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Attorney General Eric Holder Has Been 'Stopped and Frisked'

Posted: 06/20/2012 2:50 pm

The politics of politics. Chair of the House Oversight and Government Reform Committee, Republican Rep. Darrell Issa, has just pressed ahead with contempt charges against Attorney General Eric Holder. Attempting to argue that AG Holder somehow withheld information with regards to the Fast and Furious case, Issa has engaged in a political witch hunt that proves only one thing: the hypocrisy of GOP members for personal and Party benefit.

The highest officer of law and order in this nation has been ridiculed, scapegoated and handled as some sort of criminal throughout this 'investigation.' Turning over thousands of documents and overextending himself, AG Holder was spoken to and mistreated as if he were a child, and reminded that despite his esteemed position, he can and would be profiled. AG Holder was in essence 'stopped & frisked' without probable cause, and after he cooperated, he was made an example of. What Issa just showed us is that no matter what our stature in this world, someone can easily try to 'put us in our place.' What could be more outrageous?

First things first, let's remember that Fast and Furious was created under the Bush Administration. While Republicans are busy denouncing the practice for its flaws, they fail to mention that AG Holder was the one who ended the program. Since the so-called investigation (a.k.a. witch hunt) began, the Justice Department has handed over more than 140,000 documents, 7,600 pages and participated in 8 hearings before Congress. Not only did Issa and his counterparts never go after previous attorneys general or the Bush Administration itself, but they continue to treat AG Holder as if he is indeed guilty of the most egregious crime. It is the same sort of tactic we see utilized against the hundreds of thousands of innocent individuals stopped and searched by police. They have no weapon, haven't committed an offense, yet somehow 'appear' as a culprit.

As I marched this past Sunday with tens of thousands in New York in opposition to the abhorrent practice of stop & frisk,' I couldn't help but think of our attorney general. Tattered down and publicly humiliated, AG Holder has been mishandled just like the young Black and Latino men (and women) who are demonized on our streets everyday. Chris Matthews of Hardball on MSNBC concurred: AG Holder is being profiled, stopped and searched. Where was Issa's government reform when the ATF gun program began in '06 under the Bush Administration and was called Operation Wide Receiver? Or when it was the Hernandez case in '07? Or the Mendrano case in '08? Why hasn't anyone from the previous administration been held accountable? Why is it only this AG a few months before election time? The answer is glaringly obvious.

The American people should be very clear as to what they are watching. At a time when we have an endless number of questions concerning high violence rates, oppressive voter ID laws and voter suppression tactics, as well as other serious life and death questions, Issa and others would rather play a game of politics. Have there been mistakes made under AG Holder's watch? Yes. But was he responsible for creating the Fast & Furious program, or has he been non-cooperative? No. Is he being unfairly targeted and dragged through the mud as a method of delay from other pressing issues? Undoubtedly for sure.

We, the voting public will not be fooled. Instead of resolving some of this country's dire challenges like high unemployment rates, foreclosure rates, struggling educational system and more, these politicians would rather waste time creating hysteria. And instead of representing the interests of the American people, these GOP officials are once again playing games at a time when we need real leadership. It's a good thing the citizens of this nation know the difference between politics and due process.

 

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01:00 AM on 08/16/2012
This discussion has been totally derailed. Let's get one thing straight: the committee has a clearly defined mission.
I quote:
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We exist to secure two fundamental principles. First, Americans have a right to know that the money Washington takes from them is well spent. And second, Americans deserve an efficient, effective government that works for them. Our duty on the Oversight and Government Reform Committee is to protect these rights.

Our solemn responsibility is to hold government accountable to taxpayers, because taxpayers have a right to know what they get from their government. We will work tirelessly, in partnership with citizen-watchdogs, to deliver the facts to the American people and bring genuine reform to the federal bureaucracy.

This is the mission of the Oversight and Government Reform Committee.
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Source: http://oversight.house.gov/about-the-watchdogs/

Nothing about judging the last government - this is not their job. If the Bush administration didn't get the same treatment - tough - take it up with the previous chairman.

