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The Bible Seminar: Rescuing the Text

Posted: 11/ 4/2011 12:42 pm

On Nov. 17-19, The Westar Institute, home of the Jesus Seminar and Polebridge Press, will launch a new project called The Bible Seminar.

"Today the Bible is deployed in the service of all manner of conservative and right wing causes. Biblical scholars need to weigh in on these debates," Dr. Stephen Patterson, director of The Westar Institute and George H. Atkinson Professor of Religious and Ethical Studies at Willamette University in Salem, Ore., recently stated. "Religion plays an enormous role in the shaping of our public life. Scholars of religion have a unique vocation to become public intellectuals. The mission of the Westar Institute is all about getting scholars to embrace that vocation."

It comes down to a pretty basic debate: How we read the bible matters. Religious Right organizations like Focus on the Family and the Family Research Council use the Bible to argue against equality for women, against marriage equality for gays and lesbians, against environmental protections and for U.S. military intervention in numerous locations. Are their positions biblically based or are these political positions cloaked in biblical language?

Patterson says: "The Bible Seminar aims to coax critical scholars out of the library and into the public square because basic critical scholarship can make a difference. What is the Bible? How did we get it? What does it really say about sexuality, the role of women and family values?"

At the November gathering in Berkeley, Calif., scholars like Claudia Setzer will discuss the role of the Bible in "America's great social debates, over slavery, evolution, modernism, and civil rights." Gregory C. Jenks will present a workshop that will discuss how to reclaim the Bible for progressives. And along with Patterson, John Dominic Crossan, Pamela Eisenbaum and Mark George will help kick-start a conversation over the role of the Bible in modern debates that moves us beyond dogma and into a genuine discussion over the role of the Bible in our common age.

Why are these debates over the Bible important? The Rev. Dr. Albert Mohler, president of Southern Baptist Theological Seminary, asserts that the "Bible is totally truthful and without error" and this belief causes him to reject evolution -- a theory embraced by many biblical scholars and other people of faith -- and to believe that homosexuality is a sin. Thus, he opposes (strongly) the teaching of evolution in public schools along with programs that promote tolerance and diversity in the classroom. This has led Dr. Mohler to write: "I am convinced that the time has come for Christians to develop an exit strategy from the public schools. Some parents made this decision long ago. The Christian school and home school movements are among the most significant cultural developments of the last thirty years. Other parents are not there yet. In any event, an exit strategy should be in place."

Mohler's views represent a radical departure from mainstream Christianity (the National Council of Churches is a strong proponent of public education) and even evangelical Christians are warning that the anti-intellectualism embraced by figures such as Mohler harms the faith. Karl W. Giberson and Randall J. Stephens, two evangelical scholars, recently wrote in The New York Times that "Evangelicalism at its best seeks a biblically grounded expression of Christianity that is intellectually engaged, humble and forward-looking. In contrast, fundamentalism is literalistic, overconfident and reactionary." Mohler's fundamentalism stifles learning, debate and confuses theology with a partisan political platform.

The Westar Institutes' Bible Seminar will seek to reclaim the Bible from voices like Mohler's and to promote dialogue between scholars, clergy and lay members of churches.

The mission of The Westar Institute has always been to "to foster collaborative research in religious studies and to communicate the results of the scholarship of religion to a broad, non-specialist public." Right now that mission could not be more important because the debate over what the Bible is and what is means is being won not based on scholarship -- or even faithful discernment -- but by those with the biggest budgets and the strongest political allies. It's time to free the Bible and Christianity from those who engage in theological malpractice.

 

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07:51 AM on 11/19/2011
There is always a law or a specific............within the text.
The average guy misses the SPECIFIC and preaches what his friends agree that is of their DENOMINATION.

People all over the world are looking for God............Not your de-no-mi-na-tion.
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10:00 PM on 11/07/2011
John 8:45 And because I tell you the truth, ye believe me not.
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GDWhiteman
Christian mystic iconoclast
08:09 AM on 11/08/2011
I take it that you're saying that you think this rescue of the text from the hands of conservative fanatics who've twisted it beyond recognition is a good thing - being truth oriented and all as you are?
10:52 AM on 11/21/2011
Yes...and Chuck is telling you the truth
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gal416
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09:10 PM on 11/07/2011
For those who are at peace with God, the word of God as written in the Bible is faithful and true.
For those who are not at peace with God, the word of God as written in the Bible, can be and is quite disturbing and they want to change it so that the finger of God isn't pointed at them.

