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What Is It Like to Be a Woman Working in the Tech Industry?

Posted: 07/16/11 06:17 PM ET

TL;DR: Being a woman in the tech industry is awesome if you love technology enough to push through the more difficult parts.

Right off the bat, a disclaimer: It's very difficult to answer this question broadly. Not all experiences are the same. However, I can share my personal experience because it might contribute to some larger themes if enough women participate on this thread. So, here's my answer... an answer from a product designer who has spent over a decade building products and has spent the last four years building products and managing people in Silicon Valley[1].

ACT 1 - UNFORTUNATE REALITY

The Environment is Generally Rough
Girls are raised differently than boys. Not all girls and not all boys are raised the same, obviously, but on average girls are more sheltered than boys in their formative years. Girls are typically raised with kid gloves and rarely receive the hard, direct and tough feedback of their male counterparts. This is important because the technical environment is tough and has been built on a foundation of direct feedback and there are very established and elaborate structures that facilitate nerd trash talk. So, if you enter this environment as a woman without any sort of agenda or understanding of this culture the first thing you find is that if you actually say something the most likely reaction is for a guy to verbally hit you directly in the face. To the guys this is perfectly normal, expected and encouraged behavior but to women this is completely out of nowhere and extremely discouraging.

As a technical woman, this is your introduction and the first thing you have to learn is how to get back up and walk right back into a situation where the likelihood of getting punished for participating is one. How you choose to react to this[2] determines the rest of your career in technology. If it's too painful you'll retreat to management, if you can tough it out your career will be limited because the very tools you develop to survive have other social consequences[3].

You Generally Feel Alone
Because the environment is so rough and generally hostile, the women who can navigate it are a very small, select group[4]. It's rare to encounter another woman and even rarer to encounter another technical woman.

Overall it's awesome to encounter other women because while you grow accustomed to quirks of a room full of men (the jostling, the chest beating, the pissing contests, the egos, etc.) it does get old. When another woman is thrown into that mix, you get to avoid the old script and reevaluate the dynamic so it's more interesting. However, you and everyone else is accustomed to women in the facilitator manager role, not in the making technical decisions role. Typically your collaborative and directional contributions almost always fare better than your technical contributions. If you pay attention to those social cues, you may start to subtly pull yourself out of the rough and tumble technical decision making and retreat into the facilitation role. If you ignore the social cues, you have to assert yourself aggressively into the technical conversation[5] and take some lumps. If you choose that aggressive path, you wil be even more alone because those likely less technical women in the room with you don't have the expertise to back you up.

ACT II - FORTUNATE REALITY

You have Access to Opportunities (You are NOT Actually Alone)

Even the aforementioned nerd trash talk is actually a useful tool that can help you. The reason that culture exists is to make everyone in the group better. The fact that you are getting hit in the face means that someone is either wrong and you can hit back with a correct answer or that you are wrong and someone is letting you know that directly. Sticking that out means you are learning in an accelerated environment with instant correction.

Furthermore, if you stick around long enough, you can find people who aren't completely insecure and are confident enough to not resort to insults to assert themselves. Those people make the tough environment actually tolerable. If you can help each other then you can establish a safer zone to talk through ideas. And since those more secure people are typically so secure because they are really, really good, you can find yourself in an informational jet-stream. I didn't fully appreciate this until working with Adam, Charlie and Kevin Der but once discovered and taken advantage of opportunities abound.

Opportunities also exist in the form of help from others pushing you forward and help in the form of others who don't let you get away with anything. Help might be treating you like everyone else. Help might be from the powerful women who may not make the perfect guidepost but are available and will make time for you. For me personally a huge turning point was working at Quora. I remember realizing how the founders had trusted me with this incredible challenge involved with taking responsibility for building Quora's product and interface. It was the first time I was able to take responsibility directly which is a remarkable opportunity.

Results Matter and are Powerful

The technology world isn't a perfect meritocracy but it's close enough and awesome results do matter. Whatever barrier is in front of you, an amazing product that gets traction will cut through it. The same is true for an awesome abstraction that boasts a 50% speed improvement or generates elegant code which enables future efficiency. The absence of an outright block means that making something great can open many closed doors. Just knowing that is possible is very encouraging. Additionally, if you push through the crap and have major contributions to make, no one is going to be able to ignore your results nor will they want to. At the end of the day everyone in technology wants to turn a dollar into ten and then into a thousand; it's essentially a culture built on hope and results. The barriers to entry are pretty low and inexpensive. Start building, learn JavaScript, publish thoughts, all of these building blocks are readily accessible. Use them. Get results. People will give you money to get more results.

