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I Want Congress to Participate in an Iran War Game


Too many times today, we hear the American people and politicians say about the Iraq war, "If I only knew then what I know now I would have not supported it, or demanded more information and assurances beforehand."

This is precisely why I think that Members of Congress- with the American people watching on television -- should participate in an Iran war game. We don't have to be in the dark again like we were in Iraq. We can participate in an Iran war game that objectively and accurately examines the casualties, consequences and outcomes of a possible military strike against Iran.

The Pentagon conducts war games all the time to assess a war scenario. Since the Constitution vests in the Congress the power to declare war, I think it is imperative for members of Congress to openly participate in a war game exercise to consider the range of realistic alternatives. Here are some of the questions a war game would consider:

How many dead? How many wounded? How much destruction? Would we pulverize Iranian targets with bunker buster bombs? Could a U.S. military strike against Iran metastasize like a malignant cancer into a wider Mideast war? What provocation could cause the president to order a strike?

From information gathering to decision making, we can do this openly and honestly. I know it can be done because I have met and spoken with people who can do it. These are recently retired, high-level CIA intelligence officers and a retired Air Force Colonel who used to conduct war games inside the Pentagon. In recent months I have met with these people in groups on several occasions, and they even shared a plan of how to go about staging such an exercise. In other words, the people who can do it and a plan have already been identified.

Conducting an Iran war game out in the open, with the American people watching, guarantees a fair, accurate and honest assessment. The people have a right to know, and an Iran war game is a realistic way to address the possible outcomes of a military strike against Iran. At least that is what I think. I want my colleagues on both sides of the aisle to join me on this issue, and I hope that the American people and media will strongly support this proposal.

Now it is your turn. Tell me -- and everyone on Huffington Post-- what you think about this idea. Would you support it? If so, can we get Congress to support it? I look forward to your responses.

 
 
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NickHP
engineer, human, humane
12:52 AM on 11/11/2007
Oh, and let's invite some Iranians to participate in the simulation. Why not, someone needs to talk with them.

Simulations are cheap, and they can lead to at least some insight into what misery the administration may try to involve us in.
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NickHP
engineer, human, humane
12:46 AM on 11/11/2007
Congressman Jim McDermott

Dear Sir:

Please stage the war game online, for all to see. Keep an assessment, and tally the costs. Even if the Congress won't do it. For that matter, can't you reserve a large room for your own purposes and sponsor such an event, even without 'approval'?

I would attend the online version. The Huffington Post would probably follow it as well.

Post the discussion, maybe a video on C-SPAN. We are rational beings living in a technologically capable society. Let's do it without formal 'permission'. Just because we are sentient human beings capable of our own thoughts.

