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Sen. Bernie Sanders

Sen. Bernie Sanders

Posted: October 16, 2009 09:29 AM

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While markets surged past 10,000, the official unemployment rate stood near 10 percent. The United States is in a unique historical position. People on top are doing extraordinarily well, but in the real world the middle class is collapsing. The top 1 percent owns more wealth than the bottom 90 percent. CEOs of large corporations earn 400 times what their workers make. That is not what America is supposed to be about. With all the issues we are dealing with -- from health care to global warming to wars in Afghanistan and Iraq -- please do not forgot what is happening to tens of millions of our brothers and our sisters out there who are struggling hard to keep their heads above water.

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04:35 PM on 10/19/2009
The post I had wanted to post is too long and I will not cut it short.

Lyrics:
http://www.bobdylan.com/#/songs/rolling-stone

The song is copyrighted.

Even the revolutionaries are in it for the money.
10:36 AM on 10/19/2009
Sanders 2012!
09:26 AM on 10/19/2009
You tell 'em, Bernie. Socialismo o muerte!
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Levonsky
a fan of enlightened self interest
09:10 AM on 10/19/2009
Why is there no left wing movement in this country?
Because our leaders have all been either killed, jailed or harassed to the point of being driven underground.
Think I'm kidding? Look at COINTELPRO.
This was all according to plan.
Why do you think that John, Martin and Bobby were assassinated. It wasn't by chance.
03:33 PM on 10/18/2009
This is John Galt speaking. I guess it got out of control . . .
12:44 AM on 10/18/2009
Why on earth are you not fighting back? One of the reason for the powerlessnes of people like Obama and Sanders is, that there are no power base. Somebody has made you believe, that fighting for your rights as ordinary citizens together instead of alone is communism, and you believed the crap. The dismantling of the unions was probably the greatest, but not the only mistake by the middle class. The rich won because they made you think their way. You cannot change anything as individĂşals. It is like throwing pebble on a bulldozer.
Look at the last election. Just a little coopration gave victory to the most unlikely candidate. learn from that. The fight for a more just society will never be won if you don't join forces and then keep it up for the years to come. You don't win a war by winning one battle.
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MJinCanada
Safe from zombies until my 2nd cup of coffee
02:05 AM on 10/19/2009
Exactly. Throwing one pebble at bulldozer won't help -- but 500,000 people throwing a few each can bury it.
11:15 AM on 10/19/2009
Ditto.
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Jannsmoor
09:19 PM on 10/17/2009
People only have a choice between two options. Either government has power or big business has power. Whenever government deregulates, big business steps in to exploit and profit.

Our tea bagger friends have a visceral hatred of government. They are libertarians. Their view of society is akin to anarchy, where the rich and powerful run society according to their own rules.

We must find a way to bring the 'Beckers' to an understanding of the world that will result from their belief system, while simultaneously reining in corporate power.

Bernie is a breath of fresh air in a government that sold out the middle class since 1980.
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vippy
Carpe Diem!
08:59 PM on 10/17/2009
Per IRS Website back in 2003 only 1/5 of the taxes collected were from the rich. Again, the middle class cannot get ahead for we pay most of the taxes. The rich give to their own charities, hide their money in the many, many tax havens around the globe and re-invest. Yet, our congress knows this and always finds more ways to squeeze us even more. How much more can they squeeze. When their bad decisions leads to job losses it also affects their revenue, but no one holds them accountable, no, we vote for them again. I guess I really can't blame them for we need to look in the mirror and ask ourselves why take the beatings over and over again?
10:12 PM on 10/18/2009
What are you talking about? The data supports the opposite. Almost 50% of households this year will pay no income tax. That is, almost half put nothing into the pot, only taking out. Not good when the majority of the population can effectively vote to raid the treasury.
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MJinCanada
Safe from zombies until my 2nd cup of coffee
02:09 AM on 10/19/2009
They still pay taxes on stuff they buy, do they not?