Being a Woman in Tech is a Competitive Advantage

Developing new technologies is about oscillating from extreme focus (for designing and programming and building) to wide open creative exploration (in order to understand people and their motivations as well as their problems). As a woman thinking about these complex issues, you have a rich and deep understanding around details like safety and privacy but also around tone and cooperative communication and gathering feedback. You also have this ability to obsess about the details[6] others may ignorantly avoid. That's not even the faintest outline of the unique characteristics women bring. When half of all consumers are women, being able to tap into those women to use your product is obviously huge. Not enough women capitalize on this advantage, but that doesn't make it less meaningful.

ACT III - CONCLUSION

Technology is Awesome

Being a woman in technology means being surrounded by amazing technology and crazy smart and ambitious people all the time. Being a technical woman means being able to join in on the fun and building things for people as a path toward making their lives better. How awesome is that?

________

[1] Additional context: There are a lot of overlapping yet ultimately distinct cultures in SV right now. There is the founder culture and within that there are established founders and so-called founders of products that are even more likely to fail. There are run of the mill engineers and so-called 10x engineers. There are designers and product managers, each with its own 10x variety. There are people who speak at conferences and are good at promoting themselves and there are people who are actually extremely talented and fly under the radar completely.

On top of that there's what the press cares about and the press cares about founders and sometimes managers. There are precious few women founders and of that small subset they are generally not established founders with proven successes who are also technical. (I can only think of one woman who has founded a company that had a chance of succeeding and she's amazing and talented and impressive but not technical.) As a result most articles that are written about women are almost always exclusively about women in tech who are managers (product or professional), not specifically technical women.

So you read about these managers but then you also read these regular calls for more women in tech and how none exist and you look around thinking, "Hello! Right here! C'mon! WTF?" Now, to be fair sometimes the women written about are also somewhat technical in that they have taken CS classes but anyone who is actively technical knows that a few CS classes are not the same as being in the trenches and building a product hands-on. This context is important because as a technical woman, you are looking for something to cling to and determine how you fit in to the larger ecosystem. But because the larger ecosystem is nearly totally empty when it comes to role models, you have to look either at men or closer to home at the women in your immediate vicinity who are probably not technical.

The women who are actually ambitious enough to potentially make it in tech as technical women look at this landscape and every signal derails her from that technical path because the vicous cycle encourages her to chase only the most viable channels. Cheif among them: management.

[2] If you are lucky, you will encounter people (men and women) who are caring enough to help you in deal with this in exactly two ways: i) They encourage you to keep going and ii) They hold you to the same high standard as everyone else. If you are unlucky, you will encounter people (men and women) who validate your worst fears and allow you to give up.

[3] There's another dimension which is the girls club versus boys club which is situated on top of this mess. The girls club is very different than the boys club. Entirely different rules apply and if you've spent any amount of time optimizing to fit into the boys club, it will not transfer to the girls club. The girls club is full of managers, not engineers. Users, not builders. All the tools that allow you to survive the boys club as a technical woman become these huge liabilities in the girls club. You are seen as too rough, too aloof and too disinterested (because you actually probably are). In my case I am also seen as having far too many sharp edges, being too mean, etc. That's all true but not without purpose.

[4] You're also constantly looking to other women for someone to model yourself after. Because the set of available candidates is so limited, it's really hard to find someone you feel comfortable with having as a guidepost. So, you basically either choose a man to model after or cobble something together from fragments of women. A frankinmodel is usually always bad because the traits that make a product or professional manager successful are different from those that make a technical founder successful.

[5] The worst part for me personally was a stage where I was behind. I didn't touch a computer until I was in college. My male counterparts, however, had been programming actively for years before I even navigated the filesystem. But there is something far more treacherous than losing from being behind: it's not being considered a competitor. When you are strapped with low expectations it's easy for you to start believing those are true. People are also sometimes quick to validate your low expectations and even performance.

In college I had this racquetball class. The first thing the coach did was divide the group into boys and girls. The boys played against other boys and girls played against other girls. After a few weeks of this arrangement, I was destroying the other girls. Eventually the coach allowed me to play against the guys and even the worst guy promptly destroyed me. They hit the ball way harder than the girls and the play was very physical and intimidating. On the final day of class in the final match I lost by only a couple points. By that time I had finally started to hone a new strategy: I couldn't compete on speed or power, so I competed on finesse. That meant skating the ball along a wall and giving the guys less of an opportunity to hit the ball with any amount of power. I felt pretty good about getting to that point, but upset that I didn't have an entire term of play at the guy's level. Had I started earlier and had my competition been tougher, I bet I would have won a few.

