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Cut Oil Subsidies, Not Jobs

Posted: 01/10/2013 12:20 pm

Last week, I said that if Congress has to make cuts, we should embrace the idea of ridding ourselves of wasteful giveaways to the fossil fuel industry. Here's an idea. Let's cut the Master Limited Partnership loophole and fossil fuel subsidies.

The Master Limited Partnership is an obscure but harmful multibillion dollar loophole that allows fossil fuel companies to avoid all income taxes on transportation or processing of fossil fuels -- things like oil pipelines. Renewable energy companies don't have the same option, meaning the taxpayer is subsidizing polluters at the expense of cleaner, renewable energy. The total cost to the taxpayer? $2.4 billion dollars every 5 years. Now, some folks propose to extend the Master Limited Partnership to green industries. That's fine, but what about leveling the playing field and cutting the deficit at the same?

The Master Limited Partnership is just one example of the billions of dollars in handouts that polluters get from Congress. For instance, BP was able to deduct nearly $10 billion from cleaning up its own mess in the Gulf of Mexico. Over the next 10 years, fossil fuel companies will receive over $110 billion in taxpayer giveaways. Ending these subsidies would recoup the $12 billion fossil fuel companies will be able to deduct by claiming they are manufacturers, and the almost $11 billion we will lose from free leases to drill on public land.

With all the chatter in Washington, it is easy to miss what is really at stake. The debate is about our country's future; it's about fairness; it's about whether we invest in jobs or tax breaks for hedge fund managers, polluters and already profitable industries. It's about whether we level the playing field for sustainable energy or continue to give unnecessary and harmful tax breaks to oil companies who have been making record profits -- and not paying their fair share.

It's time for Republicans in Congress to put their money where their mouth is. Middle class families should not be forced to scrape by with less while oil companies get away with more. Any cuts we make should reflect our priorities and needs as a country. Rather than cutting important lifelines like Medicare, Medicaid and Social Security, let's cut corporate tax loopholes like the Master Limited Partnership.. The five largest oil companies made more than $1 trillion in profits in the last decade. They don't need our help.

UPDATE: Many of you asked how we can end wasteful tax breaks like the Master Limited Partnership. I introduced a bill with Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-VT). You can find out more here.

 

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Last week, I said that if Congress has to make cuts, we should embrace the idea of ridding ourselves of wasteful giveaways to the fossil fuel industry. Here's an idea. Let's cut the Master Limited Par...
Last week, I said that if Congress has to make cuts, we should embrace the idea of ridding ourselves of wasteful giveaways to the fossil fuel industry. Here's an idea. Let's cut the Master Limited Par...
 
 
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ipso phakto
Nothing is stopping you.
04:18 AM on 02/27/2013
The false narrative about "oil subsidies" needs to be squashed. There are no oil subsidies, period. There are no government checks going to oil companies.

All businesses deduct costs from revenue to arrive at profits. Deductions taken by oil companies are no different than any other business deducting the cost of producing their goods or services. In fact, oil companies often endure arbitrary discrimination in the tax code - as the target of misguided politicians like Mr. Ellison.

Oil companies pay more in taxes than they make in profits. Ellison is off the rails with his absurd rant, just like his implosion on Hannity last night.
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Hoosier 77
AIRCRAP dot ORG
03:50 PM on 01/12/2013
http://ascr-discovery.science.doe.gov/bigiron/lithium_print.html

ASCR DISCOVERY – Big Iron Story
Air-breathing batteries could fuel electric cars

Posted October 13, 2011
The target: lithium-air batteries, with a projected energy density per unit of weight that’s five to 10 times that of lithium-ion technology. “Understanding the Ultimate Battery Chemistry: Rechargeable Lithium/Air” has 15 million processor hours on Intrepid, the IBM Blue Gene/P at Argonne National Laboratory (ANL) and 10 million on ORNL’s Jaguar, a Cray XT. That’s on top of a 24 million-hour allocation in 2010. Collaborators include researchers at both labs, at IBM, and at Vanderbilt University.

Lithium-air’s prospects as the ultimate battery have drawn plenty of attention, Wilcke says. In 2009, when IBM held a meeting to examine the issues, only a handful of research groups focused on lithium-air. “Now, I’ve lost track. It’s probably more than 50 organizations working on it worldwide.”

Translating formulae into reality isn’t easy, and the INCITE project already has challenged some of the conventional thinking.
Genders
Love, Tolerance, Enlightenment
07:54 PM on 01/13/2013
That would be great. Let's hope.
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Zariana
For SCIENCE!!!
10:08 PM on 01/11/2013
A level playing field is a great idea. Why not apply the same tax code to all businesses equally?

