it is true that the great majority of those affected will not require treatment (most mild forms of the virus will be eliminated by the host's immune system), the American Cancer Society (ACS) estimates 11,270 new diagnoses of cervix cancer in the US in 2009. Anal cancer (now felt to also be caused in large part by genital HPV) is growing at a rapid pace, and the ACS estimates approximately 3,200 cases of anal cancer will occur in women this year. There is good evidence that the HPV vaccine may not only offer protection for cervix, vaginal, vulvar and anal cancer, but also some head and neck and oral cancers as well. The vaccine also protects against genital warts, which affect approximately 500,000 people per year in the US.
While some of my eligible patients have declined the HPV vaccine, feeling that it isn't necessary for them, I am reminded that one of my dear patients, a rape victim, lost her uterus at a very young age due to cervix cancer contracted from sexual assault. Monogamy is a safe and wise practice; however, sexual assault victims remind us we are not always in complete control of our sexual exposure.
The protection of the vaccine is not perfect; there are at least 13 types that are known to be associated with genital cancer or precancer, and the vaccine covers 4 types. Two of the covered types are felt to cause the majority of aggressive cancers, and the other two prevent most genital warts. It is pretty remarkable for a vaccine to give protection for 4 different subtypes of a virus, and literally historic to offer protection against cancer. One drawback is that it takes almost a full year after the first injection (in a series of three) for the protection to completely establish. Many patients are inclined to assume protection from the initial shot, only to get a call from the doctor about an abnormal pap before immunity has set up.
In my practice, since it became available, we have administered thousands of Gardasil
injections--with no serious side effects. Though all vaccines have inherent risks, the Vaccine Adverse Event Reporting System (VAERS)---reports only very rare serious complications. The vaccine is somewhat expensive; it requires time and may not offer lifetime immunity (a booster may be needed in the future), but it will save lives, save embarrassment, save marriages, reduce painful and expensive tests and treatments...and had my generation had it, it might have saved Farrah.
Facts about Gardasil®, the HPV vaccine:
• The vaccine is administered by intramuscular injection, and the recommended schedule is a 3-dose series with the second and third doses administered 2 and 6 months after the first dose.
• The recommended age for vaccination of females is 11-12 years. Vaccines can be administered to those as young as age 9 years.
• While it is only approved for women ages 9-26, many individuals have requested and been given the vaccine who are older than 26. It is estimated that several thousand men have requested and received the vaccine.
Two nights ago my daughter and I drove away from the high school she will be attending this fall after she learned she did not make the volleyball team. She was trying to fight back her tears when I bit my tongue as the cliché slipped out, "things could be worse." I fought back my own tears of frustration knowing I can't fight her battles for her, but I can make sure she gets her third Gardasil shot-- due in 2 more months.
It's up to each one of us to spread the word about vaccine damage. I know I've influenced some young couples where I work. They went ahead with vaccinations anyway, but at least they questioned the doctor. It's a start.
I'll tell Jeff of your well wishes at his new job in case he doesn't look in for a while.
His girls, ages 11, 13 & 15 are up to date on vaccinations & I don't think he's too worried for his own on that as I am about my Granddaughters but it's the Gardasil he's worried about.
Him & his wife are getting a divorce & he's really worried she'll follow through on getting their girls the shots behind his back.
See, Jeff has recently wakened to some truths that his wife won't accept. Like his voting for Obama which was their first really big fall out.
Then the nagging she got from him to look into any truth behind vaccinations he'd been hearing about for years from family friends.
He's never read anything on the matter & only at my nagging did he agree to be introduced to HuffPo.
He read every post at this latest on Gardasil.
If his girls get the shots against his wish & anything happens, geeeez, I don't know what to say, except I guess in my heart, I'd hold some here responsible for backing such a young drug that hasn't been around long enough to know the true outcome of injury & death that may be up the road. The risk is too big to ask use of our children as guinea pigs as they truly have been, in many cases, for far
In the case of Gardasil, I read studies showing it provides protection for some strains, but not all, pap smears remain necessary, and it is unknown whether the vaccine eliminates the virus, or merely aids the immune system to suppresses it.
I read the CDC Vaccine Adverse Event Reporting System (VAERS) correlation data. It lacks a crucial bit of information to make informed decisions: the number of vaccines administered (not distributed) during the period in question. From conversations with friends in the field of public health, I have learned the following:
The CDC believes the number of vaccines actually administered is greatly underreported, due to sloppy recordkeeping. Therefore, they choose not to report this number, because it may be very low. The CDC also knows that the number of adverse events reported is also greatly underreported, for a variety of reasons. However, they have chosen to report this low number.
Now for common sense. The CDC is hiding the ball to encourage vaccination. Red flag.