[6] I have this trick where if I start to obsess about something that doesn't actually matter, I'll try to divert that attention to obsessing about something to make the product better. That obsession breeds focus and when directed productively toward real problems awesome results can sometimes be generated.

This post originally appeared on Quora.

 

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TL;DR: Being a woman in the tech industry is awesome if you love technology enough to push through the more difficult parts. Right off the bat, a disclaimer: It's very difficult to answer this questi...
TL;DR: Being a woman in the tech industry is awesome if you love technology enough to push through the more difficult parts. Right off the bat, a disclaimer: It's very difficult to answer this questi...
 
 
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09:48 PM on 08/10/2011
I would also like to add one more thing. I think some men who are young and never married tend to be very specific about female subordinates; by that I mean, they want an attractive female subordinate they would like to marry in personal life. I remember watching a television news story on "60 Minutes" about Microsoft employees. There was a young male employee (about 22 years old) who was very physically rough, verbally rude and abusive to a female subordinate who was in her 30's. When the reporter asked the young male why he was so rude to her, he replied that he would much rather work with a younger and more attractive woman that he would like to marry in the future. In my opinion, this young male should have been fired, he took the job for a very wrong reason. Guys, don't go looking for a bride in the work place, go to a dating service instead (there are all kinds of dating services now more than decades past) or a church, club or organization of your choice.
09:48 PM on 08/10/2011
"The Environment is Generally Rough"

Usually an environment is rough when there are men because by nature men are more aggressive than women. The more testosterone a male has in his blood, the more aggression he will express in his behavior and the more aggressive he is, the more rough he is verbally or physically.

However, is it really necessary for a technology department to be a rough environment? Since technology is dependent on logic and facts, I don't see how strength and speed fits in. Strength and speed belong in work environments like factories, construction sites, sports arenas, stock exchange floors, farms, etc. If I was working in a technology field and there was a male who behaved very aggressively with me, I would feel like he was in the wrong career. In my opinion, the technology environment should be no different than the accounting environment and marketing environment; accounting is very detailed and marketing is technical.
07:26 AM on 07/19/2011
You said it joan my mother managed to go to collage raise 4 kids all on her own with out help from the state witch there was no such thing back then these kids today any old excuse boo hoo SUCK IT UP the problem is they want what there folks have now they dont get the fact there parents and to work to get where they are and parents need to stop with I dont want my kids to have to work as hard as I did thats a big part of the problem we need to go back to you want it work for it like I did
05:50 AM on 07/19/2011
This is absolutely no different than what women faced in the sixties entering male-dominated fields such as medicine, engineering, and law. When women were admitted to the male-dominated military academies, they found the same thing.

If you can't take the heat, honey, then stay out of the male dominated fields.

There are actually quite a few of us, old enough to be your grandmother, who entered male-dominated fields and thrived in them. We didn't feel the need to whine about it; we, apparently, were made of sterner stuff than you are.

So, go cry a river somewhere else, or suck it up and do your job.
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StrawHat
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07:18 PM on 07/19/2011
Your post is quite repulsive to THIS silver-haired warrior goddess who entered male dominated fields a loooooooooooong time ago.

No one should have to "suck up" being abused. No one.
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12:54 AM on 07/19/2011
Yay for frist post in Huffpo by Woman in Tech who Actually Creates Technology.

As in, cuts code, designs boards, gets sh*t to actually work.
StevenRussell1
Christian Pilot
12:45 AM on 07/19/2011
Turn it over to Jesus, folks.

Jesus will not leave you lonely, and He is the one size who fits all.

Praise His blessed name.
10:47 AM on 07/19/2011
...Or Santa Claus, the Tooth Fairy, the Easter Bunny, or Mickey Mouse.