What is their job, though, is investigating the corruption, waste and abuse of the power of the current government, which is exactly what they are doing. They would, in fact, be derelict of their duty if they'd dropped the case, even if it might make somebody look bad.

I'd also like to remind you that the US Attorney General has clearly demonstrated that his integrity might be seriously compromised. You'd tolerate that from the person in charge of the FRIKKIN' JUSTICE system???
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mero909
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03:56 PM on 06/26/2012
Let's not forget the fact that our federal government sold weapons to drug runners. That's a major blunder.
03:10 PM on 06/25/2012
Of course if Holder were white and serving under a Republican President you'd be calling for his head.

Let's review the Fast And Furious program and correct some of your obvious.....errrors?

Operation Wide Reciever started under the Bush Administration. The guns were tracked and when they were entering Mexico the Mexican police were involved. The guns were not simply allowed to disappear. The program ended when the Mexicans were found to be incompetent.
Fast And Furious was a complete failure and no attempt was ever made to follow the guns into Mexico. The Mexican police were never notified or included in the investigation. The guns simply disappeared once they crossed the border and were never found unless they were recovered from a crime scene.
An estimated 2000 guns "Walked." At least 2 US law enforcement offcers were killed and 200 others. The program ended when BATF whistleblowers started talking about this failure and they have been harrassed for following their conscience and reporting this incompetence.
No one has been fired for this program. No one in authority has been charged. A few have been reassigned and actuallly promoted.
If Holder didn't know about it then he's either incompetent or he's lying to us. No one has been punished, fired, charged, etc. Who is he protecting?
Himself
BTW, I've seen the hearings. The Justice Dept documents often consisted of binder after binder of blacked out pages. He's given them everything except for what they've asked for.
10:35 PM on 06/25/2012
just so full of inaccuracies there is too many places to start--- first none of the efforts were very successful, most of the guns "walked" during the Wide Receiver, Hernandez and Medrano (all Bush era) operations were lost too... The difficulty in coordinating with the Mexican authorities particularly plagued the first several operations-- most of the guns were lost.

--love how you all come up with everything from top-notch police work to GPS tracking to explain why "Bush was better than Obama"---

The rest is just as skewed and inaccurate... you all just cut and paste from the same blogs and spread disinformation....
05:40 AM on 06/26/2012
You left out one key point. During the first two operations the Mexican gov. was informed of illegal guns entering their country. The BATF cooperated with the Mexican gov.
Yes, the operations failed but that happens.
Under Fast And Furious the illegal guns were allowed to flow directly to the drug cartels without the Mexican gov being told. There was no chance for this to work. Basically our gov facilitated the arming of drug lords.
There is a difference between a failed operation and one that is stupid and criminal.
You won't see the difference due to blind partisan support for the Dems or perhaps just the Obama Administration.
Yes, it's difficult to coordinate with the Mexican authorities. That's why the earlier operations were discontinued. The fact remains however that the BATF under Bush at least tried to run an operation the right way. The BATF under Obama just let guns walk across the border. Not only did they repeat failure they took it up a notch.
So what disinformation is in my post?
10:43 PM on 06/25/2012
AND Mike Mukasey was white AND serving under a Republican President AND every bit as guilty as Eric Holder in ALL aspects from it happening under his watch, to guns disappearing, to either not knowing (incompetent?) , or being directly involved (conspiracy)... which ever....

Eric Holder has testified 9 times and has produced some 15,000 documents....

