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Rep. Earl Blumenauer

Rep. Earl Blumenauer

Posted March 18, 2009 | 07:30 PM (EST)

Taxing Bonuses: A Matter of Fundamental Fairness


Never since the Great Depression has the financial industry had less credibility than at this moment.  Since the beginning of this recession in December 2007, more than 3.6 million Americans have been added to the unemployment roles, and the losses of U.S. financial firms has totaled more that $700 billion. Yet as families have cut their spending to the bare necessities, financial firms, who have received more than $700 billion in federal bailout money under the Troubled Assets Relief Program (TARP), have handed out more than $18 billion in bonuses.

Giving out $18 billion in bonuses at a time when ordinary Americans have seen their life savings collapse is outrageous. To give out these bonuses using federal bailout money is over the edge. However, the financial barons of our day maintain that despite the nonexistent capital in their firms, they need to continue their extravagant practices. This is readily apparent in this week's announcement that AIG, who has received multiple federal bailouts, will be doling out an additional $165 million in bonuses paid for with taxpayer money, including millions to the idiots in the unit who drove the company to ruin. 

I don't buy the notion that they need lavish bonuses to keep the best and brightest. After what they have done to their companies, the economy and the savings of everyday Americans, we can't afford such brilliance. At AIG let them quit or fire them. It is hard to imagine who would do a worse job regardless of how much or little they were paid.  If they insist on enforcing contracts that reward reckless incompetence, which some claim they have a legal right to collect, then I say fine, let them collect it, but Congress has the right to tax it. 

For years the tax code around here has been tortured to reward people who need tax cuts absolutely the least. Hopefully we can use it this time to impose a little tax justice. I've signed on as a co-sponsor to a bill coming out of the Ways and Means Committee which will make it a federal law that all employees of companies collecting more than $5 billion in TARP funds, and earning more than $250,000 a year in gross salary will have to pay a 90% tax on any bonus money they receive.

At a minimum, AIG should be stopped -- and other firms that collect bailout money should be prohibited from issuing large cash bonuses. This is not about outrage; this is about taking action. The financial stability of our nation and our communities depends on reasonable use of taxpayer dollars. It is a matter of fundamental fairness to the American people that their hard-earned dollars are spent in a manner that will grow the entire economy, not just the bank accounts of these weasels that took our money on the guise that they would save our economic system.

Never since the Great Depression has the financial industry had less credibility than at this moment.  Since the beginning of this recession in December 2007, more than 3.6 million Americans have bee...
Never since the Great Depression has the financial industry had less credibility than at this moment.  Since the beginning of this recession in December 2007, more than 3.6 million Americans have bee...
 
 
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sarabono
Oldie but Goody
11:55 PM on 03/19/2009
I wonder if they are going after the FANNY MAY & FREDDIE MAC BONUSES. After all they have received 100 Billion so far with a promise of another 100 Billion if needed. How did this happen? Well, they bought up a substantial amount of Alt. A , Stated Income (Liar Loan) and Sub Prime Mortgages and in doing so facilitated the mortgage debacle. They were "nationalized" in September. Since that time they have lost another $50 Billion plus.

Why should folks at Fanny & Freddie have a salary greater than the President's and then receive fat retention bonuses on top of the salary?

http://blogs.abcnews.com/theworldnewser/2009/03/bonuses-fannie.html
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TANSTAAFL
09:57 AM on 03/20/2009
Any evidence other than a blog???
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Rimser
01:23 PM on 03/19/2009
Given the current unemployment numbers, I say forget these so-called retention bonuses. If these people want to continue working, they'll get over not getting their ridiculous bonus. If they want to take their dog-and-pony show on the road, tell them good luck. I mean, whose hiring these bozos now?
sarabono
Oldie but Goody
11:57 PM on 03/19/2009
Our Government - maybe? Check out Fanny May and Freddie Mac

http://blogs.abcnews.com/theworldnewser/2009/03/bonuses-fannie.html
01:18 PM on 03/19/2009
Our corporate media and the GOP is trying despartely to bring President Obama's approval rating down. Why would we believe these people now? They are gotten us into war, the have allowed corporates to do what ever they wanted with out any reporting, and the financial crisis. I just heard the GOP is going after Senator Dodd instead of Geither today.

By the way, did anyone see Mr. Libby's testimony yesterday? I did, however, our corporate media is not reporting the facts. So far, our corporate media and the GOP is reporting, AIG was loned $170 billion; however, according to Mr. Libby's testimony, AIG was loned $40 billion from the TARP and approximately $38 billion was loaned by the Federal Reserves. It appears, our corporate media and the GOP doesn't understand math or the difference between the Federal Reserve (Fed), a private institution, and the US Government. They keep blending to the two together when discussing the AIG loans. Mr. Liddy testified under oath, or we to believe our corporate media or the GOP who has not testified under oath. Listen to what he said:

http://cspan.org/Watch/watch.aspx?MediaId=HP-R-16523
01:00 PM on 03/19/2009
The people receiving these bonuses (which are retention and not performance) WILL be paying tax on them. To demand that they be taxed at some sudden idiotically high rate is inane and fundamentally unethical.