They all are imaginary friends
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10:51 AM on 07/19/2011
wrong blog buddy..
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12:12 AM on 07/19/2011
Outstanding article that clearly defines the technology work environment for women. I've worked in Tech since the early 90's. Mostly in Sales. Talk about your bottomline management and direct feedback. I've had my share of blows to the ego. It's tough, but if you stick with it, it's extremely rewarding. Yes, many guys are rough, and sexist, but we always have 'our' ways to fight back. I'd say in over 65% of my career, the top technology sales reps are women. It's because guys always underestimate our competitive drive and willingness to punch right back.
11:57 PM on 07/18/2011
I've been associated with high tech in various forms since the early '70's. From rocket science (really) to the semiconductor industry. And I've worked with many women in technical capacities. Almost all of them were as good as, or better than, their male counterparts. You see, the equipment, the computers, the propulsion systems, etc., don't care what your sex is...or your race, or your age, or your sexual orientation. It only cares that you are right, and that you have the skills and the imagination to do the job. But too many people who were whizzes technically got promoted beyond their abilities when they got into management (Google "The Peter Principle"). Unfortunately, technical ability and the ability to manage programs and people are not necessarily linked. Some are great managers, but lousy technically, and vice versa. Some of the smarter companies (like Lockheed) have created "dual track" career paths, to let people progress, but in the area for which they are best suited technical or management. A few can do both equally well, and they deserve all the benefits they get. Hi tech is a great career, but not everyone is cut out for it.
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SmileAndActNice
Utilitarianism, the -ism that works.
10:08 PM on 07/18/2011
I generally find the guys who are hostile are also the most clueless from a tech perspective. Their aggression is a symptom of fear.

You break them of it by patiently requiring that they explain themselves then cross examining them and revealing the flaws in their thinking. Having their ignorance revealed is tremendously stressful for them ( which is half their problem, when I'm right I'm just right, but when I'm wrong **I get to learn something**. They should be happy to learn. ) so once they figure out that you'll put them through it every time they try to B.S. you they stop doing it.

Guys who know their stuff are confident and willing to talk things through politely. And if we disagree we can always run some benchmarks to prove empirically who is correct to the education of all.
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StrawHat
Eat veggies, don't vote for them
07:24 PM on 07/19/2011
I have a retired female friend who entered tech in the 1960's working as a civilian contractor on military projects. She taught me the trick of "don't tell them they're wrong right up front, ask them questions until THEY realize that they're wrong". It's a great way to disarm the most aggressive in the bunch. Eventually, they'll figure out that you REALLY know your stuff and that you're not going to let them slide -- they'll interact with you more collaboratively after that. Eventually.
11:28 PM on 07/24/2011
The positive flip-side to this is that smart, competent people, men or women, are generally happy to find other smart, competent people - no matter gender, background, or anything else. The trick is being fortunate enough to end up in an environment with them.
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09:48 PM on 07/18/2011
I'm studying CIS and love it. I work alongside so many women at my school - I never felt alone in my gender..
09:17 PM on 07/18/2011
So true about the work environment for women--and for the men who would have it otherwise. But no way is this the source for tech innovation and excellence. Gender Innovation can improve innovation and technology results. It can actually be fun and rewarding!
⋄There is research: Collective Intelligence--higher intelligence than any individual in a group--is greater with numbers of women in a work group.
⋄There are gurus like Tom Kelly of Ideo and a Rocket Science Exec I recently worked with who have discovered: Devil's Advocate culture kills innovation. It can be useful in it's place but not exclusively.
⋄There are the students in my SCU Graduate Engineering Core class "Gender and Engineering" who apply what they learn about gender differences and what "Relational" people, often women, contribute, for example, to:
1. increase productivity of his global team by 30%
2. produce more mature products early in development from designing his group's culture to allow women to "fit"
3. get two promotions in one year from a female manager who had utterly confused him
4. have her ideas actually be listened to and implemented as never before
5. turn around seemingly impossible challenge to fulfill her project on time
6. clear up situations that appeared as gender bias thwarting her career
The best technology does not have to come from abrasive work environments.
On the home front, these techies turn around personal relationships that don't work and deepen relationships that do work.
Is something more possible? Yes.
foresure
Brash and Harsh
10:49 PM on 07/18/2011
Bonita:

Wonderful:

"There is research". So I guess women are clearly superior to men. That means the genders are not really equal.

"There is research" Yes, there sure is.

There is "research" to support "intelligent design", and at least until the last fifty years, there was plenty of "research" to demonstrate that one gender was clearly superior to the other.