How many time has Mukasey testified?.... zero.... How many documents has Mukasey provided? zero.... Follows a pattern doesn't it.... "miraculous machines, perfect police work and no guilt magically happens if you're republican---But democrats--- conspiracy" and then you have the nerve to play victim.... pathetic
05:45 AM on 06/26/2012
Have you seen the documents produced? Issa showed us some of them. They were binder after binder of blacked out pages. A lot of documents were produced. Were they what was asked for.....nope.
If I'm audited tomorrow by the IRS I can produce a ton of documents. It doesn't do any good if they don't include the tax returns and reciepts they ask for.
There is a big difference in the two operations. Wide Reciever failed but was at least run like a police operation. It's hard to work with the Mexicans as their gov and LEO's are corrupt. There is always a chance of failure and leaks. Regardless of this the BATF tried and ran Wide Reciever like a law enforcement operation. They involved the Mexicans when guns crossed the border.
Fast And Furious was run like a gov sponsored gun running scheme. Illegal guns were allowed to flow into a foreign country without that gov even being notified. There was absolutely no way that it could work. Remember that this operation was so badly run that it was the agents that blew the whistle. If you can't see the difference between simple failure and criminal incompetence in the two programs then you're blinded by politics.
01:39 AM on 06/25/2012
Is this guy crazy Eric Holder at the very least should have been forced to resign He should be in jail and a lot of those documents were blacked out. The hearings he was involved in was a joke The guns our law enforcement didnt track were used to kill federal agents and he should not be responsible for that that is bullcrap
10:48 PM on 06/25/2012
It's called redacting, the blacking out.... it is commonly done when the information might endanger lives, ruin an ongoing criminal investigation, or contain information that cannot legally be released.... the fact that the Right is playing that up as an outrage shows either ignorance or cynical political intention... I'm betting it's cynical...
02:43 PM on 06/24/2012
Who's responsible for the high violence rates? One guy - George Zimmerman?
10:06 AM on 06/24/2012
You know how when someone breaks your trust, you have a hard time believing anything they say?

Well, when Holder decided to dismiss the voter initmidation charges against the Black Panthers during their voter initimidation scandal, I lost all respect for him and I now I think everything he ever says or does is purely politically motivated.
04:33 PM on 06/23/2012
You go, Rev. Al!!!
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sweetpatriot
28,woman,healthcareworker,polyglot,bisexual.
08:27 PM on 06/22/2012
What is going on again?
03:10 PM on 06/25/2012
Are you serious?
Oh yeah....CNN and MSNBC either aren't covering it or they're busy covering it up.
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08:06 PM on 06/22/2012
Why in the world doesn't Holder speak up and tell Republicans & the Public this was In fact,s Bush's plan? This is the first I've heard that it was Bush's plan, and it is infuriating, since The congress is trying to play politics against President Obama by laying it at Holder's feet. this lie must be brought to light.
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RevJimIII
Grin and Barret...
08:47 PM on 06/22/2012
Fast and Furious was not Bush's plan.. that was a legal program called Wide Receiver. THIS plan is ALL Obama Admin...
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HotelDrama
06:41 PM on 06/23/2012
The same tactics used in Fast and Furious were first used by the Bush admin. If we are going to condemn Obama and his peeps for this operation, why aren't we condemning Bush and his peeps for starting the first gun running operations? Obama just continued and escalated what his predecessor started.
08:15 PM on 06/23/2012
Incorrect... read this: http://democrats.oversight.house.gov/images/stories/minority_report_13112.pdf

It is the only Official finding of fact to come out on the issue. Issa has not produced any official reports... Mainly because, while you may lie on the floor of congress, or the steps of the house, or Fox news without any consequence-- You cannot put anything into a committee finding report that is not supported by evidence or sworn testimony.

If this report, or one from Issa departs from the facts in a provable way-- those who signed onto the report may face criminal charges, and certainly are going to be brought up for censure. Maybe even dismissal.
08:57 PM on 06/22/2012
Attorney General Holder can't tell the people it was Bush"s plan, if he tried he would be lieing to Congress again. Al as usual tells what he wants the people to believe, not the truth. The President will get shot down with this Executive Priviledge as the information the committee is asking for doesn't pertain to the President. This will come out after the election
10:07 PM on 06/23/2012
In fact, a lot of it does not pertain to "Fast & Furious"... but his use of privilege will likely stick... And the use does not prove anything is being hid... It is a way of shutting Issa down. Issa's game is to use his subpoena, if he were to receive these documents he'd just subpoena more.

Right now their is a ridiculous NRA conspiracy theory circulating, all the evidence needed to prove it is untrue was available 10 months ago... but by stretching it out and making a big stink-- Issa hopes the GOP will get some political gain from it.