You sir are either uninformed about business or compeltely dishonest.

The fact that these people are now receiving death threats because of false information put about by you and your democratic colleagues in congress, as well as the president, is unconscionable.
Shame on you all.
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12:56 PM on 03/19/2009
This is no time to diddle-around with the tax codes, Rep. Blumenauer.

Just call a criminal a criminal and move on. Perhaps the RICO act can be applied.

When a financial company has issued trillions of dollars worth of securities that it knew or should have known to be worthless ...

... When a financial ratings company gave those securities an "AAA" rating ...

... When usury is not only rampant in this country but on the increase ...

... let us just say that "the power and the authority of the Congress of the United States is not a thing to be parleyed with." You represent, and defend, the collective interests of 305 million people (and that's just "here").
12:11 PM on 03/19/2009
Nice populism, Mr. Blumenauer. You are listening well to what the mob wants.
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12:09 PM on 03/19/2009
When it comes to these bonuses everyone in America is complicit. When times were good did anyone ever question why these Corporate bloodsuckers got bonuses. Considering the Salaries of most of these people and the fact that they use every kind of shenanigans to have the Corporation pick up the cost of their daily upkeep. Even to the point of not having to pay for a haircut or having their clothes drycleaned. It always struck me funny how diligently these people would go about not having to personally lay out any of their own cash for the ordinary things that the middle class or poor have to pay for every day. So if they don't have to use their own cars, or pay for these daily services what are they using all their wealth on? Then they have to get huge bonuses besides? Wow, It must be great to be the King (or Queen). Still we as Americans ignored this behavior for many years until now when we are finally willing to see it for what it truly is, excess and greed, at our expense. Maybe, and I do mean maybe we will have learned a lesson, that being to not accept things like this just because we have been convinced that it is the norm.
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12:59 PM on 03/19/2009
It's one thing to get a $1 million bonus. Lots of folks do that, and earn them.

It's quite another thing to proclaim that your company is bankrupt, that it is the end of the world as we know it, AND that oh-by-the-way we "need" to spend extravagantly upon ourselves.

Obviously, the fact that "it's outrageous" is BESIDE the point. The true point is, "you cannot be saying such a thing to me unless you were intentionally lying ... either now, or in the recent past, or both."

And, well, if you are lying to a Federal official ... that's a(nother) Felony, now isn't it?

F-E-L-O-N-Y ... what an interesting and promising word.
10:46 AM on 03/19/2009
Well, if I had just been forced into a position of owning 80% of a great big company that had lots of problems, I would say that I would want to make sure that the people that I now have working for me are the absolute best and brightest there are. I want to make sure my invested is returned to me. If that means that I have to pay to keep the good ones, and offer competitive wages to attract good ones, then I would be an idiot not to. What could be a better way to insure that AIG fails than to make it a toxic place to work if you have any expertise at all?
10:07 AM on 03/19/2009
Congressman, did you vote for TARP? Did you introduce an amendment to restrict or prohibit the use of TARP funds for bonuses?
08:08 AM on 03/19/2009
Looking past details, there is something wrong with the system and its ethical/moral basis. America portrays itself as a can-do country. That is not evident. There is little acceptance of responsibility in politics, business (or other places). Part of this may be the media. There is too much hyperventilating.

We need some spirit from AIG or other troubled firms. Everyone involved should sacrifice in proportion to their ability and work to turn things around. That should be publicly shown by attitude and actions.

For AIG that would be something like, "We screwed up. We learned and this won't recur. The company, from top down, will pull together to come back stronger than ever. Top management will work for $1 per year. Everyone else is taking pay cuts with no one making more than the Secretary of the Treasury. All expenses will be drastically cut - no fancy dinners, cheap travel (pool bonus miles for company use), inexpensive hotels, and brown bag lunches. Executives who have been making big bucks will show faith by investing 50% of their total wealth in AIG stock...... Etc."

