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Dumb Rich People

Posted: 05/25/2012 2:22 pm

A few weeks ago, it was reported that some right-wing rich guys' club had pledged $100 million to defeat President Obama. The Koch Brothers led the way, pledging $60 million, which is pocket change, when your net worth is $50,000,000,000.00.

Leaving aside the obvious issue -- the estate tax -- I'm puzzled as to why all those right-wing rich folks feel that way. The foundation of their wealth -- the stock market -- has performed vastly better when Democrats have been in charge.

In 2008, the New York Times reported that since 1929, $10,000 invested in the stock market under Democratic Presidents (over 40 years) had become $300,671. Meanwhile, $10,000 invested in the stock market under Republican Presidents (over 35 years) had become only $11,733.

Well, at least the affluent caste didn't lose money during Republican regimes, right? Wrong. The value of the dollar dropped by 92 percent during that period. So in real value, $10,000 invested in the stock market under Republican presidents actually became just $955. And 46 cents. In economic terms, roughly the same effect as some foreign enemy blowing up 90 percent of our factories, warehouses, farms, malls, office buildings, apartment buildings, and every other productive asset.

Poor rich people. All the money gone. Those darned Republicans.

And under President Obama, the difference actually has increased, dramatically. On the day that President Obama was sworn into office, the S&P 500 index closed at 805. Today, it's at 1,321. Under President Obama, the stock market is up 64 percent, in less than four years.

That brings the Democratic average annual stock market performance up to 10 percent. The Republican figure is 0.4 percent. No wonder Republicans hate government -- they're so bad at it. Particularly when it comes to preserving national wealth.

And despite the incessant whining of the corporate rich, by no stretch of the imagination are they suffering under the Obama administration. Just today, it was reported that pay for CEOs has reached an all-time high, just short of $10 million a year. Or roughly $5,000 an hour. Good work, if you can get it.

So why are all these right-wing deep pockets going after Obama and the Democrats? Even if you're some selfish rich guy, that's just dumb. That's cutting your wallet to spite your pants. Maybe the rich need to develop a little class consciousness.

Honestly, when you look at the facts, these robber barons spending huge wads of cash to get rid of the Democrats are like lemmings. They're all jumping off the money cliff, and they're taking everyone else with them.

Most of us have heard the question, "If you're so smart, why aren't you rich?" But a better question would be, "If you're so rich, why aren't you smart?"

Courage,

Alan Grayson

 

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A few weeks ago, it was reported that some right-wing rich guys' club had pledged $100 million to defeat President Obama. The Koch Brothers led the way, pledging $60 million, which is pocket change, w...
A few weeks ago, it was reported that some right-wing rich guys' club had pledged $100 million to defeat President Obama. The Koch Brothers led the way, pledging $60 million, which is pocket change, w...
 
 
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05:07 PM on 05/30/2012
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laffFUwant
Righties hate Jesus' platform 4 the poor.
07:45 AM on 05/29/2012
I believe it is all coming down now to bigtry. "I am rich. I have bought, wiggled, squeezed myself into "upper class status," I will not be ruled by someone who is not as good as I am. So There!"
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George Kaplan Observes
Witness to the fascinating Parade of Humanity
10:28 PM on 05/31/2012
Most 'rich' folks now made their money the old-fashioned way.

They were born to it.
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laffFUwant
Righties hate Jesus' platform 4 the poor.
07:20 AM on 06/01/2012
True. If many of them had to struggle like some folk did to make it, they wouldn't. I love the stories of those who caught a dream and ran with it. Our family began buying old houses in the 70's, repairing them and reselling them or renting them out. This also trains your children in skills and knowledge.
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BigBearcatBill
This is the real Bearcat - a Binturong
02:37 AM on 05/29/2012
Maybe the Rich, the repubs and their 5 supreme court guys who gave the decision for the rich to buy elections are forgetting the French Revolution, Russian Revoltuino and a few others more recently where the majority and middle class lost their patience with the rich treating them like piece of meat.
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Kai-HK
Don't Share My Wealth! Share My Work Ethic!
01:06 AM on 05/29/2012
Alan:

There is a bit of specious reasoning in the Democrat Growth v Republican growth theory. The economy is influenced by a lot more than who was president and in many cases, the Republican president following a Democrat Boom is cleaning up a bust caused by the credit boom and vice versa…since there are no share of Dem presidents that have inherited a tough economy that was not their fault. Throw in international events, congressional composition, etc and the party of the president has little to do with the stock market.

This is clearly a case where correlation is not causation.

In the case of Obama, he is clearly bad for business and his Public Equity model is horrific in comparison to the Private Equity model that has served this nation very well. Those with a vested interest in economic growth over economy-destroying redistribution should do what they can to get Obama out.

