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Moral Values and the 2012 Election

Posted: 07/14/2012 7:31 am

This election year provides one of the starkest contrasts in governing philosophies in modern times. Today's GOP has shed it's moderate wing and, like in 1964 when Barry Goldwater ran against LBJ, is running a campaign that is far to the right politically. This has implications for people of faith who across theological lines share concerns about issues ranging from poverty to the environment to war and peace.

Just recently the U.S. House voted again to overturn President Obama's health care reform -- the Affordable Care Act, commonly called Obamacare and recently upheld as constitutional by the U.S. Supreme Court. Thirty million Americans will receive coverage under this plan -- millions already have -- and while GOP opponents call Obamacare socialism, the reality is that it is a largely private -- not government run -- plan molded after Mitt Romney's Massachusetts reforms when he was that state's governor. President Obama's efforts to reform health care were backed by large numbers of religious organizations, including the National Council of Church and a number of Roman Catholic bodies.

The reform of our broken health care system has long been a goal of religious leaders in the United States and one shared by both Democrats and Republicans. Richard Nixon proposed a universal-style coverage plan. George H.W. Bush worked to reform the health care system. Mitt Romney paved the way as a governor. President Obama's plan won't cover every American, only a single payer system would come close to that goal, but it significantly closes the gap and address one of the great moral issues of our time.

On the environment, the National Council of Churches have been joined by the National Association for Evangelicals and the U.S. Conference of Roman Catholic Bishops in calling for action to reverse human caused climate change. Many in today's GOP still question the reality that human activity is a major factor behind climate change and the "global weriding" that has caused extreme weather across the planet. President Obama has pushed for important legislation in this area -- legislation that doesn't go far enough, frankly, but in our current political environment might be the best we can hope for -- but even here Mitt Romney and his allies in Congress have called for inaction and used their campaigns to questions whether or not climate change is even real.

Americans were mislead by President George W. Bush into fighting the war in Iraq and clearly wanted an end to that sad chapter in our nation's history. As promised, President Obama has brought the troops home and is reducing troops in Afghanistan. Many of us hope for a faster withdrawal there but it is important -- vital -- that the human rights of women and others be protected as we leave. President Obama, with the support of the Pentagon, has called for a reduction in military spending as these conflicts wind down. But GOP leaders, including Mitt Romney, are calling for increased spending. Congressional leaders even pledged to take money set aside to help people with their health care to pay for higher military budgets.

President Obama said earlier this year at Easter:

...so when I talk about our financial institutions playing by the same rules as folks on Main Street, when I talk about making sure insurance companies aren't discriminating against those who are already sick, or making sure that unscrupulous lenders aren't taking advantage of the most vulnerable among us, I do so because I genuinely believe it will make the economy stronger for everybody. But I also do it because I know that far too many neighbors in our country have been hurt and treated unfairly over the last few years, and I believe in God's command to "love thy neighbor as thyself." I know the version of that Golden Rule is found in every major religion and every set of beliefs -- from Hinduism to Islam to Judaism to the writings of Plato.

All of these important public policy issues we face today are moral issues that people of faith have a stake in and should speak to. Good people of faith can disagree on the right ways to bring about change and who to vote for in elections. What we shouldn't disagree on are the goals. Like President Obama, my faith compels me to speak out on these issues and to seek solutions within the public square. All people of faith need to examine the positions taken by the candidates and see if they square with their deepest values and the values of our different faith traditions. As a Christian whose faith informs his politics, I am looking for leaders who will protect God's creation, our very planet, stand up for those Jesus called the "least of these," and work towards being a peacemaker in a world torn apart by war.

 

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08:24 PM on 07/16/2012
"People of faith". In other words, people who can't think for themselves. People who judge independent thinking people for lacking morality. I think "people of faith" now describes less than 50% of the population, who want their reprocessed morality to control the political dialogue and condemn those who have the integrity and courage to determine their own theology.
01:13 AM on 07/16/2012
If you want to go down the road of moral arguments lets start here:

Are many of the people collecting benefits truly in need, or are they simply taking advantage of the system?
How many people unemployed are taking classes at local schools to be retrained?
How many people with medical issues that could be reduce by stopping bad habits like drinking and smoking, or eating a good diet and exercising actually doing so?
How many people are claiming they are incapable of work when in fact they are?
How many people are using food stamps and other benefits like welfare check to buy things that are truly unnecessary?
How many people, particularly the eldery, who may be well off, taking social security payments when they really don't need to?
How many people are writing off big business expenses to cover boondoggles...

The fact is moral values start with the individual, and their responsiblity to do everything they can to stay off assistance from the Government. But instead, people take the easy route, effectively demanding more tax dollars from those of us who pay the bills. I don't see anything moral about that.