Romans 5:1 ¶ Therefore being justified by faith, we have peace with God through our Lord Jesus Christ:
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friendgill
04:20 PM on 11/08/2011
Actually, I never found true peace when I was a young fundamentalist. The cognitive dissonance that I felt was palpable. The violence, contradiction, and incongruity of the loving God who sends a vast majority of the children he loves and created in his image to his eternal torture chamber was more than I could stomach. When I finally allowed myself to think and see the Bible for the beautiful historical, poetic, metaphorical work that it is, I not only found peace, but truly found joy and a much more expansive view of deity! So, thank you, Gal416, for taking what could be a beautiful and all-inclusive portion of the Bible and misinterpreting it and hitting us all over the head with it.
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chw777
02:08 PM on 11/16/2011
Very well put gal416
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weisschr
02:47 PM on 11/06/2011
The irony of "biblical scholarship" is that anyone reading the bible in English is reading a rewording of a translation of a translation. Most books of the bible have been translated from their source languages into Latin, then English, and then reworded at least one more time (eg. King James edition). Some editions have been reworded again. Anyone familiar with linguistics knows that unless you are a native speaker, some meaning is lost or added or changed in translation.

Islam studies the koran in the original arabic. Many jewish texts are presented in their original unmodified hebrew. It doesn't make these religions more correct, but it does mean that there is less ambiguity based on linguistic errors. Most christians study the bible in forms several times removed from the original text. What do these semantic errors mean? What do the mistranslated words mean? At what stage do the words stop being the word of god, and now become the misinterpreted word of man? These are legitimate questions that most biblical "scholars" gloss right over.

People like Mohler are simple zealots. They assign a level of certitude to a book full of inconsistencies and select uses that does not exist. All modern christians pick and chose those portions of the bible they wish to follow. What is the right path based on the *words* in the bible? That is an answer that no christian can answer with full support because no christian follows every rule contained within the bible.
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09:36 PM on 11/07/2011
"Most books of the bible have been translated from their source languages into Latin, then English, and then reworded at least one more time (eg. King James edition)."

No matter what criticisms non-believers and some believers have of the King James Bible, the bottom line is, through God's grace and providence and the words contained on its pages, untold millions of people, if not more, have come to know and believe in Jesus Christ including myself. The proof, it is said, is in the pudding.

"What is the right path based on the *words* in the bible?"

Acts 16:30 And brought them out, and said, Sirs, what must I do to be saved?
31 And they said, Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ, and thou shalt be saved, and thy house.
05:07 PM on 11/09/2011
I hear your criticism, but would also point out that as a Presbyterian minister, my seminary education equipped me with a working knowledge of the Biblical Greek and Hebrew - meaning, I know enough to look up what I need more clarity on. I understand higher criticism, the redaction history, the process of canonization, etc.

Many people don't realize that Christians aren't a monolith; and we are certainly not all fundamentalists with Mohler et al. I believe in evolution, I think gay marriage and ordination is a move toward God's grace, pretty progressive on all fronts. And I am that way because of what I read in the Bible.

"All modern Christians pick and choose those portions of the Bible they wish to follow." Nail on the head with that one. As a minister, I call this a "canon within the canon." But any minister worth her/his weight should be preaching and teaching the full range of scripture (even the stuff that we'd rather not highlight about this ancient text we have inherited.)

Fundamentalism has hijacked people's understanding of what Christian means - I just want to push back a little. Thank you for raising the linguistic elements of the scripture that are so often ignored by our ultra-conservative peers.
08:53 PM on 11/05/2011
"...Mohler's views represent a radical departure from mainstream Christianity (the National Council of Churches is a strong proponent of public education."

The NCC has not represented mainstream views on anything in decades. The Apostles would have rightly excommunicated the majority of the NCC for rank Socinianism and apostasy.
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friendgill
04:37 PM on 11/07/2011
So...mainstream, in your case, means, "Me and my narrow-minded buddies."
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GDWhiteman
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11:06 PM on 11/09/2011
Why is it that when someone starts throwing around suggestions of excommunication, apostasy, etc. I get the distinct sense that I'm listening to the apostate?
02:06 PM on 11/05/2011
The Bible is written in plain language. The problem is the same as it has always been, most people don't read it. It doesn't take a scholar to answer the questions posed in the article. "Even the women turned against the natural way to have sex and instead indulged in sex with each other. And the men, instead of having normal sexual relations with women, burned with lust for each other. Men did shameful things with other men, and as a result of this sin, they suffered within themselves the penalty they deserved." (NLT Romans 1:26) Marriage and family is outlined in Ephesians 5 and 6. The Bible does not support intervention in foreign wars and discourages foreign alliances. Environmental protections and good treatment of animals is encouraged in the Bible.