The Koch’s need our support in this. ‘

Kai
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ritamary
03:46 AM on 05/29/2012
Private equity aka pirate equity has NOT served this nation well.
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Kai-HK
Don't Share My Wealth! Share My Work Ethic!
11:12 PM on 05/29/2012
Sure it has...one of the reasons why we are not the basket case of the 1970's and 1980's...PE reinvigorated industries, driving effciency and reallocating capital to better uses.
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laffFUwant
Righties hate Jesus' platform 4 the poor.
07:58 AM on 05/29/2012
Democrats understand and use statesmanship,and good will, thus usually keeping us out of war. This alone saves trillions of dollars. This also prevents the nasty habit of OPKing-(killing) other peoples kids. Few politicians or their kids give their lives or even serve in these wars.

Barack Obama inherited a tough economy caused by the hawkish policies of George Bush, where Wall Street and banks were in crisis. When the Auto industry was about to fail, the conservatives said,"Let em eat cake." President Obama fought for it and saved many American families from ruin.

Greed and bigotry should never be supported.
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Kai-HK
Don't Share My Wealth! Share My Work Ethic!
11:29 PM on 05/29/2012
laffFUwant:

You state, ‘Democrats understand and use statesmanship,and good will, thus usually keeping us out of war. This alone saves trillions of dollars.’

I get what you saying and generally agree that the Republicans waste a lot on foreign policy actions, both military and otherwise. But keep in mind that some of our biggest wars have been Democrat started.

Wilson WWI, Roosevelt WWII, Kennedy/Johnson Vietnam, not to mention….Carter Iran, and not to mention all the non-congressionally-sanctioned military actions by both Clinton and Obama. Obama is bombing people in Yemen without any legitimacy…

However the point of the article was not how much war costs us but rather economic growth and stock market growth…and war is good for both in general so…

You continue, ‘Barack Obama inherited a tough economy caused by the hawkish policies of George Bush, where Wall Street and banks were in crisis.’

True….and Bush inherited an IT bubble and a terrorist attack… I see where you are going, but all you are proving is that the person sitting in the office of the presidency reacts to economic conditions does not invent them. It supports my point of correlation rather than causation.

You continue, ‘When the Auto industry was about to fail, the conservatives said,"Let em eat cake."

As they should have….GM deserved to go bankrupt, get reorganized, and come out a better company.
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Kai-HK
Don't Share My Wealth! Share My Work Ethic!
11:29 PM on 05/29/2012
You conclude, ‘Greed and bigotry should never be supported.’

I agree…which is why I am appalled at all the greed that is in the wake of President Obama’s Public Equity efforts as he hands out payola to his supporters with taxpayer money. And the obviously bigoted tone that he has taken in ever racial conflict that has happened in the States shows that his lack of color-blindness in the office of presidency must be stopped. That was your point right?

Kai
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Devil Dog 40
02:01 PM on 05/28/2012
In 2008, the New York Times reported that since 1929, $10,000 invested in the stock market under Democratic Presidents (over 40 years) had become $300,671. Meanwhile, $10,000 invested in the stock market under Republican Presidents (over 35 years) had become only $11,733.