Nick Radonic
Maryland
11:05 PM on 11/10/2007
No war games are required to resolve the following very simple question: how is it possible for the war-mongers in DC, and the
media to scare the day lights out of the public by mentioning the name of the latest
bogeyman Iran? What danger a puny country
like Iran can possibly pose to a mighty super power like USA?
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LiarLiarIraqsOnFire
09:11 PM on 11/10/2007
F#@K THE WAR GAMES - I THINK WE OUGHT TO SEND THE WHOLE LOT OF YOU TO NAJAF & FALUJA AND TAKE THE STATE DEPT. HIGHER-UPS & THE CABINET WITH YOU. -- YOU CAN DEPLOY INSTEAD OF THE INDIANA NATIONAL GUARD GOING AGAIN!
06:26 PM on 11/10/2007
Now back to the war game, sure we can annihilate Iran killing lots and they will certainly wreak havoc in asymmetrical manner. As they fully admit that they can not withstand conventionally. I can not tell how big this fiasco will be but definitely would not make any American within the galaxy safer. Not selling our ports to Dubai will make us safer.
Now I have a game in mind with consequences that would not involve one drop of our brave soldiers’ blood. Here is the scenario, instead of demonizing Iran and comparing Ahmadinejad to Hitler (I could write on and on about how stupid of a comparison that is), we start supporting the cause of the Iranian people. How about some media coverage on the leaders of the unions in Iran that are being tortured and jailed. How about treatment of political dissident and civil rights groups, how about the women’s movement in Iran. Let us expose the regime of how brutal it is to its own people. Let’s not forget how Rumsfeld shoved every weapon in inventory into Saddam's pockets to kill Iranians and Kurds in the 80’s. While us along with Europe and the arab countries watched in silence. Let us not help the wrong cause again.
06:25 PM on 11/10/2007
These arguments that I make, to due justice, would take a lot more writing. The basic point is this.
The Iranian people have suffered in the name of islam more than anyone else. The first was in the seventh century and then in 1978. They are to this day being oppressed by fundamentalist rulers that want to erase their Persian culture and replace with islam. The arab world would love that, as Persian culture has greatly influenced the region. This is something Persians are very proud of but arabs would love to see destroyed. By dropping bombs on those people, we will do the opposite of what we desire in the end. The Iranians will further distrust America as they see us in bed with the Saudis who are the biggest contributors to terrorists from Iraq to Afghanistan. The rest of the muslim world will further hate us.
05:37 PM on 11/10/2007
I want every damn member of C.S Congress to pick up a gun and go see what hell is really like. Iraq would be fine. And be sure to take the Pinky and the Brain with them. one month in combat that is all I ask.
04:37 PM on 11/10/2007
Do they know how to play a war game? If they did they would be able to project to the end different ways of outcome without opening the box. That is why Iraq has been such a mess as those who had the ability to do the projections where never listened to before the invasion. Rummie had all he thought he needed and cheney was seeing flowers flying, not bullets and bombs. We had people at the top willing to go play war with our own soldiers and their lives were not considered.Rummies words of "you go to war with what you have not what you want to have" shows just how little thought went into the war and what the outcome would be. Congress gave the go ahead for what they thought was just serious hard ball with Saddam to keep him inline while being lied to. Congress signed on the line to give bush and cheney and all the ducks they had lined up the go ahead and he took it without hesitation. Now we stand in a spot that could have every soldier in Iraq killed along with Iraqis just as a start to retaliate on any action from bush/cheney (I doubt any or many would agree to war from congress or on the street in the US) it would be just them as they have the red button to push to start the whole thing from the comfort of their office. Then Putin would stand with them and the have the real deal aimed at us now. World War III bush has already used those words and he would like to be the war president in the history books if anyone survives to write those books. Congress has already let bush/cheney open the war door and only if the repubs in congress decided to grow some brains and would send the complete message of no war unless declared for real by congress. No game will stop this a united congress could.
04:36 PM on 11/10/2007
THANK YOU, Mr. McDermott, for co-sponsoring H.Res. 333 to impeach Cheney! You obviously know what needs to be done.

I find your idea intriguing. As long as we all equate secret knowledge with power, full disclosure will not be welcomed by a public who fears abuse by "our enemies." But having Congress participate in war games and publishing only the results, not the details, should be possible. As someone posted earlier, the Iraq war game was conducted in 1999 (http://www.gwu.edu/~nsarchiv/NSAEBB/NSAEBB207/index.htm), but not widely publicized. If the results of this exercise had been common knowledge by 2002, Americans wouldn't have been tricked into supporting the war.

"Post-Saddam Iraq: The War Game" and the documents referenced at the above web site should be added to Mr. Kucinich's resolution to be studied by the House Judiciary Committee.
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Kungfublood
02:26 PM on 11/10/2007
Great idea but only effective if they use live uranium munitions ,receive the same kind of unknown injections of experimental drugs with out their knowledge and experience the same fear of rape from their comrades in arms- just like real U.S. troops do every day.
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BlackWidowPilot
"Fu! Rin! Ka! Zan!"
01:04 PM on 11/10/2007
My Fellow Americans,

I've a modest proposal. Seeing how there are 535 members of Congress, lets draft them in to their own unit. We'll exempt those members that have voted CONSISTENTLY against the Iraq debacle. The remainder will be issued standard small arms, faulty body armour, and unarmoured Humvees. After six weeks of basic training, this new "1st Congressional Volunteer Brigade" will then be deployed to the hottest war zone in Iraq for immediate combat patrol duty, including sniper sweeps, IED search and removal, and etc.