At best, vaccines prime the immune system for future invasions. Vaccines or not, ultimately, the only defense against infections is a robust immune system. I have written several books on this subject, based on nature and common sense.
I support everyone's right to choose and express their own approach to health. All have risks.
Roy Mankovitz, Director
http://www.MontecitoWellness.com
I'd like to thank you Roy. Your input's always helpful & appreciated.
This was my son's friend's screename & picture of George & I really liked it so he gave it to me.
To keep down confusion, instead of us both using it, he'll most likely get a new one when he gets to it.
I had to retire my crying eagle & screename because my son recognizesd it too easy.
He always catches me at these debates & automatically thinks I'm back working in activism as I used to & gets mad at me.
I get in trouble because my family worries about my health & insists I stay retired.
sirenty wrote;
"See the link i posted, and read it. There have been NO DEATHS due to the gardasil vaccine."
I replied;
Why are you in denial? You've seen the many links. Anyone can do a search & see the truth for themselves to the death & injury so why do you cling to these lies?
Many of those links that can be found in a search have been posted in this forum for anyone who wants to take a look.
How anyone can say different as a few here have is beyond reason & I just don't get where they can possibly be coming from in true reality. Common sense dictates this vaccine "has not" been around long enough to be properly tested to know what else lays ahead for the unsuspecting guinia pigs that received the shots.
And that's exactly what our children are is guinia pigs no matter how anyone tries to spin it.
"CDC: Gardasil vaccination safe in spite of deaths"
http://www.collegian.psu.edu/archive/2008/09/09/cdc_gardasil_vaccination_safe.aspx
http://www.whale.to/vaccine/gardasil_death1.html
That's your choice, I pray that your girls never get cancerous HPV.
Here's another very informative link from there;
http://www.whale.to/vaccines/gardasil_h.html
Be sure to hear the CNN newscaster state in the last video that there "have been deaths" from Gardasil, when you go there mnmommy, since you consistently & falsely say there's not been one "single" death from Gardasil.
Listen to the other newscaster in that same video talk about the link between vaccinations & autism possibly being the same type connection with the death & injury involved with Gardasil.
"Large scale public test" was a phrase in this CNN video that caught my ear & confirms our children are being used as guinea pigs.
With mnmommy's working to discredit the Whale site out of the way, how about let's address the content of that post which was about sirenity's denial of any deaths due to Gardasil.
Since you both are in denial, how about you both show us proof Gardasil was not responsible for those deaths recorded & not avoid the subject like usual?
I mention all this because the vaccine debate rages on mainly because there is so much misinformation disseminated. Take the time to talk to a medical provider with a point of view that is different than yours. Why will my daughter get the HPV vaccine? Because I understand and am comfortable with the safety profile of the vaccine and it is well studied, HPV is emotionally and physically devastating, HPV is extremely common (it only takes one partner to be exposed), and I love my little girl and will help her avoid diseases and CANCER that are preventable. I had my children vaccinated for diseases that we don't expect to really even see (e.g. Hep B) - why would I not vaccinate for a virus that is being diagnosed every day?
The proof is in the"FACT" that it hasn't been around long enough to have been studied & tested. You need to research the matter properly this time for the sake of your daughter if you have one.
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I think they are in hiding since the new study proving thimerosal causes autism came out.
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What study is that Duggie? Why isn't HuffPo reporting it?
Do share. I'd think news like this would be everywhere!!! Why isn't it?
"Mitochondrial dysfunction, impaired oxidative-reduction activity, degeneration, and death in human neuronal and fetal cells induced by low-level exposure to thimerosal and other metal compounds"
http://www.informaworld.com/smpp/content~content=a910652305~db=all~jumptype=rss
And referenced here;
"Landmark Study Finds: Thimerosal Causes Autism Brain Pathology"
http://charlieinwonderland.com/?p=1380
And don't start with they removed it, way back, because we know they lied & many got those shots believing it was removed. My Grandchild was one. When they did finally remove it they still left it in the tetanus & flu shots & admitted it's still in others in small traces. As if the small traces don't count.
See this link too;
http://www.whale.to/vaccine/gardasil_death1.html
Sometimes I work long hours.
You linked to whale.to which diminishes anything you have to say.
I hope that you've read some articles on ScienceBlogs to give yourself a "fair and balanced" view.
But I doubt it. There is NOT ONE documented death wholly attributable to the Gardasil vaccine.
Above article is a pdf link. It summarizes the research and studies of both the disease and the vaccination. There are even charts to look at!
This summary also includes sources of information.
It lists the ingredients.
It shows the trial data, including the deaths! (note, those who recieved the actual vaccination and those who recieved the placebo had the same rate of death in the trials. It also shows the cause of death.)