And this includes the record run/crashes during the Bush regime. Wow and I looked, except for Clinton and now Obama Dems controlled both houses under Dem presidents all the way back to 1929. I was never one to believe 1 party should have all 3 levels of power but this certainly makes me think twice, especially since I need my 401k to grow if I will ever get a chance to retire.
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Davwbaird
Brothers and sisters of the same mother
06:11 PM on 05/28/2012
if republicans control we will be knew deep in crap.
11:08 PM on 05/28/2012
300,671 divided by 10,000 is 30.0671. In 1929 $20 was an ounce of gold today it's $1573.90. $1573.90 divided by $20.00 is 78.695. Funny how you can make numbers say about anything you want. It just might take a wheelborrow full of money to buy a peanut butter sandwich. I will grant you this, you always gain a bigger check when the Democrats are in there playing with the money you just can't buy as much with it when they are done.
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Devil Dog 40
07:08 AM on 05/29/2012
The US came off the gold standard in 1933. Funny how the GOP always tries to throw something outside of the argument into the mix to explain away facts. I would argue the incredible pay inequality has led to the high prices low wages making it difficult to buy the same. That and the policies the GOP keeps pushing to weaken regulation making the same conditions that led up to the 1929 crash, fight clean energy to keep the US dependent on oil, weaken or kill unions to ensure they can push the lowest wage and pass legislation to make it more difficult for workers to fight back. The GOP is becoming the very tyrants the founding fathers desired to escape.
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4eva
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10:28 AM on 05/28/2012
Yes indeed, the 1% have done exceptionally well under Obama.
Is this the new campaign strategy?
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ritamary
03:48 AM on 05/29/2012
Yeah, it's called "biting the hand that feeds you" especially if the hand is black.
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MassWG
07:56 PM on 05/27/2012
"If you're so smart, why don't you know the difference between correlation and causation?" Maybe you need to be rich to figure that out. But wait a second... Grayson is worth about $30 million. Perhaps he should start talking about the 1% in the first person.
01:03 PM on 05/27/2012
Well Grayson, I was all for you after your lovely rant about Republicans view of health care, that is, just die, however you lost me by continuing to support Obama, whose policies amount to the same thing. Destroying Medicare, death panels, etc. Gee thanks...now I think both parties want to commit genocide against the elderly. So you can imagine how unimpressed I am by both corrupt parties. All you care about is providing welfare to health insurance companies as your health reform bill amply demonstrates. Oh I'm sorry, have you read it yet?
If you want to oppose the corrupt, inept Dembots currently destroying your party, you need to be a real opposition, not someone who waves his little arms and then votes along party lines. Remember McCain and how he crashed and burned trying to sell himself as a 'maverick' after voting along party lines. Phony baloney.
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Devil Dog 40
02:05 PM on 05/28/2012
Death panels, really- Like private insurance companies don't basically have them behind closed doors with no transparacy. The healthcare law is a huge mass of layers and that is how regulation starts. Then you implement and figure out what works and modify. What you do not do is whine about problems and take no action. And last, the Dems are turtles in the destruction pace of their party when compared to the GOP. I am not even sure it qualifies as a party anymore when the internal factions spend all their time trying to kill each other off. It sounds more like a civil war.
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Davwbaird
Brothers and sisters of the same mother
06:15 PM on 05/28/2012
Well know you are so out touch with facts you will hut yourself. Snide is so becoming.
12:57 PM on 05/27/2012
As Keynes believed, people who make the acquisition of money the primary goal of life are in fact nuts. It's an obsessive compulsive disorder, which combined with being a sociopath, add up to meganuts.
But thanks to the elimination of the Bretton Woods agreement, authored by Keynes, in the 70's, we now have a world run by these people for these people. Keynes came up with a wonderful compromise between capitalism and socialism, in order to preserve social well being and prevent the kind of predatory global situation we have now. Thus the era of prosperity with high wages, relative economic stability, high GDP we had from the late 40's to the 70's. It worked well for everyone except the sociopaths to they got rid of it. Read "Dark Ages America", a wonderful, easy to understand explanation of the cause and scope of our current situation, Pages 51-53 explain it quite clearly.
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Devil Dog 40
02:06 PM on 05/28/2012
You can't educate the right, they just lable any facts that don't support their agenda a liberal media bias.
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Wayne Caswell
Consumer Advocate & Founder of Modern Health Talk
10:11 AM on 05/27/2012
It's hard to ignore stats like that, even if they came from the Liberal media.
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laura r
09:15 PM on 05/28/2012
I think if you research the facts you will find that these status come from the the Stock Trader's Almanac;which slices and dices Wall Street performance figures like baseball stats, came up with nearly the same numbers (13.4 percent Democrates versus 8.1 percent Republicans) by measuring Dow price appreciation. (Most of the 20th century's bear markets, incidentally, have been Republican bear markets: It's the not liberal media.
10:02 AM on 05/27/2012
North Carolina is a good case study. Strategically bought and paid for, each election and promotional campaign adds up to being able to redistrict, control message, and control both the financial and social environment of an entire state. This is not news to the people in Wisconsin either. Mots of these wealthy power brokers do not want to live in the states they control either, and have no comment that in place such as NC, they are in the top 10 of welfare recipients. Any hypocrisy or paradox of message is ignored or shouted down. Why people continue to accept this as status quo is beyond me.
the pariah
Author of "The Lean Pocket Diet"
08:35 AM on 05/27/2012
This guy is pitiful. He could be Keith Olberman's twin brother. He has the nerve to call anyone dumb, even his own constituents couldn't stand him after two years. He is a 1%'er who drives a Mercedes-Benz and was the 11th richest member of Congress in 2010.
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Devil Dog 40
02:09 PM on 05/28/2012
You mean like Issa the Repub from CA who is the richest member of congress? And he was voted out in Florida, the state that has given us Allen West. Can't really hold it against the guy for getting voted out, it could be a sign of how smart he actually is considering the constituentcy.
10:52 PM on 05/28/2012
So you hate him because he is wealthy. Is that right?
the pariah
Author of "The Lean Pocket Diet"
08:53 AM on 05/29/2012
I never said I hated anyone so your attempt to put words in my mouth failed miserably. My point is that he is a hypocrite at every level and even his own neighbors saw through that it two short years.
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Danlar
it's fun to have fun but you have to know how
04:24 AM on 05/27/2012
I hope you get a radio or tv show soon...we need your voice out there......win Obama Florida please
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itruth
fideistic deist with socratic tedencies
10:42 PM on 05/26/2012
Why would someone spend hundreds of millions of dollars;for a job that pays 1/50th of what a CEO makes?
Do they think we don't notice the wheelbarrows of cash?Poor people have reason to be angry with this nonsense!
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William1950
everything I say could be wrong.
09:15 PM on 05/26/2012
also, there is an emerging movement afoot of citizens that are becoming aware of the manipulation of our financial system that has harmed most of us... and made immensely wealthy a few of us...
...... no, we are not against success... we are against theft.