Wow, "Gender in Engineering" Is that part of the Women's Study's Program in Engineering School?
12:43 AM on 07/19/2011
There is fairly reputable research :
"ScienceDaily (Oct. 2, 2010) — When it comes to intelligence, the whole can indeed be greater than the sum of its parts. A new study co-authored by MIT, Carnegie Mellon University, and Union College researchers documents the existence of collective intelligence among groups of people who cooperate well, showing that such intelligence extends beyond the cognitive abilities of the groups' individual members, and that the tendency to cooperate effectively is linked to the number of women in a group.
Your "guess" jumps into the "if I am not up, I am down" Individualistic paradigm.
Your own lens is right there. Could it be that the women bring something that is DIFFERENT not superior. If you are not "up"--as in higher in status--you could be equally important while different.
It is not unusual for "gender" to be interpreted as about women but actually gender includes both men and women. Gender and Engineering is in the Technology and Society section of the Core Curriculum along with Managing Global Teams and Managing a Multicultural Workforce.
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06:52 PM on 07/18/2011
Oh, I love this article. The author has really captured what it feels like to be a woman in a workplace full of men. No victimhood here, just reality. Favorite points:

1) Identifying and developing rapport with those coworkers who've surpassed their own egos, and the "infornational jetstream" they can provide. Nothing truer than that. Best advice ever, for anyone.

2) Frankinmodel - I love it! I gave up a long time ago on finding any single woman I could emulate. But different people have different strengths, and I can learn from (most) all of them.

3) It IS lonely - no doubt about it. Anyone who's in a single-gender-dominated field learns not to expect to get their social needs met. The work has to be satisfying, in and of itself.

4) It becomes harder to relate to other women in the workplace, the longer we spend in the sole company of men. The set of rules is completely different for women than for men. Once a year I go to a conference for women in my industry that completely saves my sanity for the entire following year. But, of course, we're all women who work solely with men.
02:36 PM on 07/18/2011
I've worked as an embedded software engineer for 10 years, in both the UK and US, and have never experienced an environment I could describe as rough or hostile. In fact, I've always found the male engineers I've worked with to be polite and friendly. Yes, there is definitely an element of proving yourself at the beginning - but this must be true of many industries. In fact, I would go as far as to say that being the only female in a department can work to your advantage, especially once you've gained the respect of your peers and they understand that you aren't just there because you flirted with the interviewer!

I think comments about being the secretary and making the tea happen in ANY field, not just tech. It's easy to blame technology just because the number of women is so low, but I've heard from friends that this kind of stuff happens in all sorts of places.

On the other hand, programmers are generally a fairly quiet bunch, so perhaps different areas of the same industry have different levels of discrimination. For me personally, I've always found my working environment to be enjoyable and mutually respectful.
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10:32 PM on 07/18/2011
If anyone makes secretary comments I always look up distractedly and say,

"Huh, Tea? Yes, I'll take two sugars thanks. You're a dear" and then turn back to what I'm working on.
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Brash and Harsh
10:50 PM on 07/18/2011
SmileAndActNice

This must have been terribly, terribly traumatic for you.


Better get some therapy from a "Woman's Issues" therapist.
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timbeaux
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11:07 PM on 07/19/2011
Two sugars is one too many.
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timbeaux
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01:02 PM on 07/18/2011
This is a great piece. Is it tough? Yes, it is. (It's tough on men, too.) Can you make it? Yes, you can? Is it a meritocracy? Yes, it is, and it should be.

So bracing to read something from someone who doesn't expect an entire, functioning culture to change to adapt to her.
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StrawHat
Eat veggies, don't vote for them
08:34 PM on 07/18/2011
Were you referring to The Patriarchy in your last sentence?

Think about it.
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jf12
When I saw her I marveled greatly.
12:44 AM on 07/19/2011
The nerd culture.
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timbeaux
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11:09 PM on 07/19/2011
Actually, I was referring to the same thing she was: the workplace, especially the tech workplace. I admire her brains and courage and the fact that she uses her energy to excel rather than building up a head of resentment.
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Brash and Harsh
03:13 AM on 07/18/2011
I was certainly glad to see a well written, well thought out exposition on the concept of



FEMALE = VICTIM
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Paluxy Moon
07:26 PM on 07/18/2011
Interesting that you would perceive this article as "victimhood", when I see it as an extremely perceptive and insightful examination of one person's experience in a single-gender-dominated field.
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Brash and Harsh
10:41 PM on 07/18/2011
Paluxy

Martin Luther King said he "hoped for the day that people were judged by their character, not the color of their skin".

When women concentrate and fret about the "barriers" they face, they make continue to promote their victimhood.

As Geroge Will, the columnist stated, so many groups struggle to achieve the "status of victim".
As the columnist George Will said,