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Mitt Romney Not Concerned About People Living In Poverty -- But He Should Be

Posted: 02/ 1/2012 12:05 pm

Mitt Romney told CNN this morning that "I'm not concerned with the very poor. We have a safety net there." He'll probably want to bet $10,000 to prove me wrong, but we aren't doing enough to fight poverty and Romney's proposed economic agenda -- a mirror image of the policies of George W. Bush that caused poverty to skyrocket -- will hurt our nation. We should all be concerned.

The non-partisan Center for Budget and Policy Priorities recently noted that, "Governor Romney's budget proposals would require far deeper cuts in nondefense programs than the House-passed budget resolution authored by Budget Committee Chairman Paul Ryan: $94 billion to $219 billion deeper in 2016 and $303 billion to $819 billion deeper in 2021."

That means deep cuts for food assistance to families, affordable housing for seniors and education for low-income children. Romney's proposals are deeply troubling. More so because he seems to live in a fantasy world where those living in poverty are already having all their needs met.

But talk to social service providers and faith-based groups -- or working families who are struggling to get by in the aftermath of the Bush presidency and the refusal of the GOP House to pass reasonable legislation, such as President Obama's American Jobs Act -- and you'll hear story after story about people being turned away from aid because it doesn't exist. There is real suffering in not being able to feed your child.

As Faith in Public Life has noted, it stands to get worse because of GOP economic malpractice.

Constrained by the limits of the shameful 2011 debt-ceiling budget deal, the Obama Administration is warning progressive groups that they won't appreciate the cuts facing human needs programs. Community health centers, childcare assistance and anti-hunger programs (to name a few) stand to be severely impacted by cuts in 2013. The potential consequences of these cuts cannot be underestimated and many difficult moral decisions lie ahead for policymakers.

It's important to remember that we're in this situation because Congressional Republicans threatened to crash the economy on purpose if the White House didn't agree to draconian cuts. Nonetheless, leaders of both parties must be held accountable for their moral (or immoral) budget priorities.

President Obama's heroic efforts in getting his original stimulus plan passed kept more than 30 million Americans from falling into poverty (or into deeper poverty). What is needed now is a plan from both parties to dramatically reduce poverty.

Mitt Romney doesn't worry about those living in poverty. But as a minister in the United Church of Christ, I would argue it is our moral responsibility to worry about the future of every American. That is particularly true of those most vulnerable in our society, people Jesus would have called the "least of these."

 

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12:57 PM on 02/05/2012
"We have a safety net there." - thousands of freeway overpasses in America.
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12:30 AM on 02/04/2012
The worse things get, the noisier the have-nots become. The impoverished of Sao Paulo have a unique way of asserting their presence that is spreading. See "Uglifying the Land of the Haves" at http://thepoliticali.blogspot.com/2012/02/uglifying-land-of-haves.html.
06:29 PM on 02/02/2012
We need stop the wars and invest in re-industrialization of our country. Other countries give seed money for factories for our companies. Unfortunately, Mr. 15% does not understand this and could not be expected to do anything like that. Cut taxes and ship the jobs overseas. Now complain about the lazy poor. Romney is not qualified to be president.
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thorrsman
Why should I define myself by quoting others?
04:55 PM on 02/02/2012
When you subsidize poverty, you get more of it.

Try finding a way to "tax" it instead.

THAT will drive people to start taking care of themselves, whereas handout just teach them to expect handouts.
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Cindbird
09:52 PM on 02/02/2012
Right, poor people are poor because they want to be. It has nothing to do with the fact that they work 2 jobs at minimum wage and STILL can't earn enough to feed the kids and get all the bills paid. It has nothing to do with the fact that Dad got sick or had a heart attack and can't work and Mom can only get 25 hours a week and Social Security is only paying Dad 450$ a month. It has nothing to do with the fact that Grandma's meds are more than hers and Grandpa's checks COMBINED. No, no, poor people are poor because they want to be.
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thorrsman
Why should I define myself by quoting others?
09:43 AM on 02/03/2012
Yes, actually, they are. I've been helping a couple of families for a couple decades. They NEVER change in their habits or work ethic, and so they remain in need of help. It is a part of their accepted lifestyle to be dependant on the aid of others.
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I could write a program that is better @ governing
03:23 PM on 02/02/2012
I will never understand why we, as Americans, fear Islam so much but accept Mormonism without question. The Qur'an was based almost completely on the Bible and the Eastern Orthodox Catholicism that was practiced by the Byzantines during its creation. Mormonism has very little in common with Christan doctrine; centrally, they believe that if they follow all the Mormon doctrines, when they die, they get to have their own planet to be God over where their wives will be eternally pregnant to populate their new world.