It keeps the NRA tin-foils worked up... FOX has been pushing this story for over a year... It is hoped, by the GOP, that even the people that don't even care about this case will have negative feelings towards the White House if they can keep it going...
10:19 PM on 06/23/2012
as for actual facts, neither Bush, or Obama had anything to do with this. It just happened to start while Bush was president and become public while Obama was president.

Read:http://democrats.oversight.house.gov/images/stories/minority_report_13112.pdf

There is evidence that Mike Mukasey might have known the details. Darrell Issa isn't interested in finding out and won't call Mukasey.

Previous to it becoming public, no one outside the Phoenix offices knew the operational tactics that were being used. The operational tactic "gunwalking" is the "Bad" part. Other than that there would be no issue at all. Issa would have been subpoenaing something else in order to have an investigation of the Obama Administration going. For political fodder....
06:04 PM on 06/22/2012
What some people don’t understand is that Racism is not only about the obvious it also includes a person subconscious behavior as well. Most times when African Americans refer to something as “racist” that is usually what we are referring to. Today a racist person is rarely overt or obvious which is why so many people get mad when you refer to their thoughts as racist. Often times they don’t even know that their actions are racist because they believe that as long as they don’t use offensive language they are not racist. NOT SO!!! Rev Al keep calling it out!!
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RevJimIII
Grin and Barret...
08:48 PM on 06/22/2012
Then again, oft times, it is not racism.
01:42 AM on 06/25/2012
eric holder should be in jail point blank
05:14 PM on 06/22/2012
Too Bad that AL does not know what he is talking about, Just another Democrat crooney

Holder made a statement to congress that he NEVER even knew it was there, in 2011
Then after 7 months later on in 2011 he said he stopped it in 2010
09:01 PM on 06/23/2012
Actually, he did not stop it himself, ATF Deputy Director Hoover ordered an exit strategy in March 2010, although at the time he did not know "gunwalking" was part of the investigation strategy--he simply wanted to send it to the Phoenix US Attorney's office for prosecution, because he was "alarmed at the number of guns involved"

This was being handled entirely by the Phoenix offices. Holder might have and I think it was probably said meant the DOJ, not himself personally stopped it in 2010. Unfortunately field agents didn't stop until 2011-- probably because it was an operation they had invested 5 years into. When the tactic of "Gunwalking" went public washington stepped in. The offices in Phoenix were the only ones aware of the operational tactics before then. Except Mike Mukasey, but we have no idea what he knew-- he's never testified.
04:24 PM on 06/22/2012
"Sorry I missed your call. This is Reverend Al. I'm out of the office shaking down contributors with Jesse. Please leave a message. If it is an emergency, please call CNN and they will page me."
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Obama=Austerity at Home..War Abroad
03:25 PM on 06/22/2012
National Border Patrol Council Calls for Holders resignation...

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2012/jun/21/eric-holder-spits-on-brian-terrys-grave/

This is not about racism ....

Sharpton you should be ashamed of yourself for pulling the race card on this.
09:23 PM on 06/23/2012
The times article and the statements made by McCubbin are another political stunt... The National Border Control Council, is not an official government group, it is more like a public service worker's Union. Like all unions they are often politically active. They endorsed John McCain in 2010. They've made several endorsements this year- all for Republicans... This outrage might be a little partisan.

If you want something official read : http://democrats.oversight.house.gov/images/stories/minority_report_13112.pdf
It's the Report of the Minority Staff, Committee on Oversight and Government Reform
U.S. House of Representatives, filed in January. It is a full accounting of the evidence to date.
11:11 PM on 06/23/2012
The National Border Patrol Council, is not an official agency, It is a public service workers union. Like other Unions, sometimes the President speaks for the union, sometimes he speaks for himself. Often times unions are politically active. The NBPC endorsed John McCain in 2010, this year they are endorsing conservatives in a number of local elections... I have not been able to find a Democrat they have endorsed this year.

Do the math.. Could this story be part of a political play?

