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Social Security: Correction or Rejection

Posted: 07/26/11 07:38 PM ET

For 28 years, Congress has rejected all attempts to preserve the solvency of the Social Security system. For the past 15 years, everyone has recognized that some correction had to be made, but, as we all know, nothing has been done to improve it. I sit here, holding in my hand, the testimony of my friend, Stanford G. Ross, to the Senate Committee on Finance on May 25, 2005.

Ross was Commissioner of Social Security under Jimmy Carter, Public Trustee of the Social Security and Medicare Trust Funds under George H.W. Bush and Bill Clinton and Chairman of the Social Security Advisory Board under Clinton and the younger Bush. He knows the trouble we're in now, and he knew it back in 2005. He said then "The rancor and present discussion of Social Security is unprecedented." That rancor ranked well below the current level of acrimony between the two parties.

Ross went on to say that "For nearly 70 years, since its enactment, the Social Security system has been broadly supported by Republican presidents and administrations as well as Democratic presidents and administrations. Bipartisan approaches supporting Social Security were taken under presidents Eisenhower, Nixon, Ford, Reagan and George H.W. Bush." "...the concepts underlying the systems are sound and the values they reflect of providing income protection for the elderly, disabled, and their spouses and dependents on a universal, contributory basis are widely shared by Americans."

I would suggest, in 2011, that "the rancor and present discussions of Social Security is unprecedented", far exceeding that of 2005. When President Obama hinted last weekend that Social Security concessions might be made, Democrats objected. It sounded like that cuts in Medicaid were more acceptable and Social Security still remains the sacred cow.

In 2005, Ross proposed a plan to eliminate a 1.92% deficit projected by the Social Security Agency. He spelled it out on page eight of the above document, where interested readers may find it. But briefly put, he suggested possible revenue enhancements that would cover half of the deficit, and possible benefit adjustments that would cover the second half. The second half included an "increase [in] reaching retirement age in [the] future as necessary." He also suggested revamping household benefits and "other changes in benefit formulas". He suggested no big bites, just a half dozen nibbles that would end the deficits.

The Republicans on the Committee rejected it out of hand. They were backing president Bush's plan to privatize Social Security by permitting recipients to invest part of their savings in non-government investments. (If we look back to 2008, we know how well that would've worked out.) So their rejection was natural. However, Ross could not understand why the Democrats rejected it, too. He asked one of the Democrats why they had rejected his plan. The reply was "You don't understand, Social Security is our [political] issue." Nobody wanted a correction, because nobody wanted a solution. Republicans wanted privatization as part of the end of "big government", and Democrats wanted to keep the issue alive because it helped them win votes.

Once again, take a look at Ross' solution and then let's see what the politicians will do now.


 
 
 
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Mikesfreedomblog
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10:10 PM on 08/31/2011
Why don't you remove the limits on taxable income? Wow, if people who earned , say over $108.000.00 per year paid FICA on all of their earnings, like the Corporate CEO's who earn more income than the companies they run pay in taxes, well the entire Social Security Solvency issue would be resolved. There would be funds to give those who most need it real cost of living increases, and no need to raise the retirement age. Duh! But the super rich never pay their share, do they?
09:45 AM on 07/31/2011
There are two questions that should be asked of all social security changes.
1) Does it apply only to people younger than the proposer?
2) Does it apply to the whole population group, or just to those most able to pay ?

Even the richest among us does not pay tax on all of their social security income.

The tax return of Joe Biden is a example of how this works:
http://www.whitehouse.gov/sites/default/files/vp-biden-2010-complete-return.pdf

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7........ Wages Salaries________ $276,463
16a.... Pension and annuities___ $31,826

20a.... Social Security benefits__ $27,923
20b.... giving Taxable amount__ $23,735

In 2008, there was $54 billion of taxable social security income for retirees that had gross income over $100,000. ($45 billion for $75,000 to $100,000, and $36 billion for $50,000-75,000)

So if we removed the 15% deduction from social security income for those income brackets, there would be an additional 9, 8, and 6 billion of taxable income, or around $7 billion in additional yearly funds for social security.

Or roughly a 1% increase in OASDI revenues.

http://www.irs.gov/pub/irs-soi/08in14ar.xls
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12:22 AM on 07/30/2011
"When approaching the benefit adjustments, the present structure of spousal
benefits should be reviewed and appropriate changes should be made. At present,
spouses get an automatic 50% of the higher earner’s benefit. This can be seen as
discriminatory vis a vis working spouses and lower income spouses. While benefits can
be viewed on a family basis, something like earnings sharing or other methods of
dividing benefits could be developed to achieve greater fairness." Stanford Ross, 2005
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TruelyFedUp
Ethics is nothing else than reverence for life.
10:30 AM on 07/29/2011
It really is time for us to grow up as citizens of this nation and take control of our government by managing it at the local level. It is time for us to take back control of the 30% of our land that is in the hands of the federal government and to give it back to the people for their use - with no strings attached.

If each citizen had as a birthright the use of enough viable land, fresh air and water and the materials needed to make him self sustaining BEFORE any economic or government system was devised we would have a vastly different landscape than we have now.

History is ripe with examples of populations that took control of their own governance and ensured that every citizen was cared for from birth to death, and they still had wealth and a high quality of life. Here is an example that lasted for 1000 years http://www.rosenoire.org/articles/Peasant_Commune.php

The giddy diaper days are over folks it is time for us to step up to the plate and make the hits count.