Not saying either religion is wrong, but if you compare them both to the Bible and require that you're elected representative to be a Christan or Christian derivative, then a Muslim man would be closer to your beliefs than a Mormon.
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SoylentGreenIsPeople
Hmmm........Tastes Like Chicken !
03:01 PM on 02/02/2012
I have very brief moments of sympathy for conservatives. They've worked ceaselessly to increase the inequality of American society, and yet they can never brag in public about the stunning success of their program.
10:06 AM on 02/03/2012
Have you visited an inner city lately? I recommend a field trip to Detroit. Then ask yourself which political party dominated its politics and education for the last 50 years or so.
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TheWM
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11:58 AM on 02/02/2012
"What is needed now is a plan from both parties to dramatically reduce poverty."

BOTH parties?

C-SPAN, Pastor. Look into it. What is needed are Democratic majorities big enough that Republicans can no longer obstruct the business of running this country.
03:36 PM on 02/02/2012
They had majorities and still damaged the economy. And they've had monopolies on inner city politics and education for over half a century. But if you only give their ideas more time . . .
11:42 AM on 02/02/2012
Couldn't the President declare an economic state of emergency then force through legislation to help the American people?
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TheWM
aka The Wrong Monkey
12:58 PM on 02/02/2012
He could take a lot of radical measures. He could've invoked the Constitution during the debt-ceiling crisis last summer and raised the ceiling on his own authority. (The Republicans might've impeached him over it, but so what? Who came out of the 1998 impeachment better, Bill Clinton or Newt Gingrich?) He could've come into office in January 2009 the way FDR did in March 1933, taking drastic actions on his own authority, going way, way into grey areas of Presidential authority, sending a barrage of bills into Congress and twisting arms to get them passed, etc, etc.

But he's not a radical. He's a moderate. He tries hard to be the most reasonable, accomodating guy around. That's what he does. To the great disappointment of some of us who voted for him thinking he was going to kick a** and take names all day every day like FDR. In retrospect it was very naive of me to confuse Obama with Kucinich. I'm still going to vote for Obama in November, but I won't be quite as excited about it as I was in 2008.
11:41 AM on 02/02/2012
It is an unfortunate human failing that a full pocketbook often groans more loudly than an empty stomach. - Franklin D. Roosevelt
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Earl Gray
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11:36 AM on 02/02/2012
The "safety net" in our society has been developed over the past 40 years to "warehouse" low skilled (and now many skilled workers) so that goods can be produced with (first) greaterr mechanization and now with less expensive overseas labor.

We effectively "pay" the poor to BE poor.

All the hue and cry over EPA, OSHA, minimum wage, etc. are tied back to this basic issue.

The best way to "mend the social safety net" is to embrace policies that reduce the number of people who get tangled in it.

Those solutions include fair trade practices, more equitable tax policies for multinational corporations and a determination that goods SOLD in the US be PRODUCED to our environmental and worker safety/ wage standards.
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TheWM
aka The Wrong Monkey
11:27 AM on 02/02/2012
"I'm not concerned with the very poor. We have a safety net there."