If they want to start with facts--they can go to congress: http://democrats.oversight.house.gov/images/stories/minority_report_13112.pdf

If they want to pile on in the GOP spin, they can stick to the NRA narrative...
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09:56 PM on 06/27/2012
.....wow how can you sit so long at a computer....amazing!
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The Dude67
Question the official narrative
12:16 PM on 06/22/2012
First things first, let's remember that Fast and Furious was created under the Bush Administration.
Lie.  It started in 2009.  It was similar in nature to a program run under Bush, but Fast and Furious is a completely separate operation with key differences.  One of those differences being that the DOJ allowed the guns to pass freely into Mexico.  

Even if this wasn't a lie it still does not excuse Holder and Obama from obstructing a Congressional Oversight Committee.  Holder knew about the illegal activities prior to it becoming public.  That's what Issa is trying to establish, and rightfully so.
12:28 PM on 06/22/2012
Started by Bush, ended by Holder. Over 17000 documents have been produced and Holder has testified 8 or 9 times. The documents Issa wants are grand jury testimony - it's illegal for Holder to give them up. This is another smarmy attempt by the GOTea to get Holder and embarrass the President. Meanwhile, the jobs bill sits waiting. Since September of last year. I think we all understand Issa's priorities.
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03:25 PM on 06/22/2012
Is there something that stops the Congress from discussing the jobs bill while the Oversight Committee holds it hearing?
04:33 PM on 06/22/2012
Bush's was Operation Wide Receiver used chipped guns, said chips being immediately detected and removed by savvy modern gangstaz.

Really, any op that sends weapons into enemy territory with the inane concept of "tracking" them, was conceived and executed by a central planner who hasn't stepped out into the real world for decades.

You can track weapons of honest people like gun shop owners, because they are required to keep records.

I don't think the drug gangs keep records and report whenever one of their arsenal is used in a crime.

HEY! Maybe if they passed a law...
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06:46 PM on 06/23/2012
The ATF allowed the guns in Wide Receiver to pass into Mexico and then promptly lost them in Mexico. So that certainly isn't a key difference.

Yet Issa isn't going after Gonzalez, the AG under Bush. Why not? If Holder is guilty, certainly seems like Gonzalez would be guilty as well, considering that these operations all used the same tactics.
11:55 PM on 06/23/2012
Mukasy was the AG at the time of the operation and considering that he received a memo for a briefing on the program ahead of his 2007 meeting with his Mexican counterpart AG Mora-- I do wonder why he hasn't been called to testify
03:17 PM on 06/25/2012
Mexican law enforcement was involved in the operation and if THEY lost the guns after they crossed then it's a shame but guess what?
Our BATF agents don't have jurisdiction south of the border.
On the other hand the guns were allowed to disappear into Mexico in Operation Fast And Furious and the Mexicans were never told of the operation. There was no way for them to track them and this is gross incompetence. It should be criminal.
There is an obvious difference in the two operations and while Wide Reciever failed there was absolutely no way that Fast And Furious could ever succeed.
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Why does the left despise self-governance?
11:42 AM on 06/22/2012
This is what you ought to liken it to Reverend:

“”My main message is to the parents of Border Agent Brian Terry: If I had a son, he'd look like Brian,"” Obama said. “ "I think they are right to expect that all of us as Americans are going to take this with the seriousness it deserves, and we're going to get to the bottom of what happened."”

------------------------OH HECK, I misquoted the President. I “meant” Trayvon. BIG DIFFERENCE. ..apparently.

Like the Sanford Police Chief, hopefully Holder AND his boss will be fired.
11:46 PM on 06/23/2012
I expect he feels the same way---- but that doesn't change the fact that neither Obama Or Holder was involved in the reason or realities of his death... nor did they know anything about the program involved in his death...

http://democrats.oversight.house.gov/images/stories/minority_report_13112.pdf

It may be too long a read for some, but before you throw ignorance all around the web, you should have an idea of what is in it...

I do blame Issa, and the GOP for using the tragic death of an officer to further a blatantly political agenda, and for partisan gain.

The only thing blamed in the Trayvon case beyond his killer was the law that permitted it...