Video cameras will be attached to the helmets of all of the participants, and will also be fitted to the Humvees as well. Meals will be provided by KBR. Medical care (as needed) by the VA. The brigade's official motto will be "Ave, Caesar!"

After six months, we'll assess the results of the experiment.

Leland R. Erickson
Citizen
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studioh!
just.words.
12:23 PM on 11/10/2007
The problem with this plan is the title - GAME!
Unfortunately the administration plays 'games' with every crucial problem, and with lives, and this should be serious business. I agree on out-in-the-open discussions, which are not the norm in DC, but please - no more GAMES!
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Steamboater
Forget hope. Agitate.
12:04 PM on 11/10/2007
War with Iran would require a draft. Fat chance at succeeding with that. We haven't seen chaos in our streets over the war in Iraq but institute a draft and rev up the fire engines.
If anyone thinks a limited strike against the Iranians is all that's needed you're delusional. The Iraqies didn't have a conventional army qualified to fight back; the Iranians do. You'd not only set off terrorist activities all over Europe but here as well. Forget Pakistan. If she's not already lost to us, an attack on Iran will guarantee it.
The arab world is already paranoid that we're at war with their religion; attack Iran and there's their proof.
Lastly, If McDermott is so convinced a public display of war planning is acceptable then he better get ready to plan to buy a hell of a lot of cameras because the public will demand to see photos we're not allowed to see now--the returning flag-draped coffins of American dead. So much for McDermott's plans for war.
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Steamboater
Forget hope. Agitate.
11:45 AM on 11/10/2007
If you must go for it, keep it out of public view because no matter what you come up with it's bound to be wrong. The military always says they can fairly predict the outcome of war and yet look at Vietnam; look at Iraq! No one, not even the military, could have predicted the length of our involvement in Iraq nor the amount of American and Iraqi civilian deaths there. No one could have predicted that this war was lost the very first day an American soldier stepped foot in Baghdad, our failure in Afghanistan plus the upheaval in Pakistan etc--unless one opened a history book which no one bothered to read.
To plan publicly for war with Iran and the resulting casualties etc is about as irresponsible as Bush's saber rattling with that country too. Have something against peace McDermott? Instead of planning for war, plan for peace. Plan precisely about how you would go about talking--directly talking to the Iranians--and what you would say to them so as to resolve issues with them. Neo-Cons want war; democrats and independents don't. Bad idea McDermott--very bad idea to go about with this war plan of yours.
11:36 AM on 11/10/2007
I was involved in a real war game in 1967 up on the Chech border while stationed in Germany. After playing the game for several days, our commanding general came in and said..."quit worrying, we're all dead". Later, I was able to participate in a real war in Vietnam and, I must say, the game was much more fun than the real thing. What if a majority of your informed Members of Congress think that this new game came out well enough and we should attack Iran?

You listed the usual stuff, but I think part of your game fun should be how to control the riots in our streets and what to do with the armed insurrection that may break out in America. Be sure to include all of the contingency plans, not just war-fighting stuff: gasoline and food shortages, a revolt in the military from fatigue and worring about their families, financial collapse on a world-wide scale, a possible nuclear response from Pakistan, American industry grinding to a halt from lack of petroleum and how to control our own home-grown lunatics. By the way, to make the game seem real, you will need to drag out all of the secret stuff you use for justification so the paranoia can be shared equally. Thanks for the opportunity to respond to your question before this type of discourse is no longer allowed. Peace!