Oh, okay. So I guess those aren't homeless people, they're people who like to go camping in urban environments and are casual about their hygiene.
09:57 AM on 02/02/2012
When we were an agriculture based economy (not all that long ago) 50% plus of the working population was involved in farming. Much of farming was seasonal and there were numerous farms. The off-season saw a migration of farm-labor to flop houses and church charity. Along with capital (in the equipment sense) came a reduction of labor in farming from the 50% to 2% of the population. Capital (in its numerous forms) has taken a rural community of Norman Rockwell pictures and evolved it to citi-slums with excess population not needed by capital intensive economic production that neglects the excess labor. Indeed, the corporate capitalist is "a" moral with respect ot the plight of excess labor. It's like an outdated copy machine that needs to be salvaged. And so it is with people, what need is the excess to the production of maximum profit?
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07:08 AM on 02/02/2012
Willard Mitt Romney is a bishop (inactive) in the Mormon Church, and as the frontrunner in the Republican presidential campaign, is the most visible presence & representation of the Mormon faith, which purports itself to be mainstream Christianity. As such, with his comments regarding his disregard for the poor, and earlier comments that he didn't think cuts to Medicaid & food stamps would cause problems, he would be indicted by the words of the Christ, he as a bishop of the Mormon church, he claims to represent, & in whose name he has performed countless proxy baptisms.....

Matthew 25:45-46 (KJV)
Then shall he answer them, saying, Verily I say unto you, Inasmuch as ye did it not to one of the least of these, ye did it not to me. [46] And these shall go away into everlasting punishment: but the righteous into life eternal.
09:07 AM on 02/02/2012
I don't see how Jesus' words mean that we get credit for being generous by insisting that "Caesar" take from one neighbor by threat of force to transfer to another neighbor.

It is interesting that you included another passage from Matthew 25 that referenced eternal punishment. Chuck seems to quote the "least of these passage" a lot but I wonder if he believes the part about eternal punishment? Does he think all scripture is the word of God, or just the parts he agrees with?
06:16 AM on 02/02/2012
The highest poverty is on rural Indian reservations. Does Romney want their vote or is he not concerned about their small voice? The "safety net" does not work.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/tim-giago/the-second-poorest-county_b_1223702.html
Tim Giago said "Poor leadership, bad management, and no accountability or oversight, these are the daggers that have stabbed deep into the heart of Shannon County, nee, the Pine Ridge Indian Reservation."

Mormon politicians tried the termination policy in the 1950s. Half of Utah's Paiutes died during the period between 1954 and 1980.

http://utahindians.org/archives/paiutes/history.html

These issues need to be addressed and not being concerned because there is a "safety net" does not help the American Indian voters decide if Romney will make positive changes for them.

Romney tried heavy handed coercion with Native Americans.
http://www.governing.com/topics/economic-dev/Raid-on-The-Reservation.html

Will poverty decrease if he becomes president? Will economic growth happen on rural reservations? Will there be better management and oversight?
09:20 AM on 02/02/2012
Good points. The government's handling of Indian affairs has been a fiasco from the beginning. It is more proof that we need limited government interference.
03:51 AM on 02/02/2012
Physical poverty is mismeasured and overstated in America, and the rewards for being poor too generous. Ben Franlin had it right:

“I am for doing good to the poor, but I differ in opinion of the means. I think the best way of doing good to the poor, is not making them easy in poverty, but leading or driving them out of it. In my youth I traveled much, and I observed in different countries, that the more public provisions were made for the poor, the less they provided for themselves, and of course became poorer. And, on the contrary, the less was done for them, the more they did for themselves, and became richer.

Benjamin Franklin, On the Price of Corn and Management of the Poor, November 1766”
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Under Fed yet Fed Up
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11:09 AM on 02/02/2012
Great quote.

Thank you.
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TheWM
aka The Wrong Monkey
12:40 PM on 02/02/2012
Thanks for illustrating that the Founding Fathers are overrated and DID occasionally make amazingly ignorant statements.
02:21 PM on 02/02/2012
Will you expand on your statement and explain what was ignorant about Franklin's? " I think the best way of doing good to the poor, is not making them easy in poverty, but leading or driving them out of it."
11:10 PM on 02/02/2012
Maybe so...but he was right this time.