Let's have some style here.
09:11 AM on 03/19/2009
that would happen if the government was not so willing to give money like a drunken sailor.
12:14 PM on 03/19/2009
Business does not work that way. Never has. I understand that idealists would like the whole world to be like them, but truth to be told, idealists also rarely succeed. Having said that... I happen to be an idealist with a streak that accepts reality for what it is.
02:01 AM on 03/19/2009
I am as outraged by the exhorbitant bonuses as the other posters but I'm concerned how a law effectively confiscating the bonuses can be reconciled with the constiutional prohibition against bills of attainder. Sorry for the legalese.
12:18 PM on 03/19/2009
It can't be. We are right now going down a slippery slope where populism will replace the rule of law. For the time being a lot of people will like it, but in a little while they will find out just how much of a disservice they will have done to themselves. The moral downfall of Rome did not happen in a day. It took a long chain of events where the leaders became corrupt, then the people became hungry, then their leaders satisfied their thirst for blood and then the people themselves became corrupt. We are in the phase where our leaders are learning to govern by throwing raw meat at the screaming masses. Watch for the next step.
12:10 AM on 03/19/2009
I suggest a new subject in american colleges: SHAME

In God we trust or in Devil we trust?
12:19 PM on 03/19/2009
Very few people seemed to have been ashamed about buying a house with no money down and on interest only. Care to discuss?
10:23 PM on 03/18/2009
So, how many of us who lost money from our retirement accounts, or lost our homes, or lost our jobs could have been rescued with that bailout money? And wouldn't that have made more sense?
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TANSTAAFL
08:11 AM on 03/19/2009
Shhh!!! You'll scare the mor-ons---er I mean the rightwingnutjobs!! Remember, socialism is only okay if it's done to make someone who's already REALLY REALLY REALLY rich, richer!!
09:14 AM on 03/19/2009
neither makes any sense....so it is irrelevant which one makes more sense
08:48 PM on 03/18/2009
Fire the entire top 10% of AIG NOW.

I read somewhere in some self-important business book or article, that it is healthy for companies to be constantly shedding the worst 10% of their work force - the "bottom 10%." Isn't it convenient how prevailing economic theory always serves the interest of the affluent, the empowered at the expense of the powerless?

Well, that worst 10% of companies happens to be at the top of corporate ladders right about now...

Fire them! and not just the top 10% of AIG. How about the top 10% of every single bank, investment bank, brokerage, insurance company, auto company, construction company, real estate developer, defense contractor... and on down the line. They aren't needed. They are taking the rest of us down.

Fire them! Fire them! No bonuses...
09:29 AM on 03/19/2009
i am taking a bonus this year as i do every year......... my company has not taken a bailout.......so good luck with stopping my bonus.......or firing me......laughing....i take my bonuses in dividends...i take dividends to avoid unemployment tax, worker comp and my share of the social security and the company side of the social security......
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12:17 PM on 03/19/2009
Bob4,

You should also have mentioned how the Corporations and the Republicans have worked consistently to destroy the Unions. Other than friendly Liberal/ Democrat Governments that have sought to protect the working rights of Ordinary Americans, we have nothing else to guarantee those rights. Americans need to get a grip and support not help to destroy the Unions simply because they aren't members of a union. When Ordinary Americans, even in subtle ways assist the Corporations in destroying Unions they don't realize it but they are also hurting themselves. Remember the old adage, "In Unity their is Strength". Unions are Unity. They are a means for the average citizen to protect themselves against the rapacious behavior of the Corporate wealthy elite.
12:52 PM on 03/19/2009
Unions don't work and here's why. Their products and services cost too much for an ordinary working person to purchase. This is why I can't buy a GM car! Unions are good for the people working within them, but they are horrible for the consumer, unless the consumer is a union worker. I guess if every single person within the USA belonged to a union, then we'd be able to afford to buy products and services because they would have come from another union. But I get dizzy thinking about this oxymoron.
08:47 PM on 03/18/2009
Two additional points on the AIG bonuses:

1. Short-notice of bonus payments implies wrong-doing in itself?
2. Ethical grounds exist for canceling bonuses and firing?

1. Why do we have to find out about bonuses not being able to be stopped only days before their due date of March 15th?... Possession is nine tenths of the law. Does not the very nature of the short-notice imply wrong-doing by making it a fait accompli before enough time was given to figure out how to stop them because of the obvious justification to stop them?

2. Are there not grounds to cancel bonuses and fire
those so called ?in-expendable? people for having
broken ethical standards?

The sum total of their activity was woefully
irresponsible, dangerous, and has caused countless
suffering and financial ruin and threatens the very
security of the country if not a good part of the
entire world. For that reason alone they should be
fired on the spot. As should be the people who
hired them, and the people who are trying to
defend them now.

Is not breaking the spirit of ethical standards
grounds for dismissal in most companies?
12:26 PM on 03/19/2009
"Is not breaking the spirit of ethical standards
grounds for dismissal in most companies?"

No. Breaking the law is. Breaking the spirits of anything isn't. You can be an a-hole all day long and get away with it just fine.