Many people are talking about those reasons in these blogs at HuffPo & elsewhere as Americans wake to many truths.
http://www.haciendapub.com/severyn.html
Don't worry, it's only "trace amounts".
There is no fetal tissue in vaccines.
Such a fantastic overstatement, it begs the question of why you'd make it.
http://www.immunizationinfo.org/immunization_issues_detail.cfv?id=32
"Such a fantastic overstatement, it begs the question of why you'd make it."
"Human Diploid cells: MRC5 proteins:(human diploid cells, aborted fetuses)
Derived from normal lung tissue of a 14-week-old male fetus by J. P. Jacobs in September 1966 (Nature 227: 168-170, 1970), the MRC-5 cell line was established in a growth medium consisting of Earle's Basal Medium in Earle's balanced salt solution supplemented with 10% calf (bovine) serum. The MRC-5 ...more
Derived from normal lung tissue of a 14-week-old male fetus by J. P. Jacobs in September 1966 (Nature 227: 168-170, 1970), the MRC-5 cell line was established in a growth medium consisting of Earle's Basal Medium in Earle's balanced salt solution supplemented with 10% calf (bovine) serum. The MRC-5 cell strain (like the WI-38 cell line) is susceptible to a wide range of human viruses.
Viral vaccines are often cultured on aborted fetal tissue. There are several types of fetal cells in which the virus is grown: MRC5, WI-38, WI-26 VA4, RA273, PER C and HEK 293. This has raised concerns, with reports of some individuals with religious objections to abortion refusing vaccination because they feel this makes them complicit with the original act of abortion. "
http://www.novaccine.com/vaccine-ingredients/results.asp?sc=14
http://www.viromed.com/services/product/mrc5.htm
Video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=axj2KP1p7xs&feature=related
"Condemnation without investigation is the height of ignorance."
—Albert Einstein
Because studies prove that aluminum and mercury cause brain damage:
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/17114826
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/9923871?ordinalpos=1&itool=EntrezSystem2.PEntrez.Pubmed.Pubmed_ResultsPanel.Pubmed_DiscoveryPanel.Pubmed_Discovery_RA&linkpos=3&log$=relatedarticles&logdbfrom=pubmed
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/17454560?ordinalpos=1&itool=EntrezSystem2.PEntrez.Pubmed.Pubmed_ResultsPanel.Pubmed_DiscoveryPanel.Pubmed_Discovery_RA&linkpos=3&log$=relatedarticles&logdbfrom=pubmed
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I'd never heard about this. Are you serious?
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http://www.wrongdiagnosis.com/m/meningitis/deaths.htm
http://abcnews.go.com/Health/Story?id=3562888&page=1
http://www.cdc.gov/meningitis/about/faq.html
http://www.who.int/mediacentre/factsheets/fs141/en/
I think NoSillyName was asking if you were against this vaccine as well.
I'm burned out on this topic and people have their minds made up. Carry on.
Best wishes to all. Stay healthy.
See, these are provable examples of otherwise completely healthy youngsters dying of PROVABLE circumstance within days of contracting an illness. Children struck down within days PROVABLY by a vaccine preventable disease.
Not much chatter on this subject from the mercury militia.
"women tell their stories about ‘cervical cancer vaccines"
http://womenhurtbymedicine.wordpress.com/background-info/
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2009/02/06/eveningnews/main4781658.shtml
Please read the comments, too.
I consider Gardasill as both a young woman and a future mother. I say no for many reasons.
1. I won't use vaccines while thimerisol is included. It has been proven unsafe and contains the poison Mercury.
2. I do believe people are having serious health problems as a result of use.
3. I disagree that testing showed sufficient evidence of safety
4. Merck has proven themselves untrustworthy.
5. Vaccinating girls against a curable STD instead of teaching them to treat their bodies with respect is a bankrupt policy. Education is a great defense against many diseases.
6. Giving girls a feeling of invincibility with a product that is not 100% effective puts them in the position to make mistakes without first considering the consequences.
I wouldn't condemn anyone for using Gardasill if they believed they were doing the right thing. I would however condemn anyone who does not research these things for themselves.
You can get HPV on your wedding night.
People should take more personal responsibility for their actions and take necessary precautions to keep themselves safe. Sex can be a healthy activity, it shouldn't lead to the demise of your health for any reason.
I'm sure most everyone got.your point & appreciated it very much.
Unfortunately when we have a population where only half are regularly tested and the other half aren't encouraged as strongly to do so, we are left with a large amount of people who have no idea they are carrying a disease. Those are the types of people who give their spouse HPV on their wedding night.
Protect yourself by getting tested regularly and by insisting your partner does the same.
Education is not a substitute for medical help but it can prevent the need to seek that help.