Unfortunately, since oil companies pay a higher effective tax rate than the average of all other industries, and lower tax deductions for capital investment than others pay, that would mean lowering their tax burden.

Mr. Ellison--let's talk about GE.
Genders
Love, Tolerance, Enlightenment
07:58 PM on 01/13/2013
nonsense.

Fossils get 500M$ in breaks per year per GW.

I'm sure your tax number is very clever spin by really smart folks, but it's still bs.

Fossils and nukes get 10-100 times the total breaks that solar wind and waste get.  subsidies provided to producers of fossil fuels may be on the order of US$
100 billion per year (GSI, 2009). http://www.iea.org/weo/docs/G20_Subsidy_Joint_Report.pdf 

Did you include the wars for oil in your calculations?

Solar panels are 1/5th the cost of the fossils fuels needed to produce the same KWH, and waiegh just 1/1000th as much.

the solar panels can be recycled forever.

You need to keep digging up the fossils.

Obviously only major gov break keep fossils and nukes alive at all.

In the USA, gov fee are now half the cost of installed solar.

So get it straight: The playing field is tilted towards fossils and nukes at an angle about about 10 to 1.
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02:18 PM on 01/11/2013
"The five largest oil companies made more than $1 trillion in profits in the last decade. They don't need our help." The MLP does not apply to the five largest oil companies. It is, by definition, a type of partnership - NOT a corporation. The implication that the MLP is a subsidy to corporations is simply wrong.
Genders
Love, Tolerance, Enlightenment
08:00 PM on 01/13/2013
You mean an accounting trick?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Master_limited_partnership

You are wrong.

It IS used by the the extraction industry primarily.
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MrBIgp
If I'm wrong, please show me
10:14 PM on 01/13/2013
Give me a real world example where one of the big 5 oil companies benefits from an MLP. 
12:35 PM on 01/11/2013
Cutting oil subsidies may help the deficit but the companies will just pass the extra expense onto the end user. That would be the average american that drives a car and other industries that rely on oil and gas products either for production or transportation costs. The cost of natural gas heating and gas generated electricity would go up. Oil and Gas companies watch their bottom line carefully. It will almost always stay the same (if not get bigger as per their business model). If they lose the subsidy from the government they'll hit everyone else at the pump.
The other thing Oil and gas companies may do if it is too expensive to run a business in America is scale back there, and amp up production in other countries, further weakening that part of the American economy.
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huffington1z
04:33 PM on 01/11/2013
You are exactly correct. This would be another tax on the middle class, in essence. BUT THE DEMS CARE! And for all you low information (no information) types on this site, governments make WAY more money than the oil companies. They don't invest money, they just collect. Money that YOU were charged for. But they do this also because they care.
Genders
Love, Tolerance, Enlightenment
08:03 PM on 01/13/2013
No, solar wind and waste are cheaper than fossils or nukes.

Only 500M$ in taxpayer breaks to fossil and nukes, per year per GW, 100B$ per year USA, let them even compete.

The proper solution is feed in tariffs to the clean producers and help for the users.

Cut all breaks to fossils and nukes, give them all to solar wind and waste.

Clean safe 24/7 using existing fossils generators with clean waste bio char fuels, forever.

Did I mention cheaper?

Solar panels at 50 cent per Wp are now 1/5th the cost of fossils fuels for the same KWH produced.

do the math.
08:24 AM on 01/11/2013
The five major oil companies made over a trillion dollars in profit over the last ten years, eh? You say that with such disdain as if it were just 5 guys. But it is not. Where does that profit go? It is millions and millions of shareholders, scientists, charities, researchers, etc.
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OHexpat12
03:02 AM on 01/11/2013
Kieth-- if you were in my district I'd vote for you and be at your campaign office helping out. As it is I've got a great Senator in Ohio (not that Wall Street buddy, Portman mind you). Maybe the Progressive Caucus can move on this oil subsidy thing this year. Obama promised it in 2008 and we are still waiting.
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artleads
Let's have a national retreat.
12:51 AM on 01/11/2013
A welcome move. Thank you, Mr. Ellison.
09:49 PM on 01/10/2013
When middle case families start funding elections they'll finally get a fair shake. Until that time, to the victor go the spoils. All elections should be public funded and campaign contributions (bribes) should be outlawed. Corporations are not voting citizens and should have no influence in our elections. The United States of America is NOT a corporate country club.
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BluePhantom2
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08:19 PM on 01/10/2013
Let's end all subsidy on energy production so it fair?
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Allene Stucki
07:23 PM on 01/10/2013
Yeah, by all means, raise taxes on oil companies. They wouldn't even care, they just add it to the price we pay at the pump, same as thy already do with the the taxes they currently pay.
09:50 PM on 01/10/2013
How about we end subsidies and fix the price?
07:40 AM on 01/11/2013
You don't remember 1979 do you? Gasoline price controls led to rationing, long gas lines, and black market activity. It was a complete disaster.
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Zilo
Indie--The GOP opposes critical thinking
09:11 AM on 01/11/2013
Oil companies should not get special consideration. No company should. To give companies special considerations, to subsidize them in the various ways we do is to work against capitalism.