Apparently, this is all about someone coming up with a slick way to condone homosexuality. The Bible even presents guidance in this area. The “evil deeds of the Nicolaitans”, those who led God’s people into committing sexual sin, are not only condemned but also the churches who tolerated the Nicolaitans in their congregations. (Revelation 2).
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08:19 AM on 11/07/2011
Hi cilantro-- You refer to Rmns1, but remember, the letter is reproving Christians in verse twenty-one. Also, the men you refer to in vs twenty-seven chose to leave their women. Because I’m a Gay man and have never been attracted to women the verse cannot apply to me. Additionally, I’ve been in a happy, faithful and committed relationship with my partner for nearly fourteen years - Here’s another instance where the reference you give just doesn’t apply.

Individuals and groups with a negative bias towards Gay people have long used a handful of Bible passages to condemn us. I’m happy that Christian scholars, pastors, individuals and entire congregations are critically reexamining these verses in light of their historical contexts as well as the original languages. --ez
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friendgill
04:50 PM on 11/07/2011
My guess, EZ, is that cilantro is not interested in discussion. Monologue and diatribe are probably what he is pursuing.
09:37 AM on 11/05/2011
there are many of us that dont have a degree in theology and dont need one,because our teacher isnt a man, he is the holy spirit and he is infallable isn't he.

REMEMBER THE VERSE ABOUT HEAPING UP FALSE TEACHERS WITH ITCHY EARS.
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GDWhiteman
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10:17 AM on 11/05/2011
The Bible is neither God nor the Holy Spirit. Do you use anything to sooth the itching in your ears?
01:11 PM on 11/08/2011
Jesus said it was...

"Why do you call me Lord Lord and don't do what I say?"

Who do I believe... those who deny what Jesus says (regardless of who they say they believe) or Jesus?
03:50 PM on 11/05/2011
When you see a "scholar" confounded, remember this scripture:

Matthew 11:25 At that time Jesus prayed this prayer: “O Father, Lord of heaven and earth, thank you for hiding these things from those who think themselves wise and clever, and for revealing them to the childlike. Yes, Father, it pleased you to do it this way!"
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03:28 AM on 11/05/2011
Hello Chuck, it is good that folks realize that the "religious right" do not have much knowledge or accuracy in the bible, as I have gone through some of the groups work, the efforts in disparaging it shows the lack of wisdom in spirituality, and trying to "right size" it into the carnal realm is like another literal creation story...
04:56 PM on 11/04/2011
Timely and pertinent. I hope this starts an intellectual and ideological revolution. God knows we need one.
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whirlpool
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02:33 PM on 11/04/2011
Since the Bible causes so much trouble and can be read so many different ways by so many, why not just ditch the blasted thing and put together an anthology of modern literature.
04:58 PM on 11/04/2011
Part of me agrees with you, but it isnt going to happen, simply because of the hardline 'bible is all' theology. This strategy, educating lay people about scholarship, is a fantastic approach.
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talkstocoyotes
07:52 PM on 11/04/2011
I'm not sure how anyone would go about "ditching" it exactly. If people choose to read it, they choose to read it.
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whirlpool
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08:47 PM on 11/04/2011
Right. I am just hopeful that some will actually read something else for a change. There is certainly a great deal of fine literature out there--even better than that in the Bible. When I want to know something about god or angels, I go to the poet Rilke.
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Arturo Ramrez
01:43 PM on 11/04/2011
Great to see people trying to talk some sense in others. Specially people from "inside". Being an atheist myself, whenever I try to have a conversation with a bible thumper anti-evolutionist I get attacked because I don't share (although I respect) their faith.
02:24 PM on 11/04/2011
Yeah, I guess the plan here is to overload the small brains and short circuit them.

I have a lot less patience than you. I respect most of them in the same way I'd respect an animal that might have rabies.

You (I) really can't waste time talking to people will plot for years to drive airplanes into buildings to kill people, nor people who will build a money-sucking machine to tell us that 9/11 happened because we weren't beating up enough gays.

That's why God created Samuel Colt, and John Browning!
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Arturo Ramrez
03:40 PM on 11/04/2011
I'm not as patient as I might seem, but I've learned a thing or two during my short life. I respect religious beliefs in general, I don't respect bigotry, that's a different story (that's why you see me jumping at atheists, too). Not so long ago, I was deep in the punk subculture (as punk as a middle-class Mexican in the late 90's can be, of course), and was way more recalcitrant and intolerant than I am now, but then I noticed that that was an oxymoron, so I decided to pull back a little and let more reasonable arguing take place. I have no clue if it works, but at least it feels more congruent.
01:39 PM on 11/04/2011
This is great. The Dallas Area Christian Progressive Alliance (www.dallaschristians.org) is developing a "verses" project aimed at lay Christians and addressing some of the same issues.