Here's a couple of charts proving they don't:
http://www.vaccinationdebate.com/web1.html
http://www.autism.com/images/bioterrorgraph.jpg
http://www.medscape.com/viewarticle/563089
Sounds like this particular has been even more effective than was expected, so I guess the answer is a resounding YES! This particular vaccine works.
I'm sure they study vaccines and their effectiveness, don't they?
I would think this information would be public knowledge, just to reassure concerned parents like me.
But I have yet to find any proof that vaccines work in modern countries.
The research is being done and the FDA request has been made:
http://blogs.wsj.com/health/2008/11/13/merck-study-shows-promise-for-gardasil-in-boys/
http://www.webmd.com/sexual-conditions/hpv-genital-warts/news/20081113/hpv-vaccine-gardasil-may-help-boys-men
http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2009/07/24/2635486.htm
"“14 men and eight women with genital warts had cytobrush samples taken from genital lesions, finger tips, and tips of finger nails. Samples were examined for the presence of HPV DNA by the polymerase chain reaction.
HPV DNA was detected in all female genital samples and in 13/14 male genital samples. HPV DNA was detected in the finger brush samples of three women and nine men. The same HPV type was identified in genital and hand samples in one woman and five men.
This study has identified hand carriage of genital HPV types in patients with genital warts. Although sexual intercourse is considered the usual mode of transmitting genital HPV infection, our findings raise the possibility of transmission by finger-genital contact.â€
Condoms offer little protection against HPV since any skin-to-skin contact can result in transmission of the virus."
"Moreover, HPV type 6 and 11 DNAs were detected in pubic hairs plucked from two patients who had been successfully treated and who did not show any lesion at the time of hair collection; this finding is an argument that HPV DNA may persist in this region. The presence of genital HPV types in plucked pubic and perianal hair suggests that there is an endogenous reservoir for HPV which may play a role in the recurrences of genital warts"
http://www.health-science-report.com/alotek/topics2/article51/
HPV is spread by skin-to-skin contact with an HPV-infected area. Infections can be subclinical, meaning the virus lives in the skin without causing symptoms. This is why many people with HPV do not know they have it or that they could spread it. For a person exposed to a partner who has a low-risk genital wart-causing strain of HPV such as HPV 6 or 11, it usually takes about six weeks to three months for genital warts to appear. However, infections with high-risk strains of HPV cause no symptoms and can only be detected on Pap or HPV tests.
Researchers already know that condoms don't always protect against the virus because the virus can grow on areas of the genitals not covered by a latex barrier.
Researchers don't know whether people infected with genital HPV but who don't have symptoms are as contagious as people with symptoms. They also don't know how much HPV is transmitted through sexual contact versus skin-to-skin contact."
http://www.healthywomen.org/healthtopics/humanpapillomavirus
Some types of HPV are referred to as “low-risk†viruses because they rarely cause lesions that develop into cancer. HPV types that are more likely to lead to the development of cancer are referred to as “high-risk.†Both high-risk and low-risk types of HPV can cause the growth of abnormal cells, but only the high-risk types of HPV lead to cancer. Sexually transmitted, high-risk HPVs include types 16, 18, 31, 33, 35, 39, 45, 51, 52, 56, 58, 59, 66, 68, and 73 (4). These high-risk types of HPV cause growths on the cervix that are usually flat and nearly invisible, as compared with the external warts caused by low-risk types HPV–6 and HPV–11. HPV types 16 and 18 together cause about 70 percent of cervical cancers (4, 5). It is important to note, however, that the great majority of high-risk HPV infections go away on their own and do not cause cancer (5)."
http://www.cancer.gov/cancertopics/factsheet/risk/HPV
That's because this experimental drug hasn't been around very long & they want our children as guinea pigs so they don't want you to know.
Another thing is, it says;
"As of May 1, 2009, more than 24 million doses of Gardasil were distributed in the United States."
It's clear that it didn't say these shots were already administered individually so I'm pretty sure the bulk of them are laying in wait for their victims to show up & be counted as one more test subject.
So the reported incidents can't be fairly compared to 24 million doses claimed given to our girls.
Therefore, common sense tells us 39 deaths (That we know of & hope don't rise) & all the other reports of injury is an extremely high number of incidents for such a young drug.
We have to consider that all the statistics aren't even in yet, unfortunately, so who knows what the future will bring for how many?
Garasil kills & we don't even know if it works so it can't be worth the risk!
Tell all your friends, people, because those commercials are everywhere & tricking our people.
This is a crime & should be treated as one!
http://www.cdc.gov/vaccinesafety/vaers/gardasil.htm
Repeating the falsehood again and again, will not make it true.
Then show me the proof that gardasil prevented cancer.