If other companies have to pay those taxes, then so should the oil companies. Otherwise, cut the taxes entirely and level the playing field for *all* forms of energy so they have to compete.
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05:57 PM on 01/10/2013
In 2011, the Republicans filibustered to prevent the 59 Democrat/Independent majority from passing legislation which would have ended the Big Oil subsidies.

In 2013, if the Democrats can reform the Senate filibuster rules, it is possible that a budget/fiscal cliff/debt ceiling deal could be passed by simple Senate majority (with 53 Democrats and 1 Independent) which finally ends the Big Oil subsidies.

ONLY if the Senate can reform its filibuster rules will anything be achieved in the Senate. Ending subsidies has already been designated as NOT a tax increase by the GOP de facto leader, Grover Norquist, so Republicans in the House cannot pretend their anti-tax philosophy prevents them from supporting an end to the Big Oil subsidies. Of course, that's never before stopped the Tea Party-GOP from being delusional and still trying to stem the tide of public opposition to these subsidies.
01:19 PM on 01/10/2013
Keith, you might want to go back to 2009-2010 when the Democrats had full control. The House, Senate, and Presidency. You brought up this job killing stuff before and we actually thought you might do something so we cautioned our clients that they may loose some of their tax benefits in their drilling programs.

But you guys killed it! The states love the taxes and revenues they collect from drilling activity. They also love the jobs that we create - actual, real jobs, alot of them in poor regions of the country. Jobs: welders, truckdrivers, steel companies, pipelines, refineries, drilling crews, stores and restaurants. Democrats represent the people of their districts and by voting to curtail economic activity they would only be harming themselves by making their districts poorer.

Not much oil and gas drilling activity up there in Minnesota though so it's easier for you to 'take a stand' and vote against peoples jobs in other states.
pssdov
No act of kindness goes unnoticed
04:48 PM on 01/10/2013
You might want to educate yourself in a couple of ways. First, look at a factual timeline about how long the Democrats actually had 'full control' of all 3 branches. It was very brief in reality. Second, who killed what? The GOP filibustered or sat on every meaningful bill presented in Congress, just to make Obama "a one term president." They could care less about the welfare of the country, and that's why they got beat in the elections. Third, you don't explain why oil companies should get any subsidy when they're raking in record profits, or why cutting those subsidies would hurt jobs anywhere. Fourth, whatever business your in, your "clients" would probably be impressed with proper spelling. It's 'lose', not 'loose'; 'a lot', not 'alot.'
08:42 PM on 01/10/2013
OK apparently Obama lacked three votes in the senate to have the full 60 votes. You would think if he was a good politician he could have come up with votes he needed. Apparently dealing with energy wasn't that important to him. By the time the fed and state governments get done taxing the oil industry they make more money than the oil companies on each gallon of gasoline sold in some cases. third) they create actual jobs and wealth and revenue in the states which they operate. Why did Obama just agree to subsidies for Hollywood and Nascar? So a bunch of id*iots can be 'entertained' in guess.

fourth)My clients hire me to make them money and represent them. I do appreciate the spelling and puctuation lesson. My assistant takes care of correspondence. Thank you for the good conversation.
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huffington1z
04:40 PM on 01/11/2013
The smartest president ever? You dolts, there is no dem / rep. Corrupt politicians splitting the spoils. Just to help you out a little, name a single Washington politician, over the last 30 years, that didn't want the southern border secured. 30 years, complete "bi-partisan" agreement but the border is still unsecure. Latest report, 39% get across. If you believe any of the lies coming out of either party you should not be allowed to vote nor have children.
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ez14livin
05:01 PM on 01/10/2013
so we can assume you will never make any posts about 47% who pay no federal tax?

or that there are lazy people who don't have jobs cause its their own fault?

or that we have a "spending" problem not a "revenue" problem?

mr ellison is my rep and i would take him over shelly blachmann anyday...

although you probably like her for her american ingenuity in acquiring lots of subsidies
05:42 PM on 01/10/2013
My post was to illustrate the hypocrasy of the democrats. They are always yapping about coming down on oil companies tax breaks etc. When they had the chance to actually do something they chose not to. I have no idea where you are going with your 47% lazy people that pay no taxes rant. It is completely off topic.