And if they were getting decent wages, they would pay more tax.
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vippy
Carpe Diem!
05:39 AM on 10/19/2009
The average income is less than $ 50,000 so why do they have to pay all of the income tax?
Would make sense to go after the rich, their off-shore tax havens, etc. Make more money pay more taxes would make sense. But this is what you get - first you have to pay the people
in order to have a viable economy. Gone are the fulltime jobs, we replaced them with intermittent jobs in retail and food, which is a large segment of the population. They get 3 to 19 hours per week. Why shelf going after the tax cheats, makes no sense to me. And then with their bad decision don't you think they should have thought about not getting any revenue from taxes. And by the way, how come they keep finding money for this ridiculous war, which costs 3.6 billion a month. For whom do we fight this war?
07:47 PM on 10/17/2009
I am going to say something really cynical and then I'm going to bed.

The American middle class has been the worlds consumers for about 60 years. It's unsustainable. The middle class will not voluntarily cut down on it's over consumption of resources. It's obvious that consumerism has not made America a happy place. It would be nice if the government could try and ease the fall, but I think it will be up to individuals to create something new and potentially better for their friends and families.
07:01 PM on 10/17/2009
Keep going Bernie. Americans are listening more and more, and are ready to support any true leaders who are working toward making this country even more fair and good than it has been in the past (and a country that has one set of laws which apply to everybody).

Please get together with all the others of good will. There are people stepping up and speaking up for change from all sides of the political spectrum lately. We need to consolidate this nonpartisan movement for change in the areas we can agree upon, then hook it to both the grass roots and any good organizations that can be trusted. And we must work to identify and vote out all who stand in the way of positive change and replace them with real public servants.

The state legislatures should begin to organize a constitutional amendment that outlaws campaign donations and mandates publicly funded elections.
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SewaneeLeftist
I shall die but that is all I shall do for death
12:33 PM on 10/17/2009
Excellent article, Sen. Sanders.

A NYT Books column today examines F. Scott Fitzgerald saying, "the rich are different from us," and Hemingway answering, "yes, they have more money."

Generalizations are always tough. I know many rich people (I'm middle class). Some of them are the hardest workers I've ever met in my life and understand people from other classes and professions better than anyone. But all have blind spots about their wealth. Yes, they worked hard, for instance, but usually they began with advantages others didn't have, like educational opportunities, inherited wealth, or a family business.

The yawning gap between the rich and the poor that we have now is too great. It's dangerous for our society. We accept uncritically the individualist belief that everyone can get wealthy. We don't actually check to see if it's true. More often than not, it isn't possible in America now. The difference is so great between rich and poor that it's much more than that the rich have more money.

The Fitzgerald quotation that feels more germane to me about today's rich is Nick Carraway's description of a rich couple he knew:

"They were careless people, Tom and Daisy - they smashed up things and creatures and then retreated back into their money of their vast carelessness, or whatever it was that kept them together, and let other people clean up the mess they had made."
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capitaldysfunction
White male never voted Republican
08:13 PM on 10/19/2009
Upward social mobility, or the ability to improve one's social status, is more widespread in many European countries than in the United States.
09:31 AM on 10/17/2009
Our Founding Fathers are probably turning over in their graves at the sad state of affairs that our country is in right now.

I saw the mini-series of "John Adams" on HBO, and Bernie Sanders reminds me of John Adams. John Adams spent his whole life, even at the cost of his own family who he wouldn't see for years, trying to attain a better life for ALL Americans not just the wealthy. We need more men like Bernie Sanders in Congress.
08:53 AM on 10/17/2009
To the barricades!

Pitchforks and shovels!
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ZTB
08:44 AM on 10/17/2009
BernieSanders....the voice of commonSense, reasonAndTruth....
theVoice of thePeople....who definitely deserves a biggerPodium.
G_od love you bernie.
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Carl Caroli
I just don't understand people
08:16 AM on 10/17/2009
The top 1% could care less about the rest of us 99%ers. They live in their own protected world and gated community with no desire to to see, feel or share what the rest of us are going through. I'd venture to say that they're actually happier with fewer middle class folks crowding their favorite resorts, restaurants and entertainment facilities. They'd just as soon step on you rather than help you up.