You want to solve the medical problem -- put in high righ pools for pre-existing conditions, and force young people onto the system by denying them care in the emergency room. They'll get the message quick enough.
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12:24 PM on 07/16/2012
And the fact is that a very small percentage may be taking advantage of the system. But go down to your local food stamp office and take to people there. Go to the local food banks and homeless shelters, talk to the people. Listen to their stories and then try to stereotype them as you are doing here. Go to the local unemployment office and talk to people there and ask how many can AFFORD to go to classes to get retrained for something. Ask someone on SSA Disability what is wrong with them. I'd be glad to have a long discussion about my 14 drugs, 28 pills a day for systemic lupus, cardiogenic syncope, fibromyalgia, selective immunodeficiency (IGg), autonomic disregularity and Sjogren's Syndrome. I was a paramedic before I got sick. I now am totally disabled and draw Disability Benefits. Can I get well by stopping smoking or drinking, and exercise? NO. Most of my problems are autoimmune diseases. Other's are a common co-morbidity. So do you want to have a conversation, or admit that you did stereotype people without thinking?
12:59 PM on 07/16/2012
So you believe that believe that welfare going from 14 million to 70 million under Obama were a bunch of moral outstanding citizens -- sorry I'll stick with my "stereotyping". I'm truly sorry for your conditions -- and perhaps my comments don't apply to you - but I simply don't believe the large population of people getting benefits are truly doing their best to be self-sufficient. I look no further than the community college system. We've closed two locally -- yet unemployment is going up. If people were serious -- they would retrain in skills where jobs are available.
07:26 PM on 07/17/2012
Great questions! Here are some answers:

Q: Are many of the people collecting benefits truly in need?
A: Ask Bank of America, JP Morgan Chase & GM if they really NEEDED billions of dollars.

Q:How many people unemployed are taking classes at local schools to be retrained?
A: Millions.

Q: How many people with medical issues that could be reduced ... [sic].
A: Fewer than you think. How many kids with cancer need to stop drinking & smoking?

Q: How many people are claiming they are incapable of work when in fact they are?
A: How many people who are willing & capable of work are being told they are unemployable because they were laid off through no fault of their own in 2009?

Q: How many people are using food stamps and other benefits like welfare check [sic.] to buy things that are totally unneccessary?
A: Is the total amount of federal aid to the poor less than the billions given Too Big To Fail corporations?

Q: How many people, particularly the elderly, who may be well off [sic.], taking social security payments [sic.] when they really don't need to?
A: How many billions did elderly savers lose in the stock market crash in 2008? How many billions does it cost to keep paying former Congressmen salary & benefits for life?

Q: How many people are writing off big business expenses to cover boondoggles?
A: How about Mitt Romney and that $77,000 tax credit for his horse?
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05:56 PM on 07/15/2012
I will admit that I started reading this on the defensive, based on the headline, as I always get concerned when I hear or see the words "moral" and "values."  They are usually code for other things, coming from small, , narrow, fearful people who have perverted their faith into a weapon of division.

It was surprisingly refreshing to see I was WAY off this time.  :)
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05:11 PM on 07/15/2012
It was a breath of fresh air to read an article from a religious leader who doesn't rehash the fundamentalist rhetoric we hear most of the time. I hope more join you. I'll support anybody that uses reason when it comes to the policies that affect the long term future of America and of the world.
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03:52 PM on 07/15/2012
I always find it interesting to hear from a person of faith, that preaches that everyone should have health care and the ability to get the best possible care. Yet, That person is the head of a religious group that pays NO taxes and allows all other americans to pay the bill. What is even more interesting is you never hear the church come out and say, "We will help everyone!, We will pay for it!" You never hear a religious backed Hospital given out free health care services. A article on this website show that the Morman church takes in Billions of dollars. So if the morman church along with all other versions of the christian religion in this country paid taxes on everything that was brought in. The United States wouldn't have to have the government do anything but funnel the money into a healthcare system that was funded by religion. I hate to say it. But, that would be the first time Religion did anything good for the human race.
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02:57 PM on 07/15/2012
I "agree" that voters should look at the policies and the potential effects of those policies. I "agree" that people have a right to speak out about what they believe. Especially polititions: let all of us know how sensible you are or are not.
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02:30 PM on 07/15/2012
Rev:

You do give me at least some hope that the sincerely religious (as opposed to the "show" religious) will look beyod labels, and slogans and pay attention to the effects of proposed policies. I applaud your efforts in that regard.
02:13 PM on 07/15/2012
I enjoyed reading ur article and being a Christian felt far too "christians" in my neck of the woods are voting simply one way or the other because of party lines..my thoughts are to vote for the person who is or can do the Job to the best of their ability and Obama seems to be doing a good job..its not easy to be president of our great country, because their will always be differences of opinions on any given situation, and a lot of news outlets are either far to the left or far to the right and not just stating news as it was meant to be. I feel that the ACA is a step in the right direction and over time can be tweaked to be even better..i am grateful that we are finally winding down wars that made no sense to me in the first place...I always found it interesting that we can pay millions and millions of dollars for war, but people and organizations are holding "bake sales" to pay for vital educational programs that would be cut. Interesting article..God Bless and thank you
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Attempting to balance reason and passion
01:00 PM on 07/15/2012
"As promised, President Obama has brought the troops home and is reducing troops in Afghanistan. Many of us hope for a faster withdrawal there but it is important -- vital -- that the human rights of women and others be protected as we leave."
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Good Reverend, the reason the withdrawal is not faster is because of the politics of military contracting. The human rights of women in Afghanistan were tossed away when Karzai's government appointed ultraconservative Islamic clerics as judges shortly after it took power. The human rights of countless common folk in Afghanistan are repeatedly violated by the nightly raids carried out by our military in search of the elusive Taliban. And the common folk are prevented from adequately protecting themselves from the Taliban due to a policy of limited weapon ownership rights that is enforced by our military. And our military protects the kleptocratic Karzai government from the common folk who don't support it. Seriously, Reverend, wake up from your delusion about our military's presence there "protecting human rights". Economic rights of the well-connected-to-the-US-military-contract-dollars-network, surely, but not the broader human rights so often touted by proponents of that war.
12:56 PM on 07/15/2012
Thank you Reverend for writing this.

When I read things like this, it warms my heart and gives me hope that reasonable people of faith will prevail.
10:51 AM on 07/15/2012
Try and Imagine what our great country would have been going through back in 1942 if our current political leaders in Congress had been in charge then.

For those of us who grew up during the second world war, for those of us who witnessed almost everyone in our nation contributing to the cost of the war in money with tax brackets as high as 88% for the wealthiest among us, for those of us who saw so many in service for the military, in neighborhood volunteer efforts throughout every state in our union, listening to those of our leaders and their supporters who have done everything to block efforts to have all Americans contribute their fair share of taxes based upon an ability to pay brings a deep sadness into our hearts. In 1942, I lived in an American community, and all around me, my neighbors and friends acted as such. For me, the time is now to return to those days when Americans were called upon and agreed to contribute financially and otherwise so that America might continue to live out that dream passed on to us by our Founding Fathers and by those American generations that followed in their footsteps.
03:04 PM on 07/15/2012
I find a lot of truth in your statement THANK YOU !
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02:12 AM on 07/16/2012
fanned....and a few points

1. Most voted Dem in the 30-40's.....and were in or sympathetic to unions....
and most of the fighting and hard work was done by Dem's in the factories
or armies/navy/air force......[ right winger's hate to acknowledge that ]....
so give Dem's most of the fair share for defeating the bad guys

2. What's the big deal with a little higher taxes on the Super Rich ?
They will still be Rich ! $$$$$ Mansions, car's, secret bank accounts, etc....
is Greed really that bad, the worse you have apparently ?

Romney a perfect example.....does not think he's rich.....at $ 250 MILLION !
10:39 AM on 07/15/2012
Can any of these concerns or moral convictions be shared by people of no faith? Or do moral questions only apply to the credulous?
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10:25 AM on 07/15/2012
I just want someone who will be a just ruler and cares about our freedoms - even the ones he doesn't like.
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10:21 AM on 07/15/2012
Mark 12:17 says, And Jesus answering said unto them, Render to Caesar the things that are Caesar's, and to God the things that are God's. And they marvelled at him.

This article, based on these issues, says to me that Caeser and God are in harmony with one another.
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02:05 AM on 07/15/2012
Not to disagree with the Christian values expounded in your article but I must disagree that they are orginal Christian vlaues. Christian values - as any religous scholar will tell you came from Zoroastarism Bhuddist (where Issa the Just can be found in thier cannons and where many agree the lost years of Jesus where discovered) and Mythras. These values came many centuries later. Although I agree with the sentiment I can take exception that religon should be placed in your decision to vote for ANY candidate. The US was founded upon common well meaning goals and ideals as with any country's founding - not one says they founded their country on immoral issues of murder mayhem and the general hate of their fellow human beings. We need to remove this arrogance from our thought basis to truly reach a maturity were these ideals can be obtained without the threat of damnation or the isolation of one group of peoples over another. If you need religon to find your morals fine...not all of us need it and you did not address those of us who choose no religon.
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02:34 PM on 07/15/2012
I thought he made it clear that many religions including the writings of Plato have the same goals and values when it comes to how we should treat our fellow man.